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    Player Oakrest's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebbieGibson View Post
    Lol how is pld a jack of all trades? It's supposed to be good at damage mitigation and holding hate. It's a tank.
    Maybe it's fairer to say: a jack of many trades. It tanks, cures, does damage, mitigates damage, etc... anyone of those four mentioned examples would be better served of a job that focuses in that area. Again, that's fine - it just is very weak overall right now.
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    Last edited by Oakrest; 06-27-2011 at 04:09 AM.

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    Player Kwate's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakrest View Post
    Maybe it's fairer to say: a jack of many trades. It tanks, cures, does damage, mitigates damage, etc... anyone of those four mentioned examples would be better served of a job that focuses in that area. Again, that's fine - it just is very weak overall right now.
    PLD doesn't need to be a jack of many trades, that's BLU. PLD just needs a few intelligent tweeks that are actually useful. Which I hope to see in the foreseeable future.
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    Player DebbieGibson's Avatar
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    Tanks traditionally do not do well as healers and damage dealers. It is not strange that pld sucks at those and it wouldn't be a travesty if they were never given the ability to do such a thing.
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    Player Dale's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebbieGibson View Post
    Tanks traditionally do not do well as healers and damage dealers. It is not strange that pld sucks at those and it wouldn't be a travesty if they were never given the ability to do such a thing.
    Paladins do not suck at healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    Paladins do not suck at healing.
    Oh yeah that's right pld gets cure 5 6 -na erase esuna sacrifice haste regen curaga afflatus divine seal and a huge mp pool.
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    Player Dale's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alienmonkey View Post
    Oh yeah that's right pld gets cure 5 6 -na erase esuna sacrifice haste regen curaga afflatus divine seal and a huge mp pool.
    Most of the stuff you mentioned paladins can get by subbing the right job, so your argument is pretty weak. The only job in the game that gets cure 5 and 6 is white mage, so i guess by your standards all jobs suck at healing except for white mage...

    Like i said earlier, people are so eager to say paladins suck at something they hold them to ridiculous standards. As i've said before and i guess i'll say again, just because another job does something better doesn't mean you suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    Most of the stuff you mentioned paladins can get by subbing the right job, so your argument is pretty weak.
    WTF? Why would your tank sub WHM?
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    Player Ziyyigo-Tipyigo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alienmonkey View Post
    Oh yeah that's right pld gets cure 5 6 -na erase esuna sacrifice haste regen curaga afflatus divine seal and a huge mp pool.
    If I could get Afflatus Solace from subbing WHM, my PLD would never sub anything else.

    Dear Altana, that would crash the server!
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    Player Kwate's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebbieGibson View Post
    Tanks traditionally do not do well as healers and damage dealers. It is not strange that pld sucks at those and it wouldn't be a travesty if they were never given the ability to do such a thing.
    They only suck in healing when compared to a WHM or a BLU with a good MND build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwate View Post
    They only suck in healing when compared to a WHM or a BLU with a good MND build.
    Don't forget SCH for stronger Cures with JAs, AoE Buffs/Status removals. Sure a PLD/SCH could do this but not as well as SCH main due to only 2 charges not accounting for better cure gear.

    Or how RDM can handle curing for a longer amount of time due to refresh 2. Also that spiffy cure pot staff trumps light staff PLD can get.

    Or how about a BRD/WHM who is also on the cure pot staff and has access to ballad2/3 as well

    Edit: Forgot how SMN is on cure pot staff has access to a cure pot+14% body through battle trophies on top of the buffs/cures their avatars could do.

    So yes PLD is a sucky healer.
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    Last edited by Zagen; 07-02-2011 at 01:35 AM.

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