Will we ever be able to remove our shoes?

I kind of want to take my shoes off. That includes the magical heels I wear underneath shoes. Not being able to remove them since spawning probably takes its toll on the warrior of light.

Will we ever be able to truly be barefoot? I'm sure this question has been asked already, but not recently apparently.

I have seen it asked recently actually, like a week or two ago.
And the answer is always the same: No.
They would have to change the model, too much work for little to no gain.

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Originally Posted by sirDarts

I have seen it asked recently actually, like a week or two ago.
And the answer is always the same: No.
They would have to change the model, too much work for little to no gain.

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There are flat shoes already in the game, and visible feet in some shoes. What exactly would need to be changed so significantly?

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Originally Posted by Adire

There are flat shoes already in the game, and visible feet in some shoes. What exactly would need to be changed so significantly?

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Height.
Your height is always the same no matter what kind of shoes you wear.

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Originally Posted by sirDarts

Height.
Your height is always the same no matter what kind of shoes you wear.

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Why not just let height be the same when barefoot, like it is with flat shoes already?

I want bare feet for the super cute beach outfits coming up!

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Originally Posted by Adire

Why not just let height be the same when barefoot, like it is with flat shoes already?

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Because you would be floating an inch or more off the ground, unless the warrior of lights feet have built in meat-platforms

They would have to alter the model, and also change their x/y position in the game data to make them stand on surfaces the way they are supposed to, also they would need to add in new sound effects to reflect bare feet on different surfaces.

It is more work than one might expect

I never understood why some devs force those horrible shoes to be used.
In real life i see girls in bikinis + bare foot. In many games i see bikinis + high heels which looks stupid, same like wearing socks with sandals :D

I support this fully!

They will have to redo the body models* for this to happen(swapping in unique models isn't that simple). Skeleton changes as well as hieght adjustments, which is what those sandals are for. Any modeling decision, except for pallete swaps(I detest these because it is VERY lazy) by SE, I understand perfectly, having been a 3D modeler myself.




*Assuming those perfectly seamless models have no separate head/feet/hands mesh and it really is one whole body model.

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Originally Posted by Jin-

I never understood why some devs force those horrible shoes to be used.
In real life i see girls in bikinis + bare foot. In many games i see bikinis + high heels which looks stupid, same like wearing socks with sandals :D

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I doubt a girl in bikini would walk through a forest bare foot instead with sandals.
And there are also sandals without socks (socks are part of the pants)
As an example: http://xivdb.com/?item/3749/Lady%27s-Clogs (if you don't got it from summer event 2012 or last year it will be soon in the cash shop)

But what SE can make are those shoes: http://www.coachkeats.com/wp/wp-cont...oot-shoes1.bmp (dyeable of course)

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Originally Posted by Adire

I kind of want to take my shoes off. That includes the magical heels I wear underneath shoes. Not being able to remove them since spawning probably takes its toll on the warrior of light.

Will we ever be able to truly be barefoot? I'm sure this question has been asked already, but not recently apparently.

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Think of the corns.
That does explain why my elezen runs kind of gingerly.

I fully support this, I have characters in other games that never wear shoes, well never have them showing, and I'd love for my poor little kitty to be able to do the same here, purrrrlease :)

We already float above ground in a lot of places. WoD for instance. So why cant we float above ground without shoes too.
id love it if different shoes changed our height a little bit

No shoes, no service.

I think my hyur looks good in heels... but then again, I'm a girl and like that sort of thing.

I was actually just thinking of making this same thread! LOL Bare feet are more of an aesthetic thing to me honestly (But isn't pretty much every piece of gear in this game?)

Not like I'd be running around barefoot all the time...probably mostly for SS's, pajama wear and beach parties. And I guess I understand the 3D modeling thing...I promise I wouldn't complain if it was added and we had to float an inch off the ground.....but......considering there was an all out war because of grass textures.... I know how the forum community can get ._.

Still though T_T Imagine this SS with bare feet!

http://i.imgur.com/pxeCebl.png

You guys are running out of things to complain, huh?! XD

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Originally Posted by bettomendes

You guys are running out of things to complain, huh?! XD

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It's a request. It's not complaining. I'll never raise pitchforks if this isn't added, it's just something that would be nice. Get off your high horse.


EDIT - Some guy whining about quiting the game and disassociating with the franchise because there's no PS4 achievements, that's complaining.

It'd definitely be nice. It came back to my attention recently too because of some story cutscenes that included NPCs with bare feet. I realize that the sandals are meant to take the place of boots so that the character model's skeleton is always the right shape, but at the same time it does bug me that I can never actually be barefoot... ever.

It's definitely not a minor thing to ask for, but I think it's still worth asking for.

I like the idea.

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Originally Posted by Aryalandi

Because you would be floating an inch or more off the ground, unless the warrior of lights feet have built in meat-platforms

They would have to alter the model, and also change their x/y position in the game data to make them stand on surfaces the way they are supposed to,

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We don't stand on surfaces the way we're supposed to now. (Particularly on sloped surfaces where our feet clip with the ground because the feet model always assumes a level surface.)

And, as Adire mentioned, there are flatter shoes than those default sandals already in the game. Shoes display shorter or higher heels without changing our character's height by essentially adjusting the length of our characters' legs near the ankles to compensate, shifting the position of the foot in comparison to the rest of the body. Since there are shoes that do that already, it should be feasible enough for a "barefoot"-look item (The Emperor's New Boots?) to do it as well.

But even if they didn't adjust it, hovering half an inch off the ground would be barely perceptible from our normal camera angles. Certainly less distracting than the clipping that already happens on sloped surfaces anyway.

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Originally Posted by Aryalandi

also they would need to add in new sound effects to reflect bare feet on different surfaces.

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Bare feet sound the same as soft leather shoes, which are already in game.

I've asked this same thing plenty of times in the past.

Fairly sure originally, they were added because the previous team thought it was 'unrealistic' to be running around barefoot. But that team isn't there anymore, so I'm hoping Yoshi.P and his crew make this happen at some point. If realism is really an argument.. We have transparent glamor items. Bikinis. Chocobo suits. Snowman heads. Dancer outfits.. Need I say more? Glamor or not, people are running around in them, tanking in them, DPS'ing in them. Any argument made about it being 'unrealistic' has so many counters by what is already in the game alone.

But as the rest said, it'd come down to the model. I believe the closest your feet get to the ground are with the sandals from the previous summer event. (The ones I'm hoping go up in the store soon)
They'd have to either redo the model so that when you're barefoot, your feet actually touch the ground, or do something to at least make it look as if we're actually standing on the ground and aren't hovering slightly over it. As the poster above said, leg length can fix that, but there would come a point where it would just be too long. Not sure if going barefoot would hit that point or not.

I still support this 200% though, it's aggravating that those base sandals cant be removed, especially when I'm sitting in a bath, or laying in a bed.

Edit: I think the heels would be the biggest problem. They never seem to come as close to the ground as the rest of the foot beyond a certain point.

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Originally Posted by sirDarts

I have seen it asked recently actually, like a week or two ago.
And the answer is always the same: No.
They would have to change the model, too much work for little to no gain.

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if its to much work: Why Y'shtola and Nanamo where to see barefoot?! >_>

It probably goes against their design aesthetics

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Originally Posted by Aryalandi

Because you would be floating an inch or more off the ground, unless the warrior of lights feet have built in meat-platforms

They would have to alter the model, and also change their x/y position in the game data to make them stand on surfaces the way they are supposed to, also they would need to add in new sound effects to reflect bare feet on different surfaces.

It is more work than one might expect

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I don't really buy this. Have you seen the bunny slippers? They're pretty much as flat and low to the ground as being shoeless would be and I don't imagine the sound would be that different.

Not to mention as others have said, we already float above the ground and sink into the ground in some places. It might take SE a little effort, but we've already got much more noticeable axis problems already in the game.

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Originally Posted by Adire

I kind of want to take my shoes off. That includes the magical heels I wear underneath shoes. Not being able to remove them since spawning probably takes its toll on the warrior of light.

Will we ever be able to truly be barefoot? I'm sure this question has been asked already, but not recently apparently.

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Why is this even a thing? lol

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Originally Posted by Atrious

Why is this even a thing? lol

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Because why not :)? We've had topics suggesting much crazier things. This is a realistic suggestion.

It isn't weird to you that with all shoes off, we still have shoes on? I wonder if Eorzeans are born with shoes on....

Sometimes I read threads like this and see: beachparties, pyjamas, and i'm thinking: Are we playing the same game? The only beach parties i've been having is beating up cancer.

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Originally Posted by Korashy

Sometimes I read threads like this and see: beachparties, pyjamas, and i'm thinking: Are we playing the same game? The only beach parties i've been having is beating up cancer.

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Your FC isn't like mine then :p Usually during holidays and stuff we'll throw big parties with fireworks and stuff...or just do it randomly anyway to unwind XD

Oooh, I'd love a whole "Emperor's new shoes" item or something that makes your character actually bare foot. As a slight addition too it, I'd freaking love if that sorta item actually made the stockings/socks in the game into well, actually stockings/socks instead of these weird legging things we get.

It should actually be possible for the SE devs to make a barefoot vanity item... Who knows maybe someday? It doesn't seem to be high on their to do list at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Spy

Your FC isn't like mine then :p Usually during holidays and stuff we'll throw big parties with fireworks and stuff...or just do it randomly anyway to unwind XD

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I joined an FC for the exp bonus only and immediately muted their chat >.>, I think I'm used to a different style of gaming.

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Originally Posted by Korashy

I joined an FC for the exp bonus only and immediately muted their chat >.>, I think I'm used to a different style of gaming.

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*shrug* To each they're own.

Frankly, I think that this is a cultural thing with the Japanese developers more so than a technical issue. The "no boots" model uses white sandals that are very similar to the indoor footwear (Uwabaki) used in Japanese households, businesses, onsen, etc.

By the way, if you're traveling in Japan and have big feet like me, take your own slippers. It's really uncomfortable to have your entire heel hanging off the end of the size 9 sandal jammed onto your size 13 foot. Even when visiting factories, I was required to remove my outdoor footwear and use provided Uwabaki. On my repeat trips, I took my own.

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Originally Posted by Aryalandi

Because you would be floating an inch or more off the ground

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I'm sure people that really want it would take that trade off and other pointed out there already areas that clip into ground or float about the ground already with shoes on.

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Originally Posted by Spy

Your FC isn't like mine then :p Usually during holidays and stuff we'll throw big parties with fireworks and stuff...or just do it randomly anyway to unwind XD

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My FC threw a big beach party the other day too for 4th of July. There were fireworks, champagne, dancing and all kinds of fun to be had. I didn't know we were doing it, and logged in to work on some MSQ, and got a tell saying to meet in Mist. Ended up being 2 hours of great fun!

This is also the reason because we can't have heels with bareskin shown.
They can't adapt the feet inclination to the boot, so they just replace any boot model with the basic feet model.
I guess they could create a boot model that resemble the original feet without additional textures? That way, they could bend the fake foot making the plant touch the ground.
But I'm just doing wild guesses, no one knows for sure how those model exactly work.

There is something I think they could do however to make this system of auto-sandals a little more bearable: make the basic sandals dyeable. That way, we could at least match them by customizable colours.