My Chocobo is level 10, and it's going to stay there.

Just leaned that I'll need a thavnairian onion to move the level cap up by one every time from now on... At 500K each? No thanks. If I could gather them somewhere, maybe one a week, maybe, but I'm not going to spend ALL my gil just leveling up my bird.

If you have access to a garden, you can grow them. It'd take a couple weeks, and the seeds might cost some gil, but it might be cheaper than 500k a pop.

I'm assuming you don't have a house? If you do grow them yourself from scratch. May take a couple of weeks, but its cheap. Then sell any extras you're not using for $$$. If not I'd ask someone in your FC if they can grow some for you or if you can borrow the FC estates garden for a week or two. Perhaps someone will donate some to you as well.

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

Just leaned that I'll need a thavnairian onion to move the level cap up by one every time from now on... At 500K each? No thanks. If I could gather them somewhere, maybe one a week, maybe, but I'm not going to spend ALL my gil just leveling up my bird.

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Thavnairian Onion seed, require intercrossing which I have tried for a few weeks back in the days, but without luck it is easier just bought the seed

With a house, you can crossbreed the seeds, and grow them.

With an apartment or FC room, you can grow the seeds.


Onion prices skyrocketed thanks to blue mage's XP bonus also counting for your companion. 20-30 minute chocobo levels was good times for onion salespeople.

It's incredibly easy to make gil at the moment due to new expansion. 500k is not hard at all to earn if you put even a tiny bit of effort.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

It's incredibly easy to make gil at the moment due to new expansion. 500k is not hard at all to earn if you put even a tiny bit of effort.

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I've been playing since January, and have 11.8 million. I still use tickets to avoid 300G+ teleport fees (I'm cheap), so I'm not about to spend 500K on bird food, no mater what it gets me.

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I've been playing since January, and have 11.8 million. I still use tickets to avoid 300G+ teleport fees (I'm cheap), so I'm not about to spend 500K on bird food, no mater what it gets me.

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What are you planning to use that gil for then? There really isn't much point in gil. If not for something that is actually going to benefit you, then, what for? I'm genuinely curious.

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What are you planning to use that gil for then? There really isn't much point in gil. If not for something that is actually going to benefit you, then, what for? I'm genuinely curious.

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Agree.. Besides collecting it as a game objective, there's not much else I suppose. I've been gaining about 2 million per month since I started, so I suppose I could afford an onion or two after some world hopping for the best price.
And, I just finished the MSQ, so now I can get back to leveling my gathering and selling the results for a bit more income.

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Agree.. Besides collecting it as a game objective, there's not much else I suppose. I've been gaining about 2 million per month since I started, so I suppose I could afford an onion or two after some world hopping for the best price.
And, I just finished the MSQ, so now I can get back to leveling my gathering and selling the results for a bit more income.

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Crafting gear, crafted raid gear, housing. Only people who played for 2929201 years say "what are you going to use it on" because the already have everything.

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

Just leaned that I'll need a thavnairian onion to move the level cap up by one every time from now on... At 500K each? No thanks. If I could gather them somewhere, maybe one a week, maybe, but I'm not going to spend ALL my gil just leveling up my bird.

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What did you do with the two quest ones from HWs?

There are at least 2 onions you can get from side quests in HW.

Prices on my world were around 200k most of the time. but they did fluctuate and sometimes were as low as 100k. Watch the board.

I've never been up to 11 million. I was hovering around 2 million when my choco was still leveling. It can take several weeks per level, depending on how you play. Like anything in life, it depends on your priorities.

This is a sore point with me. I feel like I'm being penalized because I don't want to spend all my gil on either buying the onions or buying a place to grow them, spending weeks doing it. It has nothing to do with any storyline. If I was playing for free, then sure I'll jump through your hoops, but I pay and although I understand I do this because I want to, I shouldn't be forced into "playing" an aspect of the game that I'm just not interested in, when again it has nothing to do with a storyline. I don't expect to have them just handed to me, but there should be more options for ways to obtain them.

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

Just leaned that I'll need a thavnairian onion to move the level cap up by one every time from now on... At 500K each? No thanks. If I could gather them somewhere, maybe one a week, maybe, but I'm not going to spend ALL my gil just leveling up my bird.

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Edit: I fell for the necro

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This is a sore point with me. I feel like I'm being penalized because I don't want to spend all my gil on either buying the onions or buying a place to grow them, spending weeks doing it. It has nothing to do with any storyline. If I was playing for free, then sure I'll jump through your hoops, but I pay and although I understand I do this because I want to, I shouldn't be forced into "playing" an aspect of the game that I'm just not interested in, when again it has nothing to do with a storyline. I don't expect to have them just handed to me, but there should be more options for ways to obtain them.

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The onions are cheap and you don't even need to bother because the Chocobo if perfectly viable without them.

You should be a long way into the game by the time you need to start using onions on your chocobo.

Also it's been a while since I checked, but the last time I had to buy one it was more like 80,000 gil.

I also think there's a point when you just skyrocket in terms of how much gil you make from things. I came across an early screenshot that (IIRC) indicated I had something like 5 million gil after a year or so playing, but I think I had 30 million after my second year. Something like that, anyway.

You're making more money from base duties, getting bigger bonuses from daily roulettes because of the level gap, acquiring better rare items you can sell. Also you can do treasure map groups and get a lot of gil that way.

Do roulettes when your class is in demand. Get more gil and materia clusters. Sell materia when it's in mad demand at the start of a tier, if you're no rushing into the latest content that needs it.

There are so many things that you can do to get gil while engaging in the main gameplay, not spending your time on niche content like gardening.

Maybe lucky but I made all mine pretty quickly, giving them to quite a few others for FC mates.. was even able to give a few out during the blue mage exp bug/buff thing.

Might sound like a silly flex I suppose but I just mean that sincerely as "if you can, make them yourself- with patience it's not that bad". Not everyone can though, if you can't then.. yeah 'oof'. Also I think ideally, under a more exciting system the issue wouldn't exist in the first place, they're clearly there to act as a grind wall and some other content could have been more interesting/fun (so I'm not saying 'it's not that bad, be happy' just.. if you have patience and a garden, go that route).

Really hope SE does something with chocobo content again, could use some loving. .

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Originally Posted by Pandemonium1960

This is a sore point with me. I feel like I'm being penalized because I don't want to spend all my gil on either buying the onions or buying a place to grow them, spending weeks doing it. It has nothing to do with any storyline. If I was playing for free, then sure I'll jump through your hoops, but I pay and although I understand I do this because I want to, I shouldn't be forced into "playing" an aspect of the game that I'm just not interested in, when again it has nothing to do with a storyline. I don't expect to have them just handed to me, but there should be more options for ways to obtain them.

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FWIW, you don't have to own the house. You can use your FC house if they have one or a friend who owns a house could grant you guest status with gardening access.

Also, just to be clear, when you spend a couple of weeks gardening for onions you don't just get one onion, you get multiple onions. You can get all of the onions you need quite easily with about 2-3 weeks of work depending on how many plots you have access to. Another tip is you can save your plot space for crossbreeding and as you get the onion seeds you can use your indoor pots to grow them while still using the plot outdoors for the crossbreeding to get more onion seeds.

In the 3 weeks I spent gardening onions I got 13 of them. I kept 8 for myself and sold the rest.

What server are you on where they cost 500k? I can't sell mine for 100k to save my life.

... oh, you're in the past. Carry on.

I love to grow these onions from scratch using the 'costs me absolutely zero gil' method. You need a ton of resources though. The soils alone will set you back tons if you buy them. What's kind of a bummer about the onions is that you can't perpetuate their yield because they don't cross with themselves, but this is understandable.

Growing them cost free is a huge time investment within itself before you can even get started, so it is definitely easier to just buy the packets and grow them in some pots in your apartment, FC room, or home. I have seen some cases though where the packets cost more than the damn onion, which is really really stupid. It takes 10 Earth days to grow the onions.

Anywho, good luck with whatever you decide. Max level bird is not required, but sure does help.

well, onion take like a month to growth, so 500k is not too expensive

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There are at least 2 onions you can get from side quests in HW.

Prices on my world were around 200k most of the time. but they did fluctuate and sometimes were as low as 100k. Watch the board.

I've never been up to 11 million. I was hovering around 2 million when my choco was still leveling. It can take several weeks per level, depending on how you play. Like anything in life, it depends on your priorities.

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Hello past me. I'm currently sitting at around 11 million. You can only use one onion at a time so just get one and don't worry about the next until you get the next level (rank, sorry). You'll be done before you know it.

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Hello past me. I'm currently sitting at around 11 million. You can only use one onion at a time so just get one and don't worry about the next until you get the next level. You'll be done before you know it.

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As i sip my morning coffee, this amused me.

Also my chocobo is only rank 8. Im stunned (as a newish player) how long it takes to level up a combat chocobo. Where can i get the free onions from side quests . And how long at the onion required to level does it take to fill the exp bar? My low ranks take me an age

the further along you get in choco buddy rank the more and more the weekly challenge log bonus will be beneficial.

i keep forgetting about the challenge log. I switch up my jobs a lot and level them up when i get a bit burnt out from MSQing ( im currently at the post SB chain when the strange voices are being heard) so i forget to target challenges. I get the easy ones done just by default as they are simple kill x amounts of and they just happen and pop up just by doing my msq. I still have class hunt logs to complete too.

Ill have to target more to get bigger chocobo exp. Thanks for the reminder

Yeah, the weekly challenge log is the only sane way to level up your chocobo past level 10.

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Also my chocobo is only rank 8. Im stunned (as a newish player) how long it takes to level up a combat chocobo. Where can i get the free onions from side quests . And how long at the onion required to level does it take to fill the exp bar? My low ranks take me an age

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Don't fret about how long it takes to level up. It's only of those things where you'll just get there in time as you play.

One of the quests is "Landing a Stable Job" from the Ishgard marketplace, the other is from Tailfeather after completing some other quests to unlock it.

http://garlandtools.org/db/#quest/67462

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i keep forgetting about the challenge log. I switch up my jobs a lot and level them up when i get a bit burnt out from MSQing ( im currently at the post SB chain when the strange voices are being heard) so i forget to target challenges. I get the easy ones done just by default as they are simple kill x amounts of and they just happen and pop up just by doing my msq. I still have class hunt logs to complete too.

Ill have to target more to get bigger chocobo exp. Thanks for the reminder

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Don't fret about how long it takes to level up. It's only of those things where you'll just get there in time as you play.

One of the quests is "Landing a Stable Job" from the Ishgard marketplace, the other is from Tailfeather after completing some other quests to unlock it.

http://garlandtools.org/db/#quest/67462

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What she said. Rememeber your choco is always your level, which is different from the ranks you are trying to gain (I often make that mistake). As you get higher in level you get more experience, assuming you a killing things closer to your level.

FATE mobs give you about half the exp as "wild" mobs, but since there is an advantage to grinding FATEs in Shadowbringers that might not be a bad idea.

When Blue Mage first came out your choco would get a huge boost to exp. They nerfed it quickly but I think around 50 as blu was still better than 70 as something else. I don't know about 60 blu vs 80.

Anyway, setting out to level your choco can get boring fast. Just keep your Choco out and alive whenever you can and it will come.

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

Just leaned that I'll need a thavnairian onion to move the level cap up by one every time from now on... At 500K each? No thanks. If I could gather them somewhere, maybe one a week, maybe, but I'm not going to spend ALL my gil just leveling up my bird.

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Join an FC?

We give them out for free to anyone who asks.

I just checked and they're going for around 160K on Cerberus. That seems pretty reasonable to me as it isn't a huge amount of gil. If people need tips for making gil, they need only ask and I'm sure many posters will be happy to share tips and advice.

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

Just leaned that I'll need a thavnairian onion to move the level cap up by one every time from now on... At 500K each? No thanks. If I could gather them somewhere, maybe one a week, maybe, but I'm not going to spend ALL my gil just leveling up my bird.

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Learn how to grow them, put time into doing so. Grow a ton of them, sell spares, get profit.

Also check other servers on your DC, might not be 500k everywhere.

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Originally Posted by Melichoir

Learn how to grow them, put time into doing so. Grow a ton of them, sell spares, get profit.

Also check other servers on your DC, might not be 500k everywhere.

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150k on mine, I just bought 2 myself.

The market on onions crashed hard last I checked. I was growing and selling them for a bit when they were 500k, but last time I checked they were only like 100k.

But yeah, weekly challenge bonus exp is the best. I would make a point of going out and farming some fates to thirtyish minutes for a quick and easy hundred kills. Then just try and train them in the stable as often as I could.

Did you not get the two free ones from HW side quests? I think one is tied to a msq or aether current quests. All of the FCs I've been apart of will grow them and let members get one for half the going price. Did you go check other servers on your data center?

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

Just leaned that I'll need a thavnairian onion to move the level cap up by one every time from now on... At 500K each? No thanks. If I could gather them somewhere, maybe one a week, maybe, but I'm not going to spend ALL my gil just leveling up my bird.

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there are two quests that give out the onions, one for your bird, one to sell.

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there are two quests that give out the onions, one for your bird, one to sell.

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But you're going to need ten onions over the course of levelling your bird...

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But you're going to need ten onions over the course of levelling your bird...

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True, but they are stuck on level 10, to obtain more onions is quite easy, just not as easy as two quick quests.

step 2, getting more onions. If you have no access to a house with a garden. Then go get an Apartment for 500k, every housing community has them, and there are plenty of them.

from reddit:

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Thavnairian Onion seeds can be planted alone, giving you the option to grow them indoors, saving you a garden bed for more crossing. You can place 2-4 planting pots in each home (Apartment/FC room=2, Small=2, Medium=3, Large=4). So if you're obtaining a lot of Thavnairian Onion Seeds, then you'll need more space!

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get seeds and pots, grow your own onions. takes time, but it's cost-effective and easy. Just takes time.

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

Just leaned that I'll need a thavnairian onion to move the level cap up by one every time from now on... At 500K each? No thanks. If I could gather them somewhere, maybe one a week, maybe, but I'm not going to spend ALL my gil just leveling up my bird.

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Ah, my sweet summer child. I ranked mine up to level 20 in ARR when they were 1.5-2mil each, 500k isn't very expensive at all.

Why did we necro this again?