Warrior clunkyness

First off I would like to explain I enjoy 80 warrior. I like it's sustainability. I like it's heavy hitting play style. I actually enjoy it's simple rotation.

But the one thing that I can't wrap my head around is Nascent Flash. The more that I use it the more I want bloodbath back. Bloodbath is a superior skill compared to how Nascent Flash works with another party member. Bloodbath lasts longer and is easier to use (PS4 player). With that being said I don't understand SE's idea being giving warrior an inferior skill that relies on another party member to work. You can't even use it soloing to boot.

Now I understand the idea behind nascent flash in sustainability don't get me wrong there. But for boss fights it feels useless compared to what Raw Intuition offers with such a short cooldown.

Nascent Flash needs reworked given the clunkyness and changed to
Bathed in Blood (trait) - Everytime a rage spending skill is executed you gain a stack of Bathed in Blood with max stacks of 5. Using the Bathed in Blood skill (takes the place of nascent flash) heals self for 400 cure potency per stack. Additional Effect: Thrill of Battle extends the heal to party members in 10 yalm radius. Bathed in Blood has a 90 second cooldown, and stacks can be gained at any point until player decides when to use them after cooldown expires.

This would honestly fix the solo aspect, and the clunky feeling from nascent is fixed with thrill of battle additional effect healing the party rather then one person, and that stacks can be used when the warrior decides. Sort of an "Oh Crap!" button that can be used every 90 seconds. I like the idea that I can use this whenever I want and couple it with thrill of battle when I decide based on what I need or the party needs. Definitely more QOL. I would like to see the warrior leave the burst window idea behind nascent with a more use it when you think you need it idea. The cure potency seems high imo, and what do you guys think? Let me know with your comments. I love theory crafting all the time based on what would I like the job to identify with. Warrior needs to be: Chaos, Blood, Uncontrollable rage, Comrade.

nascent flash is for your partner support skill not a parsonal selfheal you should rely on specially when you have equilibrium and storm path for that purpose, while it's true you get huge benefics from it since WAR have periods of high damage spikes the nature of the benefic it's seems to be intended for the double tank busters whe get this last savage tiers, with proper usage you co-tank use his support skill on you and nascent flash on him and both get high mitigation and nice self heals making it a good combo buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut ppl only look in self benefic and preffer to abuse of nascent flash as a personal self-heal instead of use raw intuition wich to be honest considering how powerful nascent flash is it's normal they do.

in resume nascent flash is not clunky, it's ppl using it outside of his intended purpose more than anything else and it's normal that happen due the desing but the solution is simple remove the personal self healing and ppl will figure how to use it at it's should since raw intuition should be your primary option for any personal danage and not nascent flash.

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Originally Posted by shao32

in resume nascent flash is not clunky,

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Using it without a macro is very clunky. And even then it can still be a major piece of s-word to use.

I agree with other when you have to make the skill a separate macro for it to actually work correctly and SWIFTLY. I for one find it VERY clunky to use with a controller on PS4. DRK for example doesn't need this macro at all...albeit still needs to cycle through the party members to apply TBN. But the fact still remains you don't need a macro for the skill to just work.

I find it hard to believe every warrior is OK with how this skill works as intended. It's mainly used for the burst window DPS and then for infuriates. Other then that it's kind of lack luster outside of AOE pulls and Decimate spam.

I would call this skill niche and clunky. It needs overhauled, and imo WILL be changed in furture expansions. Mark my words.

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Originally Posted by FirstnameLastname

Using it without a macro is very clunky. And even then it can still be a major piece of s-word to use.

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It's just as clunky for Paladin / Dark knight / Gunbreaker to use their equivalent without a macro, same for shirk also, so that argument is moot. If the other three have to deal with clunky target requirement cooldowns, so can WAR.

you guys have to understand that nascent flash is primary desing to be used in you co-tank when he recive masive damage aka tank busters and other mechanics where the MT recive tons of damage and you not, it's the equivalent of PLD intervetion, DRK the blackest night and GNB heart of stone, all tanks have to target others to use it on his team mates and all tanks lose the use of a defensive in the process, DRK cant use TBN until is back, GNB the same with heart of stone and PLD lose oath resources the same used for shelltron.

the self heal is a bonus but is not meant to be used as personal purposes since for that we have raw intuition sharing the same recast, a skill that doesn't need to switch targets and you have equilibrium every 60s, with that recast you can self heal yourself after mitigate any TB with a great chunk, if nascent flash is too annoying to abuse then use the defensive kit as how should be, yeah the skill is great to enjoy , i personally enjoy a lot when i use chaotic cyclone and laugh at the mass pulls since remember me the old days of DRK and his fantastic AOE rotation, but undestarnd is not mean to be used that way and that rate and every tank have to target you team mates to trow them his single target mitigation so WAR is not more clunky that the others.

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Originally Posted by aodhan_ofinnegain

It's just as clunky for Paladin / Dark knight / Gunbreaker to use their equivalent without a macro, same for shirk also, so that argument is moot. If the other three have to deal with clunky target requirement cooldowns, so can WAR.

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This argument does not make sense at all.

DK could cast his shield on himself without circling through party, GNB could do it as well.
PLD self defensive cooldowns does not require target, intervention and cover does not give anything to pld and so he does not need to use those basically never outside savage unless the team is just very bad.
Warrior only gives 50% healing to the second target and 10% mitigation, it has been given to war in exchange for tank stance from stormblood which has been several times better than nascent flash. They took away warrior healing capabilities and put it into nascent flash which is horrible skill to use and its virtually not even comparable to what he used to heal before.

And i too support the OP, i would be far better with bloodbath instead of this clunky garbage skill.

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Originally Posted by shao32

you guys have to understand that nascent flash is primary desing to be used in you co-tank when he recive masive damage aka tank busters and other mechanics where the MT recive tons of damage and you not, it's the equivalent of PLD intervetion, DRK the blackest night and GNB heart of stone, all tanks have to target others to use it on his team mates and all tanks lose the use of a defensive in the process, DRK cant use TBN until is back, GNB the same with heart of stone and PLD lose oath resources the same used for shelltron.

the self heal is a bonus but is not meant to be used as personal purposes since for that we have raw intuition sharing the same recast, a skill that doesn't need to switch targets and you have equilibrium every 60s, with that recast you can self heal yourself after mitigate any TB with a great chunk, if nascent flash is too annoying to abuse then use the defensive kit as how should be, yeah the skill is great to enjoy , i personally enjoy a lot when i use chaotic cyclone and laugh at the mass pulls since remember me the old days of DRK and his fantastic AOE rotation, but undestarnd is not mean to be used that way and that rate and every tank have to target you team mates to trow them his single target mitigation so WAR is not more clunky that the others.

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Stormblood warrior has been nerfed to the ground and given nascent flash to give SOME of his healing back to him, the "support" component of this skills is useless in practice and does not make any difference almost at all.
The job is a shadow of himself since 5.0 came out, it has it worse than drk that you are used to complain about so much.

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Originally Posted by shao32

you guys have to understand that nascent flash is primary desing to be used in you co-tank when he recive masive damage aka tank busters and other mechanics where the MT recive tons of damage and you not, it's the equivalent of PLD intervetion, DRK the blackest night and GNB heart of stone, all tanks have to target others to use it on his team mates and all tanks lose the use of a defensive in the process, DRK cant use TBN until is back, GNB the same with heart of stone and PLD lose oath resources the same used for shelltron.

the self heal is a bonus but is not meant to be used as personal purposes since for that we have raw intuition sharing the same recast, a skill that doesn't need to switch targets and you have equilibrium every 60s, with that recast you can self heal yourself after mitigate any TB with a great chunk, if nascent flash is too annoying to abuse then use the defensive kit as how should be, yeah the skill is great to enjoy , i personally enjoy a lot when i use chaotic cyclone and laugh at the mass pulls since remember me the old days of DRK and his fantastic AOE rotation, but undestarnd is not mean to be used that way and that rate and every tank have to target you team mates to trow them his single target mitigation so WAR is not more clunky that the others.

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Shao, for the love of god... get the idea of "Nascent Flash's primary purpose / design philosophy is to support your co-tank" out of your head. Nascent Flash is a two-fold purpose skill with both effects being equally viable, given the right situation.

It is also not fair to shoe-horn Nascent Flash that easily into comparison to all other target-utility just because you can target someone with it.

- Intervention can be used along with Sheltron as long as you have 100 gauge, Raw Int + Nascent can't.
- The Blackest Night only works for a single target at a time, but has the shortest cooldown + a resource refund to compensate.
- Heart of Stone also only works for a single target at a time, but instead of a shorter cooldown it allows you to transfer Brutal Shell to a target, as negligible as it may be.

In comparison to those, Nascent Flash sets itself apart for having two purposes at the same time, which more often than not don't need to happen at the same time to make the skill viable.
- Mitigation & minor recovery for a target
- Large recovery for self

In practice, Nascent Flash is more often than not used to recover HP, particularly if you are the current tank of a target and situationally it gets double efficiency from double-busters. The keyword is situationally.

The problem for many WARs out there isn't that they don't care about applying Nascent Flash / Glint to a target if an attack is about to hit them for massive damage or to deal with fluff damage. It is when the situation of getting a benefit of Nascent Glint, Nascent Flash's secondary effect is simply not possible but using Nascent Flash would be more beneficial for self than using Raw Intuition, that is where Nascent Flash has clunkiness regarding input and should be improved upon.

The solution to this issue - allow Nascent Flash to be cast without a target similar to Dragon Sight from DRG without applying Nascent Glint to anyone
The solution is NOT - nerfing self-benefits of Nascent Flash / buffing Raw Intuition just to make Raw Intuition 100% the go-to skill to use. (putting this here preemptively before anyone comes up with this idea)

What this effectively would change is allowing WARs who are MT / current tank (i.e. where 90% of the time there is no benefit to apply to anyone else) to use Nascent Flash without requiring a macro for swift use or without having to learn hot-swapping targets to use it. This would only make the input easier, the actual use would be identical as before.

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Originally Posted by Nedkel

This argument does not make sense at all.

DK could cast his shield on himself without circling through party, GNB could do it as well.
PLD self defensive cooldowns does not require target, intervention and cover does not give anything to pld and so he does not need to use those basically never outside savage unless the team is just very bad.
Warrior only gives 50% healing to the second target and 10% mitigation, it has been given to war in exchange for tank stance from stormblood which has been several times better than nascent flash. They took away warrior healing capabilities and put it into nascent flash which is horrible skill to use and its virtually not even comparable to what he used to heal before.

And i too support the OP, i would be far better with bloodbath instead of this clunky garbage skill.

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Okay so re-read my point, seems you can't understand something basic.

You make use of the other 3 tanks equivalent skills to Nascent Flash in the same capacity i.e. using Heart of Stone on the Main Tank as it comes off cooldown for GNB unless in gashing combo, a lot of weaving as it, so delay unless it's needed, or hold if needed in the next 25 seconds for a buster/ mechanic because otherwise it's wasting a cooldown.

Intervention on Paladin, you use before capping so quite frequently if you aren't main tanking because again you're wasting a resource. You don't delay it's use unless you have Sheltrons or Interventions held for a specific buster/ mechanic where you will be left short if you use it before your planned usage.

DRK you typically TBN for busters / mechanics, but if you know the MT will take enough damage to break the shield, especially coming up to burst windows to get and extra edge / flood in said windows.

oh look at that, seems the other three make use of their equivalent supports skills.

Huh? Who would of thought that would be a thing...? /s

Also WAR has this skill called Raw Intuition, admittedly it is not as strong as Nascent Flash, which is a design flaw, but to disregard RI out right is a bad way to attempt to counter my point.

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Originally Posted by aodhan_ofinnegain

Also WAR has this skill called Raw Intuition, admittedly it is not as strong as Nascent Flash, which is a design flaw, but to disregard RI out right is a bad way to attempt to counter my point.

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Raw Intuition and Nascent Flash sharing a cooldown while MTing has the effect that one of them has a greater benefit, given the right situation. That is not a design flaw, that is clever design because your choice is no longer binary but rather depending on other factors of your kit, such as "do I have a combo ender / gauge spenders / infuriate when using this" or "will mitigating two auto attacks / a buster outweigh the healing benefit of NF through damage mitigated".

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

Raw Intuition and Nascent Flash sharing a cooldown while MTing has the effect that one of them has a greater benefit, given the right situation. That is not a design flaw, that is clever design because your choice is no longer binary but rather depending on other factors of your kit, such as "do I have a combo ender / gauge spenders / infuriate when using this" or "will mitigating two auto attacks / a buster outweigh the healing benefit of NF through damage mitigated".

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Let's not kid ourselves here, most WARs pick NF over RI 90% of the time, and then a handful cry when they have to target someone. Honestly I think having a target requirement is a fair balancing check on the power of the skill. Sharing a recast with RI is kinda weak as a limitation on the skill. Honestly, I'm more for leave it as it is, it doesn't need adjusting of any kind.

WAR already has free self heal from Equilibrium, while also gets healed from Thrill of Battle (plus Convalescence for both GCD and oGCD healing), and gains healing passively from Storm's Path. So WAR is not as broken AF compared to HW and SB in self healing, it's still got the most free healing without sacrificing DPS or resource.

Personally, I think WAR doesn't need anymore free healing without any strings attached, but have restrictions on further self-healing moving forward.

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Originally Posted by aodhan_ofinnegain

Let's not kid ourselves here, most WARs pick NF over RI 90% of the time, and then a handful cry when they have to target someone. Honestly I think having a target requirement is a fair balancing check on the power of the skill. Sharing a recast with RI is kinda weak as a limitation on the skill. Honestly, I'm more for leave it as it is, it doesn't need adjusting of any kind.

WAR already has free self heal from Equilibrium, while also gets healed from Thrill of Battle (plus Convalescence for both GCD and oGCD healing), and gains healing passively from Storm's Path. So WAR is not as broken AF compared to HW and SB in self healing, it's still got the most free healing without sacrificing DPS or resource.

Personally, I think WAR doesn't need anymore free healing without any strings attached, but have restrictions on further self-healing moving forward.

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What this effectively would change is allowing WARs who are MT / current tank (i.e. where 90% of the time there is no benefit to apply to anyone else) to use Nascent Flash without requiring a macro for swift use or without having to learn hot-swapping targets to use it. This would only make the input easier, the actual use would be identical as before.

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Let it be clear that you are trying to deny Quality of Life for input with a pathetic appeal to balance Nascent Flash when it doesn't affect the power at all and the exact same QoL has already been given to DRG's Dragon Sight.

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Originally Posted by Nedkel

Stormblood warrior has been nerfed to the ground and given nascent flash to give SOME of his healing back to him, the "support" component of this skills is useless in practice and does not make any difference almost at all.
The job is a shadow of himself since 5.0 came out, it has it worse than drk that you are used to complain about so much.

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WAR self-healing in heavenward was just OP, the job was invincible during berserk every 60s over what? 15-20s? It was insane and needs to be nerfed yeah and still WAR keep the nature of self healing with equilibrium, thrill of ballte, storm path, steel cyclone (stormblood) and now nascent flash, the job was to much those days and thank good bloodbath was gone.

Still WAR have with DRK one of the best defensive kit of the game and the difference of DPS is none despite WAR is equal/surpass DRK so I fail to understand how it have it worse.

Now I don't complaint about DRK performance but DRK gameplay Wich is a different thing, I could care less about DRK performance right now.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

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It's pretty clear, WAR don't have the raw intuition vs nascent flash barrier for nothing, one self mitigation only, the other can only being used on others, it's simple and fit the mold every tank is forced to fit right now and I consider they make a mistake adding self-healing since ppl use it over his selfish counterpart by a mile, if nascent flash didn't have the self healing trait from the begining none of this complains would have ever seen the light of your minds.

Now the raw intuition and why nascent flash should get a Nerf on self use is simple, if they allow the use of nascent flash on yourself it will become a struggle of Wich one is the useless one, something like the eos/selene drama every expansion, and the clear winner right now is nascent flash so you now what will happen, well it's already happening, every proper WAR avoid raw and use nascent flash only while they manage the rest of the kit which is braindead easy thanks to the lack of TB.

So or they remove raw intuition and make nascent flash a 50% self-heal +10% mitigation for both personal use only and partner use only or they remove the self-healing and end with this drama once for all, otherwise one of the 2 skills will become the pariah and raw is the the one right now that's why ppl ask for nascent become more easy to use on yourself.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

Let it be clear that you are trying to deny Quality of Life for input with a pathetic appeal to balance Nascent Flash when it doesn't affect the power at all and the exact same QoL has already been given to DRG's Dragon Sight.

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So, okay sure buddy, disregard the plethora of self-healing that I listed off that WAR already has for free, and cherry pick, to suit your argument, good job buddy.

The devs clearly designed the skill to actually make it useful in the OT role since that was a common complaint in SB against Paladin holding a monopoly on OT skills. I've had many WAR expect me to pull and MT as a PLD back in SB (lul). Now that was the definition of clunky.

The way I see it, if they remove the targeting requirement for Nascent Flash, no WAR is ever gonna use the Nascent Glint aspect like at all bar maybe a very small portion. Which is the equivalent of a DRG cucking a party member of 5% damage every time because targeting is "clunky", it's objectively bad not to target someone as DRG with Dragon Sight.

It's not denying QoL for the sake of it, nor using balance for the sake of hiding behind some magical word. I think there has to be some limitations in place for that sheer amount of healing that can be done with NF. Otherwise make clemency oGCD and require no mp, with current potency, while still affected by Requiescat and still be spammable, but that's quite absurd though. Clemency has a cost because it is that strong, so NF to have something minor like a target requirement is a fair trade off for it's strength.

Honestly I feel everyone is arguing about the usefulness of the skill versus the clunkyness of the skill.

Remember I play on PS4 with a controller. This can be cumbersome to cycle threw party members and even worse for 8 man raids.

I think we can all agree that the skill could use some QOL to avoid making a macro for it to just simply work. In a game where speed and GCD's matter greatly I fail to see how everyone is ok with how this skill works.

It needs reworked. If MNK get's form shift QOL to refresh stacks then I don't understand the problem for making nascent glint an AOE without having to target. Whats the big deal? Why fight it?

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Originally Posted by Sqwall

Honestly I feel everyone is arguing about the usefulness of the skill versus the clunkyness of the skill.

Remember I play on PS4 with a controller. This can be cumbersome to cycle threw party members and even worse for 8 man raids.

I think we can all agree that the skill could use some QOL to avoid making a macro for it to just simply work. In a game where speed and GCD's matter greatly I fail to see how everyone is ok with how this skill works.

It needs reworked. If MNK get's form shift QOL to refresh stacks then I don't understand the problem for making nascent glint an AOE without having to target. Whats the big deal? Why fight it?

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I play with controller too, and if you use a macro it eliminates the majority of the clunk.

/ac "Nascent Flash" <2>
/micon "Nascent Flash"

works the same for Shirk, Cover, Intervention, TBN and HoS.

Thing is you can cry all you want about targeting, but the rest of the tanks have to deal with it. It is not a WAR only issue. For the other tanks we use macros that do work to remedy the clunkyiness. The only issue is sometimes macros do not queue properly, but WARs NF is the only support skill that has the advantage of working even if late to apply as it can still heal up the targeted party member and self, while, Intervention and HoS are useless after the damage, while TBN, if it doesn't break costs the Dark knight an Edge / Flood. So even then WAR benefits while Dark Knight suffers a loss.

If you remove Shake it Off to gain AoE Nascent Glint at a reduced amount of healing of course, then sure, it would be more thematic to WAR, but while it has one, it should not have the other. But for both that might be an expansion skill but there should be an equivalent skill for the other three tanks to keep the balance across the four tanks toolkits.

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Originally Posted by aodhan_ofinnegain

I play with controller too, and if you use a macro it eliminates the majority of the clunk.

/ac "Nascent Flash" <2>
/micon "Nascent Flash"

works the same for Shirk, Cover, Intervention, TBN and HoS.

Thing is you can cry all you want about targeting, but the rest of the tanks have to deal with it. It is not a WAR only issue. For the other tanks we use macros that do work to remedy the clunkyiness. The only issue is sometimes macros do not queue properly, but WARs NF is the only support skill that has the advantage of working even if late to apply as it can still heal up the targeted party member and self, while, Intervention and HoS are useless after the damage, while TBN, if it doesn't break costs the Dark knight an Edge / Flood. So even then WAR benefits while Dark Knight suffers a loss.

If you remove Shake it Off to gain AoE Nascent Glint at a reduced amount of healing of course, then sure, it would be more thematic to WAR, but while it has one, it should not have the other. But for both that might be an expansion skill but there should be an equivalent skill for the other three tanks to keep the balance across the four tanks toolkits.

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Man I don't understand the need for others to BLINDLY think that they are constantly right on a forum. I didn't ask for purest to come on here and keep pushing the idea that they are the only right people to ever grace the forums. You need to understand the reason for this post. WHY DO WE NEED A MACRO TO MAKE A SKILL BETTER? Stop defending the real problem, and understand that it is just a clunky skill. Does it work YES. I don't deny that, and if you understood my posts, I don't think it's a trash skill. Just cumbersome in it's execution. I want QOL, and if not reworking the skill altogether then so be it. Just make it better to use.

Get your head out of the dirt and take it for what it is. I clunky cumbersome skill that needs TLC for it to work correctly and effectively. Get over yourself.

I just want to point out a 2000 potency AoE heal for Warrior on a 90s cooldown would be on par with White Mages and Assize, if not stronger.

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Originally Posted by Sqwall

Man I don't understand the need for others to BLINDLY think that they are constantly right on a forum. I didn't ask for purest to come on here and keep pushing the idea that they are the only right people to ever grace the forums. You need to understand the reason for this post. WHY DO WE NEED A MACRO TO MAKE A SKILL BETTER? Stop defending the real problem, and understand that it is just a clunky skill. Does it work YES. I don't deny that, and if you understood my posts, I don't think it's a trash skill. Just cumbersome in it's execution. I want QOL, and if not reworking the skill altogether then so be it. Just make it better to use.

Get your head out of the dirt and take it for what it is. I clunky cumbersome skill that needs TLC for it to work correctly and effectively. Get over yourself.

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Okay so now you're just getting entitled. I am not always correct and will happily concede if proven to be wrong, however, cry like a little baby over something so minor is just sad, and then throw out crappy broken ideas for QoL and not consider balancing issues is tantamount to idiocy. Just to let you know devs do design jobs and their skills with balance in mind, it's why GNB was under-powered in the media tour, but is now the top DPS tank, or why nerfs happen to some jobs.

Also "purest" lmfao what are you smoking? I'm a purest for thinking there should be some sort of trade off for strong skills? okay buddy whatever xD

DRK has a 3k mp trade off, that gets refunded ONLY if the TBN breaks, if it doesn't it loses 3k MP. Paladin has to spend 2k MP and a GCD to heal itself per heal, which can offset its entire rotation if done outside of Requiescat, but sure why should WAR have trade-off on it's skills right? (GNB not mentioned as it does not have anything quite at that level of strength.)

Why do we need a macro for shirk, and the other tanks support skills? we don't need to have macros to use them, we can do it manually, but macros make it less clunky, why is that a problem to you. It's an obvious remedy, or do you need the devs to baby you the entire way through xiv. Legit feels like you're complaining for the sake of complaining. Next you're gonna complain that Salted Earth is too clunky, or Asylum for WHM or Sacred Soil on SCH, because they can be clunky to place without the use of targeting macros. But those have been used since 2.x with Shadowflare also.

Now, at no point did I, in any of my posts in this thread, say Nascent Flash was a trash skill, so calm down and re-read. Someone made a response to my first post and I elaborated on my points, this lead to a further development in discussions, just so you know, thread do not need to stay strict to the OPs topic, tangents can and will happen.

The devs designed Nascent Flash to be inline with Intervention, TBN, HoS, but with a bit of WAR flavor. However, the devs did not foresee that the bloodbath effect would make it superior to RI in most cases.

I've been playing this game for 5 years, I know what imbalance in tanks look like, Paladin in HW, Dark Knight in SB, both avoided like the plague nearly. For once tank toolkits are extremely well balanced, so not wanting to see overpowered skills making a return is having my head in the dirt and being full of myself, okay now that's just hilarious xD

Also joys of the forums I literally do not have to agree with a single word you say, which in this matter I do not, and I am entitled to counter your points, that is the joys of a forum, I can voice my disapproval of your ideas and give my reasons as to why I disagree with your points.

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Originally Posted by Sqwall

Honestly I feel everyone is arguing about the usefulness of the skill versus the clunkyness of the skill.

Remember I play on PS4 with a controller. This can be cumbersome to cycle threw party members and even worse for 8 man raids.

I think we can all agree that the skill could use some QOL to avoid making a macro for it to just simply work. In a game where speed and GCD's matter greatly I fail to see how everyone is ok with how this skill works.

It needs reworked. If MNK get's form shift QOL to refresh stacks then I don't understand the problem for making nascent glint an AOE without having to target. Whats the big deal? Why fight it?

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I personally play with a controller too despite playing on PC, it's more confy for me since I starting playing on PS3 and I never need a macro to use my targeting skills and I really used TBN on my co-tank often without problems on stormblood and now heart of stone.

IDK how much experience you have with the game but what you call clunky it's the daily life of a healer that have to Target his party members constantly to throw single target heals when need it as they push they dps with cast bars all the time, nascent flash usage is fair comfy compared to what our green friends have to do.

The only thing you have to do is push cross down then nascent flash and keep attacking, you can even have a macro for that Wich is a luxury compared to healers that can't have that So no, I don't consider WAR need that QoL at all, it's the slowest job of the game and have the lower apm of the game,it have plenty of time to use nascent flash easily. besides raw intuition it's already in a bad position on the WAR kit and it's comparable to the other tanks skills so they can't buff it to make it better that nascent flash.

And for the rework I have to inform you we are living a expansion With a great healing and mitigation powercreep, healers don't need WAR getting on their role doing they job, an aoe nascent flash its first unnecessary since the amount of healing we have now it's ridiculous and second can be extremely OP under the right circumstances even making healers save some heals so better a big no, WAR don't need more that what they have now, fun come always first yeah but lets not trow the balance out the window either.