in light of all the payment raging, (( must read ))

[Korpg]

How is moving from
* "I give you my CC info and you charge me"
* "I make a shell account. Then I use an online payment service to access my shell account. Then I tell the online payment service to buy ___ of a distributor-specific currency. Then I use the distributor-specific currency to maintain my registration every month."
somehow a way to streamline the payment process?


Also, plenty of people pay for monthly services that they don't use. What do you think all the "one free month" introductory offers are for? My mom paid monthly fees for dial-up America Online for something like 2 years after we got cable. People automatically pay for shit they don't need or use all the time simply because they can't be arsed to figure out how to stop it.

We have been having issues with payment from PoL for, what, the last year or so?

This new change could mean that somebody has either hacked into the system but haven't stolen anything, or more likely the new rules issued by banks and World Bank has made it almost impossible for it to be effective to keep the old system in play without overhauling the entire system. Which is what they are doing, but they (as in SE) has chosen the cheaper method. I mean, why go all out on a product that is dying?

Also, laziness is not an excuse to stop payment on anything. You can't blame the companies for people being too lazy to click a few buttons.

[Romanova]

We have been having issues with payment from PoL for, what, the last year or so?

This new change could mean that somebody has either hacked into the system but haven't stolen anything, or more likely the new rules issued by banks and World Bank has made it almost impossible for it to be effective to keep the old system in play without overhauling the entire system.

you realize that this system has been in place for more than a year right?

[Korpg]

you realize that this system has been in place for more than a year right?

I wasn't given the option to switch over my account info until the 27th of July. And I had to reissue my information earlier this month because my old card expires at the end of this month.

As far as I know, only the 3D secure was in effect. Give me information as to state that this new system that we are on has been in effect for the past year, and I shall retract my statement. Because I have been paying from PoL since I first started this game.

[Romanova]

I wasn't given the option to switch over my account info until the 27th of July. And I had to reissue my information earlier this month because my old card expires at the end of this month.

As far as I know, only the 3D secure was in effect. Give me information as to state that this new system that we are on has been in effect for the past year, and I shall retract my statement. Because I have been paying from PoL since I first started this game.

It is the only way you could pay for 14, it existed initially for 14 and they already stated back then that there were plans to move 11 to it as they wanted to keep both games on the same system to make it "easier" to handle payments since there was (still is? not sure now that things have changed) supposed to be a discount to the monthly fees if you had both games on the same SE account.

There are tons of people out there (myself included) that are about to get at least 1 month of not having to pay for ff11 because when we all got the CE edition of ff14 we expected to pay for it and already went through this awful system to set it up for 14.

I had a balance of 3k crysta in my bank because I expected to play 14 for at least 2 months. If I hadn't gone back to ffxi those would have expired next year.


Now before you try to twist things, I never said this system was in effect for ffxi. but it has been in effect for over a year and with plans for over a year for ffxi to switch. So if you want to make guesses as to why they made it you have to think about SE's state of almost two years ago (they didn't plan this in a day, it was supposed to be the major new "cool" POL system for ff14, it wasn't a rushed job). While it was already completed and running a year ago, you have to go even further back to when they initially thought of it in the first place.

I'd like to point out too the system is set up the exact same way as it was back a year ago, absolutely nothing has changed since then.

Why did they decide to switch now? my guess is they are planning fairly soon after the next major patch or two in 14 to turn it into p2p and they wanted them both on the same system before then since that was their initial intent.

[Korpg]

It is the only way you could pay for 14, it existed initially for 14 and they already stated back then that there were plans to move 11 to it as they wanted to keep both games on the same system to make it "easier" to handle payments since there was (still is? not sure now that things have changed) supposed to be a discount to the monthly fees if you had both games on the same SE account.

There are tons of people out there (myself included) that are about to get at least 1 month of not having to pay for ff11 because when we all got the CE edition of ff14 we expected to pay for it and already went through this awful system to set it up for 14.

I had a balance of 3k crysta in my bank because I expected to play 14 for at least 2 months. If I hadn't gone back to ffxi those would have expired next year.


Now before you try to twist things, I never said this system was in effect for ffxi. but it has been in effect for over a year and with plans for over a year for ffxi to switch. So if you want to make guesses as to why they made it you have to think about SE's state of almost two years ago (they didn't plan this in a day, it was supposed to be the major new "cool" POL system for ff14, it wasn't a rushed job). While it was already completed and running a year ago, you have to go even further back to when they initially thought of it in the first place.

I'd like to point out too the system is set up the exact same way as it was back a year ago, absolutely nothing has changed since then.

Why did they decide to switch now? my guess is they are planning fairly soon after the next major patch or two in 14 to turn it into p2p and they wanted them both on the same system before then since that was their initial intent.

Then why are you complaining, you already have your account setup, all you have to do is transfer the information from PoL to your SE account.

As for me, it was a simple process to transfer my information from one source to another, and I can make monthly payments without any hassle. You can too, if you aren't in the Click and Buy's list of countries they don't support.

And if you don't trust Click and Buy? There is an optional step you can take to safeguard your money.

[Romanova]

Then why are you complaining, you already have your account setup, all you have to do is transfer the information from PoL to your SE account.

reading is hard (maybe you can figure it out)

I had a balance of 3k crysta in my bank because I expected to play 14 for at least 2 months. If I hadn't gone back to ffxi those would have expired next year.

I don't like the crysta system at all, and C&B already tried to take extra money from me back during the 14 fiasco. Chase blocks all transactions from them thank god, but I had to fight with C&B to reverse my money.


[edit] to further clarify, I would have no issues if 1. crysta never expired, 2, I could buy crysta in any amount I wanted, 3. I could set it up where they could automate the crysta payments via paypal.

[Korpg]

I don't like the crysta system at all, and C&B already tried to take extra money from me back during the 14 fiasco. Chase blocks all transactions from them thank god, but I had to fight with C&B to reverse my money.

Sounds like a FFXIV problem to me, and a billing issue with Click and Buy, which you should have talked to either that company or Square Enix about it. Fighting with them, I don't believe. More like one side was too mad to keep their emotions in check.