Bored at work Dark Knight ideas

I'm bored at work so I decided to come up with ideas that I think would be neat for abilities that Dark Knight has to change to. I personally feel some things should be adjusted with Dark Knight but this is more for fun and not OMG DRK is broken.....


Hard Slash: Same

Shadowskin: Same

Spinning Slash: Same

Scourge: Same but add Dark Arts: Add Hp draining effect

Unleash: Same but perhaps add into the trait that makes it a free cast "when unleash is used a 15% chance Abyssal Drain costs no mp"

Low Blow: Same

Syphon Strike: Same

Unmend: Same

Blood Weapon: Converts dmg to HP instead of MP and Dark Arts allows it too be used in Grit

Reprisal: Same

Power Slash: Change the Dark Arts to Power Slash is allowed to be used at full effect without being in combo but then has a recast timer.

Grit: Same

Darkside: Same

Dark Dance: change Dark Arts increases parry rate instead of adding evasion.

Blood Price: change to Sacrifice an hp regen(from scourge) to gain an amount of mp and prevents you from being able to gain an Hp regen for a set time.

Souleater: Same

Dark Passenger: Same

Dark Mind: SAme

Dark Arts: Same

Shadow Wall: Same

Delirium: Add Dark Arts effect: grants a mp regen.

Living Dead: Same

Salted Earth: Same

Plunge: Same

Abyssal Drain: Same

Sole Survivor: Same

Carve and Spit: Change to having higher potentcy naturally, increase recast slightly to balance and add dark arts effect that Reprisal becomes activated once Carve and Spit completes its attack.


For All:
Potency, Mp Cost and Recast Times to be adjusted as necessary for balance.

I might be on my own on this, and I expect to be completely lambasted by the community at large, but the cool down on reprisal has to go. It's silly that a counterattack tied to the infrequent nature of parry has a cool down.

I'd like to see them change Enhanced Unmend to Enhanced Unleash - "Grants a 15% chance that after casting Unleash your next Dark Passenger or Abyssal Drain will require no MP."

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Originally Posted by Billeffingmurray

I might be on my own on this, and I expect to be completely lambasted by the community at large, but the cool down on reprisal has to go. It's silly that a counterattack tied to the infrequent nature of parry has a cool down.

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I read an idea somewhere on this forum before that sounded nice, which was to make Reprisal an oGCD ability you can use at-will and parrying just reset the cooldown, kind of like how Low Blows works.

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Originally Posted by Erit

I read an idea somewhere on this forum before that sounded nice, which was to make Reprisal an oGCD ability you can use at-will and parrying just reset the cooldown, kind of like how Low Blows works.

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The cooldown is probably there to prevent you from applying it to multiple targets.

I personally think they should just change dark dance into a guaranteed parry on next hit and reduce the cooldown to 30 seconds. That way you could have a guaranteed reprisal every 30 seconds at least. Dark dance is okay as is for mobs, but that's not usually where you need to be popping defensive cooldowns anyway if your healer knows what they are doing (or if you pull more than you can handle).

Rework all the parry jazz into something else because it's a pretty bad stat.

Few ideas I had for DRK. to make it little more fun =)

Blood weapon - Consumes HP to deal 10% more damage.Can not be used while under the effect of Grit. (235 hp per auto attack, same as the gain we have for the mp)

Living Dead - Brings forth your other half. All damage received heals the player while all heals received damage the player, after 10 seconds you fall under a weakened state, all damage dealt is 20% reduced for 15 seconds.

Grit - Just add that it drains MP. Can not be used while under the effect of Blood weapon

Darkside - 15% damage increase while doubling the Drain effect of Grit or Blood weapon.

Sole survivor - Add, Under the effect of Dark Arts, grant targeted party member with 20% of your HP/MP.

Carve n Spit - Add a combo Hard Slash > Spinning Slash > Carve n spit. Does 280 pot while absorbing MP (roughly 554) Under the effect of Dark Arts. increased pot to 600, no MP drain

Dark Dance - Grants 20 seconds of Parry.

Reprisal - Grants 300 TP. Under the effect of Dark Arts Heals the Player for 1200 pot

Souleater - Change. Under the effect of Dark Arts places an absorb Bleed effect on target for 20 seconds. (nice twist to help stay alive)

I only have one desire for drk, it's the only thing I want for the class after getting it to 60 and running some dungeons and Alexander normal:

Please for the love of all that is holy, change the stance already. The sephiroth stance does not work with a claymore style sword and it looks ridiculous. That's my one and only thing I can't stand about drk, I can deal with every other one of it's weaknesses but I can't stand that stance. At the very least give us the same battle stance as the first boss in aethero.

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Originally Posted by Souleater13

Living Dead: Same

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I disagree here. The more I look at it, the more I realize how badly-designed Living Dead is. One idea I had for it is to make it a sort of second HP bar. Turning it into this:

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Summon your inner darkness to take damage in your place. Expires after 10 seconds or when your inner darkness' HP reaches 0.

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To explain, when you click on this cooldown, you gain a second HP bar to represent your inner darkness. While the effect is active, your own HP doesn't take damage but can receive heals. The second HP bar cannot be healed but still gets mitigation benefits from other defensive cooldowns as well as Stoneskin/Adlo. So it's not an invincibility per se but still a strong defensive cooldown. This also makes it useful instead of an ability that hinges on arbitrary bullshit to be worthwhile.

Sole Survivor :
- Dark Arts effect : Restores 400 TP instead of HP.

Living Dead :
- If you're successfully targeted by a raise spell before Walking Dead timer runs out, the effect will fade.

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

Living Dead :
- If you're successfully targeted by a raise spell before Walking Dead timer runs out, the effect will fade.

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That is actually a good idea. I think it needs to be given something a bit more to be actually viable considering the cost of the raise spells.

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-Walking Dead
While under the effect of Walking Dead, most attacks will not lower your HP below 1 and you are a valid target of Ascend, Raise, and Resurrect. If, before the Walking Dead timer runs out, Ascend, Raise, or Resurrect is cast on you, the effect will fade and you will be restored to 50% hp. If Ascend, Raise, or Resurrect is not cast, you will be KO'd.
Walking Dead Duration: 10s

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Originally Posted by Khalithar

I only have one desire for drk, it's the only thing I want for the class after getting it to 60 and running some dungeons and Alexander normal:

Please for the love of all that is holy, change the stance already. The sephiroth stance does not work with a claymore style sword and it looks ridiculous. That's my one and only thing I can't stand about drk, I can deal with every other one of it's weaknesses but I can't stand that stance. At the very least give us the same battle stance as the first boss in aethero.

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Actually Regula's stance is more in line with what Sephiroth would use(at least, i have seen pics where he holds the blade like that). A two handed sword can be held in a variety of ways.

The female version of the stance is far more believable. The male one defies physics even by Hydaelynian standards.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

Actually Regula's stance is more in line with what Sephiroth would use(at least, i have seen pics where he holds the blade like that). A two handed sword can be held in a variety of ways.

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Regula holds the sword in the Cloud style stance when he is standing still, I've even taken screenshots that I wanted to use for a thread about the same topic. I can deal with the Cloud stance, but I really can't stand the Sephiroth one (for the style of sword drk is meant to use).

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Originally Posted by Duelle

I disagree here. The more I look at it, the more I realize how badly-designed Living Dead is. One idea I had for it is to make it a sort of second HP bar. Turning it into this:



To explain, when you click on this cooldown, you gain a second HP bar to represent your inner darkness. While the effect is active, your own HP doesn't take damage but can receive heals. The second HP bar cannot be healed but still gets mitigation benefits from other defensive cooldowns as well as Stoneskin/Adlo. So it's not an invincibility per se but still a strong defensive cooldown. This also makes it useful instead of an ability that hinges on arbitrary bullshit to be worthwhile.

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I should of specified on some abilities with "haven't thought of an idea" instead of "same"
I do however, really like your idea for Living Dead.

I like the sword stance a lot personally. Let's not pretend physics is a thing in this game. We have flying fat chocobos and sky whales...

That stance is ridiculous. I think it would have fit more with SAM that they were considering making. I think DRK should wield GS with one hand. Kind of like Nightmare from Soul Calibur series.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q...1D&FORM=IARRTH

well, to be honest, i find the DRK battle stance to be... decent (popping all the CDs in anticipation of stones being thrown)

here is the "Sephiroth Stance"
https://danhairfield.files.wordpress...ephiroth01.jpg
remember that he is left handed, he grips masamune mainly with his left hand on the top.
In this stance, he turns so his left side is facing the camera, sword pointing forward, left hand in front, right hand in back, no crisscross
heres our DRK stance
http://i.imgur.com/Ml8hIo7.jpg
we are the mirror opposite since the game assumes we are right handed
right side facing the enemy, holds the sword so the right hand is in front and left hand in the back.

apparently this is an authenic medieval longsword stance as per google (albeit with an overexaggerated 'longsword')
http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/...ongsword01.jpg
the "hanging right" stance
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._44_A_8_1v.jpg
http://www.shadowbeagle.com/Stahlsta...image_2887.png

to me, it looks as if most of the drk actions can be carried out authentically, just with a regular sized 2 hand longsword.

We don't need more Dark Arts effects on skills. DA already costs like 1/4 your mp bar to use and to add to that Blood Price had a 40 sec cd and doesn't work against magic attacks to regain mp. All you are asking for with more DA effects is to be more mana starved.

now on topic for actual drk changes
the few things that needs reworking is the skill synergy and job design.

INT debuff, paired with dark arts/dark mind, gives us incredible resistence against magical attacks.
so by design we seem to be a magical counterpart of PLDs.
However, another part of out tool kit revolves around parrying, namely reprisal, which is arguably our best skill, and low blow reset.
This requires us to be MT on bosses with physical attacks, yet our most powerful mitigation is magical...
Also theres the weird blind/evasion dark arts effect for dark dance and passenger, which conflicts with our blood price MP regen.

so my proposed changes are

Darkside: enables parrying of magic attacks, additional MP is consumed upon successful parrying of a magic attack.
Dark Arts/Dark Passenger: The potency increase is remains the same, adding additional enmity modifier and/or change the aoe to a cone instead of straight line.
Dark Arts/Dark Dance: Regains TP upon a successful parry.
Reprisal: aside from being able to be proc'd by a parry, using Dark Arts will force it to proc, ofc it consumes the dark arts effect. CD can ideally be shortened to 20 seconds so we can upkeep it on the boss, at the cost of having to manage an extra Dark Arts MP cost.

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Originally Posted by Dicejss

We don't need more Dark Arts effects on skills. DA already costs like 1/4 your mp bar to use and to add to that Blood Price had a 40 sec cd and doesn't work against magic attacks to regain mp. All you are asking for with more DA effects is to be more mana starved.

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Dark Arts does not need to cost 1/4 of the mp bar, it could be adjusted...

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Originally Posted by Xenon_S

well, to be honest, i find the DRK battle stance to be... decent (popping all the CDs in anticipation of stones being thrown)...

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One thing i find about the drk stance is that it looks like a defensive stance with the sword covering the body in a frontal view. not so with sephiroth's.

As far as changes to drk. I think it would be nice if, like souleater, mp gain abilties like siphon strike and carve and split can be affected(improved) by stats, rather than a fixed number. As fixed calculated numbers make having a changing max mp number hard to justify.