So I finally got to a point a few days ago where I was able to unlock flying. Yay! It was actually kinda fun to have to go around and find the aether currents, though I wasn't so keen on the ones locked behind quests. I do like that it makes you learn the lay of the land first. Dravanian Forelands, however, is a nightmare without flying. >_< So glad I don't have to deal with that anymore.
I just have a few suggestions I think would make things more intuitive.
1. Why must I "land" before dismounting? At first I didn't give much thought to this restriction, but it didn't take long to realize there were some unfortunate drawbacks to this requirement. There are many, many cool peaks and towers and statues and whatnot that you can fly to and above, but if the game does not let you "land" on them. This was extremely frustrating! One of the fun things about flying that I remember from WoW is taking myself up to some ridiculously high or remote points on maps and dropping down to perch precariously and get some cool screenshots.
2. This is somewhat related, but I... also liked being able to just dismount whenever and fall to my death. Why? For fun! And divebombing mobs. xD But yeah, would really like to be able to freely choose where I dismount. I can fly up a mountain slope, but it won't let me drop down and stand on it? Woops, I guess this is just more of #1.
The Real #2. The controls are pretty smooth, but it's lacking certain axes. There's no way for me to do loops! This is a travesty that must be rectified! Fond memories of crazy strafe-spirals on my protodrake because goofing off is fun.
3. This one is more about the difference between pre- and post-flight terrain. I found myself repeatedly baffled by invisible walls in places where I knew no wall had any business being. Some of the most egregious examples of this (that I've encountered so far, at least) were along those narrow paths up that big mountain around the Sohm Al dungeon. I could look down and see the switch-back of the path maybe a couple meters below, but invisible walls barred me from jumping down, instead forcing me to run alllllll the way around. Talk about immersion-breaking. >_<
Anyway, those are my suggestions! I really like the zone designs in HW so far and am pleased that SE seems to have taken the critique of the claustrophobic ARR zones to heart. I just think that they could stand to tweak their flying system a bit more!
Suggestions for better flying
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11-15-2016, 01:46 PMNaunetSuggestions for better flying
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11-30-2016, 01:12 PMNaunet
Bumping this because I'm still greatly disappointed in certain things about how flying was implemented! Husband and I got through the Dravanian Hinterlands today and...
http://i.imgur.com/vOXhBF5.png
So many things you arbitrarily can't land on. T_T Please let us just dismount at will mid-air and let us stand on any object in a zone! No reason to limit where we can go like this. -
11-30-2016, 01:46 PMDzianMaybe because people like me do stupid stuff like fly as high as we can and press dismount curious to see how much fall damage we take from that high up........Quote:
Originally Posted by Naunet
I also wanted to see if I could dismount and summon another mount before I hit the ground.....
or at least I tried to when I first unlocked flying -
11-30-2016, 01:49 PMNaunetI do that all the time! Or well, I did when I played that Other Game that has flying. It's fun... and no reason to block us from being able to do it. You can't even die from fall damage in this game unless you're in combat, though I'd still do it even if we could. Being able to drop onto tall peaks or towers, or drop from dizzying heights only to save myself by charging at a mob... super fun! But... impossible in this game.Quote:
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11-30-2016, 01:57 PMShurrikhan
I just want some modicum of flight physics. Why don't we dive any faster than we ascend?
We've got Chocobo feet and Sunawa tails that move off-center, but never due to inertia... -
11-30-2016, 06:54 PMMistyMew
Over all I think se has done a wonderful job with flying :)
I agree doing loops would be cool, did that many a time in WOW....why?...idk lol but it was cool :)
Would enjoy being able to dismount even a certain amount before landing. Mainly though to start fighting a mob, right clicking a targeted mob to dismount and start attacking would be an improvement imo. That applies to our ground mounts too. -
11-30-2016, 07:48 PMMartin_Arcainess
I think the main reason why you can't dismount freely mid air are in case you fall down somewhere and your character gets stuck, if they land on there feet then yeah you can easily use the mount command again but it's times when you land in a arkward spot, so you may have landed but your character is still doing the fall animation.
Also maybe due to extra time adding these land zone areas could be used for something else. -
12-01-2016, 05:21 AMNaunetThat happened occasionally in other MMOs, but it's rare and not really a reason to not let you dismount wherever. You'd just /unstuck, which was a quick command to help players out such situations (and was useful if you got stuck in a wall or whatever somehow, too).Quote:
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12-01-2016, 05:34 AMReptiletc
I fully support this, I just see the issues that could be formed due to it.
No map is entirely sealed and getting out of bounds would be 100 times easier with this implemented. (Something the devs don't want)
Getting unstuck is super easy since they let you teleport while falling. Trust me, been there.
Would love to see skydiving. -
12-01-2016, 10:33 AMLambdafishOn the contrary, with flying being designed this way from the get go, there isn't much reason to remove the restriction (it almost seems like it would promote getting stuck). How would SE pitch this? NEW FEATURE: mounts can now be disbanded mid air, which achieves nothing except means you fall to your death.Quote:
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I am in agreement about flight physics and loops though. The game gives me a sense that I'm airborne, but I never feel like I can soar or fly like a bird. -
12-01-2016, 01:10 PMNaunetEh, even outside of not being able to just dismount wherever I want (and it's not just wanting to fall to my death - there are a lot of statues, pillars, hills, rocks, etc that SE hasn't bothered allowing you to "stand" on, which means you can't "land" on them, which means you can't dismount to stand on top of them), the whole having to get all the way to the ground before dismounting (and not being able to dismount by using an action) is really clunky. The transition between being in the air and being on the ground is not smooth at all.Quote:
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12-08-2016, 02:53 AMXenosan
I can imagine a Sprint feature for mounts that add some small flavor of flight simulation and/or mounted ground travel. Increased speed, restrictived moment. don't think they'd invest in something like this, but it would be nice to have something more. Moving on 3 axis != flight.
(I'd also like NPC interaction from mounted state, it's Final Fantasy, and to me mounted dialogue is part of the whole fantasy genre. You hear Ferry operator? A tick of mine) -
12-08-2016, 03:01 AMZojhaHeh. Imagine having to cope with air pressure, squalls, uplift, temperature control, momentum and inertia...Quote:
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Now that I think about it, that would probably make ground mounts a looot more appealing. -
12-08-2016, 03:22 AMPintsizedFrankly, I'm glad this isn't like WOW where players can remain seated on stupidly large mounts obscuring NPCs being totally inconsiderate and at times deliberately being jerks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenosan