So, I‘m another new player who came over from THAT game, so far I‘m really enjoying it, but here are some of my main gripes with the game so far:
1.Mob leashing range is atrociously narrow, if I pull from max range with a spell or ranged attack then a simple sidestep to avoid an attack can be enough to make it leash back with immunity, this is especially painful with FATE bosses or huge HP sponges, which directly brings me to the next point:
2.Most of outdoor and solo-duty content feels to dull, and don’t get me wrong here, there’s a difference between easy (which story content has too be for obvious reasons) and outright dull. In General the whole questing framework in this game seems way too repetitive and predictable. Go to purple circle, kill 3 sponges, go to next purple circle, enter/leave hideout 20 times, next quest.
3.Getting skills taken away CONSTANTLY. Now this is what really annoys me to no end. Being level-synced to something every 10 seconds and getting anywhere from one or two to ALL but baseline skills taken away in the case you’re shoved into a 15 dungeon through LFD tool.
Naturally you could say that this will get better when you near endgame, but the sheer amount of time you will spend in leveling, or better said low to mid-tier content in this game, due to more than a dozen available classes, should have brought a better solution than outright de-learning of skills.
4.No one talks ever. Now I get that it’s a Japanese MMO (I know first-hand that no one talks ever in japan-centered MMOs) but still I’m playing on EU servers and it’s basically the same eerie silence everywhere. I don’t expect the 24/7 spam and meme talk of W*W, but this is kind of creeping me out.
Thanks for reading
My main gripes with this game
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09-19-2021, 12:18 PMKandraxxMy main gripes with this game
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09-19-2021, 01:04 PMJeeqbit
1.If the range was long, you would have the opposite problem of having to run for ages to lose aggro. The range is extremely long in Eureka and Bozja and sometimes it is convenient, but sometimes it's extremely annoying because you didn't intend to aggro it.
2.If you think of it like that then of course it will be boring. Don't focus on that, focus on the story the way you would focus on the story of a film.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kandraxx
3.Think of it as syncing down to the rotation of the previous expansion. A common problem in an MMO is that you "want to go back to a previous expansion to do the rotation how it used to be". The previous rotations do get adjustments sometimes but they are usually understandable changes because of things being redundant, unused, things that turned out to be bad ideas or had always needed changes.
If you didn't sync, you would be more powerful than the people doing it for the first time with less skills and may find a big difference in how much each of you can contribute. You would have a greater advantage in the content because it wasn't designed for the skills that you have at that level, take gap closers for example, some fights are designed around the fact most people do not have a gap closer and having your level 80 abilities would make them a lot easier.
4.Go to a busy place like Limsa Lominsa. Ask a mentor (crown icons) if they will invite you to the novice network. Join a free company or CWLS https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...munity_finder/ or the hundreds of discord servers that exist. Join parties in Party Finder because they are more talkative. -
09-19-2021, 01:20 PMKrotoanas was mentioned Eureka and Bozja content has the opposite problem. Aggro range being short in a shared overworld isn't huge and honestly I haven't bumped up against it. If you're needing to kite things you're probably fighting something you aren't "supposed" to solo and if you're having problems with FATE mobs leashing you need to center yourself more in the FATE area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kandraxx
It really really does get better and more varied later on. It sounds like you're still on ARR stuff... it was pretty monotonous yeah.. which is why the majority of the player population will suggest you just keep going. It gets better. The dev team listened and tried their hardest to make different ways to have quests but you don't see the fruit of that till I'd say later in HW and it really starts happening in Stormblood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kandraxx
As long as we have an XP heavy MSQ line this will happen a lot. You're going to be doing required quests while horrendously overleveled quite a bit just because of the adjustments they've made. It's a casualty of simplifying "early" game progression. If someone does the old content the way it was done before , IE doing roulettes and other side quests you will overlevel the absolute hell out of the content and will have to constantly be capped to do stuff. Once you have passed the main story you can mitigate the amount of time you spend capped by only doing similar leveled roulettes and content that doesn't cap you such as deep dungeons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kandraxx
It does suck.. but I've yet to hear a solution to it that doesn't end up with OP vets partying with baffled newbies.
Join novice network, find a "social" FC or linkshell group, play Eureka or Bozja content. .. or really just try and talk to people (find a discord for relevant interests!) . Generally there isn't a lot of "say" chat going on but underneath there's a whole lot of communication and socialization going on in more private channels. There's some fear of people reporting others for "innocent" comments so most people try to only talk in safeish environments such as likeminded groups and communities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kandraxx
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09-19-2021, 02:30 PMMoofiaBossValOutdoor content never stops being braindead dull, sadly. You're never going to have interesting battles like on Timeless Isle. I guess maybe the hunts have more stuff going on (particularly the world bosses) but often times there are so many people and so many effects going off it's hard to see the AoE markers, and the mechanics are often one shot, so you often die before you had a chance to do anything about it (unless you're playing a ranged job and standing away from the boss). So you join a group and get rezzed over and over through the fight until you win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kandraxx
Bozja is an endgame grind zone that has overall "harder" enemies, but they don't have challenging movesets like a timeless isle mob. They're just amped up numbers so you need other people to DPS down those damage sponges in a timely manner or a healer to help you survive. The Fates are definitely fun, though.
Yeah. FFXIV is less social than WoW. People just greet at the start of an instance, maybe throw out some tips if it is a trial, then everyone says "GG" or "ty" at the end and that's it. You can join an FC, but you spend most of the game reading dialogue, travelling to the next NPC to read dialogue, watching cutscenes, or doing solo instances. Once you make it to endgame and unlock Bozja, then you will have content you need other people for. Talking to other people while doing Bozja is quite fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kandraxx
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09-19-2021, 02:34 PMShironeko_NarunyanAnd then you go to Bozja, where mobs run like Ferrari cars and chase you around the globe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kandraxx
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09-19-2021, 02:42 PMRanakuI quote you only on that third point cause with the other points i basically agree, except number 4. which is just EU/JP culture. NA is really different to that, people are just polite and talk in group chats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kandraxx
But now to the third point, you get your rewards exactly for that. For getting your skills taken away. What do you think the dutyfinder is? You go in there to help potential newbies to clear old content for gil/achievements/experience. And yeah getting your level synced down and with that also your skills which are not part of the game at that given level is also part of that experience so you don't just run with the mch flamethrower through sastasha and one hit kill the poor captain with a supercharged drill. I know we overgear anyways nowdays but heck you don't have to ruin the newbies fun even more.
You don't have to use roulette, that is the simple fact. You can level with all your job skills just fine when you specifically queue for the highest dungeons you can run, that easy, right? The dutyfinder is there so that people can still clear old content, not like how it was in that other game we don't speak about.
So i think you didn't really understand what the roulette system really is, which i don't blame you for. It's not a system that is there to give you just free rewards. -
09-19-2021, 03:32 PMMindiori
''No one talks ever.''
Different cultural norms may be more ordered and reserved but there isn't any shortage of intelligent conversation. The drivel that passes for dialogue in the west and its associated titles isn't worth anyone's time to begin with, so that's certainly no big loss. The Japanese, talk plenty. Strange views some people seem to have. Observing respectful etiquette is not 'not talking'. -
09-19-2021, 03:54 PMFabbroGame is just too damn easy overall, even the story. I could be twice as hard and still would be easy. It should be at least 2~2,5 times harder than it current is. This is not a game meant for children, and doesn't respect the intelligence of adult players not a single bit. Overall the game is just too accessible and balanced for it's own good. A bit more hardcore content and not being afraid of being hard and doing different things core gameplay wise (combat) would do it well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kandraxx
Chat bubbles for "say", "yell" and "shout" would be nice to actually know when someone is talking to you without having to send a tell every time being right in front of you. Also areas should have a general chat for people to communicate. Hell, people talked A LOT more in FFXI and it had global servers with Japanese players in them, so FFXIV is maybe more of a reflex on the newer generation of players whom just don't communicate as well and as much. -
09-19-2021, 03:56 PMSturmChurro
Well, it's too much of a risk to just have public conversations in this game, as players will report. Now I haven't been subject to any of that, but I'd rather not take the risk. Not that there is necessarily much to chat about with the general playerbase of FFXIV. I wouldn't suggest joining Novice Network, and do not agree with it being used as a general chat by many in there either. Usually if I actually get chatting in this game it's via some party chat (usually Bozja, or Eureka type stuff rather than DF), a linkshell, or whisper. I actually mostly chat via DM on discord over all that anyway.
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09-19-2021, 04:00 PMFabbroDynamic open world content like something WoW did in Burning Crusade and things like Timeless Isle would do this game wonders. Also, Eureka and Bozja should be open world areas, and no instances...Quote:
Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal
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09-19-2021, 04:05 PMFabbroThis is just too sad, I loved seeing people chat about anything and everything in all MMOs I ever played, makes the world feel alive. People need to talk more in FFXIV, a lot more. Also there is no way to get back into the novice network chat once you're "kicked" out of it for playing long enough and getting enough levels, which is just sad since there is no other general chats in game (each area should have one).Quote:
Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal
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09-19-2021, 04:08 PMFabbroWill would anyone report? And why would any GM even consider taking any such a report seriously?? It's just a public conversation, socializing, MMOs should be about that: knowing new people and socializing. Also: this game needs more HARD open world party content ASAP. Maybe some open world challenging dungeons too... all of this would make people get together and talk more, group up more... staying longer times with the same group doing open world content that constantly puts the whole party in the risk of dying for high rewards, etc., classic MMO fun stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by SturmChurro
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09-19-2021, 04:22 PMSturmChurroI don't know why people do what they do, but, according to others, GMs have acted on a lot of them. Granted, some people say a lot of things, and a lot really shouldn't be said in a game's public chat - it's just asking for a ban. People did chat a lot in Bozja, a lot of that I thought would be bannable, so who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabbro
In regards to "hard open world content", I'm pretty sure they already slightly addressed this a few months ago. The question was about implementing Bozja critical engagements into the open world. Their battle team is simply stretched thin and they have limited resources, if I recall correctly. They have to pick and choose the content they add, and for harder content they also have to put in more time to test it with experienced devs. More casual content wins out as it appeals to a larger portion of players. -
09-19-2021, 05:37 PMVirusOnlineBalancing. It's something that 'that game' doesn't have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kandraxx
You'll get used to it and may even come to respect it. As others have said it's mainly EU/JP that are quiet. Aether NA is much more chatty and interesting until you don't want it to be.Quote:
4.No one talks ever. Now I get that it’s a Japanese MMO (I know first-hand that no one talks ever in japan-centered MMOs) but still I’m playing on EU servers and it’s basically the same eerie silence everywhere. I don’t expect the 24/7 spam and meme talk of W*W, but this is kind of creeping me out.
FFXIV communities tend to communicate only within private circles and platforms i.e. FC, LS, Discord, tells, etc as chat is moderated and can be reported if you start talking spicey.
After you get yourself into some of these you might come to appreciate the quietness of cities. -
09-19-2021, 06:28 PMShurrikhanIt's not really an either-or situation. The anchor, the extent of mob patrolling around said anchor, the visibility of its domain's boundary, and the procedure for disengaging can each be adjusted or even made conditional.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeeqbit
For instance, perhaps we could set the anchor only upon combat's start and at location of the first unit to engage that enemy, or add that distance from the anchor to its maximum effective range, so that it doesn't seem so damn short when engaging from the full 25 yalms.
As for the procedure, it may already be quite a QoL change to have combat end upon the player's leaving the domain, rather than the mob's, or to slowly shift the anchor towards the mob's then-present location. (That'd especially be worthwhile if the game happens to store measures of the pre-enmity-modified damage dealt to the mob and could therefore revert that progress over, say, 5 seconds from the player having crossed the boundary; such would allow players to bail out without resetting everyone's progress while still preventing exploitation.) Or, there could be a brief period of lenience and the boundary might become increasingly visible as the mob nears it and then far more so after you've crossed it, so you know to where you'd have to kite it back. Etc., etc.
If a horror film had big, generic purple circles from which the antagonist would appear, I think it'd be difficult to just "focus on the story" there, too... It's an issue; yes, we can avert our attention from it, as with any other, to perceive the overall work more positively, but it's nothing for which to leave the onus of enjoyment on any given player.Quote:
2.If you think of it like that then of course it will be boring. Don't focus on that, focus on the story the way you would focus on the story of a film.
...The experience of someone synced down to level 30 in Shadowbringers has very little in common with the experience available to that class at level 30 back in ARR or HW. I'll agree with the rest, though, of course.Quote:
3.Think of it as syncing down to the rotation of the previous expansion. A common problem in an MMO is that you "want to go back to a previous expansion to do the rotation how it used to be".
Yeah, it's a little strange. On WoW Classic, one can walk right into simultaneous conversations on lit theory, Legend of Korra, and language-learning in Stormwind, end up in the middle of an oddly civil politics debate in Ironforge, and then fly over to Loch Modan to run into a group attempting collaborative story-telling over general chat and another group RP nostalgizing in /say in the Thelsamar inn. Here, the last time I saw active conversation was probably... in Rhalgr's Reach this one time, a couple years back? Before that, Eureka: Anemos and The Fringes around Raubahn Ex era? Public conversation's pretty sparse in XIV following each expansion's release (with each getting progressively quieter, fed into FC and LS chat instead).Quote:
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But, as others have mentioned here, FC and LS chat can be decently active, so long as the players haven't left for until Endwalker. -
09-19-2021, 06:57 PMraelgunActually you are wrong with what DF is, really really wrong, it is not designed for new players in mind at all, purpose is designed to reduce queue times but the downside is its random what you get and you get rewards for doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranaku
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09-19-2021, 07:05 PMkaynide
I would politely suggest you give Guildwars 2 a try also. I play both, so my meaning isn’t “omg, quit FFXIV plz!”
That is, different games have different good and a bad points.
FFXIV is great for story, overall looks and general polish of most visual aspects. Some of the mechanical bits like menus or how the market works…ehhh.
Guildwars has a more simple story and a focus on tighter gameplay. It doesn’t look as good but under the hood it is very polished. (The system, gameplay etc), and there is simply a lot to just do. Seriously lots. And seriously “wtf”.
I’m working on an achievement called “chairs of the world” which just literally involves sitting in each and every kind of chair once. And there are 100s across the world.
If you want a more dangerous and active world, Guildwars is it. If you want something that feels very cinematic, FFXIV. Both have very generous free trials. Enjoy! -
09-19-2021, 08:36 PMJeeqbitIt does. Paladin's rotation is the same except for a few removed off globals and adjustments like reprisal and recast times for mitigation. Paladin's level 70 rotation is still intact and many others, but I noted the ones that have changed because of things becoming redundant or being poor design in practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shurrikhan
Duty Finder has roulettes which try to match you with people who queue directly for content. Who queues directly for content except when it's their first time? Almost nobody, so you almost always have a new player in the party.Quote:
Originally Posted by raelgun
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09-19-2021, 09:08 PMFerra
As a relatively new player myself, I wanted to chime in!
The solo content is what it is. A lot of my experience in ARR is being an errand gal, especially after downing the big bad in the main story. Not a fan of that. As for no one talking? Absolutely not. I chat it up in groups all the time and I am a healthy participant in Shout chat in Balmung. There's a lot of social folks out there, you just gotta speak up first! Which I understand is hard. I had a lot of social anxiety before and it's not easy pushing out of that shell.
Anyway, compared to the "other game" referenced I've been having a blast! Especially on the RP front: Lodestone provides so many tools to help with RP and it's been great! -
09-19-2021, 09:32 PMraelgunNew players are among them but no, its not designed for new players as much as people think, thats just their excuse to fire shots at vets when the truth is, the DF is just there to shorten queues, as people just want to do content cos they are bored or want something to do, before the surge in new players to the game, the only players you had in DF was other experienced players to the game. The reason why you are seeing more new players per DF is just because thats how many new players are coming into the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeeqbit
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09-20-2021, 02:06 AMJeeqbitThat's completely untrue. There have always been sprouts everywhere on most servers and the game has been flooded with new players for many, many years.Quote:
Originally Posted by raelgun
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09-20-2021, 04:55 AMBreakbeat
1. Agreed.
2. Agreed somewhat. In ARR and HW it's definitely this way. Later content is far more varied.
3. Doesn't bother me. When I zone into something that I've been synced down to, I glance at the buttons still lit up, and do the rotation with those buttons.
4. Disagree, and I don't know how you're experiencing what you are. There's chatting everywhere I go. Plenty in cities, a fair amount in long raids (Praetorium roulette is a chat-fest), simple greetings in virtually all dungeons. I am the type of person to initiate chat a lot of the time, and I always get responses. -
09-20-2021, 05:13 AMLexis
As a fellow 'that game' player who came back here recently...
1. Mob Leashing: That also grinded my gears early on. I can't tell you how many times I used displacement as a RDM, tumbling away, only for the mob to leash back right as I'm about to finish it off. You get used to it after a while though, I don't have that issue anymore and I've learned to use the short leashing to my advantage.
2. Lackluster open world: It's not really this game's strong suit, I'll agree with you there, but while it can be disappointing at first, there's so much to appreciate in FFXIV that I feel the strengths far outweigh the weaknesses. Your first play through, you'll be mainly leveling via the Main Story Quest. It's not the most exciting gameplay-wise (except some of the duty that are different and super fun), but the story itself, along with the high quality cutscenes/voice acting makes it all worth it in my eyes. Plus the dungeons/trials are really awesome.
3. Lost abilities through sync'ing: That one's also unfortunate but understandable. It's the price we pay to keep older content 'relevant'.
4. Quiet zones/dungeons: This is where I have to disagree. I don't miss the random arguments and trolling about political opinions in major cities nor the weirdness/rudeness that tends to be associated with 'General chat' of 'a certain game'. You do see conversations happening in major cities, and they're the kind you can actually follow without searing your eyeballs from the sheer stupidity. As for dungeons, they're just as quiet as Modern WoW, except people actually take a moment to greet each other and say good-bye as opposed to either complete silence or, even worse, people arguing and calling each other bad. Someone made a mistake? Peeps will calmly explain what you're supposed to do and then jump back into it. Sometimes peeps will give a quick rundown of boss mechanics before pulling. Sometimes groups will decide if they want to pull big or go easy before starting the dungeon. It's honestly been great for me so far and I've appreciated the silent groups and chattier parties equally. -
09-20-2021, 05:24 AMTaleraRistain
In regards to FATEs, you're trying to pull the mobs out of their designated area. FATEs are outlined by the blue circle on your map and mini-map. They will de-level synch you and reset if pulled out of that. So just stay closer to the middle on those and you'll be fine.
The smaller overworld leashing is so things don't chase you halfway over creation if you're just running through. Wait till you get to an area with frogs and you'll see where this can be a benefit.
In regards to chat, I've heard that the EU and JP servers tend to be quiet. NA servers are not. We're a chatty bunch. So it's not so much the game itself as just regional/cultural norms. -
09-20-2021, 06:26 AMFabbroI want FFXIV to have a more dangerous and active world, as it once did (and as did FFXI before it).Quote:
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09-20-2021, 07:22 AMJojoyaYou don't need to fear saying WoW. Many of us are former WoW players, whether we quit playing in Wrath, Legion or this summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kandraxx
1. Open world mobs aren't intended to be pulled for AoE chaining. Just attack them where they are. FATEs do have their range limits - use the mini-map to see if you're close to the edge and move back in if so.
2. So was WoW's outdoor content. It will improve as you get into later expansion content but it will never be great.
3. You're going to get a lot of conflicting opinions on this topic. Some players like it, some dislike it. In the end, it's a design choice by SE so low level players aren't at a disadvantage to high level players in content intended for the former. You can always choose not to queue for content that isn't your job level if it bothers you that much.
4. Thank goodness for no Barrens chat invading every chat channel in the game. There are plenty of chatty FCs and linkshells you can join, just find the social circle that's right for you. -
09-20-2021, 08:34 AMAstriferCrow
I've played on EU servers and I have to agree with your last point, they are much much more quiet than the NA ones. Now, NA ones; especially balmung, mateus and zalera ime, are very chatty.
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09-20-2021, 09:10 AMShurrikhanThat's just flagrantly incorrect. Yes, there were more oGCDs back then, but that was the smallest of the differences. There literally was no Reprisal available to anyone but DRK (nor Role Actions of any sort), for instance; you had no AoE damage, you used Flash for mitigation and initial AoE enmity, and Fracture was a slight dps gain. You didn't yet have an enmity stance at that level, only Sword Oath (with Shield Oath being given at 40), and your group tended to play around its bonus potency by focus targeting enemies in sequence, often with CC (after DoTs, if any of them had initial damage, as those without direct/initial damage wouldn't break CC) in order to free up healer globals for damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeeqbit
Compare that to a Brayflox NM run now. They're quite distinct.
Depends on the luck of one's draw / the thread, unfortunately. Plenty here are quick to shut down any idea that might have even 10% commonality with "M+" or "borrowed powers", for instance. Granted, the same is true for anything vaguely resembling "Merit Points", "Limit Break Quests", "sub-jobs" or even "Dynamis", in the XI vein. Our community is, sadly, one of the quickest to insist that anyone with ideas that smell even remotely of another MMO should "go back where [they] came from."Quote:
Originally Posted by Jojoya
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09-20-2021, 09:37 AMJeeqbitReprisal's effect used to be on Rage of Halone (as a physical down) and of course it wasn't aoe, Flash is effectively just replaced with Total Eclipse now except it actually does damage. I remember how guides said to target enemies in order but in my experience BLM aoe made that not a good strategy for the tank.Quote:
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09-20-2021, 10:40 AMShurrikhanExcept the fact that you had only Sword Oath, your AoE had very little spam value (as it did nothing but inflict enmity and a diminishing Accuracy debuff that only saved perhaps 1.5 healer GCDs over its full duration), healer ST damage had far greater relative significance (especially on WHM), and your optimized damage came at cost to enmity, literally changed what was optimal for your whole team. Once Shield Oath was given earlier and PLD was given AoE worth spamming, that entire dynamic changed. The two at-30 playstyles more different than alike.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeeqbit
The guides were sound. At level 30, BLM-BLM, BLM-BRD, and BRD-BRD were the only comps for which it would not be optimal to (CC-)focus-target when running a PLD, since the PLD itself lacked AoE and had high ST damage for its level via its full combo and the at-the-time rather massive potency bonus of Sword Oath. The damage lost from Flash and additional healing requirements from lack of CC and any one enemy dying slower was greater than the what any single BLM could gain from the ppgcd advantage of AoE over ST. Even among those three comps, it was a toss-up.Quote:
I remember how guides said to target enemies in order but in my experience BLM aoe made that not a good strategy for the tank.
Remember, back then periodic damage did not break sleep or bind -- only direct damage did, and many more DoTs (Bio, Bio II, Touch of Death, Shadow Flare, Flaming Arrow, etc., etc.) had no initial damage. You'd use the few that had direct damage, (AoE-)Sleep, and then burn in series, often killing everything such that not a single heal is required for that fight (beyond a pre-Adlo/Regen).
Even now, in probably some 70% of my Leveling Roulette runs, my entire party is level synced down by at least some 10 levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeeqbit
Presumably that's just to make me wonder why the point in common between a 58, 64, 73, and 80 is... Dzmael Darkhold?
Mate, XIV is no more balanced across the leveling experience than WoW is. It's probably less so, actually. Not that such particularly matters. The reason for the down-sync is as has already been described, the no-win compromise they'd otherwise have to face between lower-level players, in having a more limited kit, being shafted on maximal performance or higher-level players, in being forced to use their full kit at scaled-down value, being shafted in terms of effort required just to do the same as (or barely more than) lower-level players.Quote:
Originally Posted by VirusOnline
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09-20-2021, 11:54 AMJeeqbitOptimal crumbles in duty finder though because they usually don't care about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shurrikhan
That doesn't mean they are not relatively new to the game and it doesn't mean a whole lot overall because if you have done thousands of dungeon roulette solo queues over these years then you have almost always had a first time bonus. If you have made alts on non-congested worlds then there have been new players everywhere for years, even in Stormblood.Quote:
Even now, in probably some 70% of my Leveling Roulette runs, my entire party is level synced down by at least some 10 levels.
Presumably that's just to make me wonder why the point in common between a 58, 64, 73, and 80 is... Dzmael Darkhold?
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09-20-2021, 12:42 PMShurrikhanWhether people cared about it or not, those behaviors were the norm at the time, hence the difference between the level 30 experience now and the level 30 experience then. To say level sync lets one experience the given content as it appeared in a previous expansion is more than likely going to be just plain wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeeqbit
[1] That a party member is nonetheless new to the game still has no reason to send a party who are at minimum half-way through Heavensward to an ARR dungeon (i.e., to content to which none of the party are new).Quote:
[1] That doesn't mean they are not relatively new to the game and it doesn't mean a whole lot overall because [2] if you have done thousands of dungeon roulette solo queues over these years then you have almost always had a first time bonus.
[2] I have done thousands of roulettes, yes. The slight majority of my 4-mans had no first-time bonus, and only some two-thirds of 8-mans (minus MSQ roulette, which have even then about 50/50) had such. That's precisely the point. Yes, roulettes help players get (inadvertently, their first) queues, but it's not as if the every time n people hop into a roulette that at least 1-in-4 players will be one such adventurer in need of a first run. That's precisely why we often end up randoming into dungeons no one matched into the roulette group specifically queued for.
It's just a reward system. Outside of Sprout surges, it functions to most players' satisfaction regardless of whether it picks up a bonus or helps someone actually in need. -
09-20-2021, 06:06 PMgotaname1Isnt the reason EU servers are more quiet because the people on there are speaking way too many different languages? It would make a public chat a horrendous experience if 10 languages would mix all at once.Quote:
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09-20-2021, 06:38 PMJin-
Sadly your point 2 is there for rest of the game. With barely any changes and doesnt get better like someone suggested before.
Maybe it's the game engine they are using for needing those clunky quest mechanics or maybe the designer is incompetent. Or maybe it's both, who knows. I still 100% expect the same crappy open world experience in the Endwalker