By analysing the currently existent jobs I realized that there isn't anything left for Samurai in DPS and Tanking roles without taking serious risks of becoming redundant. When we get to Healing roles though these risks vanish miraculously, yes, I'm talking about:
The Melee Healer.
There is nothing like this right now in this game. Free spot. Rarelly used archetype in MMORPGs, and believe or not, it is compatible with previous cases of this class in Final Fantasy.
By releasing the "soul of the sword", Samurai in FFT were capable of manifesting many different effects depending on the weapon they had. Half these effects were, suprise, suprise, support. Healing, MP recovery, Regen, Haste, Protect and Shell.
With the soul of the weapon, and other possible shenanigans like shouts, auras, and the endless healing power of friendship, Samurai could be the Warriors of the healers, too strong of a dps for its role, still decent on the role it is supposed to fit.
Well, I never designed a class before, so it is totally going to be bad, but I tried something like this:
Class: Samurai.
Role: Healer (Melee).
Weapon: Katana.
Cross Classes: Pugilist & Rogue.
Cross Skills: Mantra, Haymaker, Featherfoot, Second Wind, Internal Release, Shade Shift, Goad.
Abilities
*Spirit Stacks go up to 5.
01 Fang - Delivers an attack with a potency of 130. Grants Spirit stack for 30 seconds.
02 Murasame – (OGCD) Releases spirit stacks, healing surrounding allies by 150 potency for stack.
04 Tiger Slash – Delivers an attack with potency of 100. Combo Action: Fang. Combo Potency: 170. Combo Bonus: Reduces damage dealt by 10%. Grants Spirit stack for 30 seconds.
06 Shirahadori - (OGCD) Marks an enemy and parries next marked enemy’s attack within 5 seconds. Pacifies the enemy for 5 seconds.
08 Masamune – (OGCD) Releases spirit stacks, adding mind to the katana damage modifier for 3s for each spirit stack. Surrounding allies receive 50 potency regen for twice the time.
10 Mineuchi - Delivers an attack of potency 120. Additional Effect: Stun for 3s. Does not remove Sleep from target.
12 Stand - Resurrects target with +15% stats for 20 seconds. Weakened state is applied 20 seconds later for 2 min. Can be used during combat.
15 Ashura – (OGCD) Releases spirit stacks, delivering a ranged magic attack with a potency of 30 on health and mana for each stack.
18 Kiyomori – (OGCD) Releases spirit stacks, removes one detrimental effect from surrounding allies for each stack.
22 Courage – Grants 150 TP to surrounding allies.
26 Dragon Empower – Delivers an attack with potency of 100. Combo Potency: 240. Combo Action: Tiger Slash. Combo Bonus: Applies Dragon Bite that heals anyone who attacks this target by 20% of damage for 15s. Grants Spirit stack for 30 seconds.
26 Kotetsu – (OGCD) – Releases spirit stacks, sleeping all surrounding enemy for 3s each stack.
30 Iainuki – Delivers an attack with a potency of 120 to all enemies in a straight line in front of you, 220 potency if enemy’s hp is below 20%. Moves to the last enemy in the line.
34 Tempest Slice – Delivers an attack with potency of 100. Combo Potency: 190. Combo Action: Fang. Combo Bonus: Reduces target’s magic resistance by 10% for 20s. Grants Spirit stack for 30 seconds.
38 Calm Mind – Reduces enmity by half. Aditional Effect: Fills spirit stacks.
42 Oblivion Cleave – Delivers an attack with potency of 100. Combo Potency: 220. Combo Action: Tempest Slice. Combo Bonus: Heals surrounding allies by 50% of damage, 100% if enemy has Dragon Bite applied. Grants Spirit stack for 30 seconds.
46 Ame-no-Murakumo (OGCD) – Releases spirit stacks, slowing down all surrounding enemies for 3s for each stack.
50 Chirijiraden (OGCD) – Releases spirit stacks, dealing fire damage to all nearby enemies and healing all nearby allies with a potency of 60 for each stack.
Traits
08 Enhanced Mind – Increases Mind by 2.
14 Enhanced Mind II – Increases Mind by 4.
16 Morale – Critical attacks heal nearby allies by 15% of the damage.
20 Enhanced Shirahadori – Shortens Shirahadori cooldown to 20 seconds.
24 Enhanced Mind III – Increases Mind by 6.
28 Enhanced Stand – Duration of Weakness is lowered to 40s.
32 Enhanced Courage – Increases the TP restored by Meditation to 300.
36 Enhanced Dragon Empower – Extends Dragon Bite to 30s.
40 Spiritual Integrity – Spirit releases always keep 1 spirit if 5 spirits are spent at once.
44 Morale II – Critical attacks heal nearby allies by 30% of the damage.
48 Enhanced Calm Mind – Shortens Calm Mind cooldown to 60s.
Job Abilities
30 Bushido (Stance) – Grants one spirit stack every 5 seconds. Increases Mind stat by 20%. 50% of all damage taken by allies is distributed among party members. Reduces Enmity generated.
35 Companionship – Parries all attacks received by surrounding party members for 15s.
40 Kikuichimoji (OGCD) – Releases spirit stacks granting the same number in Sanguine Blossom stacks, the stacks are consumed whenever an ally receives damage, delivering an attack of 50 potency back and healing for the same amount.
45 Osafune (OGCD) – Releases spirit stacks, granting a 20 potency Refresh to all party members for 3s for each stack.
50 Samurai Soul – Next release skill can be used without spending spirits as if maxed.
52 Satsui (Stance) – Attack skills that generate spirt stacks now consume one spirit stack instead, becoming a guaranteed critical attack. Sanguine Blossom stacks are transformed into Death Blossom stacks that no longer react to damage.
54 Zantetsuken – Can only be used with Satsui. Consumes all Death Blossom stacks. Deals 60 potency damage for each stack and ignores defense.
56 Honor – Can only be used with Bushido. Consumes all Sanguine and Death Blossom stacks. All surrounding allies receive Stand effect of +15% stats for 3 seconds for each stack consumed.
58 Determination – Surrounding allies cannot reach less than 1 HP for 6 seconds.
60 One with the Sword (OGCD) – Consumes mana to buy one spirit stack.
Details
About Healing Without Mana: When I did the Monk questline, Erik taught me about how enemies release Aether when defeated. Aether being well, lifeforce, same thing used by Scholars and Summoners to do some miracles. That got me thinking, do you really need your own mana to use magic then?
Samurai being the uh... Spiritual warriors they are, with all the "I can cut anything with these katanas" idea, including cutting souls got me thinking... What if they tear the enemies' souls with each attack, and use it for themselves?
Well, that's pretty much the whole concept of the class above. You rend your enemies' souls with your special cutting skills, drench your katana with their aether, and use the accumulated aether to do magic. This way you don't need mana at all.
Overhealing: In theory, Samurai will be constantly healing the whole party. The overhealing would cause ridiculous ammounts of threat and ruin everything, except for the fact that the healing has a very short range, Battle Litany-like. That means that party members can control how much healing is being done by measuring their distance to the Samurai, same for the Samurai itself. Needs healing? Get closer. No healing? Back off.
Potency Values: I never made a class before, so the numbers are as good as random. I tried my best by looking at the available damaging skills for healers, assuming Samurai will cause a little more damage as I planned it to be something like the Warrior of Healers (everyone knows Warriors are OP). I do think the values I chose might be too much though, regardless of that, it is just a matter of nerfing.
Lack of single target heals: Considered my experience with dungeons in the game so far, healers are barelly required to heal, and when they are required to heal seriously, it is because the tank messed up and everyone is taking damage. I don't see a problem with the Samurai kit for healing, except for specific Raid fights that I'm unaware of how works. The Healing Stance Bushido was one way I found to force things to be more compatible to the lack of single target heals.
An interesting consequence of Bushido is that, since it works in short range as well, the more party members you have close with it active, less damage each individual takes, and more healing is done. Way to go with the friendship power of supporting each other, I think I achieved one of my goals for this class with this.
All the OGCDs: I think it is the only way to make this viable. Differently from others healers, you have to build up Spirit Stacks to start healing, any waste of time can mean too late.
Competition with other Healers: If anything, it tells healers to wake up. Last I got into a dungeon with a healer, my White Mage spamming Stone II and Aero in Cleric Stance had a very solid DPS. Something clearly above 200 potency every moment. Any needed healing can be done with a quick OGCD removal of Cleric Stance and a cast of Cure II or anything.
But that's all optional. Healers might as well just stand there and do nothing until required to heal. That is the point in which Samurai has a different take: You have to do DPS to be able to heal, there is no lazyness allowed.
Naming of Skills: They were all almost directly based on FF6's Cyan's Bushido techniques, FF5's Samurai abilities, and FFT's Samurai's skills (if not almost literally adapted to FF14).
Samurai Healer - Because anything else is already taken.
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08-24-2016, 08:16 AMAhrnielSamurai Healer - Because anything else is already taken.
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08-24-2016, 03:34 PMgehrtalert
I'd try it. Sounds like it could be fun. Interesting at the least
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08-24-2016, 05:43 PMNekotee
The idea sound super fun XD
But the samouraï is kinda implied to be the long Sword dps to be...
Be looks like a fun alternative :D -
08-24-2016, 11:44 PMRisvertasashi
Mm. Those that want a sword-based DPS class would be so, so salty...
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08-25-2016, 12:41 AMLeogun
Write it up!
I think, if it has a good amount of healing integrated with its dps and provides unique utility and is styled well with animations and skill effects, I think even dps skewed players would roll one up as their healer of choice. Sure, you run the risk of having a dps player neglecting their healing duty but that goes for really any class.
I'm not an experienced player but would any of this be viable as possible tools of the job?
* limited on ranged heals (maybe just a strong HoT) but nice PBAoe healing
* heals cost TP
* party TP regen support
* self TP refill
* TP shield (half damage received is directed to tp)
* buff that heals target for tp spent (more tp spent, more healing. Only refers to skills with actual tp costs)
* combo support (can somehow improve procs)
* determination replaces mind for healing -
08-25-2016, 05:05 AMAhrnielThere, added it. It's my first attempt ever, so its just a rushed concept.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leogun
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08-25-2016, 05:38 AMDynamoAce/SCHOLARS/Quote:
Originally Posted by Leogun
They wind up being too reliant on Eos to heal and forget they have to play a part.
Regardless the idea of a Melee Healer is very interesting. -
08-25-2016, 06:21 AMSanghelios
Sounds fun but there are quite a few flaws in here. The game isnt build around having a dps/healer in one job. Either way you are dps or healer. Given the abilities you did list it it sounds like you are 50% dps, 50% healer. As of how the game works at the moment, that would be impossible to balance with the other classes. In case he would be count as healer, then all those dps abilities would have to be nerfed to other healers dps output and in case he would be a melee he would have to be on par with other melee classes in terms of dps output (noticeable lower dps would instantly kill Samurai in raids setups and so locking him out of endgame) while literally having near zero healing abilities at hand (Maybe a very few like other melees (Maybe something like Mantra, a self heal but thats all of it then)
Anyway, thumbs up for trying. Was interesting to read :) -
08-25-2016, 06:51 AMADVSS
sounds pretty fun, if not a healer i can see this system function well for a dps samurai too, good read!
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08-25-2016, 07:22 AMSilverbane
I like the idea of a melee healer, but I'd rather have it be a Dancer.
Because, to quote Chance the Gardener, "I like to watch." -
08-25-2016, 07:26 AMAhrnielI thought of that once too, but Final Fantasy lore pretty much told me no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverbane
Basically, in the series Dancers were never a... "positive support", but a "negative support". They never healed, only caused damage and ruined enemies' lives.
So I have another plan for them: Evasion Tank.
I will try writing that up tomorrow. -
08-25-2016, 03:32 PMLegion88
I like your idea and by reading it i saw few flaws who make me wonder or i see to overpowered.
Stand - Enhanced Stand
This is to powerfull in comparsion with the other raises and makes a death punishless or even worse desireable cause of the +15% for 20 sec and the weakness reduction to just one-third. And how long is it's casttime cause there is no swift cast available for SAM. In my opinion this skill is so hard broken without costing any resource like spirit stacks, MP, cast time and the huge buff which makes a death so forgivingful like it never happened.
Mineuchi
Stun > Sleep; no need to not remove sleep from stuned enemies or you want to make it a plain DPS gain in PvP.
Moral / Moral II
Will make them more critbased then Scholar. This trait wont change really much on the healing, cause of the very low overall damage of this job. Perhaps take away the crit requirement and make it to heal targets target on crit for the double %.
Satsui
Was it your intention to make this a 15 sec or less stance in general? How will Death Blossoms work out of just be a resource spent for Zantezuken?
Wouldn't it be better to make Satsui an inverted Bushido like: spirit stack generating skills no longer generate spirit stacks. Every 5 seconds a spirit stack is consumed and you will get a buff +50% crit rate for 5 seconds. Sanguine Blossom stacks are transformed into Death Blossom stacks.
Zantezuken
There is no defense in PvE just in PvP. Perhaps you should make it ignoring all damage reducing effects like CDs, stances and armour. And it seems to be based from STR or DEX, depending on the weapons damage stat, so it requires you to also have Masamune active have a good damage output.
Companionship
How should this work? Just a 20% redection to received physical damage? Will it cause/force parry procs? Is it limited to the suroundings of the Char like a AoE he carries with himself or is it like a buff for all party members at the moment of activation?
I think you should thinking about a trait which doubles the max of stackable spirits and max spirit you can spent for 1 ability limited to 5.
Another flaw is the really low attack power of this job, cause all melee attacks are based on STR or Dex so the healing through crit hits is deminishing low if not Satsui + Masamune.
You can also add a DoT attack which generates 1 spirit stack for every DoT tick, unaffected by Satsui.
I hope you don't feel attacked or harrased but i saw some flaws in terms of balance and job interaction... -
08-25-2016, 06:31 PMNekotee
Now that there is skill and trait
I think that no this is no good XD
Just because
You will never get ride of the overheal
As a healer 85% of my time is spend into dps with that samurai i would be 100% DPS and heal
Not so bad except in enmity
Just to be clear
IF you see an actual healer playing at a far ranged position then he is doing it wrong
No healer should be away of the group
So yes the samuraï would be easy
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I don't get the part "need healing get closer, no healing back off"
It's aim to who ? Since the group should always be pack XD -
08-25-2016, 07:28 PMCeasaria
Okay, the concept is interesting (with the stacks) but this Samurai is far far far far more cheated than any other Healer.
I need more time to read, and understand all of this, but i can tell you this : your Samurai has skill from healer, dps, tank (holmgang for everyone, seriously ????, parry for everyone), buffer (TP for everyone lol, +15% stats, remove one debuff for everyone), and debuffer (sleep, pacification, stun, reduce damage, reduce resistance magique)...
Ok so, i know it's your first class design, your lodestone tell me you are not even a healer and you don't have reached level 60 with any class, so...it's understandable you don't know really how to design a class in FFXIV...
At least, level up your healers and come back to refresh your ideas.
Otherwise, without experience and comparison from other healers class, you couldn't design well a healer class.
Good luck ^^ -
08-25-2016, 07:54 PMWatachy
OP i hate you.
Now i want the samurai to be a healer <.< -
08-25-2016, 08:58 PMNekotee
To add to ceasaria who show how strong it is
Let's not forget that
All the samurai skill are dps based
Which any group with a samurai will have a huge advantage to any other group because of the dps gain -
08-25-2016, 09:04 PMAlistaire
Healer that can't sprint. /endthread
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08-25-2016, 11:56 PMAhrnielDon't worry, this is exactly the response I wanted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Legion88
Since I made it myself, I think it is great (got serious bias). So I wanted someone to look objectivelly at it and tell me what is wrong.
I will see if I can improve the idea with your points. Thank you for the analysis.
About the things you said though:
Stand: I made it that way because when I was first designing the class I didn't have that much hope for it... (yeah lol). So basically I was expecting constant deaths, and as a way to not worry much with it, I thought of making deaths not that much of a bad thing. But then again that's dumb, I better rethink it hard.
Mineuchi: The reason Mineuchi doesn't remove sleep is because the original skill in FF5 does that. It is just a reference, kinda easter egg.
Moral/Moral II: I thought the damage of this class was too much for a healer? But perhaps not enough to heal well...
Satsui: I thought about the timers yes, Satsui is something you will use very briefly, unless you built 5 spirit stacks and has Calm Mind around. Because that will mean 10 crits in a row from your basic combos. Death Blossoms are used for Zantetsuken and Honor, Honor being the +15% stats for everyone. If you have 5 death blossoms and build up more 5 sanguine blossoms after it, you can get +15% stats for everyone around you for 30s.
Zantetsuken was forcefully added, this game has so many skills? I didn't realize until I started making this class, at the end I had 4 skills left and was absolutelly clueless about what to add. Zantetsuken was one of these additions. I like the Sanguine and Death Blossoms though, will keep them for sure.
Companionship: About this one, I thought about it just being more damage mitigation, but parries are really weak right? They remove about 20% damage and that's it. I've gotta think about something else. My idea for this class was to compensate the lack of healing with damage mitigation, but honestly this is a complex concept to tackle for someone like me, I'd still want to see it happen though.
About Masamune, I added the effect of mind into it because I thought that if Mind affected damage of Katanas constantly that would be OP. If it isn't, then I don't see a problem in removing this effect from Masamune, just leaving the HoT, and then Katanas being permanently Mind based.
Thank you. I thought analysing the wiki for all the skills was enough, but I suppose playing the classes and having a proper understanding of them in action is much better of an experience. Sadly I do not have Heavensward yet, so the 51-60 region will be unknown to me until then. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceasaria
I see. It sure should be together, but from my experience people tend to separate if they are melee or ranged. I thought it would work if people consciously measured their distance from the samurai to modulate the threat generation of the team, but that could be an innocent wish. Mostly in early instances that tanks already have a hard time tanking without Tank stances, and most people are still learning the game. I can't be lazy with the threat generation part and wait people to deal with it. Thank you for your insight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nekotee
Me too. (T-T)Quote:
Originally Posted by Watachy
I must do 100 pushups to compensate for creating such heresy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alistaire
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08-26-2016, 05:44 PMNekotee
It's true that some people tend to think
Blblblblbl bard is ranged so I have t be far away blblblblbl black mage is a caster i shall play from the other side of the room
Which is the dumbest thing to do
Because if huge wide cleave happend your sprint won't save you
If you take a hit, do you expect the heal to get you ? Naïve...
Basicly to best example is calofisteri
If you're far away from her Ass and in the wrong side of the room when she hair cleave... It's gonna hurt
The thing is that most people forgot that there is no benefit of being ranged (especially caster that lose weapon smacking)
Outside pvp of course (because brd and mch gain dmg with distance)
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And yeah
Alistair got the most important point XD -
08-30-2016, 12:59 AMAutumnsHollow
I'd prefer dancer over samurai as a melee healer.
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08-30-2016, 01:51 AMParawill
There needs to be LB3 things too :)
LB3 - Unburden Soul / Soul Resonance
The Samurai redraws their katana and plants it into the ground. They let out a massive Kiai in which resonates the Samurai's soul with their allies. Restores 100% HP and Revives all dead allies (with weakness) to full HP, MP and TP.
Sound: Heart beat resonance.
Aesthetics: Ripple effect with light centred on Samurai. All targets within range has their soul show above them and pulses a sphere of white light as indication that they are healed/raised. -
09-06-2016, 12:17 PMplatorepublic
I don't like the idea of a melee healer. Healer should only be ranged.
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09-06-2016, 01:40 PMClaire_PendragonWhile I welcome a SAM healer, your statement is incorrect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahrniel
There is always new ways to do any role.
1 example someone from my LS came up with is a class that is a mix between off the GCDs like DRG with jumps, MCH with procs, but most importantly, BLM with its MP management.
Which sounds like I'm only proving your point.
But in actuality, the classes main mechanic is 3 phases it goes through.
High burst, high TP cost attacks (similar to how fire takes MP) low dmg TP regain attacks (similar to how blizzard refreshes MP) and a middle phase for off the GCDs/procs that dont take up TP, nor regain it, for other scenarios. (Such as needing more dmg after their burst phase, before trying to build up TP with regain, or allowing a slower regain of TP, by switching to this phase, as TP regains) Though the idea they also came up for SAM, was using a buff that does nothing between the GCD, but once you reach 9 stacks, you can only throw up stacks in your burst phase, but remove the stacks in the middle phase to gain a massive burst of TP (more TP than invigorate, and quicker, making u not need to cross class LNC), for an additional "moment of burst".
In short, it has similarities to other classes, but ends up being its own unique playstyle.
This playstyle also can be used for tanking or Healing. (Its not limited to DPS)
There are always alternatives.
In regards to SAM healing.
You could always make an off the GCD burst heal, that does dmg, but heals the target of your target. You cant pick who you want to heal, as its determined by threat, but if done right, can be an interesting/fun mechanic. -
09-07-2016, 12:32 AMAhrnielI believe we should always explore more distinct concepts first, that is why I recommended Samurai the Healer role.Quote:
Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon
We already have a Continuous Melee DPS as Monk, a Burst Melee DPS as Dragoon, and Ninja as a middle term between those, with magic casting. I think Ninja is the one that robbed Samurai of its DPS spot. Now, you can just make a new DPS class that has different mechanics, but the roles will still be redundant somewhat, and I think that should be avoided for now. Build more distinct roles so you have a more diverse cast of concepts to mix later on. Right now the jobs are playing with the same tools constantly.
Same thing for Tank, the flashy, parry tank with some magic that causes decent damage expected for Samurai is already taken by Dark Knight, that even uses a Two-handed sword as well by the way.
I didn't put this analysis in the first post because at first I had to deal with the 1000 character limit, and then I forgot to add it later on. But yeah, my reasons are more to the roles and overall feeling than the specific mechanics.
And I still didn't review the skills, didn't have that much time recently. I will get to it soon.
I completelly forgot that, thanks for making one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parawill
I understand it is a challenging concept, but it isn't devoid of precedents.Quote:
Originally Posted by platorepublic
The Captain in Lord of the Rings Online, the Champion in Ragnarok Online, Paladin in WoW (somewhat) and all Melee classes in Guild Wars 2 can be used as examples of melee healers. I find them a fresh and interesting concept to have around in a game. But would that work in FF14?
Recently I leveled up my White Mage up to Lvl.50 as to understand better the kind of challenges a healer faces in Eorzea, and I have to admit that the set of tools I've created for Samurai are insuficient. A ranged single target heal seems to be pretty much required in many cases. I will review the skills eventually to create something more reliable and responsive to the needs of the party. -
09-07-2016, 07:44 AMClaire_PendragonAgain, no problem with SAM healer, but a "melee healer" doesnt have to be SAM either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahrniel
FFXIV (and FFXI) have a slight different issue with making new jobs, in that if they use classic jobs from prior FFs, it's sort fo a slap in the face if they are too different.
Eventually everyone will be used to it, and only 1% of ppl will complain.
WAR and PLD were drastically different before the changes, but it was because PLD was overpowered, and needed nerfed, but instead of nerfing its broken mitigations, they had up WARs to equal it, and now all tanks will need to equal it. Which is why all tanks will still be pretty similar, except their play style.
Similar with WHM being main/raid healer, and SCH being mitigation/DPS healer, they sorta hindered possible future healers in a similar way.
The only way to make them different, is in play style. (Not functionality)
DPS on the other hand are so similar to eachother, and have very little requirements to be functional outside of "Do damage" there is even more room for unique playstyles for them currently. (Currently all melee DPS have a 1, 2, 3 combo in shape or form, but the casters dont all have 123 combos)
In the end, i started a thread about all the possible options unused, but left it when they announced 3 new jobs. (Which felt a little unnecessary, until we know thier mechanics, to which ill later necro bump to update) -
09-07-2016, 09:55 AMAhrnielNo problem with that, Samurai were decent healers in FF Tactics, which I based all the spirit release skills from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon
People have said Dancers should be the melee healer instead, but considered previous versions of the class, it never healed in any of them, quite the opposite.
I don't think there is any other melee class suitable and available for melee healing in the FF series anymore other than Samurai. Know of any? -
09-07-2016, 12:57 PMADVSSonly ones left are knight/paladin, red mage, blue mage and fft samurai fft/ff5 chemist(if you give it a dagger) Monks(chakra), gau in ff6 if you had him mimic a healer enemy (not sure what job he was meant to be, maybe BST ?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ahrniel
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09-07-2016, 01:07 PMLeogunLiberties with jobs has always been taken with each Final Fantasy game. They tend to use the base jobs as a starting template and then take liberties with the advanced jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon
The basics:
White Mage - heals
Black Mage - blows stuff up
Monk - punches stuff
Warriors - bash stuff
Dragoon - stab/jump stuff
Liberties:
Paladins - aren't merely tanks. With the most powerful swords in the game, they can demolish stuff
Dark Knights - aren't merely high-powered DPS. tend to be able to self heal through drains
Ninja - beyond just holding two weapons, they have vague applications
Summoner - again, vague applications. sometimes they heal, sometimes they buff, sometimes they tank, sometimes they obliterate. it depends how summons work in the game
Bard - they sing and buff. what they do outside of that is vague
And when I say vague, I mean the liberties taken with the jobs varies most from game to game. Basically, I agree that Sam doesn't have to be the melee healer but I don't quite agree that it'd be too different from past sam (whose applications have been vague). -
09-07-2016, 06:13 PMNekoteeLast I check only spell are ranged to help idiotic ranged dps hided far away from the groupQuote:
Originally Posted by platorepublic
Because healer tend to be melee range because dps skill and auto-attack
If not melee they are in less than 10yalms away top
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If you see a whm far away from the group this means he don't use cure3 and shall be judged -
09-21-2016, 08:40 PMBalipu
I'd love it. I love out of the left field class choices. Besides I amn starting to realize that I really like healing, but my main is a ninja- Healing as a ninja is not possible, but if i could get a healer from Othard, it would be the next best thing. Now all we need is dancer as an evasion tank and a dps red mage to go with it.