FFXIV 2.0. for Xbox360 or even Wii U?

Im wondering if SE plans to release it also for Xbox360 or even WiiU when 2.0. is considered as being "successful".

I mean the Wii U should be great for an MMorpg... you have the same buttons/joysticks as for the PS3... but you also have a touchscreen, which should be great for chatting or for drag and drop you items within your inventory or even selecting targets. isnt it?
From the hardware its almost the same or even just a little more powerul.

but maybe its too difficult to programm an extra WiiU version? dont know.
what would you think of a Wii U version?

i mean SE would release FFXIV on one of the "next gen" consoles ;)

It seems..

Wii finally caught up to U. In current gen consoles.

360 probly wont get it, but then again the xbox is gonna get a new system eventualy here

wii u may or may not be powerful enough? and imo, probly not the best audience to market too, nintendo doesnt attract the hardcore gamers who are into the mmo style games as much as the other systems do

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

360 probly wont get it, but then again the xbox is gonna get a new system eventualy here

wii u may or may not be powerful enough? and imo, probly not the best audience to market too, nintendo doesnt attract the hardcore gamers who are into the mmo style games as much as the other systems do

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well the Wii U has slightly more power than the PS3.
i mean they also made batman arkham asylum, assassins creed etc. for the wii U in real(!) full hd (not like the PS3) in slightly better graphics than the ps3. so i think there is slightly better hardware in it.

well nintendo attracts the mass with his consoles.. and we'll have to see what kind of clientele the wii U does attract. there are many core games (even horror) for the release.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

360 probly wont get it, but then again the xbox is gonna get a new system eventualy here

wii u may or may not be powerful enough? and imo, probly not the best audience to market too, nintendo doesnt attract the hardcore gamers who are into the mmo style games as much as the other systems do

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wii u is definitly aiming for more hardcore people going from e3 presentation. and ya, its got more power than the ps3 so no reason it cannot be ported to it.

I personally think xbox would be best though with the smart screen technology, you could likely customize that alot more than the wii u gamepad, so you are on a more equal footing to people who have customized the pc version.

I am for the Wii U getting a port but 360 wont get a port due to the fact they want players to HAVE TO pay for gold sub.

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Originally Posted by Rydia

I am for the Wii U getting a port but 360 wont get a port due to the fact they want players to HAVE TO pay for gold sub.

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ya thats the hurdle. SE eventually managed to win them over for FFXI, so I am still hopeing.

The rumors I heard about FFXI was that MS used it as an advertising tool. Now, they don't need to and want to keep their system closed.

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Originally Posted by Andrien

It seems..

Wii finally caught up to U. In current gen consoles.

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Anyways more to point Yoshida has said in multiple interview they will be looking into other systems after they get the PS3 version up and running. I wouldn't put them out of the question but we will probably be waiting for 720-PS4 until SE decides to persue more avenues for FFXIV.

I also doubt we will see FFXIV for a Microsoft system just due to SE seeming to have a rather rough time with XI and MS's oddball policies for XboxLive.

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Originally Posted by Rydia

I am for the Wii U getting a port but 360 wont get a port due to the fact they want players to HAVE TO pay for gold sub.

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This. M$ doesn't want SE billing those alreay paying sub to them so 360 won't have XIV (unless SE trick M$ and add XIV to POL...or turn FFXIV F2P when they add cash shop).

But Wii U can potentially run FFXIV and IMO the tablet controller would be magic for it gameplay-wise, going from software kb, map and actions to even some crazy remote-tablet interactive mechanics for stuff like gathering and crafting.

I support an Wii U version for sure...as soon as it's not just a porting. Would be lame FFXIV for Wii U using just the "hardcore gamepad" and a USB kb.

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Originally Posted by Lienn

This. M$ doesn't want SE billing those alreay paying sub to them so 360 won't have XIV (unless SE trick M$ and add XIV to POL...or turn FFXIV F2P when they add cash shop).

But Wii U can potentially run FFXIV and IMO the tablet controller would be magic for it gameplay-wise, going from software kb, map and actions to even some crazy remote-tablet interactive mechanics for stuff like gathering and crafting.

I support an Wii U version for sure...as soon as it's not just a porting. Would be lame FFXIV for Wii U using just the "hardcore gamepad" and a USB kb.

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It's not SE's fault Microsoft wont allow non gold subs to have anything online and SE doesn't like that idea.

It's also not SE's fault that Microsoft wants to keep the system closed, be it the networking info or keeping the game xbox only, not playable with other systems.

With adjustments in Microsoft's policies in 2007, I do not believe a FFXIV port for a Microsoft console will be likely.

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Originally Posted by ispano

The rumors I heard about FFXI was that MS used it as an advertising tool. Now, they don't need to and want to keep their system closed.

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They did want to prove MMOs can run on it, but every single update they try to force XI off of its system or exclude it from its "smart delete" system when you clean up your cache or HDD (which of course people blamed on SE, but it's very obviously MS fault as you can prove it very easily.)

XIV won't happen on 360 until MS stops being greedy, but we all have our Zunes don't we?

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don't really care about console MMO's too much limitation! I'll just stick with my PC's for online High Graphics gaming! Doubt FFXIV will go to XBOX unless M$ changes their closed system policy. WII U might happen but definitely wont happen until a few years after the PS3 release! This system may have the power and sold more units last gen (if u call the wii last gen), but the fact remains Nintendo is a casual market, and doubt it will sell well on the WII.

The problem will be the same as when FFXI hit X-box and PS2. The graphic's limitation of the systems (PS2 in this instance) prevented them from ever updating the graphics, the direct X system, and the resolution when there was plenty of opportunity to. Keeping in mind the older engine that XI ran on was not modular and therefore harder to tweak. This they noticed slowed their growth in the PC market as newer and next gen graphics cards came out, and prevented the release on PS3 (except on the backward compatible models).

I believe with FF14 that there is an effort to keep such flexibility alive, but with the PS3 graphics not yet topped out, and the 360's already peaked I don't believe they will port it to X-Box 360 at all. With the U's jump to current gen graphics It is not out of the realm of possibilities to see it get ported there. However the U's ultimate performance both offline and on have yet to be fully tested/realized, and then there is the issue with coding differences and the fact that Nintendo is focused on interactive motion games.

Best bet, /if/ X-Box get it, it will be on their next gen console. Wii-U /may/ see it but not i would say for at least a year.

That being said, with the new graphics engine being more modular than that of XI's, it is possible that they will follow the lead of several other long long running MMO's such as EQ and EVE, and create "Optional" graphics engine updates. The option to use better modeling, shaders, etc would allow computer users to continuously tweak their systems for the best visuals available while not making the console update beyond design limitations. This shift would allow them to span any and all consoles in that aspect. The only issue being that certain systems would have to accept lower resolution graphics and/or the machines would be working flat out.
So the possibilities are out there, but unless SE has had this in mind since the beginning of building the current engine it will take a long time to get it tweaked for porting.

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Originally Posted by DemonForest

The problem will be the same as when FFXI hit X-box and PS2. The graphic's limitation of the systems (PS2 in this instance) prevented them from ever updating the graphics

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1. Graphcis aren't everything and XIV already looks better than most of the MMOs on the market, Tera only looks good because it's bright and colorful, which is scientifically proven to catch most people's eyes first.
2. XIV's graphics are scalable with PC always being able to put out the best, this is the whole purpose of the new engine and client.

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I believe with FF14 that there is an effort to keep such flexibility alive, but with the PS3 graphics not yet topped out, and the 360's already peaked I don't believe they will port it to X-Box 360 at all.

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Remember: Graphics doesn't define the game unless that'sall it has going for it. Otherwise we would have never gotten past 8-bit era since the graphics were primitive so logically, developers shouldn't have produced games on consoles till the console makers got to the 16 bit+ era, no? If graphical capabilities is the determining factor of whether a game should exist somewhere then we have no need to keep producing games on current gen systems and wait for the 720/PS4/Wii-U.

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Originally Posted by Atheena

don't really care about console MMO's too much limitation! I'll just stick with my PC's for online High Graphics gaming! Doubt FFXIV will go to XBOX unless M$ changes their closed system policy. WII U might happen but definitely wont happen until a few years after the PS3 release! This system may have the power and sold more units last gen (if u call the wii last gen), but the fact remains Nintendo is a casual market, and doubt it will sell well on the WII.

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That's kinda why they let the more core 3rd parties have room this E3 to talk.

Unfortunately they only wanted to talk about their upgraded ports.

Also, change the stupid name Nintendo, you're only going to confuse people.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

1. Graphcis aren't everything and XIV already looks better than most of the MMOs on the market, Tera only looks good because it's bright and colorful, which is scientifically proven to catch most people's eyes first.
2. XIV's graphics are scalable with PC always being able to put out the best, this is the whole purpose of the new engine and client.



Remember: Graphics doesn't define the game unless that'sall it has going for it. Otherwise we would have never gotten past 8-bit era since the graphics were primitive so logically, developers shouldn't have produced games on consoles till the console makers got to the 16 bit+ era, no? If graphical capabilities is the determining factor of whether a game should exist somewhere then we have no need to keep producing games on current gen systems and wait for the 720/PS4/Wii-U.

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You miss the point. It is not about the graphics. It is about the limits of the machines. SE never upgraded XI (and thus port it to more systems) because of the limitations of the machines it was already on. The flat out stated that XI was not getting improvements because the PS2 was already maxed out. This limited 360 players to PS2 level of graphics and stalled the market growth. With FFXIV's new engine there is going to be every chance that they could port to other game consoles since it is scalable. However Unless they designed it to grow a certain way, AND the servers to accept players at different versions of the engine (ones designed for each of the various console) instead of cramming all players into the same bottle, there will be no ports. That was the point of my post. It is not about who has the shinnier system, but can it be CODED to be flexible enough that each system regardless of limitations be used.

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Originally Posted by DemonForest

You miss the point. It is not about the graphics. It is about the limits of the machines. SE never upgraded XI (and thus port it to more systems) because of the limitations of the machines it was already on. The flat out stated that XI was not getting improvements because the PS2 was already maxed out. This limited 360 players to PS2 level of graphics and stalled the market growth. With FFXIV's new engine there is going to be every chance that they could port to other game consoles since it is scalable. However Unless they designed it to grow a certain way, AND the servers to accept players at different versions of the engine (ones designed for each of the various console) instead of cramming all players into the same bottle, there will be no ports. That was the point of my post. It is not about who has the shinnier system, but can it be CODED to be flexible enough that each system regardless of limitations be used.

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This is going to change very soon tho. They already started developing FFXI upgrades that are accessible only to PC users so over time each console and PC will have different features, UI and graphics based on hardware performance.

I must say i'm dying to know what "Project XI" is all about...it will be presented at Vanafest (in 2 weeks) and i do would expect from graphic upgrades to PC version and PS3 porting (since PS2 is already at its limit and it was already discontinued in Japan) to even a real expansion.

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Originally Posted by Atheena

don't really care about console MMO's too much limitation! I'll just stick with my PC's for online High Graphics gaming! Doubt FFXIV will go to XBOX unless M$ changes their closed system policy. WII U might happen but definitely wont happen until a few years after the PS3 release! This system may have the power and sold more units last gen (if u call the wii last gen), but the fact remains Nintendo is a casual market, and doubt it will sell well on the WII.

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I hope you have your teeth prepared to bite your tongue, because you should never ever count out Nintendo. Staying on subject though, it is not quite clear if DQX is an MMO or something like Monster Hunter. I wonder if SE would want 2 MMO's (if DQX is) on the same console? In the case of XIV being on wiiU that is.

I guess it would be kind of neat to turn on a Wii U and see the "Miiverse" comments for FFXIV. All of them would say "Got dark matter again :sadface:"

By the time 2.0 is out and stable the nextxbox and PS4 will be around the corner probably.

Also, Microsoft is really restrictive with cross platform play on it's XBLive platform. (especially with PS3) Just ask Valve's Gabe Newell. Probably the reason an Xbox version is always mentioned, but they just say "we're in discussion with microsoft." Would probably be a hard sell now especially since it will be out for PS3 first.

They made an exception for XI probably because they were trying to capture more of the Japan market along with all the other stuff they were doing like Mistwalker, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, etc.

If 2.0 is a huge success, Microsoft might budge, (I mean seriously exclusivity nowadays is getting DLC a couple weeks earlier) but until then, there is a pretty low chance. If XIV was allowed, it would probably need to have it's own separate servers just for XBLive, which is the opposite of what SE wants with this game.

Why is everony just talking about the xbox? i think the Wii U has also the potential.

I'm still hoping they port FFXI to the Vita like Tanaka was hinting at awhile ago.

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Originally Posted by Scherwiz

Staying on subject though, it is not quite clear if DQX is an MMO or something like Monster Hunter.

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Have you played DQIX? From what I've heard it's similar to that; an extremely deep RPG with the option for multiplayer battles/exploration at virtually any point in the game. The only real difference that I've noticed is that the online functionality makes opportunities for multiplayer much more common, as well as trading and such.

So yeah, my money is on something like Monster Hunter. I doubt we'll see any real sizable updates for it, aside from disc-locked content being given out periodically. Which brings me to...

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

Why is everony just talking about the xbox? i think the Wii U has also the potential.

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It certainly is powerful enough. If PS3 will be able to run it then the Wii U will, that's just a fact. The real issue is going to be storage since, once again, Nintendo decided to go with a minor amount of flash memory as opposed to an actual hard drive. Granted that never really stopped SE from getting FFXI on PS2. An external hard drive is always possible.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

I'm still hoping they port FFXI to the Vita like Tanaka was hinting at awhile ago.

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the most useless stuff imho ;D i mean... a mmorpg like FFXI you cant play in the subway for just 10 minutes and say to your group "bye sorry i have to go now, i arrived at work" ;XD

i dont get the sense of making an MMorpg portable. its not something that you play in some minutes and pause it in between.

Wii U tablet is perfect fit for a MMO game.

Besides it probably wouldn't have much competition on WiiU.

IIRC, SE has bad relations with M$ because they wish to charge the XBox Live fee on top of the game's subscription fee, which isn't something that SE wants. I can't give you a source on this, but it's something I read a while ago, before FFXIV was even released...
As for WiiU, I feel that because of the differences in controls (with it's tabletesqe controller, among other things) it might be a pain for them to reprogram the game to be released on the console.

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Originally Posted by Amherst

It certainly is powerful enough. If PS3 will be able to run it then the Wii U will, that's just a fact. The real issue is going to be storage since, once again, Nintendo decided to go with a minor amount of flash memory as opposed to an actual hard drive. Granted that never really stopped SE from getting FFXI on PS2. An external hard drive is always possible.

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It's funny you mentioned DQX and then brought up the issue of low storage on the Wii/WiiU. As far as I understand it, you need some sort of external HD to play it. I'd assume the same would be true for XIV.

FFXIV on my iPhone please

I don't think controls would be a problem for Wii U. They actually have a "Classic" Wii U Pro Controller that looks like an Xbox 360 controller which works pretty well with this game currently. Well, except the right analog is in a different spot on the Wii U Pro Controller.

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Originally Posted by Eliseus

FFXIV on my iPhone please

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F that. We need a FFXIV ARG. ^_^b

Dragon Quest X is a full on MMO not a RPG with multiplayer. I really doubt SE to put 2 MMOs on the same console just to have them cannibalize each other. That would be an mistake. So far as we know SE is not planning a US/EU release for Dragon Quest X it looks to be JP only unless they announce something at a later time.