so what is she then?

Without giving away too much for the peeps who haven't played that far into the story. We have seen the two new beasttribes for the expansion. But we still have the question of a certain ninja(?) masked npc of unknown race, she is obviously not one of the new races soooo anyone have an idea?

She's going to be part of the new playable race, we're (hopefully) going to see under the mask in 2.5.

And as a new playable race, it is unlikely that she will be a member of a beast tribe, since no beastmen have ever been playable.

Will be revealed at Tokyo Fanfest. Please look forward to it.

With all the 3.0 and 2.4 excitmemt I totally forgot we get a new playable race, go go fantasia!!!!!

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Originally Posted by WellFooled

And as a new playable race, it is unlikely that she will be a member of a beast tribe, since no beastmen have ever been playable.

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That depends, beast tribes are mostly all the races that aren't one of the 5 races, so in a way it will be a beast race, but since this race will be accepted in all the city-states then it's not really a beast race.

Well Goblins an Qiqirn are also accepted in City-states, so iff we follow that logic, they're not beast races either :p

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Originally Posted by Alenore

Well Goblins an Qiqirn are also accepted in City-states, so iff we follow that logic, they're not beast races either :p

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Not really, they are only accepted in Limsa Lominsa and because they are merchants, they don't live there. Amal'jaa lived in Ul'Dah some years before the 1.0 but they didn't manage to get along with the others so they got kicked out. Beast tribes are also called barbarians ( not sure if it's that in english, but it is in french and japanese ) for that reasons, like how the greeks called the ones that didn't belong to their city-states.

I don't think Yugiri is part of a "beast race" but her people are probably not found on this side of Eorzea, so they're not considered part of the "five races." I assume that when they become playable the "five races" will become six.

As for their name, my guess is Auri. The wind-up Odin minion heavily implies it - the description is an explanation for why Odin, a decidedly Western figure, has a Far Eastern blade, Zantetsuken. It was said that he defeated a Far Eastern "Auri" in battle and took his blade. This Auri was probably a samurai, and we know that Doma is culturally very similar to Japan.

Putting two and two together, that would make Yugiri an Auri.

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Originally Posted by lololink

That depends, beast tribes are mostly all the races that aren't one of the 5 races, so in a way it will be a beast race, but since this race will be accepted in all the city-states then it's not really a beast race.

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That's a way of looking at things I hadn't considered. I guess to me, a beastman is defined as a sentient species whose physical traits more resemble animals than hyur.

But then, who knows what those goblins look like under their masks!

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Originally Posted by WellFooled

That's a way of looking at things I hadn't considered. I guess to me, a beastman is defined as a sentient species whose physical traits more resemble animals than hyur.

But then, who knows what those goblins look like under their masks!

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You only have to see Miqo'te to see that half beast half human is a little wrong to describe beast tribes, even more if Yugiri is indeed an half dragon or lizard race. And you don't have to looks like a beast to be called a beast or a monster.

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Originally Posted by Alenore

I don't see any representative of Yugiri's race living around Limsa, Ul'dah or Gridania, except Yugiri herself (who's a refugee).
There's also moogles in every cities.
And the reason the Amal'jaa got kicked out is mostly because when the whole Empire/Primal summoning started, it started to get a little... tense between them and the other. Before that, they were accepted just like Goblins and Qiqirns.

What I mean to say in the end is, the difference between a beasttribe and one of the 5 races isn't simply "they are accepted in city-states".

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Because Yugiri's race isn't known by the city-states, so it's neither a beast tribe nor a human race. And there is a huge difference between accepted and being part of a city, a little like living someplace but not having the nationality, not being considered as a citizen of this place.

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Originally Posted by lololink

Not really, they are only accepted in Limsa Lominsa and because they are merchants, they don't live there. Amal'jaa lived in Ul'Dah some years before the 1.0 but they didn't manage to get along with the others so they got kicked out.

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I don't see any representative of Yugiri's race living around Limsa, Ul'dah or Gridania, except Yugiri herself (who's a refugee).
There's also moogles in every cities.
And the reason the Amal'jaa got kicked out is mostly because when the whole Empire/Primal summoning started, it started to get a little... tense between them and the other. Before that, they were accepted just like Goblins and Qiqirns.

What I mean to say in the end is, the difference between a beasttribe and one of the 5 races isn't simply "they are accepted in city-states".

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You only have to see Miqo'te to see that half beast half human is a little wrong to describe beast tribes, even more if Yugiri is indeed an half dragon or lizard race. And you don't have to looks like a beast to be called a beast or a monster.

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If I may be so bold, Miqo'tes are hardly half beast :p I'd say even ten percent would be pushing things. I would also argue that the word beastman is meant to be taken literally, not figuratively.

What of the Garleans, then, are they part of the 5 races? Or are they another hyur "tribe"?

Overall, I don't think she's a beast tribe at all. Somebody mentioned an "Auri" this may atleast be the name. Who knows, maybe having a -ri at the end of thier names is part of thier naming convention

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What of the Garleans, then, are they part of the 5 races? Or are they another hyur "tribe"?

Overall, I don't think she's a beast tribe at all. Somebody mentioned an "Auri" this may atleast be the name. Who knows, maybe having a -ri at the end of thier names is part of thier naming convention

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Pretty much ya there are the 5 race in 1.0 the Garleans took kids and people and made them part of there army "If i remember right". Van Darnus is the only known person to have blood of the Allagan people. It's the main reason he could start Dalamud to fall down on Eorzea.

Releasing the Padja race would be pretty simple seeing how they are seemingly unaging children born rarely from certain Hyur bloodlines in the Twelveswood. But i guess they wont be release for us to use to they no longer rare to be born in Eorzea.

well my theory is she is from the bunny race that was introduced in FF12.
the ears under the hood look like they could be bunny ears, however her tail looks like a cat's tail. but her ears are to long to be a cat...:(:confused:

Of course I really don't think it's going to be the "viangaa" they showed as a prank for both April Fool's and the Las Vegas fan fest, but I'm not ruling out the possibility of them still mixing the two. The bangaa and vierra both had long ears that Yugiri has, she has a bangaa-like tail with what looked like scales to me. The rest of the body structure, however, seemed to be much more upright like a vierra or one of the other 5 races. I can also just see a bunny-like face under that mask, dunno why it just seems to fit aside from the ears. The males, in this case, will probably share more bangaa features. Whatever the case, I'm still very excited. Gonna hang onto a fantasia just for that. If I don't like it then I guess I have an extra fantasia :P

Personal guess, Yugiri is closer to the Gria of FFTA2, the long 'ears' under the hood could very well be dull horns and the Gria are part dragon so the short, scaly, lizard tail makes sense on that front. Its just missing visible wings which I assume won't happen because characters that can fly without mounts in FFXIV might be a little op.

crazy idea but.... what about the kangaroo/mouse race from final fantasy 9?

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crazy idea but.... what about the kangaroo/mouse race from final fantasy 9?

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We already have qiqirn as a race of rat people. I doubt they'd make a second, more kawaii version. And Yugiri doesn't seem to have a snout.

I want to believe... I mean, its a freakin' dragon themed expansion...

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Gria

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I want to believe... I mean, its a freakin' dragon themed expansion...

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Gria

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It's dragon-themed, but Yugiri herself (and presumably other members of her race) is not from Ishgard, they're from basically the other side of the world. I don't think the new race will have anything to do with what's happening in Ishgard, other than Yugiri's possible involvement.

Regardless, I still think the "Auri" are reptilian, at the very least.

People have speculated that the protrusions coming out of Yugiri's head could be either ears, or horns. From watching the main story cutscenes I think we can definitely rule out that they are ...

...horns. When we see yugiri in coerthas, at least when I was watching the cutscenes, the wind was blowing. And her ears were blowing with the wind. I think it's safe to assume that horns would not be blown around by the wind.

So by judging from the scales on her tail and the floppy ears, it's looking more and more like she's some sort of beast/reptile hybrid.

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What of the Garleans, then, are they part of the 5 races? Or are they another hyur "tribe"?

Overall, I don't think she's a beast tribe at all. Somebody mentioned an "Auri" this may atleast be the name. Who knows, maybe having a -ri at the end of thier names is part of thier naming convention

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Physically they're just blondies highlanders, however if we count Allagan descendant and genetic manipulation, i'm goin to call Garleans are "mutant hyurs" just like Xande the "mutant Roe" in which the Garlean's third eye function isn't really revealed and the fact they can't use magic or aether manipulation in line with Xande's mutant ear shape and complextion.

It's be FF's version of an Argonian (elder scrolls) I bet.




http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/20...ra-d6pfemr.jpg

So she is a dragon-rabit? Drabit? Makes me wonder if the name Mistwalker refers to her race or her ninja-ness? Whatever the case we can be sure that her very dramatic unmasking will reveal the new race. Imagine Yugiri fighting the bad guy of patch 2.5. A sword slash removes her mask and underneath we see a dragon face that megaflares the hell out of him.

Mistwalker is a reference to Hironobu Sakaguchi's (creator of Final Fantasy) new company, Mistwalker, which has made stuff like Blue Dragon and The Last Story.

I just want to believe, Zetsumei, I just want to believe. Her form looks more like a snowy rabbit with a long tail. I would like it to be a straight up Ivalice race, such as Vierra, but get the definite sense that its going to be something completely original.

Well look at the patch notes about ninja and you'll see thumpity thump thump

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Well look at the patch notes about ninja and you'll see thumpity thump thump

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This is actually the most convincing argument I've seen so far.
(However they pretty much confirmed it was not bunnygirl in the live letter, so...)

With all the viangaa teases I wouldn't be surprised if Yugiri's race is an concept off-shoot of that. (I still want to see them in-game as a beast tribe by the way.)

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Mistwalker is a reference to Hironobu Sakaguchi's (creator of Final Fantasy) new company, Mistwalker, which has made stuff like Blue Dragon and The Last Story.

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I know, but that's not a possible argument in lore. At any rate Lady Yugiri is now at all out war with Y'shtola to be my favorite Scion.

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With all the viangaa teases I wouldn't be surprised if Yugiri's race is an concept off-shoot of that. (I still want to see them in-game as a beast tribe by the way.)

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I agree. There has been alot of playing around with the idea of viangaa but they could be serious.

Mistwalker is her name and if i remember correctly, viera are affected by mist in ivalice. Her tail and ear placement suggest bangaa.

If she turns out to be viangaa im pretty sure the design of he race will still be sleek and easy on the eyes just like the existing 5 races. The design will make sense, they could even create a whole new name for the viangaa race

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The design will make sense, they could even create a whole new name for the viangaa race

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What about...

A Viagra! :P