FFXIV 2.0 + Prestory

Some may disagree other may agree. Some if not all of the current player base remembers WOTG for FFXi. Now in that expansion you can go back to the past before the present time.
Now lets look at FFXIV 2.0 and lets look at the current FFXIV. Here is a rare opportunity that Square Enix has on there hands. Once FFXIV 2.0 is released, in stead of SE abandoning the current story they could add it in as the pre-story. Basicly those of us who have done it wouldnt have to worry about doing it again, but new players would get to experience FFXIV 2.0 in the present world and past world before meteor strikes. Now se could upgrade this pre-story to have all the current improvements that 2.0 will have.

Nah I like it how they have it now.

WE NOW are a part of history.WE get to say we've done stuff that others haven't.

Everyone should die, become part of the lore and then be reborn (with the same stats of course).

No going back. History is history.

I hope everyone who decides to start playing in 2.0 dread themselves with envy for missing out on the immaculate experience that was pre2.0 FFXIV.

Suckers!

I don't think anyone would want to play pre 2.0, the game has barely any content anyway.

How cool would it be in 2.0 if that nifty echo ability was used by new players to travel back in time to a hamlet defence battle that we - the current players - are going to experience or something else like that, maybe even being placed in a recorded situation of a RL players taking part in some form of (epic) battle, as that way, the new players are not actively taking part in the pre-story, but they can see what we went through.

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Originally Posted by Kidkaze

How cool would it be in 2.0 if that nifty echo ability was used by new players to travel back in time to a hamlet defence battle that we - the current players - are going to experience or something else like that, maybe even being placed in a recorded situation of a RL players taking part in some form of (epic) battle, as that way, the new players are not actively taking part in the pre-story, but they can see what we went through.

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Or you could use the echo on players and see the epic things they did pre-2.0 watch snipits of us killing ifrit, moogle, garuda halmlet defence, just make it look awesome and all the new players think "dammmnnn why did I have to quit after the first month.

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Originally Posted by Kidkaze

How cool would it be in 2.0 if that nifty echo ability was used by new players to travel back in time to a hamlet defence battle that we - the current players - are going to experience or something else like that, maybe even being placed in a recorded situation of a RL players taking part in some form of (epic) battle, as that way, the new players are not actively taking part in the pre-story, but they can see what we went through.

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Or you could use the echo on players and see the epic things they did pre-2.0 watch snipits of us killing ifrit, moogle, garuda halmlet defence, just make it look awesome and all the new players think "dammmnnn why did I have to quit after the first month.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

Or you could use the echo on players and see the epic things they did pre-2.0 watch snipits of us killing ifrit, moogle, garuda halmlet defence, just make it look awesome and all the new players think "dammmnnn why did I have to quit after the first month.

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Haha! We could totally have them fooled into thinking this game used to be good! Excellent idea! +1'd

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Originally Posted by Delsus

Or you could use the echo on players and see the epic things they did pre-2.0 watch snipits of us killing ifrit, moogle, garuda halmlet defence, just make it look awesome and all the new players think "dammmnnn why did I have to quit after the first month.

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That would be neat, being able to use the echo on other players (and ourselves) to rewatch the things they've or we've done in the past.

Especially if we could see our character standing off to the side watching themselves go through a cutscene. And then, if someone echoed us while we were echoing ourselves...

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Originally Posted by Delsus

Or you could use the echo on players and see the epic things they did pre-2.0 watch snipits of us killing ifrit, moogle, garuda halmlet defence, just make it look awesome and all the new players think "dammmnnn why did I have to quit after the first month.

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This is exactly what I meant, I just didn't word it as well you did, partly because I had just woken up, and partly because I r dumb.

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Originally Posted by normalforce

That would be neat, being able to use the echo on other players (and ourselves) to rewatch the things they've or we've done in the past.

Especially if we could see our character standing off to the side watching themselves go through a cutscene. And then, if someone echoed us while we were echoing ourselves...

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tWqvsW7WRl...HOTOS%5D+2.jpg
Please keep on going, I'm listening.

Anyway, I'm highly supporting Delsus' idea, and hope for the Dev team to work on it in a distant future =)

I hope 2.0 makes at the very least subtle throwbacks or references only the people who hung in there will notice. Would be kind of cool to hear an NPC say, you new adventurers have it easy, I remember grinding coerthas raptors for 12 hours to get a GODDAMNED PHYSICAL LEVEL!

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Originally Posted by Maxthunder

Some may disagree other may agree. Some if not all of the current player base remembers WOTG for FFXi. Now in that expansion you can go back to the past before the present time.
Now lets look at FFXIV 2.0 and lets look at the current FFXIV. Here is a rare opportunity that Square Enix has on there hands. Once FFXIV 2.0 is released, in stead of SE abandoning the current story they could add it in as the pre-story. Basicly those of us who have done it wouldnt have to worry about doing it again, but new players would get to experience FFXIV 2.0 in the present world and past world before meteor strikes. Now se could upgrade this pre-story to have all the current improvements that 2.0 will have.

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WotG was and is a complete failure. I do not see SE repeating that mistake.

I think you're looking at playing pre-2.0 the wrong way.

See, we should look at it as a dark time in our lives. Y'know, like slavery, concentration camps, those kinds of things. When 2.0 comes, we should tell people our horror stories about what we went through pre-2.0.

People will shudder and cry when they hear "Pre-v2.0", as they should.

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Originally Posted by Rizon

WotG was and is a complete failure. I do not see SE repeating that mistake.

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WOTG was a camplete failure due to SE not really supporting it. There is things that could have been done to expand the world there. There was so much that could have been expanded on but thats SE for you.

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Originally Posted by Rizon

WotG was and is a complete failure. I do not see SE repeating that mistake.

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Lol, a failure...? How was WoTG a failure? Or were you one of those players who didn't know how to play the game nor had any friends in order to complete the storyline, or do any of the side events? Or one of the players who didn't actually play during WoTG or considered going into the past and alternate dimension a cop out?

Using your logic, CoP and ToAU were failures as well.

The only issue was SE was working on FFXIV during WoTG's lifespan, which slowed down story implementation.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Everyone should die, become part of the lore and then be reborn (with the same stats of course).

No going back. History is history.

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I totally can't tell if you're joking or not, but it sounds like a good idea for some reason o.O Like, if meteor struck us down and killed everyone..then some unknown force brought us back, and we had to rebuild the new world or something (which would be the new eorzea of 2.0), and then our goal would be to take revenge on our killer..?

It's a rough idea, but SE could turn it into something epic!!

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Originally Posted by CrystalObsidian

I totally can't tell if you're joking or not, but it sounds like a good idea for some reason o.O Like, if meteor struck us down and killed everyone..then some unknown force brought us back, and we had to rebuild the new world or something (which would be the new eorzea of 2.0), and then our goal would be to take revenge on our killer..?

It's a rough idea, but SE could turn it into something epic!!

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I like it. How about...

In the last hours leading up to the cataclysm, the Primals call forth all manner of beast which flood the land and invade the cities. Wave after wave of defenders fail, pushing everyone back to the main aetheryte crystal in the game. The Garleans watch in dismay from the sky as the land is overrun and call forth Meteor to cleanse Eorzea of this blight.

Our deaths, and subsequent resurrection by the Twelve, throws us into v2.0, and the Seventh Umbral Era. And no one remembers what happened except those with the power of the echo and, of course, the Garlean Empire.

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Originally Posted by CrystalObsidian

I totally can't tell if you're joking or not, but it sounds like a good idea for some reason o.O Like, if meteor struck us down and killed everyone..then some unknown force brought us back, and we had to rebuild the new world or something (which would be the new eorzea of 2.0), and then our goal would be to take revenge on our killer..?

It's a rough idea, but SE could turn it into something epic!!

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Lol sounds like the matrix with the machines destroying xion then the one must choose some people from the matrix to rebuild xion so the war can continue and it gets stuck in a cycle for war, find the one, destroy xion, rebuild, war, destroy etc etc.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Lol, a failure...? How was WoTG a failure? Or were you one of those players who didn't know how to play the game nor had any friends in order to complete the storyline, or do any of the side events? Or one of the players who didn't actually play during WoTG or considered going into the past and alternate dimension a cop out?

Using your logic, CoP and ToAU were failures as well.

The only issue was SE was working on FFXIV during WoTG's lifespan, which slowed down story implementation.

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This is the type of response I would expect from someone who doesn't have a legitimate response. I am proud of the accomplishment I made in FFXI. For your information I have taken 13 jobs to the highest levels and know how to use them. I have completed virtually all the missions, expansions <WotG excluded>and mini expansions and for the longest time held the highest rank in WotG. I have participated in over 90% of the end game content and have been part of the winning team multiple time . As for friends I have been playing with the same core group of 20 people for the last 4 years and still do. We have fun. Most of them have not completed the WotG missions for the same reason as me. The entire concept of the expansion was repetitive and boring

The only part of your response I find valid is that SE did not suppot it for whatever reasons.

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Originally Posted by Rizon

This is the type of response I would expect from someone who doesn't have a legitimate response. I am proud of the accomplishment I made in FFXI. For your information I have taken 13 jobs to the highest levels and know how to use them. I have completed virtually all the missions, expansions <WotG excluded>and mini expansions and for the longest time held the highest rank in WotG. I have participated in over 90% of the end game content and have been part of the winning team multiple time . As for friends I have been playing with the same core group of 20 people for the last 4 years and still do. We have fun. Most of them have not completed the WotG missions for the same reason as me. The entire concept of the expansion was repetitive and boring

The only part of your response I find valid is that SE did not suppot it for whatever reasons.

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Your reason is invalid for not doing missions, you do them to continue the story and get the reward items (alot of which in WotG are useful) I never completed it because I couldnt find people to do it.

If WotG was a failure then why could would you struggle past the 30s when everyone was expin in east ronf [S], a failure means hardly anyone bought it, when everyone had it because it was some of the best mid lvl exp and the best high level solo exp everyone used to rebuffer after huge exp loss events.

It was not a failure you just didnt enjoy it.

Topic: They could do something with the echo, but honestly, the prestory (Umbral era one?) settles just fine -- When they mentioned 2.0 in interviews I believe they said most important people and locations and etc will still exist, so yeah.

Re: WoTG failure: I don't see how it was a failure, the only people who disliked it were the ones who only cared about gear, which it lacked an end-game in the style of Zilart or CoP. It was no secret that they were working on FFXIV during 2007-2009 given the lull in actual content additions at that period, but to say it was a failure is a bit much -- It had the best cinematography out of all expansions, it also gave you the backstory on many events in this game that people did have questions about that couldn't buy/read the Japanese lore book released.

If any expansion was a failure it would be the first 3 add-ons if you didn't care for the story or the gear.

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Originally Posted by normalforce

I like it. How about...

In the last hours leading up to the cataclysm, the Primals call forth all manner of beast which flood the land and invade the cities. Wave after wave of defenders fail, pushing everyone back to the main aetheryte crystal in the game. The Garleans watch in dismay from the sky as the land is overrun and call forth Meteor to cleanse Eorzea of this blight.

Our deaths, and subsequent resurrection by the Twelve, throws us into v2.0, and the Seventh Umbral Era. And no one remembers what happened except those with the power of the echo and, of course, the Garlean Empire.

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Yeahhh I like the whole "Primals destroying everything" idea, and then having to destroy them with Meteor..
And the echo would play a good part in remembering the event, and tell the players who would need to be punished (which would be the Garleans as you mentioned).

Hmm perhaps after the events, then the Primal souls/spirits whatever will still be around, and you'd be able to summon those for your own benefits. (I know SE already has a plan for summoning, just another thought)

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Originally Posted by CrystalObsidian

Yeahhh I like the whole "Primals destroying everything" idea, and then having to destroy them with Meteor..
And the echo would play a good part in remembering the event, and tell the players who would need to be punished (which would be the Garleans as you mentioned).

Hmm perhaps after the events, then the Primal souls/spirits whatever will still be around, and you'd be able to summon those for your own benefits. (I know SE already has a plan for summoning, just another thought)

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Some nice ideas here, hope they get collated and passed to the devs when the reps get back.