A single simple solution to Paladin

[Kwate]

Maybe it's fairer to say: a jack of many trades. It tanks, cures, does damage, mitigates damage, etc... anyone of those four mentioned examples would be better served of a job that focuses in that area. Again, that's fine - it just is very weak overall right now.

PLD doesn't need to be a jack of many trades, that's BLU. PLD just needs a few intelligent tweeks that are actually useful. Which I hope to see in the foreseeable future.

[DebbieGibson]

Tanks traditionally do not do well as healers and damage dealers. It is not strange that pld sucks at those and it wouldn't be a travesty if they were never given the ability to do such a thing.

[Dale]

The problem is nothing DEF based, it's the fact that DD's can tank almost as efficiently, can cause more damage and hold hate without alot of extra gadget abilities. PLD I think is perfect for alliance type setup, but when you're doing 3-5 people lowman (which is the majority) every slot counts. PLD defensively is great, offensively is where it becomes a liability, especially when other DD jobs are so potent at 90.

No I disagree. Defense is part of the bias that feeds into this retarded anti-paladin fervor. Shadows and high evade do trump physical defense on this game on a lot of different mobs. And just because a ninja or theif deals with damage better on certain bosses than a paladin does for some strange reason everyone wants to say paladins suck. It's stupid i'll admit, but defense deffinitely plays a roll, and it's not all offense in nature.

But that aside, the paladin does have it's own unique strengths and is solid, more so now than ever in the past and I love the job. No class is best on every thing, but for some weird reason people expect this of paladins. Don't ask me why.

[Dale]

Tanks traditionally do not do well as healers and damage dealers. It is not strange that pld sucks at those and it wouldn't be a travesty if they were never given the ability to do such a thing.

Paladins do not suck at healing.

[Kwate]

Tanks traditionally do not do well as healers and damage dealers. It is not strange that pld sucks at those and it wouldn't be a travesty if they were never given the ability to do such a thing.

They only suck in healing when compared to a WHM or a BLU with a good MND build.

[Zagen]

They only suck in healing when compared to a WHM or a BLU with a good MND build.

Don't forget SCH for stronger Cures with JAs, AoE Buffs/Status removals. Sure a PLD/SCH could do this but not as well as SCH main due to only 2 charges not accounting for better cure gear.

Or how RDM can handle curing for a longer amount of time due to refresh 2. Also that spiffy cure pot staff trumps light staff PLD can get.

Or how about a BRD/WHM who is also on the cure pot staff and has access to ballad2/3 as well

Edit: Forgot how SMN is on cure pot staff has access to a cure pot+14% body through battle trophies on top of the buffs/cures their avatars could do.

So yes PLD is a sucky healer.

[Alienmonkey]

Paladins do not suck at healing.

Oh yeah that's right pld gets cure 5 6 -na erase esuna sacrifice haste regen curaga afflatus divine seal and a huge mp pool.

[Kwate]

Don't forget SCH for stronger Cures with JAs, AoE Buffs/Status removals. Sure a PLD/SCH could do this but not as well as SCH main due to only 2 charges not accounting for better cure gear.

Or how RDM can handle curing for a longer amount of time due to refresh 2. Also that spiffy cure pot staff trumps light staff PLD can get.

Or how about a BRD/WHM who is also on the cure pot staff and has access to ballad2/3 as well

Edit: Forgot how SMN is on cure pot staff has access to a cure pot+14% body through battle trophies on top of the buffs/cures their avatars could do.

So yes PLD is a sucky healer.

Minor differences. Augments within Cure 4 still don't take you near Cure 5 range, so what does it matter? PLD are no way great healers, but they don't suck too bad and within range of other mages was my point.

[Zagen]

Minor differences. Augments within Cure 4 still don't take you near Cure 5 range, so what does it matter? PLD are no way great healers, but they don't suck too bad and within range of other mages was my point.

But that's the point I'm making they aren't "within range of other mages" every job I mentioned has access to cure 4 just like PLD except PLD can only reach a Cure potency of 20% not counting augmented armor. RDM/SCH/BRD/SMN/BLM all can reach 35% and SMN can reach 49%. That puts PLD in the 8th position for healer dunno about you but to me being 8th means it sucks at healing. Not even counting DNC which I'd rank higher than PLD making it 9th...

[Kwate]

Lol ok Zagen point taken.