Claim System + Call for Help Code = Win

[blowfin]

And the current Claim system is there in order to keep morons from clogging up content.

That's bollocks, SE had no idea how popular Abyss was going to be.

It wasn't really that relevant before Abyss either, because the content simply wasn't there to clog. Problems with the claim system have really (and I mean really) been magnified by the game content we've got over the past year. In particular it's the fact that there's every type of player in Abyss from innocent care bear types to the cut-throat "stop having fun" people.

[Greatguardian]

That's bollocks, SE had no idea how popular Abyss was going to be.

It wasn't really that relevant before Abyss either, because the content simply wasn't there to clog. Problems with the claim system have really (and I mean really) been magnified by the game content we've got over the past year. In particular it's the fact that there's every type of player in Abyss from innocent care bear types to the cut-throat "stop having fun" people.

It was meant to be ironic. But saying that claim system mechanics were not relevant before Abyssea is plain ignorant. Claim system mechanics were, if anything, significantly more relevant in the days of World-Spawn HNMs than they are and will ever be in Abyssea.

It is not the game's fault that perma-casuals who have never done anything more "hardcore endgame" than Nyzul Isle have never been exposed to competitive play in FFXI. The fact, and I mean absolute fact, remains that Abyssea has made the game significantly less hyper-competitive than it has ever been.

If the FFXI Claim system survived 9 years of RotZ Kings, I promise you it is not suddenly glitching out in Abyssea. The fault is player error, period.

[Glamdring]

It was meant to be ironic. But saying that claim system mechanics were not relevant before Abyssea is plain ignorant. Claim system mechanics were, if anything, significantly more relevant in the days of World-Spawn HNMs than they are and will ever be in Abyssea.

Not true. Before Abyssea the consensus was that "the HNMLS were going to monopolize the NM, whoops, it's been up for .047 seconds, ___JacktardsLS got claim, see ya, we'll move to Orcish Overlord since these guys are stuck here, wait, we're not an HNMLS, we're not allowed to fight an HNM, let's just move to campaign."

Abyssea moved those HNMLS-types into direct competition with regular players in a general zone. Unfortunately, regular players refuse to relinquish all end-game type content to the exclusive use of those types, nor to become their mindless DD drones/stooges, thus we have conflict. If regular players would simply farm, pop and die within seconds to voluntarily surrender __NM to ___JacktardsLS as they are required to do according to the ___JacktardsLS Code of Conduct we wouldn't even be discussing this issue.