When beta comes...

Do you think Square will be as secretive as they were in beta for v1?

Do you think that will only be for the first few beta's and then maybe allow coverage when it comes to open beta? Or simply keep a lid on it until v2 launches?

I would hope they wouldn't lock all of their info for display...I mean, getting interest in the game should be one of the top priorities. And I notice when big-time youtubers cover mmo's in beta, it helps with hype.

I apologize if this has been covered. If it has, I'll more than willingly accept a lock and redirection to the thread that contains this information.

i haven't seen it come up personally...
Given all of the scepticism surrounding this game,
i think that only real gameplay from real players ... the beta ... can save it.
The more fan videos and reaction, the better.
So i hope it's not secretive, but even in the original beta, plenty of vids leaked anyway.

Well, one of the main reasons I'm asking is because IF I am able to play beta, I would like to make a few videos. But I do not wish to break TOS...I'm sure if it's not allowed, beta players will be informed...I'm just very curious XD

They'll ask people to keep it a secret.

People will make the following face.

http://kng12.files.wordpress.com/201...la-d3dwein.png

Then a flood of alpha/beta screens and videos will be up on youtube.

Though, I think Yoshi will be more open minded about this than Tanaka.

I'm still waiting on this massive flood of info lasting "all summer long"

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Colino

I'm still waiting on this massive flood of info lasting "all summer long"

---

Oh boy, here we go again. Middle august FFS

That's what I don't get though they said they couldn't show the trailer at E3 cause of that reason yet they showed the trailer before this supposed "flood" anyway.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JouriStarz

That's what I don't get though they said they couldn't show the trailer at E3 cause of that reason yet they showed the trailer before this supposed "flood" anyway.

---

Then they released the trailer and we were all like;
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000...r_2_xlarge.png

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Colino

I'm still waiting on this massive flood of info lasting "all summer long"

---

We have to wait for the first flood to die down before we can get another.

http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/u...ngasianman.gif

First i want to know when the 1.0. servers are going to be offline and when we will be able to play beta 2.0. or anything..

i mean we have august now.. and the time table says that we get the new client in october. where is the information?
would be good to know how long we are able to play the old version. no?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Tonkra

First i want to know when the 1.0. servers are going to be offline and when we will be able to play beta 2.0. or anything..

i mean we have august now.. and the time table says that we get the new client in october. where is the information?
would be good to know how long we are able to play the old version. no?

---

Be patient.
they would tell us 1 week before the shut-down.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KiriA500

We have to wait for the first flood to die down before we can get another.

---

Will we need an SOS hotline for survivors?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi

Oh boy, here we go again. Middle august FFS

---

Well it's not my fault they claim all summer long when they really mean mid august.

Specifically towards the OP: It depends on how polished the Closed Beta is. Perhaps more to the point, it depends on if the Beta is going to be a true beta, in which case they should be taking it very seriously, secrecy and all, or a glorified demo, in which case, of course they should publicize the hell out of it.

Given FFXIV's global image, about the worst thing they could do right now is have videos of glitchy, unpolished gameplay floating about. On the other hand, if the Beta is merely lacking a few applications of finish, by all means I would imagine a very light NDA if any.

Of course, most people probably don't care for my opinion on the matter. I believe in the return of a strong beta that really tests core mechanics out of house. I think that that should be accomplished by a small, carefully chosen group at first, even if that means me and my fellow Legacy players don't get in on the first wave. But that is a discussion for another time.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by NefarioCall

Then they released the trailer and we were all like;
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000...r_2_xlarge.png

---

Its not even the Whole CGI They said they are releasing the Trailer at Gamescom.. weather that means the Full CGI or another Trailer is up in the air. Maybe that was just for the "Announcement"

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Colino

Will we need an SOS hotline for survivors?

---

If there are any! D:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Starlord

Its not even the Whole CGI They said they are releasing the Trailer at Gamescom.. weather that means the Full CGI or another Trailer is up in the air. Maybe that was just for the "Announcement"

---

He said the Warrior Screenshot from the E3 press packet was from the trailer that was completed they wouldn't show due to spoilers and the like, so the trailer we got recently was indeed that trailer they were going to release "with the flood."

So it may be another trailer they're working on (gameplay), but that trailer isn't the one Yoshida said they had finished for awhile and didn't want to show (the one on FFXIV.com right now.)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Spy

Do you think Square will be as secretive as they were in beta for v1?

Do you think that will only be for the first few beta's and then maybe allow coverage when it comes to open beta? Or simply keep a lid on it until v2 launches?

I would hope they wouldn't lock all of their info for display...I mean, getting interest in the game should be one of the top priorities. And I notice when big-time youtubers cover mmo's in beta, it helps with hype.

I apologize if this has been covered. If it has, I'll more than willingly accept a lock and redirection to the thread that contains this information.

---

In an interview with Yoshida he mentioned that they would be staying pretty tight lipped because there were some things about 2.0 that he new would create controversy. I presume he meant in a negative way. I think they will probably keep it quite until open beta.

Quote:

---

Yoshida: [Zips his lips shut] We will definitely be adding more actions and abilities for the current jobs, especially because of the addition of the new PvP gameplay. That will require all new types of crowd-control,buffing and debuffing actions. We will tell you more about this system around when beta comes out.

---

I guess they will be releasing info when the beta comes out. Link to the interview I quoted.

Which according to the German Rep (I believe) is November, so we have quite a few months to wait.

It's so shady.

Nobody even knows what 2.0 will be like, and yet we are paying for the privilege of possibly wasting our time on a game that could be replaced in 3 months by a load of crap. Or a bigger load of crap, some might say.

They kinda have a responsibility to shed light on any "controversial" changes and features.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jennestia

Which according to the German Rep (I believe) is November, so we have quite a few months to wait.

---

Will get a Def. Answer at Gamescom I'm sure within Interviews etc :P.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Colino

I'm still waiting on this massive flood of info lasting "all summer long"

---

I'm with you!!!

Being kicked in the nuts repeatedly is far more enjoyable than the misleading timescales Yoshi-P and Co. provide us with :(

I'd hate to go round their house for dinner:-

Yoshi-P: Dinner will be served in 5minutes.
2hours later
Me: Where on earth is the bloody dinner ffs :(

Quote:

---

misleading timescales Yoshi-P

---

I'm sorry but after 1.19 They have been on*time. 1.18 and Below they were getting the hang of the ropes and the feeling of the game itself. If you got thrown into a very broken game and you had to fix it all along while of getting 2.0 Ready Would "you" be able to get things out "on-time". and if they didn't give a time frame people will still have a heart-attack over it....

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Blaize

Yoshi-P: Dinner will be served in 5minutes.
2hours later
Me: Where on earth is the bloody dinner ffs :(

---

Not 5 minutes, "soon".

Starlord, look at your Calendar. Summer Began officially June 21st, we're now @ Aug 6th, new info regarding 2.0 = What? Did I miss it? Am I Blind?!
They said all Summer long, even 1 Screenshot a week woulda kept to this instead we've been in 6weeks of silence and seemingly ignorance.

And I wont even get started on the road map Yoshi-P gave us, don't get me wrong I dont expect him to keep to the timeline, as realistically that would be dumb, however, ignoring the playerbase without so much as a "We're slightly delayed but are working hard on (Insert something) Here's a few pics for you to get excited about" or something similar. No we are left with pure Tanaka style silence and ignorance.

Before anyone QQ's I'm not slating Yoshi-P and what hes done for the game, but C'mon how hard is it to keep us informed on whats going on instead of leaving us in the dark?!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by bobbygunz

yet we are paying for the privilege of possibly wasting our time on a game that could be replaced in 3 months by a load of crap.

---

That's funny, I thought I was paying to play a game that brings me enjoyment now.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Blaize

Starlord, look at your Calendar. Summer Began officially June 21st, we're now @ Aug 6th, new info regarding 2.0 = What? Did I miss it? Am I Blind?!
They said all Summer long, even 1 Screenshot a week woulda kept to this instead we've been in 6weeks of silence and seemingly ignorance.

And I wont even get started on the road map Yoshi-P gave us, don't get me wrong I dont expect him to keep to the timeline, as realistically that would be dumb, however, ignoring the playerbase without so much as a "We're slightly delayed but are working hard on (Insert something) Here's a few pics for you to get excited about" or something similar. No we are left with pure Tanaka style silence and ignorance.

Before anyone QQ's I'm not slating Yoshi-P and what hes done for the game, but C'mon how hard is it to keep us informed on whats going on instead of leaving us in the dark?!

---

He Already told us that we get the " Flood" At Gamescom This " All Summer long" thing came from a Rep not from Yoshi-P. You get your "Information" Next Week. If you don't get your infomation then then you can QQ like a baby all you want.

Edit: also The New Website that Launched on the 26th has A Trailer and Quite a few Information that I didn't know about, and New Ul'dah Concept Art.. that's News to me. and this First Emperor Dude, Def new.

Edit #2: Also the New Galka Screenshot that we saw Last Week on the RPG Interview Thread

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...BORN-INTERVIEW

There's Enough Info/Screenshot to last us till Gamescom.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pyretta_Blaze

That's funny, I thought I was paying to play a game that brings me enjoyment now.

---

But imagine if you dont like 2.0, then ... well basically they just killed your character. All MMOs come to an end eventually, but most people wouldn't play them if the developers effectively deleted your characters every 3 months, or deleted the game entirely.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by bobbygunz

But imagine if you dont like 2.0, then ... well basically they just killed your character. All MMOs come to an end eventually, but most people wouldn't play them if the developers effectively deleted your characters every 3 months, or deleted the game entirely.

---

If you don't like 2.0 you simply don't like it and won't play it -- SE didn't kill anything. You're paying to play now because you want to, you're not obliged to.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jennestia

If you don't like 2.0 you simply don't like it and won't play it -- SE didn't kill anything. You're paying to play now because you want to, you're not obliged to.

---

you're paying just to use the forums, if your characters are anything to judge by (so youre not exactly one to talk).

Anyways, the point is players will play MMOs with the promise of some degree of longevity. If the developers decide to make a huge upheaval of the gameworld, and not explain what theyre changing, then it's sort of rude. Theyre probably allowed too, sure. It's just shady, that's all.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jennestia

If you don't like 2.0 you simply don't like it and won't play it -- SE didn't kill anything. You're paying to play now because you want to, you're not obliged to.

---

Haven't seen you in a while, I missed you Jennestia lol. Welcome back!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DeadRiser

Haven't seen you in a while, I missed you Jennestia lol. Welcome back!

---

Lol thank you =P I've been here, I just haven't posted in a bit, let my niece play around mainly.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jennestia

Lol thank you =P I've been here, I just haven't posted in a bit, let my niece play around mainly.

---

You haven't missed much... These are the XIV forums after all lol.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by bobbygunz

you're paying just to use the forums, if your characters are anything to judge by (so youre not exactly one to talk).

Anyways, the point is players will play MMOs with the promise of some degree of longevity. If the developers decide to make a huge upheaval of the gameworld, and not explain what theyre changing, then it's sort of rude. Theyre probably allowed too, sure. It's just shady, that's all.

---

They have explained what they're changing, just not every little detail. They've given us information about the general types of changes we're getting. Some of it has been more specific than others but we still have a decent idea of what is changing on a larger scale. We were told about this huge upheaval of the gameworld in October, which was released with documents detailing most of the broader changes.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Spy

Do you think Square will be as secretive as they were in beta for v1?

Do you think that will only be for the first few beta's and then maybe allow coverage when it comes to open beta? Or simply keep a lid on it until v2 launches?

I would hope they wouldn't lock all of their info for display...I mean, getting interest in the game should be one of the top priorities. And I notice when big-time youtubers cover mmo's in beta, it helps with hype.

I apologize if this has been covered. If it has, I'll more than willingly accept a lock and redirection to the thread that contains this information.

---

No. They've been considerably more open than in the past while developing 2.0, I see no evidence it will get worse again.

To be honest with you I had a lot of fun in the 1.0 beta testings. I will miss a few things about this engine as well as a few spots in the world. With this new beta coming out I'm sure they will tell us not to leak it, but people will do it anyways.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi

Oh boy, here we go again. Middle august FFS

---

School has started back up in the states. that means for most, Summer is over, if not the actual season then the feeling of it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Eclipse

School has started back up in the states. that means for most, Summer is over, if not the actual season then the feeling of it.

---

Summer seems to have a lot of meaning to it, It will come when it comes ( which is Gamescom).. People need to stop stressing of this -.-. " All Summer long" "Coming in August" Whatever, I only listen to what comes out of Yoshida's Mouth ( Which is coming in August/Gamescom). We know they are showing off Gameplay there..that along would be enough information, But I know its going to be way more than that.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Starlord

Summer seems to have a lot of meaning to it, It will come when it comes ( which is Gamescom).. People need to stop stressing of this -.-. " All Summer long" "Coming in August" Whatever, I only listen to what comes out of Yoshida's Mouth ( Which is coming in August/Gamescom). We know they are showing off Gameplay there..that along would be enough information, But I know its going to be way more than that.

---

"All Summer Long" came from Yoshida, the reps just relayed that message. In hindsight if you look at what we got from E3 to now, it's basically being pushed out "all summer long" -- however I think most people harbor an issue with the fact SE is waiting to give everyone what they want -- solid information at a steady pace.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jennestia

"All Summer Long" came from Yoshida, the reps just relayed that message. In hindsight if you look at what we got from E3 to now, it's basically being pushed out "all summer long" -- however I think most people harbor an issue with the fact SE is waiting to give everyone what they want -- solid information at a steady pace.

---

I think " All Summer Long" got taken too literally, I think they were just saying that to just get people to relax that information is coming soon in the Summer time. If it comes in small waves in the summer time, or If it comes in one big glump in the Summertime. It all equals to the same information at the time Gamescom comes.

Also, the Website has quite a few information on there as well that I personally didn't know before, also New Concept Art of Ul'dah.

Also, Welcome back Jennestia! :)

We will probably see a nda for both alpha and closed beta phases. It's standard operating procedure, they want to keep a lid on what info gets out to the public during that time.


that being said there will most likely be some interweb hero's who break it. I think every one remembers the Pookiepoo incident from alpha test #1.