Regarding the Cherry Tree, Thank You

Thank you, SE, for finally putting the Eastern Cherry Tree on the Mog Station. I don't own a house myself and so cannot use it, but I'm glad to see it up there as it is one of my favorite yard furnishings and I love seeing them. Also, thank you for adding them at a reasonable price. $5 each is very fair.

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Originally Posted by Vexander

Thank you, SE, for finally putting the Eastern Cherry Tree on the Mog Station. I don't own a house myself and so cannot use it, but I'm glad to see it up there as it is one of my favorite yard furnishings and I love seeing them. Also, thank you for adding them at a reasonable price. $5 each is very fair.

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While I agreed with your statement that having an option to purchase the cherry tree is a good thing, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic with the final sentence. Since you said you don't own a house, I can tell you that it's easy to come up with a good looking yard design that can utilized anything from one to five cherry trees easily, and maybe eight to ten on a large mansion. By no means it's necessary, but surely you can tell how quickly the bill can add up. Don't get me wrong, I can easily buy a bunch of them with the amount of money I usually spend on drinks, but I simply disagree that the pricing is fair.

I think $5 would be fine if you could also buy them from the Salvage, like one in your mail box and then you can buy more for like 50K to 200K (the price that beastmen tribe items cost). If it does, then cool :3

But uh 5 each? Good lord lol, people would easily want to put more than one tree in their Asian themed housing (like 5 easily). Maybe even if it was bundled haha. It's cool they made the item available again, as I'm sure it was /highly/ desired, but I'd have to agree with SokiYagami that I'm not sure that $5 each is a great price :P.

Am I the only one thinking RMT with that ?
People are probably gonna buy the tree to re-sell on the marketboard ^^"

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Originally Posted by SokiYagami

While I agreed with your statement that having an option to purchase the cherry tree is a good thing, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic with the final sentence. Since you said you don't own a house, I can tell you that it's easy to come up with a good looking yard design that can utilized anything from one to five cherry trees easily, and maybe eight to ten on a large mansion. By no means it's necessary, but surely you can tell how quickly the bill can add up. Don't get me wrong, I can easily buy a bunch of them with the amount of money I usually spend on drinks, but I simply disagree that the pricing is fair.

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I remember old threads discussing the tree how people said it'd probably be no less than $15 a tree, given other yard furnishings on the Mog Station and such. As others have said, buying the tree and selling it on the MB will make it available to others without having to spend money if they don't want to. Overall, $5 strikes me as fair.

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Originally Posted by Celef

Am I the only one thinking RMT with that ?
People are probably gonna buy the tree to re-sell on the marketboard ^^"

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They're already doing that. There was someone on party finder earlier today trying sell the trees for 5.5mil each. And considering they're $5 each, that is basically 1.1mil per dollar.

$5 seems pretty reasonable given the exclusiveness of these trees (past events, etc.). Plus, they used to go for exorbitant amounts of money on MP. While I agree that larger amounts of trees needed for a "good-looking yard" will add up, there are always alternatives to the trees in game i.e. the autumn trees.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

They're already doing that. There was someone on party finder earlier today trying sell the trees for 5.5mil each. And considering they're $5 each, that is basically 1.1mil per dollar.

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Is it really the Mog Station one, though? Or are they dumping their old stock of trees from the event?

I would have assumed these wouldn't be tradeable, just like they made two different items for some of the dye colors in order to have a tradeable version from ventures and a non-tradeable version from the Mog Station. These are listed as "Authentic Eastern Cherry Tree". The originals were just "Eastern Cherry Tree." I'd assume that difference is to identifiy them as different items, so as to have a different tradeable/untradeable attribute.

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Originally Posted by Celef

Am I the only one thinking RMT with that ?
People are probably gonna buy the tree to re-sell on the marketboard ^^"

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The mog station ones are untradeable, cannot be sold.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

They're already doing that. There was someone on party finder earlier today trying sell the trees for 5.5mil each. And considering they're $5 each, that is basically 1.1mil per dollar.

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Untradeable. If they are actually selling, they got it from the event.

The Mog Station trees are not tradeable or sellable on the MB. So, it's obviously people selling the old ones.

Anyway, I'm really glad they're finally making these available again. I somehow missed that event, and I've been wanting those trees ever since.

Much as I hate SE putting new, unique items (or emotes :mad:) onto the Mog Station, past event items that were originally available in-game, or rare items (like dyes that can come from ventures but only if you get lucky) that can be gotten in-game, seem perfectly reasonable to have there.

As for the price, $5 isn't bad if you just want one, or if you're decorating an FC house where several members could each contribute one. But it could add up to a lot if you want to decorate a large estate's grounds with lots of these trees by yourself. Perhaps if they offered a couple packages: one tree for $5, or four trees for $12, or something along those lines, it would help.

For myself, I think I might spring for a couple of them. I only have a small house anyway, and two trees would be enough to look nice there.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

As for the price, $5 isn't bad if you want one, or if you're decorating an FC house where several members could each contribute one. But it could add up to a lot if you want to decorate a large estate's grounds with lots of these trees by yourself. Perhaps if they offered a couple packages: one tree for $5, or four trees for $12, or something along those lines, it would help.

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I like that, SE do some of that Costco bulk BS where you go in for one item and come out with $200 worth of stuff but you don't hate yourself for doing it lol. I always buy too much because I look at the price per unit and love getting more for less, but I just end up getting mountains of things lol - so I can say when I do shop the multiple / value thing works for me.

Out of curiosity do these trees bind when placed?

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Originally Posted by Shougun

But uh 5 each? Good lord lol, people would easily want to put more than one tree in their Asian themed housing (like 5 easily).

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Those marketing folks at work again. And look we'll have cherry blossom petals to go with that $5 tree this year too. :)

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Out of curiosity do these trees bind when placed?

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Pretty sure the mogstation stuff is bound on purchase. You can't trade them or put them on the mb that I know of.

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Out of curiosity do these trees bind when placed?

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Pretty sure the mogstation stuff is bound on purchase. You can't trade them or put them on the mb that I know of.

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So long as it's not the "destroyed on removal" type of binding to the location that some housing items have. That would totally suck for something you paid real money for. (And yet, without that rule, I'm not sure how they would prevent other FC members with decorating privileges from stealing them. This game really needs the "bound to <character ID>" setting that games like LOTRO have, where if someone removes your decoration, it just returns to you.)

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

So long as it's not the "destroyed on removal" type of binding to the location that some housing items have. That would totally suck for something you paid real money for. (And yet, without that rule, I'm not sure how they would prevent other FC members with decorating privileges from stealing them. This game really needs the "bound to <character ID>" setting that games like LOTRO have, where if someone removes your decoration, it just returns to you.)

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Someone who bought from the mogstation would have to confirm it, but I'm fairly sure they don't blow up on removal. That said the wallpapers, light fixtures and what not that are on the mogstation that normally get destroyed on removal still do.

Just want to point out that there us a 10$ set that has 2 pf the trees and the mat. IMO these prices are very fair and I'm glad to have them.

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

Someone who bought from the mogstation would have to confirm it, but I'm fairly sure they don't blow up on removal.

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I've couple cherry trees and mat from MogStation, I can move them between ground and inventory as I please. :p

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Originally Posted by SokiYagami

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I get what you're saying, personally I like seeing them mix-matched with other things rather than just a solid clump of trees. Like one tree, two max, a handfull of those smaller pink blossom bushes, a bridge, a pond, a series of stepping stones and a fire and some benches would be pretty. Wouldn't have to pay more than $5-10 for that, and if you got the two tree deal you basically get the pretty mat and umbrella for free. I would say it's a good deal considering, and it definitely should bring the mb prices on those trees down a bit.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

Is it really the Mog Station one, though? Or are they dumping their old stock of trees from the event?

I would have assumed these wouldn't be tradeable, just like they made two different items for some of the dye colors in order to have a tradeable version from ventures and a non-tradeable version from the Mog Station. These are listed as "Authentic Eastern Cherry Tree". The originals were just "Eastern Cherry Tree." I'd assume that difference is to identifiy them as different items, so as to have a different tradeable/untradeable attribute.

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You can get gift a friend codes when you purchase them on Mog Station.
In regards to my previous comment it works like this. Player A gives Player B 5.5mil for Player B to purchase Player A a code off the Mog Station. Player B gives Player A the code in exchange for gil. That is how they get past the untradeable barrier.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

You can get gift a friend codes when you purchase them on Mog Station.
In regards to my previous comment it works like this. Player A gives Player B 5.5mil for Player B to purchase Player A a code off the Mog Station. Player B gives Player A the code in exchange for gil. That is how they get past the untradeable barrier.

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However if you get caught doing that prepare for the ban hammer. You're not supposed to trade cash shop items for gil. (source: the red part at the bottom)

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

one tree for $5, or four trees for $12, or something along those lines, it would help.

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In WildStar, I can buy a decor pack containing 10 Aquatic Longleaf, 10 Longleaf Pad (single), 3 flitterfly (a kind of butterfly thing), 10 cattails, a waterfall cascade (twin), a waterfall cascade (single), 5 longleaf pads (cluster), a waterfall cascade (diverted), 5 longleaf pads (flowering), 2 flitterflies (groups of the butterflies), and a waterfall cascade (multiple) for LESS than $5. That's 49 individual decor pieces for less than what SE wants to charge for a single item.

SE's prices are absurd.

5 dollars is too much when ideally to make it look nice you want 3-10

I agree that $5 is a reasonable price. God forbid the 16mil gil price of the actual event cherry tree.

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Originally Posted by Sakuraluna

I get what you're saying, personally I like seeing them mix-matched with other things rather than just a solid clump of trees. Like one tree, two max, a handfull of those smaller pink blossom bushes, a bridge, a pond, a series of stepping stones and a fire and some benches would be pretty. Wouldn't have to pay more than $5-10 for that, and if you got the two tree deal you basically get the pretty mat and umbrella for free. I would say it's a good deal considering, and it definitely should bring the mb prices on those trees down a bit.

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

5 dollars is too much when ideally to make it look nice you want 3-10

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It really depends on your design. If you place the tree as a center or corner piece then you will probably only need 1, but if you try to set it up along the edge or an alley design, it will add up quickly. Here's my previous outdoor bar yard design:

http://i.imgur.com/QARv4RK.png
http://i.imgur.com/DByMMCQ.png
http://i.imgur.com/M4MXP7V.png

Feels a little self flattery to say this myself, but I think it looks pretty and chilly at night. Would cost you $25 (and probably another $10 for the two lamps) if you try to replicate it now by mogstation though.

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Originally Posted by SokiYagami

Would cost you $25 (and probably another $10 for the two lamps) if you try to replicate it now by mogstation though.

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I really just don't understand how anyone in this thread can say that $5 for a single decor can be okay. For $25, I could buy OVER 250 decor items in the WildStar cash shop - probably closer to 300 or 350, as decor packs are somewhere between $3-4.

This is a complete rip-off. >_>

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Originally Posted by Naunet

I really just don't understand how anyone in this thread can say that $5 for a single decor can be okay. For $25, I could buy OVER 250 decor items in the WildStar cash shop - probably closer to 300 or 350, as decor packs are somewhere between $3-4.

This is a complete rip-off. >_>

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Yeah it is too much

Even if I were a millionaire I would have a hard time finding $5 a fair price for a damned virtual tree.

They should put a pack of 5 tree for $5 and a single one $1.25 . The reason is , this item was really wanted so , many people will go buy it . Well, they choose their prices ^^"

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Originally Posted by SokiYagami

Feels a little self flattery to say this myself, but I think it looks pretty and chilly at night. Would cost you $25 (and probably another $10 for the two lamps) if you try to replicate it now by mogstation though.

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Or some million gils to buy a tradeable event tree from last year

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Originally Posted by Naunet

I really just don't understand how anyone in this thread can say that $5 for a single decor can be okay. For $25, I could buy OVER 250 decor items in the WildStar cash shop - probably closer to 300 or 350, as decor packs are somewhere between $3-4.

This is a complete rip-off. >_>

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Not to mention in wildstar you can earn that decor through ingame means as well, regardless of subscription status, and that not only do they bring back previous rewards for seasonal events, they make the previous year's shop item be available for the event currency, the complete opposite of XIV.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Or some million gils to buy a tradeable event tree from last year

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I don't think it wa a last years event you could get the trees cause I had looked for them. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure they were gotten in the little lady's day event from a few years ago.

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Originally Posted by AmalonStar

I don't think it wa a last years event you could get the trees cause I had looked for them. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure they were gotten in the little lady's day event from a few years ago.

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Yup wasn't last year. It was 2-3 years ago for the trees.

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Originally Posted by Bixillarla

Yup wasn't last year. It was 2-3 years ago for the trees.

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Ok thank you I was starting to wonder if I was imagining things or not cause I could had sworn I looked for those trees during the last 2 years when I got a house 2 years ago lol

I kind of wish they would just have made it a craftable item (lvl 70** ALC, etc) in Stormblood now that they are adding Shirogane. I feel like this is going to deter them from adding similar far eastern flora and it just feels silly to have cherry blossoms wall off in a shop when you're introducing far eastern housing.

It's not just those though. I wonder how they are going to square off the exclusivity of far eastern event items (the new years event and little ladies day) with the fact that we are going to Othard and presumably should pick up and have similar items there.

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Originally Posted by Omegakiyohime

I kind of wish they would just have made it a craftable item (lvl 70** ALC, etc) in Stormblood now that they are adding Shirogane. I feel like this is going to deter them from adding similar far eastern flora and it just feels silly to have cherry blossoms wall off in a shop when you're introducing far eastern housing.

It's not just those though. I wonder how they are going to square off the exclusivity of far eastern event items (the new years event and little ladies day) with the fact that we are going to Othard and presumably should pick up and have similar items there.

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I mean they walled off a basic pose on the cash shop so i'm pretty sure they're ready to deprive us of anything just to make an extra buck off of their already paying subscribers. :T

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Originally Posted by Roda

Not to mention in wildstar you can earn that decor through ingame means as well, regardless of subscription status, and that not only do they bring back previous rewards for seasonal events, they make the previous year's shop item be available for the event currency, the complete opposite of XIV.

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Yup, and that's a f2p game. Says a lot that a f2p game handles this better than a p2p one.

Given this, and the emotes on the store, I'm only expecting more and more things to go directly to the cash shop instead of being included in our mandatory subscription.

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Originally Posted by Felis

Or some million gils to buy a tradeable event tree from last year

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If you read my first post on this thread, I'm fine with having a second option to obtaining the cherry tree, just not the price that is listed.

the best thing about these threads is that people forget that these items don't have to come back, they were seasonal exclusives, people complained, SE responded, then people complain again, the store is completely optional, dont like it? the gil option is there. (which im pretty sure is kept as is to marketable on purpose, it was done with the xmas trees etc also.) and if you dont like the gil option/mog station, then i guess there's always acceptance?

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Originally Posted by Lovescake

the best thing about these threads is that people forget that these items don't have to come back, they were seasonal exclusives, people complained, SE responded, then people complain again, the store is completely optional, dont like it? the gil option is there. (which im pretty sure is kept as is to marketable on purpose, it was done with the xmas trees etc also.) and if you dont like the gil option/mog station, then i guess there's always acceptance?

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A) They could add it onto a vendor NPC for purchase via gil the next time the event come around like they did before.
B) As this is a digital good with no production cost, nothing is stopping them from lowering the price if they wish to, but we saw what happened.

In an ideal world, we will be able to purchase the cherry tree with gil via the vendor NPC everytime the event roll around, or for those who missed the event and don't/can't wait, they will be able to purchase it via the kupo store with cash at a more reasonable pricing.

I understand SE is a business company and not a charity organisation, so just take it with what you will, everyone is entitled to their own opinion after all.