New ideas for v2 Two - Hour abilities.

Whitemage 72 Hour Ability: Sacrum Terra: Divine area of effect barrier that Constantly knocks back any aggressive enemy target that approaches you, Also within the barrier (Shorten sickness timers) (Enemy magic immunity ~weaken state party only) (Weaken state party members get auto raise status)

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Originally Posted by Denabond

Bst Stampede: Makes 4 copies of the bst's current pet(for a total of 5 pets). All pets will have 300 TP when Stampede is used. Commands given will apply to all pets (ex when using Sic, all pets will do a WS at the same time). Duration 2 mins





Sch (insert cool name here couldn't think of one): Increases spell potency depending on day/weather. Duration 1 min
Same day or single weather effect = 50%.
Same day + Single weather or double weather effect = 100%.
Same Day + Double Weather = 150%

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BST Stampede could be like Choco / Mog Summon in Final Fantasy VII. Have a Mob come and run over the mob you're fighting. Higher the level, the better the mob call and Damage.

Since the SCH 2 hr you propose is all about Day and Weather then calling it Carpe Diem ("Sieze the Day" in latin) seems appropriate.

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Originally Posted by Shoko

It is indeed. Do believe it was Mojo, or someone. Meteor apparently didn't do much to either Diabolos or Fenrir, both of which are obvious darkness-based summons.

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Meteor is 100% dark based. I only originally said "I believe it is" because I thought everyone else knew lol. I guess not. Meteor is an AoE dark-based elemental spell. And as a BLM, I'm honestly not looking forward to it. That spell lags me to all hell. I still think a realistic 2hr ability for BLM would be to nullify all elements of its spells and maybe beef up the MACC and MAB a bit. Or wouldn't it make sense to simply decrease the casting time of nukes with our existing 2hr Manafont?

Remember, you guys asked for it ;)

First, additions to existing 2-Hour Job Ability effects:

Perfect Dodge: Allow dodging ranged attacks.
Invincible: Nullify ranged attack damage.
Azure Lore: Increase duration and apply Chain Affinity and Burst Affinity to all Blue Magic for the duration.
Benediction: Raises dead party members, and those raised do not have weakness. Always removes all status ailments, including doom, and adds "bar-all elements and status" and Regen aura for an extended duration after.
Overdrive: Each maneuver counts as three of that element active. All attachments are active, regardless of current maneuvers. Attachments that normally consume maneuvers do not. Automaton combat skills increase +20.
Eagle Eye Shot: Never misses unless target has Perfect Dodge active.

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Advanced additional 2hrs (or new 1 hour abilities!):

Warrior: Rend - Attacks ignore enemy defense for duration and inflict a "bleeding" Damage over Time effect that also reduces enemy defense. (ignored defense includes weapon-type defenses, physical defense, etc)

Thief: Master Thief - Critical hits have the same chance as Sneak Attack and Trick Attacks to increase the Treasure Hunter effect count. Critical hit rate and damage increases greatly. Hitting the enemy adds an effect that lowers the enemy's defensive critical hit evasion rate and offensive critical hit rate. All the thief's attacks include a chance to steal from the enemy. (can steal an item, gil, buff, TP, HP and MP. If the enemy does not have an item, gil or buff, it only attempts to steal the remaining options, stronger than Twilight Knife)

Monk: Grappling - Monk's defensive skills activate more often. All monk attacks gain accuracy and bypass enemy defensive skills (parry, counterattack, guard, shield) for the duration. Monk attacks have the additional effect of dealing damage to the enemy's TP.

White Mage: Divine Hammer - For the duration (fairly long), all Whm attacks are converted to "divine magic" damage. The damage done by Whm weaponskills is multiplied by at least double and split among party members in range as HP restoration. When the whm uses a weaponskill, remove an ailment from the party members in range. The Whm's weaponskills are always accompanied by the "Holy" spell, even if they have not learned the spell for normal use.

Black Mage: Mana Burst - All spells cast for the duration land with "Magic Burst" bonus. There is a chance after each spell cast, that the MP cost to cast it is distributed to party members who do not have max MP (including the Blm who cast.)

Red Mage: Spell Sword - The next offensive single-target spell cast by the Rdm is "Cast" at no MP cost during the first hit of all auto-attack rounds for the duration.

Beastmaster: Master's Rage - For the duration, grant the "all-killer" effect to Beastmaster and any pet called or charmed. This "all-killer" effect has a higher activation rate than normal killer effects. Adds 3 charges to ready. Reduces the recast of Sic. Allows the use of pet's TP moves when the pet only has 50TP through either Ready or Sic.

Bard: Hero's Song - Raises the stats of the party and raises the "effective level" of the party +10 for combat calculations. This 2hour adds a separate effect (not a song slot).

Paladin: Altana's Light - The Paladin cannot be killed when they reach 0 hp for the duration of this status. The Paladin's HP can exceed their max HP by double - this effect lasts for a while after the end of Altana's Light (their HP does not automatically drop back to their normal max HP at the end of the "Altana's Light" effect)

Dark Knight: Fearful Strikes - For the duration, critical hits inflict terror. The lower the enemy's life, the higher the Dark Knight's critical hit rate. While the enemy is afflicted with this special terror, the Dark Knight drains its HP over time.

Ranger: Death from Above - Firing arrows at high arcs, they land with tremendous force, negating any distance penalties. Since the attacks seem to come from directly above, the enemy does not know who shot them, thus not increasing the enmity toward the Ranger. Reduces time between ranged attacks.

Samurai: TP Generator (needs a better name) - For the duration, the Samurai gains +10 store TP and all of the Samurai's auto-attacks grant a fraction of the gained TP to party members within range as well. Weaponskills can give between 25 and 100% TP to each party member (rarely 100%). This sharing is not subtracted by the TP gained by the Samurai, it is generated as a bonus to the party members including the Samurai (even when solo).

Ninja: Striking Shadow Image - For the duration, as long as the Ninja has at least 1 Utsusemi shadow image active, a "pet" ninja clone will join them in battle. If Mijin Gakure is used while this is active, each shadow will add to the damage. (only one pet ninja clone will ever be present despite having multiple shadows active, however, it will continue to exist as long as any shadows are up, mimicing every move the Ninja makes, with lower power)

Dragoon: Sky Splitter - All jump timers reset, All jump recasts are reduced to 10 seconds for the duration. (Shared timers are split.) All jumps are accompanied by bright lightning strikes (just graphic effect) and the crash of thunder.

Summoner: Astral Gate - For the duration, reduces Bloodpact Rage and Ward recast timers. Summoned monster gains all stats. Perpetuation costs are suspended. Summoner cannot move, holding open the summoning circle.

Blue Mage: Mark of Zahak - Allow use of all blue magic known to the blue mage for duration, regardless of being set or not. (If they have to temporarily turn into Soul Flayers for this effect, so be it)

Corsair: Jinx - Inflicting the enemy with this status makes all sorts of things go wrong for them. They have lower chances of anything "good" happening, such as: critical hits turn into critical misses, evading an attack can turn into getting hit with a critical hit, TP attacks can backfire causing damage or effects on themselves instead. Player attacks have much higher rates of success against the jinxed enemy.

Puppetmaster: Ensemble - The current automaton temporarily disappears (if active) and each automaton available to the Puppetmaster as a full set appear together at one time, each performing a powerful attack before disappearing, and the original automaton returns to battle (if one was active). (only head and body matching appear, not combinations: Valoredge/Slashing, Sharpshot/Ranged-Piercing, Harlequin/Blunt, Stormwaker/Magical, and any future models should be added)

Dancer: Vivifying Waltz - For the duration, whenever the dancer gains 50tp, they trigger the Vivifying waltz effect which costs no TP and restores some HP to the party members within range plus gives each healed party member some TP (10-25). The count for the required 50tp is kept separate from current TP%, and excess TP earned above 50 in this separate counter is reset to 0 upon activation of the Vivifying Waltz effect each time.

Scholar: Martial Tactics - Declaring Martial Tactics on an enemy will enhance skillchain and magic burst damage to that target. Additionally, the strict time limits normally required to enable these effects are removed, and any weaponskills or magic cast on the enemy that can chain together, will chain together, regardless of the time between actions.

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I sorta held back a little... oh well.

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Originally Posted by AyinDygra

Ninja: Striking Shadow Image - For the duration, as long as the Ninja has at least 1 Utsusemi shadow image active, a "pet" ninja clone will join them in battle. If Mijin Gakure is used while this is active, each shadow will add to the damage. (only one pet ninja clone will ever be present despite having multiple shadows active, however, it will continue to exist as long as any shadows are up, mimicing every move the Ninja makes, with lower power)

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I'd like to see that as an job ability 3 minute active/5 minute timer vs 2hr. When shadows wipe clone disappears, recast re-calls a new clone. Mind if post it in the NINJA forum? <.< (I know twelveozmouse will bash it like everything else over there but I still like the idea) :D

how about abilities based on jobs you have leveled and your subjob why not make it available where you do both subjob quest and you have 2 subjobs like pld99/war49/mnk49 then you get the two hour abilities of your subjobs. you can use each seperatly and when you mix the jobs you get a unique 2 hour example pld/war/mnk finest hour hundred fist mighty strikes and invicible all rolled into one would be an uber hate holder for pld. or pld/rdm/blm you get invincible with chainspell and manafront.

i would also like to see ninja 2 hour change from Mijin Gakure to a ninja clone ability where your char splits into 2 or 3 and ther attacks and actions are threefold basically the clones do what the main does. make Mijin Gakure and 30 min ability or something

i would like also to see drk get an ability where a blm or other black magic caster can target there weapon with an elemental spell that when a drk closes a ws it automatically causes a magic burst effect with lots more damage and inflict a status alement like burst with ice causes paralize

just some ideahs

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Originally Posted by Bulrogg

I'd like to see that as an job ability 3 minute active/5 minute timer vs 2hr.

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Having it active that much of the time would make Ninja too much like pet jobs. This is really more of a way to augment ninjutsu:
Cast once, and get each shadow magnifying the attack by casting the same ninjutsu.
Throw a shuriken and have all shadows throw shadow shuriken. (not ammo)
Mijin Gakure and all your shadows blow up.
In the meantime, one shadow attacks along side you, only because the boss NPCs get this bonus on multiple copies that can actually fight independently, and it's based on that ability (only one pet is supported by the combat system, not counting Adventuring Fellow, otherwise I'd have copied it directly from the bosses).

In short, I don't think the ability should be active very often.

So let me get this straight. Every job will have two Two-Hour Abilities, one for use when it's your main job, and one for when it's your support job? That sounds awesome.

Fell Weapon
Dark Knight's Main Two-Hour Ability
Duration: 1 minute
Critical hit rate doubles, all changes to HP are nullified while in effect (meaning you can't be healed, but you also can't be hurt, nor do you take damage over time from effects like Poison or Dia), your current level of Haste is doubled, ignoring the current Haste caps (i.e., you had 26% Haste in equipment, this would double to 52% Haste), and your attacks never miss. When this effect wears off, you instantly drop to 1 HP.

Make Blood Weapon the support Two-Hour Ability, since it kind of sucks. A support job's Two-Hour Ability should never exceed the potential power of the main job's Two-Hour Ability.

Also, your main job should have access to both of its Two-Hour Abilities, but in that case, have them share a recast timer, so you can still use your support job's Two-Hour Ability.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Hey gang! Thanks as always for the feedback! We're letting the dev. team know about your comments and ideas, so make sure to keep 'em coming! :)

Let your imagination run wild! Then reel it in a little bit... then post! Or, don't reel it in at all!

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sounds good to me! here i go!

These are all the ideas i had and i put alot of effort into them. for those of you who may go"why the hell does this do that to my job? that's stupid!" the reason is this: For each ability that has a great amount of power their must be an equal or greater drawback to using them to prevent the ability from being abused and being overpowered.
List of 2hrs:

White Mage: Divine Protection: For 30 seconds any healing or enhancing spell a whm casts also gives a temporary invincible effect that lasts for 3-5 seconds.

Black Mage: Super Nova: A huge explosion occurs dealing HIGH amounts of non-elemental damage to all foes in the range of black mage.

Warrior: Kamikaze: The Warrior charges at a foe and explodes apon impact dealing one-hit K.O. to any normal monster and a high amount of damage to an NM. After the 2hr is over the Warrior can not be raised and is sent directly to their Home point,losing the standard exp they would lose had they died normally at their level.

Monk: Black Belt: For 30 seconds ANY attack directed at the monk is countered and deals triple the normal damage done by the monk.

Thief: Master Thief: The Thief can steal one rare item from the NM/normal monster that would normally drop from being killed. This item would be chosen at random and would NEVER be a common item plus be Rare/Ex no matter what the original property of the item is.(this is to prevent RMTs from monopolizing this ability since it could not be traded or auctioned)

Red Mage: Triple cast: The Red mage could cast up to three spells at once for their normal cost for 30 seconds. For each spell the red mage would choose the target of each spell then once they confirmed all spells and targets all three spells would be cast at once in the order they were chosen(The order is for the sake of the following). while this 2hr is in effect the rdm however could NOT use its convert ability. If the Red mage does not have enough MP to cast one of the three spells then it is skipped and the next chosen spell is cast instead.

Paladin: Holy Nova: The Paladin performs a strike on a selected monster for a huge amount of holy damage which negates resistance. If the target of this ability is undead the monster is instead instantly K.O'd unless it is a NM in which case the damage is increased by 1.5x

Dark Knight: Unholy Might: The Dark Knight gains a large attack boost and can continue to fight even with it's HP at zero for sixty seconds. Once the Dark Knight's HP reaches zero it can no longer be healed or more the case healing spells will read"has no effect" when cast on the Dark Knight. Once the sixty seconds are up however the Dark Knight falls dead losing double the standard exp it would lose for it's level.

Beastmaster: Untamed Beast: The BeastMaster would be able to charm a normally non-charmable monster and control it for five minuets. This includes NMs however BCNM monsters would remain immune. When the NM is uncharmed it would turn on it's master and yield no exp or drops like a normal charmed monster would.

Bard: The Last Verse: The Bard would play a song that gives all party members in the area of effect a Large attack,evasion,defense, and accuracy boost as well as a Reraise III effect which would last the standard amount of time a song lasts. However when the song wears off all party members who gained the effects of the song would be inflicted with Weakened status for five minuets.

Ranger: Bullseye!: The Ranger would gain a huge ranged accuracy and critical hit rate boost for 30 seconds.

Samurai: Seppuku: The Samurai commits suicide by stabbing themselves but does not lose exp on top of that they raise non-weakened.(well aware this is a ninja copy but hey..if you look em up on wiki they had it first!)

Ninja: Kage Bunshin: The Ninja creates a real copy of themselves that lasts for three minutes. this copy would mimic the original player's movements and actions move for move and action for action. However the copy's stats would be roughly 1/4 less than the original Ninja.

Dragoon: Dragon's Crest: The Dragoon and their wyvern would merge into one instead of the wyvern leaving the field like it does with the other 2hr. The Dragoon's attack,defense, would be given a large boost along with a full TP gauge that does not go down when a weaponskill is used. During the time of this effect the Dragoon would have access to a new weaponskill called "Crest Breaker" This weapon skill would be a ten fold attack against the monster this weaponskill would deal an extremely high amount of damage even to NMs however once used the ability's effect's disappear and your "Call Wyvern" Recast Timer is set to a one time 2hrs instead of it's normal 20 minuets. if the "Crest Breaker" Weapon skill is not used this 2hr lasts for 30 seconds and the Dragoon's "Call Wyvern" Recast timer remains unchanged.

Summoner: Odin's Pact: Once activated all party members in the summoner's party are given a "Protected by Odin" Status effect which lasts for 5 minuets. If a Party member under this effect would be killed by an attack Odin appears for a moment and shields them by throwing down a spear in front of the monster stunning it and removing all hate from the party member. Once three of the six members of the party or one member is protected three times the effect disappears from all party members. During this time Odin CAN NOT be summoned by any summoner in the party while under the effects of "Astral Flow".

Blue mage: Azure Rush: The Blue mage can instant cast blue magic spells they have prepped for 30 seconds at their normal cost.

Corsair: Russian Roulette: The Corsair fires a instant K.O shot at a random character. this can be a fellow party member,themselves, or monster. this is chosen by a cursor running along all members and monster's within the area of effect slowing down after a few seconds and stopping randomly. The Monster.Player, or Corsair the cursor lands on it instantly K.O.'d not even NMs are immune to this 2hr skill and will be instantly K.O.'d as well. This ability CAN NOT BE USED if there is less than 3 members in the Corsair's party.

Puppet-Master: Overload: For 30 seconds the Puppet-Master's automation is given a huge attack,defense,accuracy, haste boost. Once this effect ends you will be inflicted with an overload effect that lasts for up to 5 minuets.

Dancer: Final Flourish: The dancer sacrifices all remaining TP to use a Raise effect on all party members. The tier of raise depends on how much TP the Dancer has. 100%=Raise 1, 200%=Raise II, 300%=Raise III. Once used the Dancer is unable to accumulate TP for 5 minuets. The Dancer MUST have at least 100% TP to use this Ability.

Scholar: Eureka: Scholar gains access to all spells and stratagems for 30 seconds and every Black magic spell cast will have the effect of Parsimony,Alacrity,Ebullience,Focalization,Equanimity, and Immanence. Each white magic spell will have the following effects of Penury,Celerity,Rapture,Altruism,Tranquility, and Perpetuance. Once this effect ends however the scholar will be unable to use ANY stratagem or their light and dark arts for 20 minuets.

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Originally Posted by AyinDygra

I sorta held back a little... oh well.

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Not trying to wipe your quote off but i'd rather not quote a text block...lol

anyways...while all those abilities are awesome..most of which if not all are severally over-powered there are no substantial drawbacks to using them at all.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

most of which if not all are severally over-powered there are no substantial drawbacks to using them at all.

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This is true... because...

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Let your imagination run wild! Then reel it in a little bit... then post! Or, don't reel it in at all!

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I'll let SE add drawbacks, if any are needed.
Very few of our current 2hrs have drawbacks that I'm aware of:
Ninja (dead, can be used strategically to be a bonus)
Dragoon (lose wyvern, but the call wyvern timer could be up when they use it, and call it right back)
A few others give a large amount of enmity based on their actions, but that can't really be called a drawback.

Blue Mage 72 Hour ability: Immortal Lore: Access to ancient blue magic long forgotton: Dischord Grand Train Aqua Breath Quasar Force Field Rippler Mighty Guard Step Mine Pearl Wind Matra Magic (Under the effect of Immortal Lore all attributes are enhance by 5 and the Job Trait: Azure Guard: Occasionally enemies blue spells have no effect on you.)

Important thing to remember is one of its major drawbacks is it can only be used once ever 2 hours. Its because of this that most people see 2hrs as a OH S#!% button. Its best to think of what all the positives it should do first, then have SE decide whether or not they should have another drawback on top of the 2 hour cooldown.

Puppetmaster: Curtain Call

Duration: 00:05:00

On activation, the player's automaton disappears (with no reset of Activate timer even if automaton is at 100% HP) and a percentage of its HP and MP are transferred to the master. For the duration, the master is given access to the abilities of the automaton's frame/head combination, including weapon skills, magic spells, and abilities/traits granted via attachments. Player may continue to use Maneuvers (and gain stats/increase the power of related attachments) without any cooldown timer - however, Overloading immediately ends the two-hour effect.

Paladin: Altana's Beacon

Duration: 00:01:00

This ability requires the Paladin to target a single enemy. All other player enmity is wiped on that target, and only the Paladin may build enmity. Paladin is given a flat -10% damage taken bonus (stacks with gear, can go beyond 50% cap) and every successful shield block gives the Paladin an extra -5% damage taken bonus and an additional 15 seconds of ability time (caps at -50% damage taken and +120 seconds of bonus time.)

Dark Knight: Contract From Below

Duration: 00:02:00

Upon activation, all damage dealt and damage taken by the Dark Knight will be an automatic critical hit.

Bard: Cacophony

Duration: 00:03:00

The Bard gains an Aura that inflicts Attack Down, Defense Down, Magic Accuracy Down, and Magic Evasion Down on all claimed targets within area of effect. Aura effect builds in intensity over time in a similar manner to Avatar's Favor.

Monk 2hr V2: Chuck - Kick attack 100% delay 0 for 30 seconds.

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Originally Posted by Jadey

Dark Knight: Contract From Below

Duration: 00:02:00

Upon activation, all damage dealt and damage taken by the Dark Knight will be an automatic critical hit.

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No, It needs a cooler name. How about Promathia's Bane ?

Milord Promathia would never off such weak power to a Dark Knight. Its like Mighty Strikes except it nerfs you too.

a Contract with Milord would be no less than A combo of Hundred Fists, Mighty Strikes, and Blood Weapon.

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

Puppetmaster: Frame of Mind - Automaton Attachments Work At full Power. -Dur.30sec

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so the pup one is just... overdrive again... but less good? btw overdrive is so lame i had to look it up on wiki to find out what it was called, and pup is my main job.

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Originally Posted by Teraniku

No, It needs a cooler name. How about Promathia's Bane ?

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i actually think the name "Contract from Below" is pretty cool.

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Originally Posted by Dohati

so the pup one is just... overdrive again... but less good? btw overdrive is so lame i had to look it up on wiki to find out what it was called, and pup is my main job.

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I was unaware Overdrive gave the effect of 3x Maneuver to all Attachments making them all work at Full power.


nowait, It doesn't. It allows you to use unlimited Man. but theres still a max of 3. On top of that it just enhances acc/atk/etc, Doesn't Bring all Attachments to their full-Manuever power. (This is obvious when using Attachments like Coiler).

Unless wiki is wrong and my Automaton just doesn't like maximizing Coiler :(

I like the idea of additional 2 hours and a lot of the examples on here. One common element for the WHM ideas is removing weakness, of course. I was always hoping for WHM 95-99 to get the spell Revivessence (sp?), which I believe is cast by Ferrous Coffin in Campaign, and removes weakness on the target party member. It may seem overpowered to allow this as a standard learnable spell instead of a 2 hour, but there are easy ways to mitigate that, like a long recast timer, long casting time, large MP cost, etc.

For the new WHM 2-24 hour ability, I'd like to see a Benediction + revive dead members and remove weakness. I just wouldn't want the weakness removal limited to only this ability.

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Originally Posted by Jadey

Puppetmaster: Curtain Call

Duration: 00:05:00

On activation, the player's automaton disappears (with no reset of Activate timer even if automaton is at 100% HP) and a percentage of its HP and MP are transferred to the master. For the duration, the master is given access to the abilities of the automaton's frame/head combination, including weapon skills, magic spells, and abilities/traits granted via attachments. Player may continue to use Maneuvers (and gain stats/increase the power of related attachments) without any cooldown timer - however, Overloading immediately ends the two-hour effect.

Paladin: Altana's Beacon

Duration: 00:01:00

This ability requires the Paladin to target a single enemy. All other player enmity is wiped on that target, and only the Paladin may build enmity. Paladin is given a flat -10% damage taken bonus (stacks with gear, can go beyond 50% cap) and every successful shield block gives the Paladin an extra -5% damage taken bonus and an additional 15 seconds of ability time (caps at -50% damage taken and +120 seconds of bonus time.)

Dark Knight: Contract From Below

Duration: 00:02:00

Upon activation, all damage dealt and damage taken by the Dark Knight will be an automatic critical hit.

Bard: Cacophony

Duration: 00:03:00

The Bard gains an Aura that inflicts Attack Down, Defense Down, Magic Accuracy Down, and Magic Evasion Down on all claimed targets within area of effect. Aura effect builds in intensity over time in a similar manner to Avatar's Favor.

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me likey the pup one c.c i dont think the pld one needs to have a dmg cap of 50% though. i think 90% would be fine, because it only lasts for 2 minutes tops, and may not even get that high depending on the shield skill and type the pld wields. maybe cut the effect boost down to like 2.5% per block so paladins with aegis or ochain don't get the 90% right off the bat.

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

I was unaware Overdrive gave the effect of 3x Maneuver to all Attachments making them all work at Full power.


nowait, It doesn't. It allows you to use unlimited Man. but theres still a max of 3. On top of that it just enhances acc/atk/etc, Doesn't Bring all Attachments to their full-Manuever power. (This is obvious when using Attachments like Coiler).

Unless wiki is wrong and my Automaton just doesn't like maximizing Coiler :(

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you didn't specifiy that it would be the effect of 3 of every maneuver. i just thought "attachments work at full power" just sounds a lot like the overdrive description. the only decent thing about overdrive in my opinion though is that it makes valoredge attack so fast with 3 wind maneuvers and turbo charger. unfortunately valoredge is so poorly imbued in the weaponskill dept. outside the use of bonecrusher in abyssea with crit atmas. (i haven't tried it yet, nobody flame my post if it's still not that strong. lol.)

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Originally Posted by Dohati

you didn't specifiy that it would be the effect of 3 of every maneuver. i just thought "attachments work at full power" just sounds a lot like the overdrive description. the only decent thing about overdrive in my opinion though is that it makes valoredge attack so fast with 3 wind maneuvers and turbo charger. unfortunately valoredge is so poorly imbued in the weaponskill dept. outside the use of bonecrusher in abyssea with crit atmas. (i haven't tried it yet, nobody flame my post if it's still not that strong. lol.)

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Ah, Well, By "Attachments work at full power" I meant of course "Each Attachment works like there was 3x Matching Manuever" for it :)

Which I thought would be badass >.>

Puppetmaster 72 Hour ability: Marionette Rex: Access to choose 1 of 3 unique Marionette frames.

Soldier Frame: Marionette Technique: Limit: Brave Slash Cross Slash Blade Beam Climhazzard Meteorain Finishing Touch Omnislash Cherry Blossom

Mime Frame: Marionette Technique: Mimic: Duplicates any Magic, Weapon skills or Job abilities used.
(Not 2 hours)

Necromancer Frame: Marionette Technique: Possess: Can take control over any fallen "beastmen" body through possession.
Antica Bugbears Gigas Goblins Lamiae Mamool Ja Orcs Moblins Orcish Warmachines Poroggos Qiqirn Quadav Sahagin Tonberries Trolls Yagudo.

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Originally Posted by Chiibi

Monk 2hr V2: Chuck - Kick attack 100% delay 0 for 30 seconds.

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Lol, infinite kicks? I like that.

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Originally Posted by Alkalinehoe

Lol, infinite kicks? I like that.

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I think its funny, cause technically, with 0 Delay, anything you engage would simply Die the second you swung. Cause you would create an infinite loop of attacks.

I think it would be funny that, In some cases, the mob would likely "Die-Spawn (Dissapear)" before you even finished swinging :P

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Originally Posted by Alkalinehoe

Well BLMs are supposed to be getting Meteor....

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And SMN's were supposed to get new avatars in 2006 and then again in 2007 and wait 2008 and 2009..... :P

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Originally Posted by Harukusan

True, but I believe Meteor is a Dark elemental spell. Also, something that isn't AoE would likely be better, depending on the situation.

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Isn't it comet that is Dark Based, whereas Meteor in non-elemental.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher

Isn't it comet that is Dark Based, whereas Meteor in non-elemental.

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searched a litle on BG found : (post by Virtuous Saint)

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they aren't non-elemental, they are dark. I resisted both KB's meteors and AV's with a dark elemental build of around 200, granted I only got a few resists against AV, but if you had best possible you could likely resist with decent frequency. The thing about having a dark element build is obviously you can't have much, if any -MDT +MDB gear if you want to resist with any noticeable frequency so if you don't resist you are very likely dead, unless it is a non-manafonted, non-bracelets meteor, e.g. 60-79%HP.

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No, I understand the confusion with Meteor, and obviously I'm not saying it is just dark based, but I am 100% sure that dark elemental build can resist Meteor from both KB and AV, as I tested it personally. I have no more info about Meteor's element than it is resisted by dark resistance gear, it could be multiple.. light+dark, idk, I haven't tested other elemental builds against it.

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I'll take a stab as well!

First, I agree with others that I would like to see some tweeks to our existing 2hr abilities first. Some jobs like BLU and SCH could use a little work. Lowering the timer to 1 hour would also be a plus.

Now for the new abilities! I would place them on a 48 or 72 hour timer.

WHM "Divine Blessing" - Duration: 5 minutes. Increase potency and duration of all Cure and Regen spells. Regen spells receive additional Refresh effect. Curaga and Erase spells effect all PC's. Grants the Pax effect. Allows Erase to remove multiple ailments and new debuffs, including amnesia and weakness. Esuna removes debuffs regardless of whether the WHM also has them. All status removal spells become area of effect. Raise spells becomes area of effect. Greatly enhances all Job Traits and Abilities. White Mage receives the benefits of both Afflatus: Misery and Afflatus: Solace. White mage learns the "Reflect" spell - reflects one magical spell on targeted party member.

RDM "Estoqueur's Fury" - Duration 5 minutes. Increase potency and duration of all Enhancing and Enfeebling magic. Enhancing magic skill increased to A+. Increases sword skill to A+ and increases accuracy, attack and lowers delay. Enspells receive additional effects: Mag Atk down, Eva down, Def. Down, Acc down, Mag Def Down, Attack down and lower resistance to corresponding element. Enspell damage is also increased. Red Mage learns "Death" - instantly KO's a single foe when successful. Ineffective against Undead.

BLM "Mage's Wrath" - Duration 5 minutes. Doubles magic attack and accuracy of all elemental magic spells. Grants Mana Wall effect for the duration. Increases duration/potency of all dark magic (including stun). Greatly enhances all job traits. While under effect, occasionally converts a portion of magical damage into MP. Occasionally converts damage taken into MP. Learns the spell "Death Spikes" Physical damage taken: deals darkness damage and occasionally inflicts "Doom"

BLU "Azure Heart" Duration 5 minutes. Reduces casting time and recast of all blue magic. Increase attack, accuracy, magic attack and magic accuracy. Enhances monster correlation. Blue magic deals increased damage. Allows access to ultimate blue magic. (spells exclusive to certain HNM's). Gains access to all learned blue magic spells and possible job traits white under the effect.

SMN "Grand Summon" Duration 5 minutes. Allows summoner to call forth an avatar and 2 corresponding elemental spirits. (One buffs/heals the avatar, the other attacks.) Avatars are enhanced receiving stat boosts, reduced delay and enspells. Blood pact timers are reduced. Casting time for spirits is greatly reduced and they receive HP, MP, defense and magic defense bonuses. Elemental spirits gain access to all spells of their element. Both spirits and avatar are healed by the corresponding elemental magic. Perpetuation cost reduced to 0. While under the effect of Avatar's favor, all alliance members and pets receive enhanced versions of the favor and the avatar receives no penalty. (Side note: the penalties should be removed permanently and the avatars should receive the effect in my opinion.)

SCH "Absolute Knowledge" Duration 5 minutes. Enhances all magical skills to A and provides Fast Cast, Magic Attack Bonus and Magic Defense Bonus Job Traits (tier IV). Stratagem effects remain active but can be toggled. Gains access to Crimson Grimoire spells. Enhances stratagems are as follows:
Accession - Alliance wide area of effect. Usable with additional spells.
Manifestation - Increase area of effect. Usable with additional spells.
Penury/Parsimony - 75% MP reduction
Celerity/Alacrity - 75% casting time/recast reduction
Rapture/Ebullience - Increases potency by 75/50%
Altruism/Tranquility/Equanimity/Focalization - Doubles merited effect
Perpetuance - Triples duration effect. Usable with additional spells.
Immanence - Increases skillchain damage. Grants Magic burst damage bonus to all party members.

Those are the jobs that I play! I think I thoroughly broke the game :) There are some usable bits in there I think hehe

i like the idea of over powered ja with 24hr+ recasts that cant be reset by items or wild card

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Originally Posted by Sasaraixx

I'll take a stab as well!

First, I agree with others that I would like to see some tweeks to our existing 2hr abilities first. Some jobs like BLU and SCH could use a little work. Lowering the timer to 1 hour would also be a plus.

Now for the new abilities! I would place them on a 48 or 72 hour timer.

WHM "Divine Blessing" - Duration: 5 minutes. Increase potency and duration of all Cure and Regen spells. Regen spells receive additional Refresh effect. Curaga and Erase spells effect all PC's. Grants the Pax effect. Allows Erase to remove multiple ailments and new debuffs, including amnesia and weakness. Esuna removes debuffs regardless of whether the WHM also has them. All status removal spells become area of effect. Raise spells becomes area of effect. Greatly enhances all Job Traits and Abilities. White Mage receives the benefits of both Afflatus: Misery and Afflatus: Solace. White mage learns the "Reflect" spell - reflects one magical spell on targeted party member.

RDM "Estoqueur's Fury" - Duration 5 minutes. Increase potency and duration of all Enhancing and Enfeebling magic. Enhancing magic skill increased to A+. Increases sword skill to A+ and increases accuracy, attack and lowers delay. Enspells receive additional effects: Mag Atk down, Eva down, Def. Down, Acc down, Mag Def Down, Attack down and lower resistance to corresponding element. Enspell damage is also increased. Red Mage learns "Death" - instantly KO's a single foe when successful. Ineffective against Undead.

BLM "Mage's Wrath" - Duration 5 minutes. Doubles magic attack and accuracy of all elemental magic spells. Grants Mana Wall effect for the duration. Increases duration/potency of all dark magic (including stun). Greatly enhances all job traits. While under effect, occasionally converts a portion of magical damage into MP. Occasionally converts damage taken into MP. Learns the spell "Death Spikes" Physical damage taken: deals darkness damage and occasionally inflicts "Doom"

BLU "Azure Heart" Duration 5 minutes. Reduces casting time and recast of all blue magic. Increase attack, accuracy, magic attack and magic accuracy. Enhances monster correlation. Blue magic deals increased damage. Allows access to ultimate blue magic. (spells exclusive to certain HNM's). Gains access to all learned blue magic spells and possible job traits white under the effect.

SMN "Grand Summon" Duration 5 minutes. Allows summoner to call forth an avatar and 2 corresponding elemental spirits. (One buffs/heals the avatar, the other attacks.) Avatars are enhanced receiving stat boosts, reduced delay and enspells. Blood pact timers are reduced. Casting time for spirits is greatly reduced and they receive HP, MP, defense and magic defense bonuses. Elemental spirits gain access to all spells of their element. Both spirits and avatar are healed by the corresponding elemental magic. Perpetuation cost reduced to 0. While under the effect of Avatar's favor, all alliance members and pets receive enhanced versions of the favor and the avatar receives no penalty. (Side note: the penalties should be removed permanently and the avatars should receive the effect in my opinion.)

SCH "Absolute Knowledge" Duration 5 minutes. Enhances all magical skills to A and provides Fast Cast, Magic Attack Bonus and Magic Defense Bonus Job Traits (tier IV). Stratagem effects remain active but can be toggled. Gains access to Crimson Grimoire spells. Enhances stratagems are as follows:
Accession - Alliance wide area of effect. Usable with additional spells.
Manifestation - Increase area of effect. Usable with additional spells.
Penury/Parsimony - 75% MP reduction
Celerity/Alacrity - 75% casting time/recast reduction
Rapture/Ebullience - Increases potency by 75/50%
Altruism/Tranquility/Equanimity/Focalization - Doubles merited effect
Perpetuance - Triples duration effect. Usable with additional spells.
Immanence - Increases skillchain damage. Grants Magic burst damage bonus to all party members.

Those are the jobs that I play! I think I thoroughly broke the game :) There are some usable bits in there I think hehe

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Yes I agree 2 hours should probably be reduced to 1 hour.

All the idea's I wrote are 72 hour abilities also we have same Idea for summoner. Page 5 I wrote that >.> so we think alike.

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Originally Posted by Zephrose

PLD - Savior - "Grabs the attention of All opposed enemies within range and negates all damage taken for a short time."

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That sound suspiciously like Invincible. Hate spike, damage mitigation. Yep. That's invincible.

im tellin ya Ultima for bm and meteor for rdm

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Originally Posted by Shadobi

Yes I agree 2 hours should probably be reduced to 1 hour.

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Don't you think all the Revitalizers and Refresh chests we get in the only existing end-game (Abyssea) we have is enough? :P

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Originally Posted by Ramsos

Would basically turn you into "god" for a set period of time.

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Don't you think Brews are enough? Now you want a god-ability?

If they're going to add new two-hour abilities, why not just make old two-hour abilities meritable, it should be something much more conservative.

Benediction recovers 10% of your MP with 1 merit, meritable upto 5 times, recovering 50% of your MP.

Chainspell reduces the MP cost of spells by 5%, meritable upto 5 spells with a total reduction of 25% per spell.

Manafont - 3% fastcast, 5 merits, total of 15%

Soulvoice allowing a third song for it's duration

Eagle eye shot firing twice instead of once, then attack bonuses for each additional merit

Just some basic examples that aren't too over-powered, but would add something good to already powerful abilities.

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Originally Posted by Alkalinehoe

Lol, infinite kicks? I like that.

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Thought you might xD

[QUOTE=Dazusu;70360]Don't you think all the Revitalizers and Refresh chests we get in the only existing end-game (Abyssea) we have is enough? :P



What you can never have enough... I want more!!!!

Dancer: "Deadly Glide" Grants a 100% Parry and Riposte and Haste for 2 minutes, allows full movement, reflects magic back to caster during the duration

Beastmaster: "Rage" Pet will Rage for 3 minutes (Delay 0 on attacks, all attacks do double damage [including critical hits], defense and evasion are doubled, and Sic/Ready interval is set to 0 but pet must have TP-ignores charges for Ready), unlike NM Rage at the expiration of Rage the pet drops dead.

Puppetmaster "Guipetto's Mastery" Automaton gains the 2-hour of the job they emulate (Valoredge Head "Invincible", Spiritreaver "Manafont", Soulsoother "Benediction", Sharpshot "Eagleeye Shot" [but please enhance this, EES stopped being viable some levels ago], Harlequin "Hundred Fists" [Harlequin doesn't really have a particular job to emulate]). Either that or have the Auto pull a Whale out and club their enemy (ala Hancock).

Bard "Banshee Wail" In a Colassal radius instantly inflicts Doom or Terror (random chance of either) for 10 ticks of the game clock on all targets in range (enemies can remove if they have Cursna or Erase abilities), Hate generation equal to Benediction, enemies become immune to sleep during the countdown timer, Light-based.

Thief "Coup de Grace'" Identical to Throat Stab, can miss but does Stack with SA, TA, and Assassin (no increase in damage, just ACC).

Ranger "Called Shot" Allows a ranger to attempt a shot that wounds with normal accuracy-Sharpshot cannot be used-(inflicts a specific Permanent effect on target [if hate is lost and mob regens to full or depops to respawn the effect is removed once 100% is reached, but no other abilities can clear the effect]. Desired effect must be chosen before shooting. Available effects are:
a. "Nail" Target is unable to move or turn to defend itself (but can strike as per their normal behavior so those that can Attack behind/beside themselves may still do so)-flight will also be disabled, but shot can only be fired while grounded
b. "Pin" Hits an aggressive limb, impairs a mob's accuracy -25% and no multiple hits except TP moves will process
c. "Gut Shot" Delivers a painfull blow that causes DoT (20/tic, can be resisted) and 25% spell interruption.
d. "Crippling Strike" Wounds a movement limb, acts like Gravity
e. "One-Shot" Shot to a vital organ, inflicting Death, may be resisted as the Dark Knight attacks of the same name, undead immune; all of these abilities create massive hate on the Ranger whether they succeed or fail, analogous to Invincible

Dark Knight "Menace" While Dark has hate all attacks (physical and Magical) inflict a 10 second Terror effect on the target, Duration 5 minutes.

Paladin "Rightous Wrath" Duration 2 minutes Paladin immediately gets full hate on target and cannot lose for the duration, during the effect all paladin atacks (physical and magical) ignore target defense/resistance.

I have an idea!

How about all jobs get a new ability called "Broken game"... because that is what would happen if any of these ridiculous suggestions were implemented.