New craft / gather achievements

So I already have enough unique items gathered via botany to get the achievement, but the achievement doesn't appear to trigger. I guess I have to gather something new to get it to trigger? Only problem is I don't think there is anything currently available that I have yet to gather.

Also on that topic, I need 6 more unique items for mining and I think I have everything currently available for mining. /o\

Same, all you can reach is 154/160, if you gather the totality. Every miner is facing this derp atm.

Pretty sure SE forgot that both Botanist and miner have some items in common (clusters..), and when you gather them once, it's achieved on both.

Refer here : http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...67493f73411f31

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Originally Posted by cgbspender

Refer here : http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...67493f73411f31

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lol, thanks for sharing

So I just got my first "Blessed" tool, and I'm kind of disappointed with the glow. The glow effect only displays when you are actually gathering or crafting something. For an item like this where it is basically just a glamour item (the tools I already had were better than these) I want to be able to show off my achievement. Without the glow there's nothing to distinguish this item from other items that have the same model. Since I have to craft or gather to be able to see the glow effect, I can't really show off my achievement very easily, especially for the gathering tools since you can't really gather items in a town or city.

I'd like it if the glow was always visible for these tools, or at the very least, make the glow visible when I draw the tool (press Z key).

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Originally Posted by aesteval

So I already have enough unique items gathered via botany to get the achievement, but the achievement doesn't appear to trigger. I guess I have to gather something new to get it to trigger? Only problem is I don't think there is anything currently available that I have yet to gather.

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Did you get the elemental seeds yet?

The disparity between the requirements for getting the crafting achievements versus the gathering ones (sans maybe fishing, haven't looked into it) is absolutely absurd as they are now. For the miner (after fix, anyway) and botanist achievements, you need only gather one of everything below Heavensward 3-stars, which makes these achievements a great catchup for returning players, which I presume was part of the point, given their stats. That's a piece of cake. You're quite likely to have gathered most everything that isn't a timed spawn save for maybe seeds and soil, so assuming you have the stats needed to gather HW 1-stars this achievement takes maybe a few hours for those two. One supposes that the grind for the legendary node books could be factored in here, but unless you quit the moment you reached 60 you probably have those anyway.

On the other hand, the crafting achievements require that you craft one of nearly everything in the standard recipe book. The amount of work that takes is unreal. This includes the housing tabs, by the way, and although it seems as though some recipes with particularly uncommon components are left out of the total required, this is still a massively larger amount of either work or money than the gathering versions. (Shard prices shot up almost immediately after the servers came online, at least on Excalibur)

The gap between these two desparately needs to be closed some. Even with mastercraft recipes out of the equation, it still takes days to accomplish the crafter achievements unless you have massive amounts of money to dump into it. It seems very unbalanced.

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Originally Posted by Shadygrove

Did you get the elemental seeds yet?

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Yes. Gathering log books (except fishing) have everything checked off.

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Originally Posted by PokingAround

...lots or words I agree with...

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I was noticing much the same things. While the number does appear to provide relief from crafting every housing item, it does require some of them to actually hit the number. I was checking my BSM log numbers and I'll have to do more with primal / dungeon / retainer / raid / etc drops to be able to hit the target. Honestly it may not be worth it. It's too bad masterbook recipes don't count towards completion.

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Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi

So I just got my first "Blessed" tool, and I'm kind of disappointed with the glow. The glow effect only displays when you are actually gathering or crafting something. For an item like this where it is basically just a glamour item (the tools I already had were better than these) I want to be able to show off my achievement. Without the glow there's nothing to distinguish this item from other items that have the same model. Since I have to craft or gather to be able to see the glow effect, I can't really show off my achievement very easily, especially for the gathering tools since you can't really gather items in a town or city.

I'd like it if the glow was always visible for these tools, or at the very least, make the glow visible when I draw the tool (press Z key).

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Tend to agree with this, I received my blessed hatchet today, and would really like to
have the glow at all times.
Would love this as an option for all tools and weapons tbh. An option for ppl to turn others effects off should also exist for those that dislike glows, but personally I would love to have the choice for all weapon/tool glows to be visible at all times, sheathed or not. :p

wait a moment... i'm confused as hell, so did they fix it or not? cause i'm trying to get it for my miner

Miner was *NOT* fixed. The requirement still exceeds the total n umber of things you can mine.

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Originally Posted by aesteval

Yes. Gathering log books (except fishing) have everything checked off.

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Look again for Botanist. It says the requirement is 230, and it'll say you've achieved it at 230, but the real number is 231, at which point you DO get the new shiny tool (that only those smacking a tree at the same time as you will ever see).

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Originally Posted by SimonRose

Look again for Botanist. It says the requirement is 230, and it'll say you've achieved it at 230, but the real number is 231, at which point you DO get the new shiny tool (that only those smacking a tree at the same time as you will ever see).

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There was a confirmed bug that the achievement wasn't being unlocked for those who had already hit the target. There was a hotfix two days later fixing the botany bug. If you smacked a tree in the two days before the hotfix, the achievement would not trigger. Now it does. The timeframe of the original post and followups matter in this case.

Miner is still broken. Maybe will be fixed with tomorrow's patch.

Glad someone confirmed this. Thought I was doing something dumb, and have checked my mining log like 100 times looking for the things I've "missed" as only ever at 154/160

Thought was either me being an idiot, or something you can only achieve when they add new things to mine

Edit: Yes it's been lowered to 150 in hotfix

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Originally Posted by PokingAround

The disparity between the requirements for getting the crafting achievements versus the gathering ones (sans maybe fishing, haven't looked into it) is absolutely absurd as they are now.

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I looked at the craft requirements and didn't bother, too much pointless grinding. The mining ones should be "catch-up" as you said, but they aren't either. You need min 860 gather because some HW 3 stars are needed to make the total, as well as grinding out all the books. The fisher one is as bad as the craft, you need to catch practically every single fish, folklore included.

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Originally Posted by XiXiQ

I looked at the craft requirements and didn't bother, too much pointless grinding. The mining ones should be "catch-up" as you said, but they aren't either. You need min 860 gather because some HW 3 stars are needed to make the total, as well as grinding out all the books. The fisher one is as bad as the craft, you need to catch practically every single fish, folklore included.

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the game has 484 different fish, getting 460 isnt that bad, you can skip many annoying ones. And those tools are still catch up items for people with crafted 170 gear

460 fish is certainly far more work than 140 mining items or 230 botany items, particularly when no minng/botany requires specific weather. and you can't say they are "catch up" when they require full HW 3 star starts - you are not doing them with ilvl 180 gear.
as the OP said, the requirements are all over the shop. The mining/botany is reasonable (bar the 200 requirement), the rest including the craft ones are far more work for the same thing.

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Originally Posted by XiXiQ

460 fish is certainly far more work than 140 mining items or 230 botany items, particularly when no minng/botany requires specific weather. and you can't say they are "catch up" when they require full HW 3 star starts - you are not doing them with ilvl 180 gear.
as the OP said, the requirements are all over the shop. The mining/botany is reasonable (bar the 200 requirement), the rest including the craft ones are far more work for the same thing.

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CUL is ok where it is too. But that's just because there aren't as many CUL recipes and there are no true rare crafting mats for the CUL recipe (ie: true rare mats being say some savage drops.)

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Originally Posted by XiXiQ

460 fish is certainly far more work than 140 mining items or 230 botany items, particularly when no minng/botany requires specific weather. and you can't say they are "catch up" when they require full HW 3 star starts - you are not doing them with ilvl 180 gear.
as the OP said, the requirements are all over the shop. The mining/botany is reasonable (bar the 200 requirement), the rest including the craft ones are far more work for the same thing.

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its the 3.0 version of luminary tools, which also required an unreasonable effort and were on par with the BiS tools when they released. The blessed tools arent meant as catch up, get over it. They are nothing but 100% glamour with okayish stats that people wont complain about those

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

The blessed tools arent meant as catch up, get over it.

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I am the one who has been saying they are clearly NOT "catch up" tools all along. They don't have "ok-ish stats" they have the highest ilvl and highest stats in the game without spending millions of gil on materia going down the gurgler - and you aren't getting them unless you already have mainly ilvl 200 gear already.

and the fist post is still 100% correct - the requirements per job are nowhere near equal. Cul needs to craft about 180 items - a carpenter and some of the others over 430. a min/bot have 150 and 230 respectively, yet a fisher needs 460 along with all the RNG they put up with.

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Originally Posted by XiXiQ

They don't have "ok-ish stats" they have the highest ilvl and highest stats in the game without spending millions of gil on materia going down the gurgler - and you aren't getting them unless you already have mainly ilvl 200 gear already.

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you can get everything with ilvl 170 gear and and the crafted 195 tools require 2 materia to be betther than the blessed ones, which costs like 1 mil gil in total (including the 195 tool itself)