First ever gay couple NPC's

OMG it was so cute, the miqo'te was soooo good looking but the other one, meeeh, I'm happy those two love each other so openly to random adventurers ;P

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LOVE KNOWS NO GENDER!

Thank you Tumblr, but there was a pair of lesbian Miqo'te in the spring outside Forgotten Springs in that quest when you shoo away the men.

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World: Balmung

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Why am I not surprised at all?

The chick dressed as 1.0 Minfillia for the Rising event was a lesbian as well.

Before people continue dragging out every single example of gay/bi female NPCs lying around Eorzea, I think it's worth pointing out that this is the first time in the entire game we've seen men portrayed as openly homosexual. Lesbians are, no offense intended, the "okay" sort of homosexual as far as the "straight male" demographic is concerned. Having homosexual men appear is deliberately going beyond that acceptable norm. Which is great, especially for a Japanese game.

Also a gay man here, but I appreciated the thought. I also appreciate that they didn't overstay their welcome as easily as they could have. It's cute, and it happened, and it's done.

I was honestly happier to see that those two guys I have to watch "die" at the start of every WP run not only survived, but got so much growth and happiness out of it. I hate not being able to save everyone.

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Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie

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THAT'S RACIST!!

I kid I kid

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Originally Posted by Zoralink

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My feelings exactly, even though I am heterosexual.

I find it odd that homosexuality seems to have become trendy, which I feel is a disservice to the actual gay community.
I feel that homosexuality should neither be damned nor glorified, it should just simply be accepted. Taking homosexuals and singling them out, for better or worse, creates a division between them and the rest of society instead of helping them to just be a normal part of it.
Gay people are still just people, no better and no worse.

As for the NPC's I liked them, not for the fact that they were gay but for how their feelings of not fitting in helped them empathize with the Tonberries and their plight. They acted as a nice narrative window for us to feel bad for the Tons and actually want to help them.

Is seeing gay people in video games a new unicorn or something?
What's with all the excitement? yes, we know you exist, you're people, etc.

you know what I'd get excited for? When people stop throwing politics, agendas and the like in things meant for entertainment and escapism and just play games.

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Originally Posted by Fenral

I was honestly happier to see that those two guys I have to watch "die" at the start of every WP run not only survived, but got so much growth and happiness out of it. I hate not being able to save everyone.

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That was really nice, actually making them characters with a story instead of just those chumps that got taken down in WP.

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Originally Posted by Melriss

and not that they were different species or anything

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It's kinda entertaining, because until I had it pointed out to me that they were a gay couple, I didn't even register that as the reason they were apparently not accepted. I interpreted it as the racial difference, not the sexuality thing. Hell, I didn't even realize they were both male in the first place.

shrug

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Originally Posted by TouchandFeel

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Pretty much. Pointing out does nothing. It just does exactly what you said, creates an unnecessary gap. There's no reason it should even be relevant in the majority of conversation. If someone is gay, that's that. Does it affect their ability to raid with you? No? Cool then. If it comes up in conversation, neat, you know more about the person. Otherwise, why should people care?

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Originally Posted by KodiHivaer

Is seeing gay people in video games a new unicorn or something?
What's with all the excitement? yes, we know you exist, you're people, etc.

you know what I'd get excited for? When people stop throwing politics, agendas and the like in things meant for entertainment and escapism and just play games.

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No, those two are openly about it and have to deal with malice from everyone, due their race and gender but definitely that the miqo'te was super cute and the other one was ugly as crap but meh, maybe its is personalty or something.

I honestly would think the Miqo'te would go well with another Miqo'te or at LEAST a Elezen but a Hyur, eww. Bad combo.

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Originally Posted by TouchandFeel

I feel that homosexuality should neither be damned nor glorified, it should just simply be accepted. Taking homosexuals and singling them out, for better or worse, creates a division between them and the rest of society instead of helping them to just be a normal part of it.

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Before acceptance, there needs to be visibility, as some people still refuse to believe homosexul couples could even exist in a fantasy setting. Sometimes it requires a bit of shoving down the throat, and with that comes some bad, but without it there would be no good at all.

The way they introduced and used this character was great! Nothing wrong with some praise for the devs, we see these threads pop up about all kinds of things. I was very happy about it all, nothing else to say.

I think it's more cute that it's interracial. It's also nice for this to happen because people thought so hard SE was against
gay couples and stuff with the whole marriage. It's nice nod in that direction to know SE does not have any hate for homosexuality
and really bent around to make the community happy with "Eternal Bonding." So yeah. We all know homosexuality is a very touchy subject and I see nothing
wrong for the OP to mention it and all, instead of people hating.

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Originally Posted by Zoralink

Topics like this just make me want to crawl into a hole and die as a gay man. We get it, companies are actually representing homosexual couples in games.

Stop shoving it in everyone's face. (The players, with topics like these, not the game devs.)

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Can't agree with ya enough :x.
I mean, yeah it's cool that you guys found a gay couple in the game! Awesome!...but I dunno if it's needed to be announced to everyone.

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I think it's a nice nod to the LGBT community. Does it need to be shoved in everyone's faces, not really. But its existence is nice.

This topic isn't any different from any other "Thank you Dev tem for the hairstyle/hotfix/article of clothing you implemented/whatever."

If TC finds this worthy of celebration, then so be it; I thought it was cute.

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Originally Posted by Silverharp

This topic isn't any different from any other "Thank you Dev tem for the hairstyle/hotfix/article of clothing you implemented/whatever."

If TC finds this worthy of celebration, then so be it; I thought it was cute.

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For real, if you don't like it, just move along. Asking people not to shove it in people's faces or acting upset that people care and then subsequently bumping the thread seems counterproductive. Just move along.

I'm on the side of those who found it to be a nice touch to add an openly gay couple as part of an important quest and not just something secretly in the background.

But I'm surprised the Devs even added them as a couple in the game and even openly as such. I suspect it is the work of our dear Koji Fox at localization who added a little interesting touch to an otherwise bland set of NPCs.

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Originally Posted by Melriss

But gay men are so cute *gigglesquee* omfg i want a gay friend so bad lmfao!!! xDDD

Yeah welcome to 2015.

Moving on, the NPCs were a nice touch of background for them and the fact that they struggled to find acceptance from their villages. It's a bit odd that people (in game) were more mad that they were homosexual and not that they were different species or anything - or I may have missed out on some big context since I hardly remember the exact conversation.

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Then you really don't remember much, because it was the other way around. They were chased out of their village for being an interracial couple; I don't think the fact that they were the same sex was even mentioned in that conversation. Aparrently Eorzea treats homosexuality as just a thing, but I remembr the Lore folks saying something about racial hybrids being despised, which would naturally lead to a similar treatment for interracial couples. Includng those who categoracally can't produce offspring, it would appear.

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Originally Posted by Parodine

For real, if you don't like it, just move along. Asking people not to shove it in people's faces or acting upset that people care and then subsequently bumping the thread seems counterproductive. Just move along.

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My overarching point with all of this was that pointing it out enhances the sense of 'other' to a homosexual person. I get it, it's cool that people are okay with it and all... But that's all that needs to happen. The ideal is people not even noticing it in the first place, it's just something that happens. By pointing it out, it's just... making it a 'thing'. People against homosexual people tend to push back because it's more in their face while people who accept it... already accept it.

See also: Touch and Feel's post on the first page.

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

I think it's a nice nod to the LGBT community. Does it need to be shoved in everyone's faces, not really. But its existence is nice.

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I LIKE IT CAUSE ITS YAOI AND I"M A BIG YAOI FANGIRL, I LOVE GUYxGUY ROMANCES

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Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie

I LIKE IT CAUSE ITS YAOI AND I"M A BIG YAOI FANGIRL, I LOVE GUYxGUY ROMANCES

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Originally Posted by Zoralink

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Pretending like it doesn't matter is all well and great idealism, but that's not the world we live in or will live in perhaps for a very long time. People will push more heavily when supporters are silent, in my experience. People who support it shouldn't feel like they shouldn't talk about it not to step on other people's toes.

If you don't wanna talk about it as a gay guy, it's cool. You're not any less for that. But if I want to talk about it with other supporters, people shouldn't made to feel less than or ashamed for bringing it up. And compared to the plethora of terrible threads on this board, this should be least of people's worries.

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Originally Posted by Parodine

-Says something awesome- but can't quote cause its too long, bad forums, bad

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WOOT WOOT, yah!

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Originally Posted by Parodine

Pretending like it doesn't matter is all well and great idealism, but that's not the world we live in or will live in perhaps for a very long time. People will push more heavily when supporters are silent, in my experience. People who support it shouldn't feel like they shouldn't talk about it not to step on other people's toes.

If you don't wanna talk about it as a gay guy, it's cool. You're not any less for that. But if I want to talk about it with other supporters, people shouldn't made to feel less than or ashamed for bringing it up. And compared to the plethora of terrible threads on this board, this should be least of people's worries.

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Ha, fair enough, I can respect that view point on it. Don't entirely agree, but to each their own.

Especially the terrible threads part.

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Originally Posted by Zoralink

Ha, fair enough, I can respect that view point on it. Don't entirely agree, but to each their own.

Especially the terrible threads part.

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SMN egi appearance rework topic #201 with Akiza "facts"

Hunts & "Early Pulling"

Why Bards are a shit job and should be top dps..

I sometimes feel like I'm among the minority that see things like this in a game, movie, etc and don't think anything special about it. As in it's just normal, as is a hetero couple in everyone's eyes. Like "oh ok, they're a couple", just as I did with Edda and her douchey tank fiance.

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Originally Posted by Zoralink

Ha, fair enough, I can respect that view point on it. Don't entirely agree, but to each their own.

Especially the terrible threads part.

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It's cool. I totally understand your perspective and mean nothing but respect to your point of view too :) Ideally, I'd love to live in a world where coming out isn't a thing etc. Hopefully one day we'll get there.

I think it's just an awkward translation, just because they are a couple doesn't mean they are together, it is probably meant that they are a couple of travelling companions

Yeah, I say keep this thread open. I'd like to see how the Japanese dialog translates. Maybe we can put this matter to rest once and for all.

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Originally Posted by Zoralink

Hell, I didn't even realize they were both male in the first place.

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I didn't notice it until I went to take a close look at the Miqo and did a bit of a double take.

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Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie

I honestly would think the Miqo'te would go well with another Miqo'te or at LEAST a Elezen but a Hyur, eww. Bad combo.

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I dunno, I've seen some damn fine specimens of Hyur wandering around. :3

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

I dunno, I've seen some damn fine specimens of Hyur wandering around. :3

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You mean like this fine specimen?

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-w...nNDU/photo.jpg

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Originally Posted by Silverharp

I don't think we are in the same America...

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You mean the Russia America that stops you from getting a driver's license? You know the one in the SOUTH? Or do you mean the one allowing gay marriage at a constitutional level? Or, no offense, r just just dat guy dat hates murica?

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Originally Posted by KodiHivaer

Is seeing gay people in video games a new unicorn or something?
What's with all the excitement? yes, we know you exist, you're people, etc.

you know what I'd get excited for? When people stop throwing politics, agendas and the like in things meant for entertainment and escapism and just play games.

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I'm a people :D

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Originally Posted by KylePearlsand

I'd like to see how the Japanese dialog translates.

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Much less padded and much more to the point, actually (forgive me for not line-by lining). The male Miqo'te actually flames pretty hard in ways that would be rather difficult (and possibly offensive) to translate literally, so we can consider ourselves blessed that they chose not to.

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Originally Posted by NTense

just because they are a couple doesn't mean they are together, it is probably meant that they are a couple of travelling companions

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And... nope, the original script used the English loan-word "couple," which, in spite of it's meanings in English, is only used for romantic couples in Japanese. They aren't a pair, or a duo, they're a couple, in the "we love each other" sense.

But trying to argue the semantics is just silly, since they wouldn't have been run out of town for being "just friends" across racial boundaries. Unless it was Gridania, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Fenral

Much less padded and much more to the point, actually (forgive me for not line-by lining). The male Miqo'te actually flames pretty hard in ways that would be rather difficult (and possibly offensive) to translate literally, so we can consider ourselves blessed that they chose not to.


And... nope, the original script used the English loan-word "couple," which, in spite of it's meanings in English, is only used for romantic couples in Japanese. They aren't a pair, or a duo, they're a couple, in the "we love each other" sense.

But trying to argue the semantics is just silly, since they wouldn't have been run out of town for being "just friends" across racial boundaries. Unless it was Gridania, I guess.

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Thanks. I was curious what the Japanese translation was. Glad I don't know now. ^^;

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

Happy thread but eh it's offending people, so bye bye to this soon lol.

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I doubt it.

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Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie

I doubt it.

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Ya know, you're sig doesn't say at all what you say it says.

I don't see why a thread needs to be made about this..... But it's nice to see some diversity in this crazy world.

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Originally Posted by Yutsimaki

I don't see why a thread needs to be made about this..... But it's nice to see some diversity in this crazy world.

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I made it cause it was sooooo cute to see those two together, though, I thought BOTH of them would be good looking and not just one but whatever. I take what I can get.

These types of threads never go well....

Otherwise, it's nice seeing such random npcs that're are easily overlooked and forgotten get some attention/ story.