Raise the Minimum Requirement for entering Abyssea to Lv70 or 75

[Akujima]

I have a question for the anti-abyssea leech people.

I'm currently doing ice TotM staff (ya ya, I know, I'm gimp for not having it done by now, bite me).

I'm on Trial 1708. Thats the "kill 200 bees with 150+ ice damage at the end"

Now, I'm in Wajorm linking 6 bees together, nuking them down to 0 with Blizzaga III at the end, and collecting 6 kills at once. According to your logic, that is a shortcut, and shortcuts are bad. You would rather have me kill each bee individually, effectively doubling the 3 hours this would take to 6 hours worth of work. Why?

Also, while I was doing the "kill 150 arcana mobs with 50+ ice damage" part, I did snolls in Ugly range. During ice weather, snow geodes dropped. Now I have 15 snow geodes for my final trial. Since I have my final trial done already, is that considered cheating since I went out of order and/or did 2 trials at the same time, which the game "intended" people to do 1 trial at a time?

What is your response to that?

My response to this is, the lot of you are fanatical and won't grasp the concept of a healthy balance. You keep coming up with extreme examples to defend your case. If the cap to Abyssea was 70~75, Abyssea would be no different then it is now, it would just balance out the population outside.

Wait, is this your argument? Because Abyssea gives a chance for a level 30 newcommer to get to 90 as soon as possible, they can't do any of the stuff that everyone else had to do pre-abyssea?

What are they really missing?

Outdated and horrible-to-wear/use Artifacts?
Meaningless quests with no real rewards?
NMs that does nothing (looking at you Mimas)?
Missions that they can do at a stronger level by themselves compared to a level 30 perspective of the same fights?

You really think that they are missing anything? Do you really want them to go thru years of torment because you went thru the same thing? For what? Because you feel justified in doing the same thing everyone did at that time?

Come on man, stop being selfish. Telling everyone they are cheating and/or demanding this level cap will cause new players to LEAVE which is what we don't want in this game at its stage of life cycle.

Actually, right now in Asura I can name 4~5 people that I just met, who are new to the game or are returning from a very long long time ago. They don't do Abyssea, and they don't plan to until they hit 75. The only people who would be complaining, are those who haven't leeched all their jobs to Lv90. One of those players also told me her boyfriend quit playing BECAUSE of Abyssea, but she still plays the other content that you consider a waste of time. So YES, people are still playing and do other things in this game, even if they don't like Abyssea.

Also, what are you afraid of? You think the LvCap will be risen? SE will not even comment on this thread, because any comment will have a negative response from the community. The sole reason I created this thread, was to show SE that there is an imbalance in the design of Abyssea and to not make the same mistake over again when creating the Lv99 endgame content.

Abyssea was most likely a test design for the Dev's to see how the players react to it. They have already said there won't be anymore Abyssea zones, but the fact that people can skyrocket all the way to Lv90 (and 99 when it comes out) makes the "normal" way to exp obsolete.

And answer this: What is the point in having those other zones, with other content such as FoV, GoV and "normal" EXP Zones/Mobs, if Abyssea is truly the only worthwhile way to LvUp? It's basically the same comparison with equipment found inside Abyssea and equipment found inside Salvage/Nyzul/Sky/Sea/Einherjar/ZNM. All that gear is useless now because of Abyssea gear and now with Lv30 Cap, all those zones designed to LvUp 30~75 are useless because of Abyssea EXP gain.

Expansions/Addons shouldn't make everything else completely useless, there should be a reason to complete all that other content still. You think the majority of people who thought it was ok to AbyLeech, will waste their time going through that other content? I think not.


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I don't know why I continue posting here...ugh...