Would you still play FFXIV if SE forced Yoshida to add NFTs? Be honest.

Be honest, because I just feel as if that did in fact happen, there’d still be plenty of people playing ffxiv like nothing happened. Bad PR, but what matters is the subscriptions. I’m sure 80 - 90% of players would still stay.

I don’t support NFTs but let’s be real here.

He said this game's engine is not capable to do NFT stuff so, yeah. Dunno about the future tho :)

No.

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No wouldn’t even bother

That depends... would the NFTs affect the game that I play? If not, then i'd probably still play. If a company wants to get into idiotic trade practices and lose money, it's not my problem.

Edit: Don't think I wouldn't be vocal about their decision, I wouldn't support it at all.

As long as the game is good and isn't P2W then sure, why not?

I don't play any games with NFTs in them. Besides, I already have the Racing Chocobo Helm IRL, so I'm gucci. I'd just message a few people in game where to reach me on discord and then just stop playing

No.

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Nope, would drop it instantly. I refuse to support anything using NFTs.

I guess it depends on how they implemented them. If it was a totally optional cash shop item that is just a vanity thing and didn't effect gameplay. Sure why not, already plenty of cash shop items I don't own. If on the other hand it somehow became essential or highly desirable to gameplay then maybe not. Again, it would depend on how they do it. Like a housing deed as an NFT would probably make me rage quit :D

NFTs are a scourge on society. I cannot support them in any way.

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Be honest, because I just feel as if that did in fact happen, there’d still be plenty of people playing ffxiv like nothing happened. Bad PR, but what matters is the subscriptions. I’m sure 80 - 90% of players would still stay.

I don’t support NFTs but let’s be real here.

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Crypto has crashed and is a trend. They won't add it.

Can someone please explain in layman's terms, what a NFT is and how it would impact the game?

Pretend I'm old, like could be a grandfather to some of you yunguns old.

My understanding is a NFT is a virtual image of some sort and for the life of me can't fathom how they work or what their value is or how in the sam hill they would be in FFXIV.

Thank you!

Yeah if SE somehow put in NFTs in FFXIV I'd quit. I don't support that money laundering scam.

I'd probably stop playing. Adding NFTs would just confirm peoples suspicions about sqex direction

You asked too much when you requested honesty, OP. There have been countless who swore up and down they'd leave when MTX appeared in their game, but now it's seen as a part and parcel of modern games. I don't think NFTs will become as common at all in games, but let's be frank - if they were added there will be some noise, some unsubscribing, lots of media attention and bemoaning... and then everyone returns.

I'd stay if they added NFTs. Won't buy into them because I'd rather spend my time leveling than understanding how they work. I love the game, call me a consoomer or whatever. But I vote with my wallet by paying for the game and not for those PNGs. I don't have much money to throw around willy-nilly so I'd rather stay for a game with a steady stream of content than a one-and-done big purchase that I finish in 40 hours.

yes i will contiue to play.

Ye, why not? Idk if you understand what an NFT is? Your facebook said its bad?

Seriously? The NFT-thingy has only one practical purpose: scam. You can replace the word "NFT" with "crypto-scam" and you are always right. The same with the word "Web3".

But even if they introduce it, there is nothing practical to do with NFTs. NFTs will never have an impact to the game. I guess, the NFT case was for shareholders. So they can see, that the company does not live under a rock and they have the newest sh*t on their radar.


Cheers

just like everything else, if it doesn't affect me directly, I'm gucci

Can someone explain what NFTs are and why everyone hates them? If its just another form of ingame shop like in mobile games, i think i woudnt bother me.

wow a serious thread.

no i wouldnt play if the xiv team had anything to do with them. its a different story if se goes above them and just mints a trading card of yshtola for the se store, not much they can do about that.

I would still play. I'm just going to be realistic about that. Why quit? I'm not going to virtue signal by saying no.
There isn't another good game to get invested into and I'm not going to throw away 10 years' worth of sweat, tears, grinding, investment and payments over it. Sure, I hate supporting the subject but the injection of NFTs is beyond my control. Especially as more and more cooperation's normalize it into their products. Eventually you won't be able to dodge it. Then there's inflation and covid/money pox going on keeping people indoors. It's easier to just stick with the game I've already been loyal to then try and stress myself out looking for a new home.

Games has to be designed around that to work. It is not impossible to had it to FFXIV, but would require a lot of work and redesign.

If somehow it is added to FFXIV, it would depend on what is it. If it is skins and other cosmetic stuff I probably don't care as I don't care about mogstation items. If it is weapons, equipment, or any other advantage in game, that's a no no for me.

something like buy a ticket for fest to get minion /gear , or some garbage commercial for emote/mount , buy figurine to get minion thing ? i dont think and i wouldnt care . NFT is something what about people just talking and there is general hate even im not sure how it would look in reality in some big AA game .

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Can someone explain what NFTs are and why everyone hates them? If its just another form of ingame shop like in mobile games, i think i woudnt bother me.

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That's basically where I am at, and that was the impression I got when I looked up what they are. Just goes to show that I travel at a snail's pace while tech screams on ahead.

The acronym itself stands for 'Non-Fungible Token'. And when a guildmate explained to me what those are, I asked, "So basically this entire game is already like an NFT?" He laughed. But my lack of comprehension also stems from the RL stock and trade markets. I asked a friend about those too, and when he told me that the funds tied up in it aren't really used to buy anything, but rather it just kind of grows or diminishes depending on where the monkey's dart lands, I was like, "dude, this makes zero sense."

Another way I can sum this up is that we should probably just bask in our ignorance.

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Can someone please explain in layman's terms, what a NFT is and how it would impact the game?

Pretend I'm old, like could be a grandfather to some of you yunguns old.

My understanding is a NFT is a virtual image of some sort and for the life of me can't fathom how they work or what their value is or how in the sam hill they would be in FFXIV.

Thank you!

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NFT stands for Non-Fungible Token, and basically, NFTs use blockchain, the technology that makes cryptocurrency possible, to verify a digital asset. That way someone has the real/legitimate XYZ. So say someone created a hugely popular meme, they could try to make an NFT and sell it to make money. The buyer presumably wants to own a piece of internet history, or maybe they think since they now own it they can make money on merchandising it or whatnot since they are now the owner of it.

In terms of gaming, I think the concern is the pay-to-win scenario. I see the most natural fit with the mobile/freemium games. The card/character collecting games could probably easily add in a tier of NFT based cards/characters which they would sell for a very high amount of money. As for XIV, I'm guessing the most logical/least offensive application would be to make unique glamour that only one person or perhaps a handful could own. Which brings us to another point of NFTs there is usually only one of or a very few of any given NFT. No point in making something an NFT if their are unlimited copies of it available.

Nope

I'll quit if they add NFTs to this game

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Originally Posted by texas_boy

Can someone please explain in layman's terms, what a NFT is and how it would impact the game?

Pretend I'm old, like could be a grandfather to some of you yunguns old.

My understanding is a NFT is a virtual image of some sort and for the life of me can't fathom how they work or what their value is or how in the sam hill they would be in FFXIV.

Thank you!

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long explanation:
https://youtu.be/YQ_xWvX1n9g

shorter explanation
https://youtu.be/XwMjPWOailQ


the long explanation video is way more in depth and covers some of the nightmare scenarios that can emerge when NFTs are applied to gaming

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Can someone explain what NFTs are and why everyone hates them? If its just another form of ingame shop like in mobile games, i think i woudnt bother me.

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To really simplify here, it's like a code that gives you ownership of something that can be verified and prove that you're the owner ( again, oversimplifying ).
It has just become popular to hate them and to some extent it's justified because of how they've been handled thus far.
Mainly they've been used for scams and also selling stolen artwork or really lazy crap for hundreds of thousands.
When people think of NFT's now they think of morons who buy for an extreme amount of money a stolen art piece someone else took without the original artists consent or some really bad and even copy pasted with very very slight alteration pixel art.
Or even Tweets...
And yes anyone can just copy paste it, what you're buying is essentially an imaginary rights to something in those cases.

However I do think that sadly as per usual on the internet, there is absolutely zero nuance and people hyperfocus on the negative ways of application and the positives go under the radar.
They could be really nice when it comes to ownership licenses and identification digitally and reduce paperwork.
In the gaming sphere specifically I think an interesting use of them could be that you'd be able to buy a NFT that gave you ownership and then you could use this NFT to install and play the game from any store.
So if both Steam and Epic Games where part of this network then if you bought a game on Epic Games you'd buy or could choose to buy a NFT of it that you could also use on Steam.

It could also be used for more irl stuff like medical records and ownership of real physical stuff like cars to be able to conveniently and quickly confirm your ownership or identity.
It's just that it has thus far been used for dumb crap like some rich person ( or for the purpose of money laundring... ) '' buying '' a Tweet, like I dunno if this actually happen but someone buying imaginary rights to the first Tweet the founder of Twitter made for millions.
So it gives NFT's a really bad name and makes them seem like scams.

Edit: In the case of FFXIV one way it could work is that you'd buy a NFT for an item on the store and you'd be able to use it to re-add it to your account if you lost it without having to purchase it again ( and without the calmity salvager, I've never tried deleting it so I dunno if you even can tbh, just an example ).
But what people think and what probably would be true is that they'd start selling exclusives for ridiculous prices or like imaginary rights to artwork that everyone can already just copy paste.
NFT's in FFXIV could be a good and practical thing, but if you want to make money it's more profitable to do the scummy stuff which is probably what would happen.

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NFT stands for Non-Fungible Token, and basically, NFTs use blockchain, the technology that makes cryptocurrency possible, to verify a digital asset. That way someone has the real/legitimate XYZ. So say someone created a hugely popular meme, they could try to make an NFT and sell it to make money. The buyer presumably wants to own a piece of internet history, or maybe they think since they now own it they can make money on merchandising it or whatnot since they are now the owner of it.

In terms of gaming, I think the concern is the pay-to-win scenario. I see the most natural fit with the mobile/freemium games. The card/character collecting games could probably easily add in a tier of NFT based cards/characters which they would sell for a very high amount of money. As for XIV, I'm guessing the most logical/least offensive application would be to make unique glamour that only one person or perhaps a handful could own. Which brings us to another point of NFTs there is usually only one of or a very few of any given NFT. No point in making something an NFT if their are unlimited copies of it available.

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This is a good explanation of it too.
And yeah it'd probably be used for some really dumb crap.
It's unfortunate tho because there definitely is some legit potential if handled responsibly but that just isn't as profitable as quickly cashing in on a new trend...

....I don't know.

The big thing is whether I'll have to interface with the Blockchain in order to do what I want to do in this game. *That* will force me to quit.

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It could also be used for more irl stuff like medical records and ownership of real physical stuff like cars to be able to conveniently and quickly confirm your ownership or identity.

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lol no thanks
with the amount of high profile NFT thefts that occurring on a weekly basis attaching real world ownership to NFTs is an absolute joke

like most recently is the Seth Green fiasco where he was going to make a tv show featuring one of his NFTs which was then stolen so now he scrapped entire project because ownership rights could potentially become an issue if he went forward with the project

Would you keep eating Mcdonalds if they used orphan meat?

Be honest.

Another layer of corporate greed from SE in FFXIV? I'd pass and use it as my excuse to quit.

That being said, I don't think SE would get away with adding NFTs to FFXIV in its current state. I think it could be something that occurs in the future when FFXIV starts to fail and they need a way to continue monetizing it to support the company and pay off operating costs for the game.

NFT's bring nothing to the table that has not been done simpler, and more efficiently before. Blockchain has uses but in this case it's just another pyramid type scheme to pry money from a customer base. More speculative investments for get rich schemes that benefit very few. In addition, the amount of labour this would take to implement would probably be far beyond what the already strained team could handle. I believe the game would suffer irreparable damage to its reputation as well. The market has spoken, NFT's are not wanted by the general player base of most games, and those that have attempted the implementation have suffered dearly. All this doesn't even account for the security issues that have plagued the crypto market in general. One rule above all, "If it is online it is insecure".

(Edit: spelling, grammar)

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lol no thanks
with the amount of high profile NFT thefts that occurring on a weekly basis attaching real world ownership to NFTs is an absolute joke

like most recently is the Seth Green fiasco where he was going to make a tv show featuring one of his NFTs which was then stolen so now he scrapped entire project because ownership rights could potentially become an issue if he went forward with the project

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I am talking about potential for the future, it's still fairly recent technology.
I just think that it's sad that it's probably never going to go anywhere because of how people have abused them which has given NFT's a bad reputation.

NFT's isn't some inherently bad and evil thing, it's about how people use them.
But online it's a lot easier and gets more likes and retweets to always deal in extremes.
The more inflammatory you are the more of a reaction you're going to get and reactions is the internet currency ( often times translating into real currency ).
Much like how it's more profitable to use NFT's to scam people and sell really dumb crap at super high prices it's also more profitable to fearmonger about their existence altogether.

If NFTs were introduced as just cosmetic "look at me" thingies? I'd still play.

If NFTs were introduced and players were required to own at least one of them to progress to X dungeon / X raid? I'd leave. Locking content behind them is my line in the sand.

If SE wants to be questionable with their financial practices (lets face it, they've never been 100% smart in that regard) then let them. The moment it actively affects us is the moment we put our foot down.

Game's already on thin ice with me so hell no.

No. FFXIV is my main coping tool, but if it causes me to need a coping tool even more because I'm actively burning the planet down with my monthly sub... eh, not worth it.

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Would you keep eating Mcdonalds if they used orphan meat?

Be honest.

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Free range or caged?

Anyways, NFTs are meaningless to me, so yep, I'd keep playing.

I mean, if the latest slutglam on the mogstation were an NFT, instead of just a badge of having given SE an extra $15 ... what exactly would have changed?