Feedback regarding the measures taken to the blacklist functionality in 7.3

SE, please rethink the decisions made for the blacklist/mutelist changes in 7.3.
I personally dont want to see the inappropriate shoutspam in all major ingame cities again after spending months filling my mute list with club ad spammers.

If not, at least update your ToS and do something against the inappropriate content advertised in shout chat.
Community created content counts towards the age restriction rating in most countries.
Nightclub prostitution roleplay and a age restriction of 12 in my country doesnt really fit together.

wait what change? don't tell me I have to reblock all the spammer again -_- and in here it's 16 but I do agree that well venues are a problem for obvious reason. yet they do nothing it's liken oddimg they also know they do that but let it go because they know if they act the game would straight up die to

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Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails

wait what change? don't tell me I have to reblock all the spammer again -_- and in here it's 16 but I do agree that well venues are a problem for obvious reason. yet they do nothing it's liken oddimg they also know they do that but let it go because they know if they act the game would straight up die to

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Blacklist will be pretty much unchanged for the most part. The mute list will be reset and on a per-character basis instead of accountwide.

https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...22bcf52d900702

I think it's being reset primarily because of the comments feature which could potentially allow people to still identify alts, or at least that is their belief.

I can't relate because I simply don't hang out in Limsa or pay attention to adverts. You can most likely find some common keywords and block those via term filter though.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I think it's being reset primarily because of the comments feature which could potentially allow people to still identify alts, or at least that is their belief.

I can't relate because I simply don't hang out in Limsa or pay attention to adverts. You can most likely find some common keywords and block those via term filter though.

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Is it really worth reseting everyones mutelist because of some snowflakes wanting to keep their creepy double life in an fantasy mmorpg? I dont get it.
The half-baked term filter is by far not good enough to filter out all the cringe adverts.

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

Is it really worth reseting everyones mutelist because of some snowflakes wanting to keep their creepy double life in an fantasy mmorpg? I dont get it.
The half-baked term filter is by far not good enough to filter out all the cringe adverts.

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Yes its worth it. But you should blame Square for their incompetence to introduce the new blacklist how they did which results in such a mess.

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

Is it really worth reseting everyones mutelist because of some snowflakes wanting to keep their creepy double life in an fantasy mmorpg? I dont get it.
The half-baked term filter is by far not good enough to filter out all the cringe adverts.

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Yes it, you're just far too apathetic to understand why it's a stupid choice to allow this to persist in the first place.

That being said, this is entirely on the developers for doing an insufficient job that is barely worth the effort of someone doing a Level 3 diploma in IT. It's definitely more than just "Some snowflakes wanting to keep their creepy double life."

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

Is it really worth reseting everyones mutelist because of some snowflakes wanting to keep their creepy double life in an fantasy mmorpg?

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You don't have kids, do you?

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Originally Posted by MaikoRaines

You don't have kids, do you?

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Maybe he is the kid :p He said up there "I'm 12 and my country doesn't want me to see shout chat in Limsa" or something I forget exactly what he said

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

Is it really worth reseting everyones mutelist because of some snowflakes wanting to keep their creepy double life in an fantasy mmorpg? I dont get it.
The half-baked term filter is by far not good enough to filter out all the cringe adverts.

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I don't RP, never will, but I have to ask you, how is this the players' fault? Why blame the players when Square made it like this?

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Originally Posted by PaulusHamsteru

I don't RP, never will, but I have to ask you, how is this the players' fault? Why blame the players when Square made it like this?

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Where did I say its the players fault? The problem is that there is a hand full of people, a minority that takes their In-game Identity way too serious. Acting like its their IRL or something like that. Most players dont really care if another person can see a connection between the main- and altcharacter. (Maybe not here on the forum because here we are complaining about gearsets while also calling the dev's racist for it). That has nothing to do with being apathetic. No personal data got leaked because of the problems with the blacklist.
Im not trying to excuse the mistake SE did. It sucks that this even happened but a 2nd or 3rd reset is imo too much. At some point the playerbase has to let go and accept it.

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Originally Posted by MaikoRaines

You don't have kids, do you?

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Has nothing to do with having kids or not.

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Originally Posted by All_Nonsense

Maybe he is the kid :p He said up there "I'm 12 and my country doesn't want me to see shout chat in Limsa" or something I forget exactly what he said

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I think the only kid around here is you. The nonsense you post under every thread is worrying. Please seek help.

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

Has nothing to do with having kids or not.

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Plenty to do with it.

Imagine your underage child playing a game (FINAL FANTASY XIV is rated T for Teen by the ESRB with Alcohol Reference, Animated Blood, Language, Suggestive Themes, and Violence.) and they get a shout promoting an ERP 18+ Club/Party House in game, only to go to one of those places and get bombarded with advertisements to questionable websites for services in a suggestive nature.

Better yet, imagine being the adult trying to pick up an underage teen's character. Or the adult promoting it in a /shout in a main city.

I have no problems with peoples lifestyles, but FFS find another way to promote it that isn't in-game. I have a big problem with potential minor exploitation.

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

I think the only kid around here is you. The nonsense you post under every thread is worrying. Please seek help.

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Not considering how a child can be exposed to sexual content in a T-Rated game in itself is wild. Go Find Counselling.

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Originally Posted by MaikoRaines

Plenty to do with it.

Imagine your underage child playing a game (FINAL FANTASY XIV is rated T for Teen by the ESRB with Alcohol Reference, Animated Blood, Language, Suggestive Themes, and Violence.) and they get a shout promoting an ERP 18+ Club/Party House in game, only to go to one of those places and get bombarded with advertisements to questionable websites for services in a suggestive nature.

Better yet, imagine being the adult trying to pick up an underage teen's character. Or the adult promoting it in a /shout in a main city.

I have no problems with peoples lifestyles, but FFS find another way to promote it that isn't in-game. I have a big problem with potential minor exploitation.





Not considering how a child can be exposed to sexual content in a T-Rated game in itself is wild. Go Find Counselling.

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Then you misunderstood me I think.
I'm against the erp adverts and I want SE to take actions against it especially now that everyones Mute-List will be reset.
+18 Adverts shouldnt be allowed in any way imo and people participating in that kind of roleplay should instead advertise it on third party websites, discord servers ect.
Unfortunately the Entertainment Software Rating Board is only for NA and sadly if im not mistaken the only age rating company that doesnt rate community created content like the erp nightclubs.

I opened a thread about this half a year ago but it ended up in it felt like 90% of the people defending those adverts and making fun of me for thinking it shouldnt be allowed in a 12+ rated game. https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...s-this-allowed

The only major issue I have with the mute list is that there are more limitations than degens advertising this crap.

Okay - I've got one foot on board this rocking boat.

From your post, lets address this poster:

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Originally Posted by Bonoki

I see where you're coming from, OP, but this slides through the ToS because it falls under "community building." There’s no rule outright banning the use of "18+," and there likely never will be—after all, even statics use that label. Unless it’s classified as discrimination, it’s here to stay. As for NSFW, it doesn’t automatically mean nudity or sex, which is precisely why it continues to slip through the cracks. Not all forms of NSFW are ToS violating. Even if SE did ban those specific terms, those posters would find other words to circumvent the rules.

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This poster is right - and wrong.

There are moderators within the game that can probably put a stop to this crap. However, unless an actual crime of exposure is being reported by some kids parent, they won't lift a finger.

That said, these groups are openly advertising themselves as NSFW/18+ which does go against the ESRB/PEGI ratings. So technically GM's and moderators can intervene as it is against their standard ratings and does break a rule or three.

I get/am with you on the subject, and honestly I don't really care about the degen community. They do need to be policed within the "Community building" part of the game and need to find their own method of advertising outside of it.

It's a start (of sorts)

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

because of some snowflakes wanting to keep their creepy double life in an fantasy mmorpg? I dont get it.

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I envy your ignorance.

I look forward to the changes once again being a homebrew obfuscation wihich is defeated in under a day.
God forbid they have to spend an extra 1 cent a month to check if a player is on another players blacklist.

The conversation here has moved on but tbh I'd like to hear why reworking the blacklist/mutelist again means client-side data gets deleted. There's likely a good reason but still, I'd appreciate if they were to have explained it.

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

I think the only kid around here is you. The nonsense you post under every thread is worrying. Please seek help.

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I quote one thing you said and you have a crisis on the forums. Group therapy together then?