in light of all the payment raging, (( must read ))

[Rosina]

THis thread is only to those who can use the options and are mindlessly raging over the billing change. This thread does not address to those who can not use these options.

Leave your insults at the door. They are not welcome here. If you want to act like a child I will treat you as such. This is not the first time I see this rage fest. ffxiv hadf a similar one. Then people smarten up and read what they can do. (also that game is free still.) But those who can buy crysta did. Those who signed up for click ande buy did.

Other options are set up a account with Ultimate pay. This website hosts those ultimate pay cards used by several online games And sell various amounts of points. They Mostly sell $10 or $20 cards in stores. You can also buy stuff on ultimate pay by using paypal. Just agai select the amount of points, $5 for every 500 points. having 10K points being a $100.

These are options one doesn't need to use "click and buy" from.

Please stop the raging over such a stupid thing. Instead of being lazy like the ff14 crowd please look into your options.

Thank you have a nice day.

sorry if this post came off rude to anyone who can't do these options. And sorry for the mis info I set my account up on my ps3, the click and buy logo didn't load up. For that I am sorry.

But really learn what you can do, ask questions, and look for work arounds if your in the (can't pay with either) option.

The only reason japan can directly play SE is they have different ways of billing over there. and are not the same as in US or Europe. that it is a japanese company. POL was infact a middleman. and tbh I hated pol. I'm happy I can use crysta and plan on doing so.

Sorry if my help was an insult those who will be effected by this negatively.

But do not dare say all this rage isn't effecting me. I do not come on these forums to see adults cry like children. If you have an issue talk to the reps here. get more info to what you can do.

[Aver]

People are raging over the fact you have to use a shady service (click and buy) or buy more fake currency than what you would need to pay the monthly fee (crysta.) Not that you would need to take another step to find how to pay for crysta w/o click and buy.

Complete and utter garbage on SE's part. Playonline's billing worked for 10 years already, just fine, with the exception of last month.

These people have the intelligence level of a protozoan.

[Rosina]

People are raging over the fact you have to use a shady service (click and buy) or buy more fake currency than what you would need to pay the monthly fee (crysta.) Not that you would need to take another step to find how to pay for crysta w/o click and buy.

Complete and utter garbage on SE's part. Playonline's billing worked for 10 years already, just fine, with the exception of last month.

These people have the intelligence level of a protozoan.

and i just stated that there is infact a credit card option. >.> It is on their web site. Click and buy is just the direct way to buy crysta other the going through ultimate pay.

ALSO any and all time cards are not a mnth to mnth thing. You get incraments of several months. Similar with points. There is incrments of pay. You can't just simply buy 13.95. Even sony and 360 have cards that equal only $5 $10 $20

Just gotta suck it up, that is how those cards and point system work.
Just go to SE site and set up your credit card.

[Malacite]

and i just stated that there is infact a credit card option. >.> It is on their web site. Click and buy is just the direct way to buy crysta other the going through ultimate pay.

ALSO any and all time cards are not a mnth to mnth thing. You get incraments of several months. Similar with points. There is incrments of pay. You can't just simply buy 13.95. Even sony and 360 have cards that equal only $5 $10 $20

Just gotta suck it up, that is how those cards and point system work.
Just go to SE site and set up your credit card.

Except had you actually bothered to try the direct payment option, you would have found that Click&Buy is the only method available to us. The JP by stark contrast, can still register their cards directly with SE and thus pay SE directly.


You might want to actually research things before starting a losing argument like this, lest you look like a jackass.

[Rosina]

Except had you actually bothered to try the direct payment option, you would have found that Click&Buy is the only method available to us. The JP by stark contrast, can still register their cards directly with SE and thus pay SE directly.


You might want to actually research things before starting a losing argument like this, lest you look like a jackass.

actually I did. To me click and buy is do different then paypal. I just didn;t see the logo cuz I set my ffxiv account on my ps3 for that I'm sorry abouty the mistake. but still no need to disrespect me for trying to help you guys. I'm not gonna be nice, if all i see is just blind rage over change.

[Tamoa]

actually I did. To me click and buy is do different then paypal. I just didn;t see the logo cuz I set my ffxiv account on my ps3 for that I'm sorry abouty the mistake. but still no need to disrespect me for trying to help you guys. I'm not gonna be nice, if all i see is just blind rage over change.

Thing is, you weren't nice to begin with. You were all like "omg learn2read&research guys" and then made a claim that is 100% false because you yourself didn't read and research. And you even posted it in several threads. Don't be surprised that you are being flamed for it.

Also, noodles355 makes a VERY good point.

[Panthera]

Seriously guys, rage moar?

Sorry for using internet speack but it is just a video game. If you do not like the new billing practices. Then simply do not play.

Sorry for the wrong info on my part, but honestly THE MAIN POINT was saying if you guys do some research, there are ways to pay for the game other then click and buy.

Crysta in a nutshell will be my payment. And I know how it works. Simply do this option instead of click and buy.

So yes you guys are just fearing change instead of looking into things. Sometimes you do not get what you want in life.

I will break down how crysta works, which is by far the safest option. Or do you not remember that SE was hacked twice before?

anyway $1= 100 crysta

if your account is say 15.95 a mnth, round this up to 16.00. that means you need at least 1600 crysta. look at the list of cryta amounts and pick the best option for what you want. I would just save up and get a $100 worth. Or simply use your credit card on paypal for the ultimate pay. This put 10,000 cysta on your account. And you will not have to toucvh to for several months. if a flat fee of $100 is simply not for you. just take your account fee round it to the nearest dollor then double or triple it. and pay two to three mnths in advance. It is very easy.

Also contact SE about your region. Stating click and buy don't work for you. Also do not blame se because of the country you live in. That is your regions fault for not hosting the game in the first place.
Simple put instead of raging just use the option you can and ask questions to the dev team.

No need for all this imaturaty over a video game. I only wanted to help you guys out. since there is no need for it.
Do not fault me for trying.

actually I did. To me click and buy is do different then paypal. I just didn;t see the logo cuz I set my ffxiv account on my ps3 for that I'm sorry abouty the mistake. but still no need to disrespect me for trying to help you guys. I'm not gonna be nice, if all i see is just blind rage over change.

Apologies for the long quotes, but editing would be doing an injustice to everyone concerned. There it is. It speaks for itself--But I'll add commentary anyway. It's all about the lulz--I'm addicted.

I only wish I had the intellectual simplicity to casually throw away not hours, days, or months, but years of dedication to an endeavor while trivializing my own efforts. I do this all the time. Then again I'm immortal, so time, effort and energy don't mean anything to me, so MMO's are the perfect way to spend eternity. It's a good thing--I'm going after a Mythic.

Rosina, if you're gonna play for SE's team, you need to step up your game. Proofreading helps, as does having one's facts straight before you start a thread. Allow me to demonstrate:

I realize that everyone feels anxious about change, but there's no reason for alarm. Players may still make automatic payments through their credit cards via Clickandbuy. After setting up one's account, there's no more hassle, and players are awarded an in-game item if they register right away! They charge a fee, but it's very small, only 3.7%; only about 50 cents on a basic account. The Chrysta system allows players to pay months in advance if they wish, so they don't have to worry about payments. Chrysta may be purchased through Ultimatepay or Clickandbuy. FFXI customers have more payment options than ever before!

Basically, the first rule of the Square-Enix club is, you do not talk about how some customers can pay directly without going through a 3rd party. The second rule of the Square-Enix Club is...

No really. SE didn't tell this to their NA playerbase; we had to put this together for ourselves.

You feel like you're taking up something unpopular; SE's changes. I admire your courage. I realize you're trying to be informative, and wish to pacify the playerbase's anger. We realize FFXI is not being denied us, there's just new payment options. But we don't find a one of them attractive; we find them dangerous. However much people can be attached to their virtual characters they invested nearly a decade into, they are infinitely more attached to their own bank accounts, and do not give out personal information to every jive talkin' mofo with a net address and purple suit. Mamma didn't raise no fools!

[Rosina]

the only utter garbage is the Forum community over stuck astupid reason. Grow a set and learn to deal. There is no use to rage, all you guys are doung is fearing change. Instead of trying it out. Time cards/ point cards are much safer and easier to use. just get a $20 every 2 mnths. No harm or foul. just learn to use them to your advantage,

[Aver]

Rosina, credit card is only an option to pay for crysta, or to have click and buy act as a middleman to SE. It's not about being averse to change, it's about SE not thinking things through.

Either way, the players are going to get the shaft in the end. Believe me, I've looked and had the experience with SE's clickandbuy/crysta venture long before it was introduced to 11. Didn't like it then, sure as hell don't like it now.

On time cards - I'll leave that to the individual. I prefer having an auto-bill system myself and trusting (lol, trusting SE, I'm setting myself up for a world of hurt) the company to bill me correctly on a timely basis. Once again, this was a system that was in place and working. Why not leave the auto-bill (THROUGH SQUARE/someone other than shadeandloot)

Also, this.

Ultimately, I'm just explaining why people have such a problem with this. If you have your own way of doing things, do it. But there are many of us who absolutely do not want anything to do with this company. I know I don't.

[Zarabi]

Meh i saw you say this on another post, im not debating how good or bad it is, but youre just WRONG.

Here is a copypaste from their official "how to transfer account" - help website:

You can choose from either Crysta, or Credit Card/Debit Card via ClickandBuy account. Please select one and then click "Next."

So its Crysta OR

Credit Card VIA CnB. Ok?