Matchmaking in diamond tier is bad

Basically the title. I have been stuck in diamond 5 for most of the series. The second I get 2 stars on the riser, I start matching in exclusively with crystal tier players (frequently matched against top 10 players in my data center!) and I get hard stomped. Then I fall down and get close to de ranking to platinum and I match against platinum players that I then stomp. Surely it can't be too difficult to match me in with only diamond players. I've tried matching at all times of the day and nothing seems to work.

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Originally Posted by YuiMizuhiki

Basically the title. I have been stuck in diamond 5 for most of the series. The second I get 2 stars on the riser, I start matching in exclusively with crystal tier players (frequently matched against top 10 players in my data center!) and I get hard stomped. Then I fall down and get close to de ranking to platinum and I match against platinum players that I then stomp. Surely it can't be too difficult to match me in with only diamond players. I've tried matching at all times of the day and nothing seems to work.

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in all reality i doubt they will fix any of that in ranked since alot of folk don't actually touch it save for the people who actually care for the ugly frames, i stopped at plat season one because i liked how ONE part of the frame and that was the backround.

Square doesn't care about CC and the game is just not made for meaningful pvp with how bad the server tick rates are. I wish it wasn't the case but with how they have treated the mode I wouldn't get my hopes up.

honestly crystal games are your way out of diamond, if you cant compete with them now then maybe diamond is your limit and theres nothing wrong with that.

SE cannot do anything about it if there are not enough diamonds or platinums in queue in the last week of the season :p It can only match you with crystals cause it is the most active bracket throughout a season

I got to diamond in 34 games and it went from 5 minute queues to 45+ minutes wait time as soon as I got to Platinum (on light) and the only active period from my experience is somewhere between 6 to 8pm and even during that supposed peak time there's moments where you'll get 5 or so games under 5 minutes then back to waiting for over 20 mins to one hour. Currently down with a flu to have the energy to keep up so gonna park here and wait for tomorrow for new season, hopefully it fixes match times.

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Originally Posted by Bureda

I got to diamond in 34 games and it went from 5 minute queues to 45+ minutes wait time as soon as I got to Platinum (on light) and the only active period from my experience is somewhere between 6 to 8pm and even during that supposed peak time there's moments where you'll get 5 or so games under 5 minutes then back to waiting for over 20 mins to one hour. Currently down with a flu to have the energy to keep up so gonna park here and wait for tomorrow for new season, hopefully it fixes match times.

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Most Light players went on to play their Alts on Chaos because the Queues pop there more regularly. You are left with handful of top 20 players that play at spesific times and then random assortment of Diamonds that might get the game rolling.

I got my top 100 early in the season and just bailed because I often waited longer for a match to pop than the actual time spent playing, besides the rewards are just pointless repeats so not many players will bother to play ranked once they have theirs.

Casual still pops regularly, but I have nothing but some of the grindiest achievements left, so I will probably just not touch it either until next Series hits. CC isn't good enough compared to most other PvP games to spend excessive amount of time on and even though the base is solid they can never make it good unless they go all the way to rework their netcode and that's not going to happen.

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Originally Posted by ThaCa

Most Light players went on to play their Alts on Chaos because the Queues pop there more regularly. You are left with handful of top 20 players that play at spesific times and then random assortment of Diamonds that might get the game rolling.

I got my top 100 early in the season and just bailed because I often waited longer for a match to pop than the actual time spent playing, besides the rewards are just pointless repeats so not many players will bother to play ranked once they have theirs.

Casual still pops regularly, but I have nothing but some of the grindiest achievements left, so I will probably just not touch it either until next Series hits. CC isn't good enough compared to most other PvP games to spend excessive amount of time on and even though the base is solid they can never make it good unless they go all the way to rework their netcode and that's not going to happen.

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Thanks for the info. Hopefully they sort the system so I can just have match making games on my main without needing to be extra specific or do some alt thing. Just want to que up and game.

As much as I was in favor of de-rankings, it definitely hurt the queues. Crystal queue times are really long now and whenever I do play its in unranked now.

yeah I gave up at diamond tbh lol. casual is way less stressful and I can grind the rest of the achievements there

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Originally Posted by Ransu

As much as I was in favor of de-rankings, it definitely hurt the queues. Crystal queue times are really long now and whenever I do play its in unranked now.

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Well, I called it months ago that this was going to happen so ppl got what they asked for.

i got diamond players on my team when i was Gold 1 XD now im plat on my alt, was only trying to get the dragon mount lol lucky me!

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Originally Posted by Osmond

Well, I called it months ago that this was going to happen so ppl got what they asked for.

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It is what it is. I made a similar statement back then as well that it could be an issue, but matches with crystal 0 players all over the place was pretty bad as well. A lot of matches felt worse than gold games. Of course they also put diamonds into crystal games now so the matchmaking didn't really get better lol.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

It is what it is. I made a similar statement back then as well that it could be an issue, but matches with crystal 0 players all over the place was pretty bad as well. A lot of matches felt worse than gold games. Of course they also put diamonds into crystal games now so the matchmaking didn't really get better lol.

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i feel like no one is really happy about or enjoying that change lol

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Originally Posted by YuiMizuhiki

Basically the title. I have been stuck in diamond 5 for most of the series. The second I get 2 stars on the riser, I start matching in exclusively with crystal tier players (frequently matched against top 10 players in my data center!) and I get hard stomped. Then I fall down and get close to de ranking to platinum and I match against platinum players that I then stomp. Surely it can't be too difficult to match me in with only diamond players. I've tried matching at all times of the day and nothing seems to work.

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If you think the matchmaking is bad up there, come back down to Bronze 3 and see how long you can put up with it before punching a hole in your PC.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

If you think the matchmaking is bad up there, come back down to Bronze 3 and see how long you can put up with it before punching a hole in your PC.

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Not long because you can carry matches till about gold or so.

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Originally Posted by Elfidan

Not long because you can carry matches till about gold or so.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

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I know your upset from the way you are typing, but why not ask any of the crystal players on here about it. It's a joke to get to gold.

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Originally Posted by Elfidan

I know your upset from the way you are typing, but why not ask any of the crystal players on here about it. It's a joke to get to gold.

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Look, you're not talking to someone who's played 2 games and quit. I've been trying since season 1. There's no "carrying"!
So please takes these narcissistic myths of "carrying" back to the Overwatch or League of Legends forums where they belong.

If you've been in bronze since season one, it's you.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

Look, you're not talking to someone who's played 2 games and quit. I've been trying since season 1. There's no "carrying"!
So please takes these narcissistic myths of "carrying" back to the Overwatch or League of Legends forums where they belong.

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You can absolutely carry through bronze and gold. How do you think people get to crystal? Carrying doesn't become difficult till you reach diamond and thats only because it mixes crystal players in the queue and the only crystal players still queueing right now are really the top 100.

You know I've really been trying hard not to fly off the handle and ignore people for petty reasons.
I'm proud of myself, I've done a good job of being more even tempered.

Still if your entire argument boils down to "You suck!", well then you have nothing to say that I ever need to hear again.

Everybody sucked once upon a time. We learned and adjusted. Don't let pride stifle your growth.

Being stuck in bronze for 3 seasons really does come down to the issue being you though. Its not a "you suck" thing, its just a simple fact. Record your matches and look at where you can improve and what you're doing wrong. There are absolutely times where a match is so bad you can't carry, but at the end of the day to climb ranks you have to be better than everyone else in the room.

When they reset everyone in season 3 down to bronze I was having a field day with how easy the matches were. People stand still and don't kite, they don't guard or use purify etc....if the matches don't feel easy to you in bronze then that simply means you need to change things to improve. Mindlessly slamming your head into the wall every time you queue isn't going to change things. You have to figure out what you're doing wrong.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

You know I've really been trying hard not to fly off the handle and ignore people for petty reasons.
I'm proud of myself, I've done a good job of being more even tempered.

Still if your entire argument boils down to "You suck!", well then you have nothing to say that I ever need to hear again.

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I don’t think people are trying to be rude. I’m sure you can get out of bronze but you are definitely doing something wrong atm if you’ve been stuck there just have to figure out what. it’s fine to admit that you made a mistake. i know someone else who is hard stuck bronze which is odd because they play other pvp games well and do hard content in ffxiv well, I really have no idea why they’re hard stuck but it happens I guess.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

If you think the matchmaking is bad up there, come back down to Bronze 3 and see how long you can put up with it before punching a hole in your PC.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

Look, you're not talking to someone who's played 2 games and quit. I've been trying since season 1. There's no "carrying"!
So please takes these narcissistic myths of "carrying" back to the Overwatch or League of Legends forums where they belong.

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Jamie... I'm not sure how to tell you this.

Discounting my previous Feast experience, I play since Season 1 of Crystalline Conflict.

Season 1, we all were trying the new format so less carrying was done. I got Crystal.
Season 2, I started maining specific jobs such as Dark Knight and Gunbreaker. I started Plat and got to Crystal.

Season 3, we all got put to Bronze 3. I climbed to Plat 1 carrying multiple Bronze games in the process by simply doing as much as I could.
In the same season, I changed servers from Odin to Alpha for a house - I started from Unranked. I climbed to Plat within two evenings of playing and ended in Diamond because I was bored.

Season 4 is now out, I had at least three matches in which it was Gold + 4x Bronze on each side, which I carried by focusing the enemy who had Gold, then going through the hoops and jumping each other player until it was a team wipe. I started at Gold 1, dropped to Gold 3 and I am now Diamond 5 again, within a single session.

You can 100% carry Bronze games if you have the skill required and are not playing jobs heavily reliant on how the team performs (Scholar for example, it amplifies the team mainly).

You cannot carry however if you lack various skill sets. Carrying means doing above average, so if you are doing average or below in your skill tier, then this is your skill tier until you say "f*** it" and train + learn from your mistakes. Ask people to help you by reviewing your games or giving you tips for the job you play.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

If you think the matchmaking is bad up there, come back down to Bronze 3 and see how long you can put up with it before punching a hole in your PC.

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People are just telling you you're bad, but I just want to advise to look at your own actions and min-max (since you can control those). See where you missed a good LB timing or your crowd control timings where on point.

Other advice I can give is: Always be casting! Make sure, doesn't matter on who, your abilities are always on cooldown and used on anyone in the objective.
The matchmaking is mostly luck based with a hint of MMR so don't feel down if you're having a bad spree.

Always be casting and always contest objective. Focus on those.

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Originally Posted by Bureda

People are just telling you you're bad, but I just want to advise to look at your own actions and min-max (since you can control those). See where you missed a good LB timing or your crowd control timings where on point.

Other advice I can give is: Always be casting! Make sure, doesn't matter on who, your abilities are always on cooldown and used on anyone in the objective.
The matchmaking is mostly luck based with a hint of MMR so don't feel down if you're having a bad spree.

Always be casting and always contest objective. Focus on those.

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Good advice, definitely can recommend this!

Also hi Bureda, hope I won't cause massive shenanigans once we meet in matches again^^

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

Good advice, definitely can recommend this!

Also hi Bureda, hope I won't cause massive shenanigans once we meet in matches again^^

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Hello! Oh definitely, see you on the battlefield! I'll be on later. :D