Any news on PvP adjustments?

The problem still exists we are getting 20+ min queues. Maybe combine data centers for the PvP queue to get people in the game faster. PvP now takes so long to get into a game on top of that the very low PvP exp and wolf marks you get upon finishing a game.

Many people who PvP have the same problem that the queues are way too long.

I think one of the biggest problems is because there isn't much in the way of balance in PVP. Scholars always perform better than White Mages because of Eos, All Warriors have to do to completely outclass Paladins is remove their Soul Crystal and give themselves cross-class abilities, Bards are amazing ranged DPS that never have to stop moving for any reason, Black Mages can sleep an entire party, etc.

PVP screws over Paladins, White Mages, and Melee DPS so bad right now.

I have seen WHMs that were able to keep 3 people and a fairy slept for the whole match while able to take out the other team 1 by 1.

I've seen kickass players in all 9 jobs doing their job correctly, and kicking my ass :P

Black Mages can cast sleep on whole party, but ANY melee hit will interrupt their casting or if someone walks outside the 10degree (if feels that small) window to cast on.

Black Mages are prob rarest class to see in PvP because they can only cast Sleep and terrible DPS Scathe for the most part. Then they get obliterated when attacked by a group of people who have PvP gear.

Hell I am Rank 15 and can get crit by a Warrior's Maim for 1500-1600. Which is great when my HP is around 3200. So add together his rotation and I don't live 10seconds.

Greetings,

Amongst the many PvP adjustments that will take place in patch 2.3, we will also be making adjustments to actions including Sleep. Stay tuned for more detailed information.

I think one of the reasons for the long queues is just a general disinterest in PvP. I personally have only set foot in the Wolves Den once and that was merely for the quest, not participating in any of the actual fights. The general consensus of my friends online is that it's just not a fun experience as it's all arena based and gets dull fast.

Maybe Frontlines will change that. Probably not.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

I think one of the reasons for the long queues is just a general disinterest in PvP.

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I still have yet to see a pvp queue longer than 5 mins, I really don't get what people are griping about.

In 200 matches my longest was 8 mins, it ended when the other team limit breaked me (the healer). Why do we even have Limit Breaks in PVP? No single class is going to be able to withstand a single target Limit Break.

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Originally Posted by SecsyMancat

In 200 matches my longest was 8 mins, it ended when the other team limit breaked me (the healer). Why do we even have Limit Breaks in PVP? No single class is going to be able to withstand a single target Limit Break.

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Any class with attunement will dodge the limit break if used correctly.

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Originally Posted by SecsyMancat

In 200 matches my longest was 8 mins, it ended when the other team limit breaked me (the healer). Why do we even have Limit Breaks in PVP? No single class is going to be able to withstand a single target Limit Break.

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That's why you use Attunement; the limit break will only do ~500 damage. My longest fight was over 10m.

I didn't play PvP at all until recently (mostly because I was fearful I would not do well and drag the rest of a PUG down with me... D; ), but when I finally tried it, I was surprised that I actually enjoyed it. I can definitely see a need for adjustments or fixes (I can't heal through a wall, but bards' arrows can go straight through them?), but people complaining that it's totally broken or not fun at all is really surprising to me... As far as queue times go, I think the longest I waited to get into a match was six minutes, and that was because someone was trolling and registering for duty then not commencing (rise, lather, repeat that process ten times).

I'm interested to see what adjustments come in 2.3 now for sure!

This' great news! Thank you Camate!!

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Originally Posted by Moheeheeko

I still have yet to see a pvp queue longer than 5 mins, I really don't get what people are griping about.

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The higher rank you get the longer the queues take because the system trys to match people with similar rank and it ends up taking 20+ min every time.

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Originally Posted by Moheeheeko

I still have yet to see a pvp queue longer than 5 mins, I really don't get what people are griping about.

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Low ranks get much faster queues. As a rank 34 tank I've had waiting times upwards of 2 hours, thanks to countless 7/8 withdraw trolls. On top of that withdraws seem to break the queue resulting in occasional infinite wait times.

Also, tanks and ranged dps have it the worst from my experience. Healers of similar rank usually get in 2 matches for my 1.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings,

Amongst the many PvP adjustments that will take place in patch 2.3, we will also be making adjustments to actions including Sleep. Stay tuned for more detailed information.

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Are there any adjustments planned for 2.28 other than base skills being unlocked? And is anything ever going to be done about the exploiters in 4v4?

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings,

Amongst the many PvP adjustments that will take place in patch 2.3, we will also be making adjustments to actions including Sleep. Stay tuned for more detailed information.

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So they only thing BLM's are good for in PvP is going to be taken away so heads up guys do not use BLM in pvp any more because there going to be 100% useless!

If they nerf WHMs sleep and bring back the heavy effect from miasma/II ( at least for SCHs) that would be cool.

I'd like to see a PvP roulette (randomly queues you for level 30, 40, or 50) and/or additional Challenge Log bonuses.

I'd love the 3 win, 10 fights bonus to be for each tier (the 30, 40, and 50) and to give scaling EXP and Wolf Marks. I think I'm Rank 15 and the Challenge Log still gives the same EXP bonus as it did at Rank 1. Don't get me wrong, I'll take whatever bonus I can get, but I wish it scaled as rank increased.

Another cool idea would be to have PvP loot drops in dungeons or to even have PvP dungeons.

Players could be dropped in random places in the dungeon, party member locations could be hidden. Throw in random treasure chests, enemies, or other obstacles. Picture Halatali HM for PvP with players dropping spiked balls on other players' heads.

Or have a capture the flag style PvP. There is so much more room for creativity in PvP that I hope Frontlines gives us something that's at least a little better.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

I think one of the reasons for the long queues is just a general disinterest in PvP. I personally have only set foot in the Wolves Den once and that was merely for the quest, not participating in any of the actual fights. The general consensus of my friends online is that it's just not a fun experience as it's all arena based and gets dull fast.

Maybe Frontlines will change that. Probably not.

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What a great outlook to future content.

I for one am excited for Frontlines...and I'm not a huge fan of PVP either.

Also, I don't think they need to nerf sleep directly. Just make the resist sleep materia and/or the black drops a little better. They might not even have to do that with skills being unlocked and greater access to Purify.

I read somecrafters/gatherers are asking for their dungeon/fate,
by the same concept why there is no crafting/gathering PvP? ^^;

I think it is very weird to have another set of gears and skills to serve PvP.
IMO if PvP must be implemented, SE should create a class/job dedicated for PvP, the job level reflects the ranking directly.
A lot of unbalance could be fixed if PvP is not base on exsiting fighting jobs.

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Originally Posted by Nicobo

by the same concept why there is no crafting/gathering PvP? ^^;

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Iron Chef Eorzea.
Please look forward to it.
Nah, j/k. That's stupid.

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Originally Posted by Nicobo

I read somecrafters/gatherers are asking for their dungeon/fate,
by the same concept why there is no crafting/gathering PvP? ^^;

I think it is very weird to have another set of gears and skills to serve PvP.
IMO if PvP must be implemented, SE should create a class/job dedicated for PvP, the job level reflects the ranking directly.
A lot of unbalance could be fixed if PvP is not base on exsiting fighting jobs.

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i agree^^ Would pretty neat; perhaps a gathering competition or something. Classes are classes, if gathering/crafting were merely a mini game; they would not have abilities, cross class skills and gear.

As it pertains to PvP; I would definitely play PvP if there were a dedicated zone for it; if you are in it; you are susceptible to attacks and whatnot. Strategic war.

Lag fest perhaps (never had that problem in XIV, but I am sensitive to others; I have no kids, hence I spend my money on petty crap; computers, and games, etc.).

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Originally Posted by FireHero

So they only thing BLM's are good for in PvP is going to be taken away so heads up guys do not use BLM in pvp any more because there going to be 100% useless!

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Not necessarily. If you recall, they're going to be looking into balancing BLMs somewhat due to their reduced damage output when in a fight that requires them to move around a lot.

With any luck, the reduction of Sleep effectiveness in PVP will be a price to pay for increased damage dealing in PVP. Maybe they'll turn Thunder into an Instant Cast spell and increase Thundercloud's chance of activating? That's how I would make BLMs more effective in PVP.