Red is obsolete.

[Stylin]

You're surprised that a job that is referred to as a "Jack of all trades, Master of none" doesn't have many "unique" qualities? The whole premise behind the job is it steals qualities from other jobs.

That's not what being a Jack means. At all.

Being a Jack also implies that you're worth your salt at any given trade.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

That's not what being a Jack means. At all.

Being a Jack also implies that you're worth your salt at any given trade.

Which admittedly is rather sparse where RDM is concerned at the moment, nuking wise we are good at that, once less tier than BLM is a good way for it to be.

Healing and Melee though we are rather far behind on.

[Kiroko]

I think everyone is looking too black and white at it. If the Rdm keeps people alive, helps in the situation in some positive way, then they are still worth having like any other job. Yes some jobs are better than others but its how you use them that matters.

[Duelle]

what attracted me was Fast Cast, the 'unique' ability to refresh yourself or the party, 'unique' spells such as Enspells, and also being the best enfeebler.

Too bad none of those were what a Red Mage should have been. Specially so in the case of Refresh.

That's not what being a Jack means. At all.

Being a Jack also implies that you're worth your salt at any given trade.

Except that in the context of MMO game balance it is an OP concept. Hence why hybrids work so well in single player RPGs but tend to get shafted with support or healing in MMOs.

[Babekeke]

All is lost. So I quit. One note is that I do not have Abby.

This is what your whole rant is about... you don't have abby and everyone else does, so you're sat on your own in aht urgan.

/thread

[scaevola]

you play a bad job in a game where every job can solo everything anyway

DWI B)

[idx1]

RDMs excel at hindering their foes. They do very well in this field, and without a RDM a mob can be a pain. To my knowledge, NOTHING beats Refresh II. /SCH Sublimation is only 2MP a tic.

SCH at 90 is 7MP a tick Sublimination - Refresh II is six.
/SCH at 45 is 3/mp a tick - without even the need to use any mp to cast Refresh but receiving the refresh effect.

Refresh II < SCH and /SCH.

Other jobs need a Red more so he needs himself.

And no, I can get Abby whenever I want. But what does a Red get from Abby - Empyrean that will actually allow a Red to have a stronger Refresh effect that a SCH that gets it naturally?
OK.
I'll pay for that.

And no I wasn't sitting in Aht Urghan - there have been an influx of new characters that Abby burned and had Limit Break problems because nobody gave a rat's ass about them vs. Abby burning.

Last days before I quit was helping them get their genkais done.

Whether somebody has Abby or not does not entail one being better than the other.
ohwaitschisomg.

You guys can nitpick at my posts and attempt to trump one minute side of a discussion - but please don't forget the BOLD text posted in the first post.


A Red is nice - but only when you don't have a Blue, Black, White, or any other mage around.

[Neisan_Quetz]

You can stop making yourself look stupid now, you already confirmed earlier you don't know how gearswaps work. I suppose it's excusable since you said you don't have Aby, so you don't have any gear from there either!

[idx1]

Neisan - virtual items take you so far in life - but if it's a conduit that allows you to feel better than someone else, I'm more than happy for you.

You can bark all you want about how gearsets work - you've nothing but assumptions and slander, sadly.

[Leonlionheart]

Lol I'm liking this thread, OP even brought up virtual items vs RL argument! I love it when they do that to try and validate why they can't even put in minimal effort to get better at something that they spend time doing, or enjoy doing.