A single simple solution to Paladin

[Dale]

Oh yeah that's right pld gets cure 5 6 -na erase esuna sacrifice haste regen curaga afflatus divine seal and a huge mp pool.

Most of the stuff you mentioned paladins can get by subbing the right job, so your argument is pretty weak. The only job in the game that gets cure 5 and 6 is white mage, so i guess by your standards all jobs suck at healing except for white mage...

Like i said earlier, people are so eager to say paladins suck at something they hold them to ridiculous standards. As i've said before and i guess i'll say again, just because another job does something better doesn't mean you suck.

[Dale]

Don't forget SCH for stronger Cures with JAs, AoE Buffs/Status removals. Sure a PLD/SCH could do this but not as well as SCH main due to only 2 charges not accounting for better cure gear.

Or how RDM can handle curing for a longer amount of time due to refresh 2. Also that spiffy cure pot staff trumps light staff PLD can get.

Or how about a BRD/WHM who is also on the cure pot staff and has access to ballad2/3 as well

Edit: Forgot how SMN is on cure pot staff has access to a cure pot+14% body through battle trophies on top of the buffs/cures their avatars could do.

So yes PLD is a sucky healer.

Are you being sarcastic or serious, i can't tell?

As far as your comments about Paladins lacking because other jobs get better cure potency weapons...well let's not forget paladins have the best staff skill in the game and spirit taker is an effective tool for regaining mp.

[Dale]

But that's the point I'm making they aren't "within range of other mages" every job I mentioned has access to cure 4 just like PLD except PLD can only reach a Cure potency of 20% not counting augmented armor. RDM/SCH/BRD/SMN/BLM all can reach 35% and SMN can reach 49%. That puts PLD in the 8th position for healer dunno about you but to me being 8th means it sucks at healing. Not even counting DNC which I'd rank higher than PLD making it 9th...

Paladin heals better than any summoner or bard i've ever played with.

Red Mage can be a slightly better healer than paladin but not by much. Black mage? They dont' even get healing skill. I suppose they could sub scholar and go into light arts...but i've never played with a black mage who did this, so i won't comment.

YOu also put way too much empahasis on this cure potency stat, thinking it trumps everything else for healing, even the healing skill itself apparantly. It helps sure, but it's not nearly as needed as you seem to think, and absense of it certainly won't make you a sucky healer as you claim.

Paladins may not be the "best" healer, but they are adequate and will be able to heal the vast majority of situations on this game. I'd rank them right behind the mages, which is about where they should be.

[Alienmonkey]

Most of the stuff you mentioned paladins can get by subbing the right job, so your argument is pretty weak.

WTF? Why would your tank sub WHM?

[Dale]

WTF? Why would your tank sub WHM?

Um... Alienmonkey, we was talking about the paladin in a healing role, not a tank role.

[Zagen]

Dale I don't think you know what a healer job does...

When you say Cure Potency isn't that important you obviously have no clue how the healer role works, WHMs strive to hit the 50% cap for a reason ~_~

[Alienmonkey]

Um... Alienmonkey, we was talking about the paladin in a healing role, not a tank role.

Oh. Well dur of course it can be a healer if you sub WHM LOL. Bard/whm is most definitely better than pld/whm though, if you're talking /whm healers.

It is btw true that cure potency trumps healing skill. cure potency > mnd > vit > healing skill is the order of importance for stats when it comes to cures.

[Dale]

Dale I don't think you know what a healer job does...

When you say Cure Potency isn't that important you obviously have no clue how the healer role works, WHMs strive to hit the 50% cap for a reason ~_~

I play healer all the time Zagen, i assure you I know what it does, and i stand by my point. You are exagerating the need to have a high cure potency stat, and the mere absense of a 10% to 35% gap is not going to make you suck at healing like you claim.

[Dale]

Oh. Well dur of course it can be a healer if you sub WHM LOL. Bard/whm is most definitely better than pld/whm though, if you're talking /whm healers.

It is btw true that cure potency trumps healing skill. cure potency > mnd > vit > healing skill is the order of importance for stats when it comes to cures.

That would depend on the situation. Are you telling me a warrior using a light staff (in theory) will be able to out-heal a paladin with no cure potency stats because he has the extra cure potency from the staff? I hope you aren't sillly enough to believe that.

And I disagree that a bard/whm can heal better than a paladin is capable of.

[Alienmonkey]

That would depend on the situation. Are you telling me a warrior using a light staff will be able to out-heal a paladin with no cure potency stats because he has the extra cure potency from the staff? I hope you aren't sillly enough to believe that.

And I disagree that a bard/whm can heal better than a paladin is capable of.

Yes a war/whm with light staff will have better cures than a pld/whm without it. Healing skill does barely anything.

A bard/whm has ballads if he needs refresh, or he can regen the entire group with paeon for no mp at all.