Sea Wolves aren't bots

Today I changed my alt's clan from a Sea Wolf to a Hellsguard and changed her name because people thought I was a bot despite that I play nothing like a bot.

I feel slightly bitter about having to do that as I put a lot of thought into that name and was following Sea Wolf naming conventions. Those who knew me well enough laughed when I translated the name to them, but sadly too many people in the wider crowd called me a bot or treated me like a bot just because my name was unpronouncable to them. Even some of my own FC members who've not met my Roe before have jokingly commented on my Roe's name looking like a bot's name, but it's gone on for so long now that it's no longer funny and I knew I was eventually going to have to invest in a name change.

I've also seen the odd Sea Wolf player on my main character in parties and often heard people say "oh great we've got a bot in the party" and I've had to correct them that they're not a bot and are using a proper Roe name.

It saddens me there's too many people who judge players just because of a name and even more if that person is a new player who's just learning their job. Because of them there is now 1 less Sea Wolf femroe because I was tired of being mistreated and jested at my expense. I'll miss her she-hulk green skin but I won't miss the abuse I endured.

With all the weird names in this game, the only way I'd assume a character was a bot based on that is if you named it Mark Zuckerberg.

SE didn't think out those names very well. They really do look like bot names. But why call someone a bot, if they talk.

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Originally Posted by Moonlite

SE didn't think out those names very well. They really do look like bot names. But why call someone a bot, if they talk.

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They thought it out just fine. They're named using an archaic Germanic-themed word list. Like all the races are each named based on a different archaic real world language or culture.

If you take into account vowel shifts you can can even parse some of the names for their meanings without looking at the dictionary:

Ahldskyf .... ahld=old, skyf=ship
Rostnsthal .... rostn=rusty, sthal=steel
Bloefhis .... bloe=blue, fhis=fish
Rammbroes .... ramm=ram, broes=chest (via breast)

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Originally Posted by Rongway

They thought it out just fine. They're named using an archaic Germanic-themed word list. Like all the races are each named based on a different archaic real world language or culture.

If you take into account vowel shifts you can can even parse some of the names for their meanings without looking at the dictionary:

Ahldskyf .... ahld=old, skyf=ship
Rostnsthal .... rostn=rusty, sthal=steel
Bloefhis .... bloe=blue, fhis=fish
Rammbroes .... ramm=ram, broes=chest (via breast)

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I thought it came across slightly Welsh, especially when my surname was Ubylwyrnwyn. xD

Despite this the problem is too many people are ignorant of the lore and judge based on what they've known, and having known a lot of RMT bot names using random characters they immediately assume someone sporting a name that's difficult to pronounce must be a bot or an RMT. It's made playing my roe very unpleasant for me since I wanted an official roe name and when I came across that one and what it translated as I thought it was very amusing only to then be put down by randoms who don't know any better, and those randoms outnumbered the players who knew what it meant.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

They thought it out just fine. They're named using an archaic Germanic-themed word list. Like all the races are each named based on a different archaic real world language or culture.

If you take into account vowel shifts you can can even parse some of the names for their meanings without looking at the dictionary:

Ahldskyf .... ahld=old, skyf=ship
Rostnsthal .... rostn=rusty, sthal=steel
Bloefhis .... bloe=blue, fhis=fish
Rammbroes .... ramm=ram, broes=chest (via breast)

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You are missing the point. The game is played by modern people that interact with every day internet. When you think you are being too smart/smug it will probably backfire. Certain words from old languages do not mean the same. I bet if you showed those letter combinations to most people outside of MMOs they would probably think its a captcha.

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Originally Posted by Moonlite

I bet if you showed those letter combinations to most people outside of MMOs they would probably think its a captcha.

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We're not talking about people outside of MMOs. We're talking about people inside MMOs. Specifically this MMO. Which introduces you fairly early to at least a few characters with consonant clusters in their names that people aren't used to seeing on a daily basis. It's a fantastical setting. If a player playing this fantastical game is put off by encountering some fantastical names, that's not on the devs.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

We're not talking about people outside of MMOs. We're talking about people inside MMOs. Specifically this MMO. Which introduces you fairly early to at least a few characters with consonant clusters in their names that people aren't used to seeing on a daily basis. It's a fantastical setting. If a player playing this fantastical game is put off by encountering some fantastical names, that's not on the devs.

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I had a long post. But you will never understand. Keep playing with names people associate with bots. It sure made the OP happy.

Anyone who's remotely familiar with the Sea Wolf naming conventions won't mistake one for a bot because awkward as they sound there's still actual structure to their names.

I've personally never seen anyone make dumb remarks like what the TC experienced so I'm disinclined to think it's a common thing.

It's not hard to learn to recognise the Sea Wolf names as names. We encounter enough NPCs over the course of the story that people should be able to see the sort of names they have, even if you don't fully understand the logic behind them, so it's not like player names are the only ones in that format.

They're still pronouncable even if you have to take a moment to figure out the syllables.

Of course, some do look more overwhelming than others.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Anyone who's remotely familiar with the Sea Wolf naming conventions won't mistake one for a bot because awkward as they sound there's still actual structure to their names.

I've personally never seen anyone make dumb remarks like what the TC experienced so I'm disinclined to think it's a common thing.

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You've been lucky then. The last straw was when last night an FC member said outside the house "since when did [we] get a bot?" Before that I had been in a dungeon where a guy thought he was doing the game a favour by not rolling on the loot and waiting until it autopooled before immediately exiting the dungeon (I actually needed one of the items so I wasn't happy at being made to wait despite me having talked at the end of the dungeon and having performed admirably enough to have earned at least 1 commendation from the other players.)

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Originally Posted by geekgirl101

Today I changed my alt's clan from a Sea Wolf to a Hellsguard and changed her name because people thought I was a bot despite that I play nothing like a bot.

I feel slightly bitter about having to do that as I put a lot of thought into that name and was following Sea Wolf naming conventions. Those who knew me well enough laughed when I translated the name to them, but sadly too many people in the wider crowd called me a bot or treated me like a bot just because my name was unpronouncable to them. Even some of my own FC members who've not met my Roe before have jokingly commented on my Roe's name looking like a bot's name, but it's gone on for so long now that it's no longer funny and I knew I was eventually going to have to invest in a name change.

I've also seen the odd Sea Wolf player on my main character in parties and often heard people say "oh great we've got a bot in the party" and I've had to correct them that they're not a bot and are using a proper Roe name.

It saddens me there's too many people who judge players just because of a name and even more if that person is a new player who's just learning their job. Because of them there is now 1 less Sea Wolf femroe because I was tired of being mistreated and jested at my expense. I'll miss her she-hulk green skin but I won't miss the abuse I endured.

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I'm glad to hear that you have bot-like behaviours.

You just got troll'd, that's all. People like scapegoats, it allows them to annoy people so they can't see their own problem, a let off steam.

The internet is like the school playground, it's merciless, you shouldn't pay attention to the hallway noise of people you don't know, welcome to the net zoo.

Put the name that matters to you, don't worry about the trolls and then the general discussion channels, it's like a troll forum, it's not worth reading them, blacklist don't worry about it anymore, they're not going to be 200 per server anyway.

Ps: People can't pronounce your character's name because they don't know anything about FFXIV lore and miqo'te names.

Never seen anyone ever calling a Sea Wolf a bot, not at least through names.

I have seen at least 1 or 2 au ra healbots with non in game names in Syrcus Tower that's it so i imagine people are just messing with you.
Just enjoy your character, many Roe players (at least new) do end up sticking with sea wolf names, seen many in dungeons.

if i were a bot i wouldnt die to mechanics

Seeing someone from Balmung thinking a created naming system based off real world languages shouldn't be a thing or should be simplified does give a nice chuckle.

As a sea wolf I can confirm this. Beep Boop.

But it's probably because I got a custom name, and achievements you have to work a bit to get for glamour.

you should be glad anyone noticed your name, I usually don't pay attention people have too long names in this game

I feel ya OP as I had a similar situation.
I was so excited with my new name, getting into the whole Roegadyn language and all that but the moment I changed, I got all sorts of weird comments which was very disheartening. You put so much effort to finally come up with a lore-friendly name only to receive such feedback.

Out of frustration I actually deleted most of my Friend list (was always full after 8 years), thinking it would made me not be spotted by the "friend name color" only to find out, it's just your own side (oof)

Anyway, I was very close to change back but I was not having any of the negative feedback and sticked to it in regardless! While the ignore troll mode is harder than it sounds like sometimes, it's the only way to truly do what you want to do on the internet.

So I hope it won't discourage you to maybe try a Seawolf in the future again cause if you love Limsa Lominsa, you know how awesome they are ;)

I mean if your name is asdggjk or escrfvtbb im gonna assume your a bot or bought it from one. If it looks like someone smashed their face into a kb to get a name 99% its a bot. Better to assume its a bot and keep distance then get a ban because the STF thinks you are working with them.

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Originally Posted by geekgirl101

Today I changed my alt's clan from a Sea Wolf to a Hellsguard and changed her name because people thought I was a bot despite that I play nothing like a bot.

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This sucks big donkey tail, I agree. I've also got to give people a bit of pass since Welsh looks like gibberish to most people; Gwawriau (dawn) and Rhyfelwr (warrior) would look a little suspect to me if I didn't know better and/or saw it on a non-Roe. I'm sorry this happened to you!

At least it's not Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrob, a legitimate location name in Wales.

Wowo... didn't realize there were so many derps playing this game unable to parse Seawolves names from bot names.

I'd just make a macro tbh...
first comment about name, press macro
"I'm not a bot, this a lore friendly Seawolves' name I like that I came up with. Please don't press the issue further."
second comment
Report for harassment.
profit

That's why when I chose a lore-friendly name for my Roe, I managed to came up with something that have both a nice meaning as well as easier pronunciation.

It might be limiting for some people, but at least there won't be incidents like OP.

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Originally Posted by Fland

That's why when I chose a lore-friendly name for my Roe, I managed to came up with something that have both a nice meaning as well as easier pronunciation.

It might be limiting for some people, but at least there won't be incidents like OP.

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Same for me – I wanted my Roegadyn alt to have a name that wasn't hard to make sense of at a glance, and there are plenty of options for that route.

You can also opt for an epithet-surname in English instead of Roegadyn – within the game you can see characters in battle with surnames like Saltwind or Evencalm.

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Originally Posted by Naoki34

Ps: People can't pronounce your character's name because they don't know anything about FFXIV lore and miqo'te names.

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I think OP was talking about their Roegadyn there, but now that you mention Miqo'te, those are names that need regular explaining even if they don't get mistaken for bot names. So many people want to nickname my Seeker guy "Tia", and if you get past that stage then they probably fuse the tribe letter onto the first syllable of the name.

I'm certainly not changing any of my characters because of it. Just keep explaining weird naming conventions to one party at a time.