I want my voice!

When we first make our character; we get the option to select our voice.

Then as we play the game, all we get to hear our voice beeing used to do, is scream in fights.

Why even give us a voice if we cant actually get to hear it, even if only in a few select CS, or similar? It really boggles my mind as to why SE would even give us that option during char.creation when throughout the entiretly of the game, we never ever actually use it to actually speak. It seems to me it would be alot easier to just remove that bit in char. creation to start with then.

Are you going to pay each and every actor their dues to voice every cutscene they decide to voice, every grunt, every yell, every dialogue choice? Lets see there are about 8 voice options in the game, per sex, not counting the switches that might occur between a few races, so that 16 voices. There are 4 languages that the game is made in/for, so that number raises to 64. Thats a lot of people to pay for doing some a few cutscenes here and there. It's just easier to get a few people, possibly even some of the dev staff, to do a few groans and grunts for our character.

not gonna happen. Character voices are the same across all 4 language versions, and I assume that most, if not all, were done by Japanese (there are a few well known voice actors amongst them, like voice 1 for female Roes & Higlanders is Yuu Kobayashi, and voice 3 for female Miqo'te is Yukari Tamura for example)
Also we never got any new voiced emotes, so it's entirely possible that some of those actors are no longer available for some reason or another

See: Silent Protagonist.

How often do we even have anything worth saying, versus how often we just stand around and let everyone else do the talking?

im pretty content with Au'ra voice 5 and Cats voice 7
pretty much what id picture them with

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Originally Posted by Eloah

Are you going to pay each and every actor their dues to voice every cutscene they decide to voice, every grunt, every yell, every dialogue choice? Lets see there are about 8 voice options in the game, per sex, not counting the switches that might occur between a few races, so that 16 voices. There are 4 languages that the game is made in/for, so that number raises to 64. Thats a lot of people to pay for doing some a few cutscenes here and there. It's just easier to get a few people, possibly even some of the dev staff, to do a few groans and grunts for our character.

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i already do via my paying for the entire game through my sub.
I dont care who SE pays or not for it, I'd rather have a hearable voice in some (not even all) CS, or that they just remove the option entirely.

Not difficulty to solve. Just put 4 actors for warrior of light male voice on the 4 languages and do the same with the female, so we got 4 actress. And then we use the voice option on game just for emotes. And people need to stop saying ''not gonna happen'' for good idead and things that be a must on every RPG. Bye.

Of course it would be great to have some voices in the cutscenes, but obviously this isn't practical without greatly reducing the number of voices, and I personally wouldn't want the 'customisation' to be restricted anymore than it already is.

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Originally Posted by SinSiew79

i already do via my paying for the entire game through my sub.

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You don't really get to decide where your sub money is going to, it's simply used to develop FFXIV and other SE games.

If they were to decide to add voice lines for the player character, that'd take resources away from actual content, since resources (both money, and time) are finite.

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

You don't really get to decide where your sub money is going to, it's simply used to develop FFXIV and other SE games.

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exactly, just as you dont know what your sub money goes to, neither do I, but im pretty sure that SE can afford to pay their VAs.

I'd rather just get the option to preview my combat grunts and yells at character creation. I picked a voice I liked and was aghast when I started leveling bard to hear how...bad the combat voice was.

I think it could happen if the game was only dubbed in japanese. I think about the game Saints row where we can pick a voice and it is voice acted entire game, but a game where we need 4 voices for each character, well...

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Originally Posted by SinSiew79

exactly, just as you dont know what your sub money goes to, neither do I, but im pretty sure that SE can afford to pay their VAs.

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Way to ignore the second half of my post.

What content would you be willing to give up for voice lines?

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Originally Posted by SinSiew79

i already do via my paying for the entire game through my sub.
I dont care who SE pays or not for it, I'd rather have a hearable voice in some (not even all) CS, or that they just remove the option entirely.

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This is a double edged sword, since you say you don't care, but we all know if it happens you and the entire player base will. How many people have you heard, this person sucked, why did they pick them, the other guy was better, this language is better. It's all the same language is language, and while admittedly some people perform better than others, it's your knowledge or lack of knowledge that makes something "cool". A lot of "English" speakers like to use Asian character/words cause they think it's cool, its really not; likewise a lot of Asian speakers like to use English words cause they think its cool; why do you think the spells are literally called Fire, Blizzard, Thunder, Protect, Care(Cure)?

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Originally Posted by SinSiew79

exactly, just as you dont know what your sub money goes to, neither do I, but im pretty sure that SE can afford to pay their VAs.

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Unlike in America, where we pay out VA's a pittance, they deserve better quite honestly, Voice Acting in Japan is a big industry. So basically, it's can you afford Scarlett Johansson and Robert Downey Jr. or Tara Strong and John DiMaggio, who are two big named American VA's but would get a fraction of the pay for 4x the work. Now I am no expert so I won't make like it's bad for full on American VAs but for Anime Dubbers, it is far worse.

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Originally Posted by The_Promised

Not difficulty to solve. Just put 4 actors for warrior of light male voice on the 4 languages and do the same with the female, so we got 4 actress. And then we use the voice option on game just for emotes. And people need to stop saying ''not gonna happen'' for good idead and things that be a must on every RPG. Bye.

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Ha you funny. Sure lets do that, and watch the torches and pitchfork rise up. And I wouldn't say voices need to be on every RPG. Granted we've become accustom to them, but there are plenty o games that thrive on the bare minimum. I haven't played it, but Breath of the Wilds is the first Zelda game with a full voice cast, Link aside, and the Zelda franchise is usually labelled the number 1 franchise among video games. And it did all of that with little to nw voices.

I agree, that it is really irritating when in a cutscene the other characters have voices but ours is just moving their mouth. Would love to have a voice :o

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Originally Posted by Ayasaki128

I think it could happen if the game was only dubbed in japanese. I think about the game Saints row where we can pick a voice and it is voice acted entire game, but a game where we need 4 voices for each character, well...

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Math is a bit off. 4 languages, 2 genders. Unless you want to pick out a very ambiguous voice that could go either way.

Actually, nah, let's go with one VA per language. But instead, let's make sure it's a voice wholly unsuited to every character. Is Richard Simmons available?

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

Way to ignore the second half of my post.

What content would you be willing to give up for voice lines?

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the same shitty grunts I've been getting all this time. Im pretty sure SE can afford it if they want to.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

So basically, it's can you afford Scarlett Johansson and Robert Downey Jr. or Tara Strong and John DiMaggio, who are two big named American VA's but would get a fraction of the pay for 4x the work.

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Why would I want hollywood actors in a japanese game? I'd much rather have someone from the 'world of VAs in games'who knows how to do game VA then *insert hollywood celeb whos totally unsuited for it* to do the job. And I'm talking about paying them the same wages as what the VA for Merlwyb, Alphie et. co gets paid, presuming its a fair pay. (I have no clue, I dont check these things)

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Originally Posted by SinSiew79

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And point was missed.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Math is a bit off. 4 languages, 2 genders. Unless you want to pick out a very ambiguous voice that could go either way.

Actually, nah, let's go with one VA per language. But instead, let's make sure it's a voice wholly unsuited to every character. Is Richard Simmons available?

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Yeah, 8, but the point still the same.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

And point was missed.

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For you too, so feel free to leave anytime, bye ;)

Eloah thats complete Rubbish... they are allready paying their employees so they might aswell ask them to help record when they are not doing something and even pay them a little extra if they are doing it outside of their time.
I wouldn't mind paying 1$ a month more. Cuss lets admit... if their hours were realy that expensive then why only charge what they are charging us now?.... Lets admit... large amounts of customers usualy cover expenses.
It's up to SE to make them feel like they are realy inside of a fantasy world and the only way of making it feel real is by using real voices :D

As long as it’s this guy who voices my character and all the female characters too

https://youtu.be/ZB_hAVZLKE8

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Originally Posted by SinSiew79

For you too, so feel free to leave anytime, bye ;)

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I think it's very clear that because this thread has traction that your point was not missed, but it's also clear that you aren't being realistic. SE like any company has a budget and must try use that budget to make efficiency. And as the game gains traction and popularity, they will continue to increase the budget, but with that increase it will go towards resources that will procure them more money, like advertisements, more developers, resources, etc.

But, I grow tired of this dance, so I think I will stop posting.

Oh and the next time someone says you missed their point, regardless of how they express it themselves, don't be rude in return. I simply said you missed the point of my statement, not that you should leave the thread, which comes across as juvenile.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

I think it's very clear that because this thread has traction that your point was not missed, but it's also clear that you aren't being realistic. SE like any company has a budget and must try use that budget to make efficiency. And as the game gains traction and popularity, they will continue to increase the budget, but with that increase it will go towards resources that will procure them more money, like advertisements, more developers, resources, etc.

But, I grow tired of this dance, so I think I will stop posting.

Oh and the next time someone says you missed their point, regardless of how they express it themselves, don't be rude in return. I simply said you missed the point of my statement, not that you should leave the thread, which comes across as juvenile.

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To be fair, I did find you rude first, so yes, lets stop dancing.

There is a LOT more work that would have to go into voice acting our characters for cutscenes then just having people come in and say the words.

The words don't exist to be said. We'd have to write the dialogue, for every cutscene, for each language, with some tweaks depending on the words you choose to say in quests.

We'd have to edit the cutscenes to match the length of the new dialogue, since right now, the scenes with our character speaking are too short to accommodate actual dialogue.

This is a lot of work. It is not nearly as simple as some of you are making it out to be. I wouldn't say no to it, but there's a lot of reasons why it probably will never be implemented.

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Originally Posted by SXTC

Eloah thats complete Rubbish... they are allready paying their employees so they might aswell ask them to help record when they are not doing something and even pay them a little extra if they are doing it outside of their time.

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Voice actors do not sit around at SE on the clock. They come in for a specified contract with a company, record, then move on to another company or project.

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Originally Posted by SinSiew79

the same shitty grunts I've been getting all this time. Im pretty sure SE can afford it if they want to.

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Are you even reading? Adding voice lines takes resources (time/money) that'd otherwise be spent on developing something else.

Again, what content (dungeons, raids, etc.) would you be willing to give up so you'd be able to hear your character talk in cutscenes?

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

Are you even reading? Adding voice lines takes resources (time/money) that'd otherwise be spent on developing something else.

Again, what content (dungeons, raids, etc.) would you be willing to give up so you'd be able to hear your character talk in cutscenes?

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Clearly as little as you are reading: P I'm pretty sure SE has the money needed to VA our char for a few major CSs throughout the entirety of the game. You seem to think SE is bordering on broke and that EVERYTHING will cost someones firstborn, their grandma and her teeth!

Who says it has to be one or the other? why cant it be both? And frankly I'd personally, just for me and my gameplay give up PVP in a heartbeat for that.

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Originally Posted by SinSiew79

Clearly as little as you are reading: P I'm pretty sure SE has the money needed to VA our char for a few major CSs throughout the entirety of the game. You seem to think SE is bordering on broke and that EVERYTHING will cost someones firstborn, their grandma and her teeth!

Who says it has to be one or the other? why cant it be both? And frankly I'd personally, just for me and my gameplay give up PVP in a heartbeat for that.

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So you're absolutely clueless about game development. I never said SE is bordering on broke, but it's still a company. Companies care about profit, and having to spend more on development cuts into that profit.
Then again, money was half the resources I mentioned, since I also mentioned time (as in, the time it takes to develop something).

Read Elamys' post, you can't just invite some voice actors over to create lines, and then just drop them into the game. This dialogue has to be written from scratch, fitted into the cutscene, translated to multiple languages, and the voice acting has to be changed to fit with every voice of every race.

To put the last into perspective, each race has 12 male and 12 female voices, at a total of 144 voices (midlanders and highlanders each having their own set), although there's some overlap in voices, so let's say 120 unique voices. These would all have to be voiced in Japanese, English, French and German. Since each patch has some cutscenes with voice acting, that's something they'd have to do every 3.5 months.

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

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yes, and taking ALL that into account, even so I still think SE can afford it. You still seem to think this is far too expensive. Your probably right, but i still dont care. This is a suggestion from me, as to what *I* would like added in the game instead of glamourplates, Eureka or anything else. I have answered and we are never gonna agree, so you might as well stop. I know I will after this post.

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Originally Posted by Elamys

There is a LOT more work that would have to go into voice acting our characters for cutscenes then just having people come in and say the words.

The words don't exist to be said. We'd have to write the dialogue, for every cutscene, for each language, with some tweaks depending on the words you choose to say in quests.

We'd have to edit the cutscenes to match the length of the new dialogue, since right now, the scenes with our character speaking are too short to accommodate actual dialogue.

This is a lot of work. It is not nearly as simple as some of you are making it out to be. I wouldn't say no to it, but there's a lot of reasons why it probably will never be implemented.



Voice actors do not sit around at SE on the clock. They come in for a specified contract with a company, record, then move on to another company or project.

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Oh I'm sorry, I did not realise you need to be an actress before you can use your voice...

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Originally Posted by The_Promised

And people need to stop saying ''not gonna happen'' for good idead and things that be a must on every RPG. Bye.

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But this isn't an RPG, it's an MMORPG. There's some big differences in these.
B-bye?

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Originally Posted by SXTC

Oh I'm sorry, I did not realise you need to be an actress before you can use your voice...

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How on earth does that even relate to what I'm saying?

Voice acting is a skill, and voice actors and actresses are...well...actors and actresses, that use their voices specifically. Sure SE can grab any random person that walks past and give them 5 bucks to say a bunch of random dialogue lines that got cobbled together, but it's not going to sound natural, it's not going to sound good. Not everyone can voice act. I know I can't.

Can you sound frightened without actually being scared? Can you cry convincingly without actually being sad? Can you do a battle yell? Can you adopt an accent if it was decided the character needed one and have it sound natural? And moreover, can you do all this while sitting inside a plain room with a microphone? Most people can't.

Bring Norio Wakamoto or Guilherme Briggs to dub every player and problem fixed. (No, seriously, this post remind me a FFXI commercial where all characters was dubbed by Norio Wakamoto)

But talking serious, what Elamys said is correct, it's not JUST using voice and done. Need a lot of skill, lessons to dub something properly. For example, the reason I know these 2 names above is because they are very skilled voice actors.

Using someone skills cost money, FFXIV Dev team should think carefully in what and how much they spend in the content. I really like the ideia of our characters having voice, but the reality of how much it cost could be a problem for the game in general and if they dont do it, they have a good reason for it. By myself I defend all the cutscenes, all the quests should be dubbed because I really like the voice acting of this game (I hear it in japanese), this is why I even make a suggestion about it a time ago. But if it is something that could hinder other content like main story devlopment, Hildibrand, Support Team, new content release and etc. Ok, I understand that's not possible and perhaps could be more possible in the future with more cutscenes being dubbed.

lol copying someone's voice completely only takes me 5 minutes to practice. I don't think I'm exceptional. I think most people here can achieve such a feat in a small amount of time if they feel like it.
Don't make it sound like voice acting is something you have to go to school for cuss thats like saying all humans are unevolved.

Voice idea, Great idea!
If you disagree, you clearly stated that allready.
Leave it at that please. No matter if you agree with me or not, this topic isn't mine and you won't be able to sway me from agreeing.

lmao wow okay. Have fun in your little dense hole.

Since you're obviously such an incredibly talented voice actor as to be able to voice act on a professional level within 5 minutes of practice, why not submit your resume or audition for a movie? That'll go over well.

Why be so rude?