What status effects or mechanics would you like to see?

One of the great things the Final Fantasy series has brought with it, is it's great variety in how many interesting game mechanics or status effects can be seen. ARR is still in it's early stages so the best has yet to come but there are already some interesting status effects that can be observed. My personal favourite so far is Allagan Rot from Coil Turn 2, where you have to pass the 'doom' like effect around your party.

What are your favourite mechanics so far, what would you like to see added from other games, or what entirely new mechanics would you think of adding if you were in charge of the battle development?

I was thinking maybe they could add a negative DoT status effect like poison, but for your MP/TP instead of HP. (Perhaps with more strength for BLMs who can restore theirs easier)

Here's a list I grabbed from the FF Wikia showing status effects used in the series. Some in the list are already in ARR, and some wouldn't make any sense to be added. However most could be tweaked in somehow so which of these do you think would be worth adding?

Note: Just to clarify, I'm personally not demanding anything here gets added, just opening up the discussion for potential to the game.

TL;DR
What buffs/debuffs/mechanics do you like, and what would you like to see added in the future?

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Originally Posted by Recurring Status Effects

Positive

Blink/Image - Avoid physical attacks for some turns.
Bravery - Has a different effect based on the game. In Final Fantasy XII and Final Fantasy XIII it increases physical attack power, while in Final Fantasy Tactics it is a measure for some attacks' power rather than a status effect.
Clear - Physical attack immunity, but 100% magic hit rate and loss of magical enhancements.
Faith - Similar to Bravery, only it affects the potency of, and vulnerability to, magic in Final Fantasy Tactics, or magic power Final Fantasy XII and Final Fantasy XIII.
Float - Target floats, becoming immune to earth damage and damage from damaging floors. In Final Fantasy XII it also prevents traps from triggering.
Haste - Time taken to execute actions and time until next turn decreases.
Invincible - Grants immunity to all physical and magical attacks but lasts for a very short period of time.
Invisible - Attacks connect less frequently, or makes enemies less likely to detect a player by sight, wears off when attacked or attacks opponent.
Null Magic - Makes afflicted unit immune to magical damage.
Life 3/Auto-Life/Reraise - Automatic revival when Knocked Out.
Protect - Increased physical Defense, or half physical damage.
Reflect - Reflects most magic used against them at caster or to the opposing battle party.
Runic - Allows the user to absorb some attacks and spells as MP equal to the ability's/spell's MP cost. The user must give up their turn, and if the user absorbs an attack/takes another turn, the status wears off.
Regen - Restores HP over time.
Shell - Increased Magic Resistance, or takes half magic damage. In Final Fantasy XII, It also decrease the chance of inflicting bad status.

Neutral

Berserk - Increased Attack and sometimes Speed, but attacks enemies uncontrollably.
Control - Target is under the control of the user and is unable to make any actions of their own. This status can only be applied to monsters and never to the party.
Hide - Target cannot be targeted by anything and is off-screen. Target cannot perform any actions until they return to the battlefield.

Negative

Blind/Darkness - Reduces Accuracy, causing the sufferer's physical attacks to miss most of the time. This was ineffective in Final Fantasy VI due to a bug.
Charm - Victim attacks for the opposing team.
HP Critical - Activates when a units' HP falls below a certain level (usually 25%), this status can trigger some positive status effects depending on the character's equipment.
Condemned/Doom - KO'd after certain amount of time, can be "cured" by ending battle before time runs out.
Confuse - Attacks both enemies and allies indiscriminately and uncontrollably.
Curse - Effects vary depending on the game, but usually causes a drop in many stats and/or disallows the victim from performing Limit Breaks.
Disease - Impairs the recuperation of HP and MP, in various ways.
Disable - Unit cannot attack, but can still move.
Eject - Target is removed from battle and is flagged as dead in most cases.
Freeze - Immobilizes the target similar to Stop, however fire element attacks heal it and physical attacks will often kill the target instantly.
Gradual Petrify/Slow Numb - Similar to Doom, victim turns to Stone after a certain amount of time.
Immobilize - Unit cannot move, but can still attack. Called "Bind" in Final Fantasy XIV.
KO - HP is zero and is unable to take turn. Some skills inflict Instant Death, which KO's a unit regardless of remaining HP.
Oil - Unit takes extra damage from fire-based spells.
Petrify/Stone - Encases in stone, unable to take turn or damaged by attacks. Also, if not cured by end of battle in some games, the afflicted character does not receive EXP/AP.
Poison - Takes damage every turn, or over time.
Reverse - Switches the effects of healing into damage and vice versa.
Seizure/Sap - Takes a small amount of damage constantly.
Silence - Unable to cast magic or sing.
Size/Mini - Shrinks, Defense and/or attack strength greatly decreased.
Sleep - Unable to take turn until woken up by attack or on their own.
Slow - Time taken to execute actions and time until next turn is increased.
Stop - Unable to move or attack until they re-enter time.
Toad - Becomes a frog, attack strength is decreased and can only input the Attack or Frog command.
Venom - A stronger or weaker variant of Poison, depending on the game.
Zombie - Victim becomes Undead, taking damage from healing spells/items. Revivification magic and items KO afflicted units.

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Originally Posted by Game-specific Status Effects

Positive

Aquaveil - In Final Fantasy XI, it decreases the likelihood of a spell being interrupted if the caster is hit.
Aura - In Final Fantasy VIII, the afflicted character is significantly more likely to have access to their Limit Breaks.
Bubble - In Final Fantasy XII, it doubles Max HP.
Charging/Focus - In Final Fantasy IV, dictates the amount of time before an attack used from Focus or Deadly is used. In the DS version, increases the next physical attack and is stackable up to 3 times.
Comradery - In Final Fantasy XIV, maximum HP and MP are increased by 5%, and physical and magic accuracy are enhanced. Granted when in a light party (4 to 7 members).
Costume - Changes the appearance of the player in Final Fantasy XI.
Dance - In Final Fantasy VI and Final Fantasy X-2, a character automatically uses a random ability from the current dance set every turn, and cannot be controlled. The status will not wear off unless another character Dances, the status is exchanged with Rippler, or the character is KO'ed. In Final Fantasy X-2, the effect of the Dance will remain as long as the user is dancing.
Decoy - In Final Fantasy XIV, this is a Archer ability that allows the target to avoid a single ranged or magic attack. A trait learned later makes it also avoid melee attacks.
Dedication - In Final Fantasy XI, it increases experience gained for a set period of time.
Deodorize - In Final Fantasy XI, this status prevents a single target within a party from being pursued by scent or detected by low HP status.
Dirge - In Final Fantasy XI, this is a song that grants a reduction of enmity to on targeted party member.
Interceptor Guard - In Final Fantasy VI, a status exclusive to Shadow. Interceptor randomly blocks physical attacks (even attacks from behind, which are normally unblockable) for the character, occasionally counterattacking for non-elemental damage with Takedown or Wild Fang.
Double - In Final Fantasy VIII, it enables units to cast any two magic spells in a single turn. This status effect, under the name Doublecast, is also present a free Special ability allowing to cast two Black Magic spells in a row.
Enspell - In Final Fantasy XI, grants additional damage of an elemental type determined by what type of spell it is (ie: Enfire grants additional fire damage).
False Image - In Final Fantasy V, a status that is granted only to clones of Wendigo and Pantera, making the user immune to physical attacks.
Flee - In Final Fantasy XI, flee is considered a status effect, increasing movement speed.
Jump - In Final Fantasy IV, it is a hidden status given when the Jump command is issued. The higher the Agility of the user, the longer this status lasts. The user will be unable to be targeted until they land, and all timers on statuses will halt.
Lucky Girl - In Final Fantasy VII, all hits are Critical Hits.
Nul— - In Final Fantasy X, NulBlaze, NulFrost, NulShock, and NulTide grants immunity to one Fire, Ice, Lightning, and Water attack respectively.
Pax - In Final Fantasy XI, it grants a reduction in enmity gained for a short period of time.
Performing - In Final Fantasy Tactics, the status is given when a unit is using the Bardsong command or the Dance command. The unit will continuously sing/dance the chosen song/dance endlessly until the player picks another ability which will end the current song/dance.
Phalanx - In Final Fantasy XI, grants a certain amount of damage resistance.
Potency - In Final Fantasy XI, this status increases the rate of critical hits.
Rage - In Final Fantasy VI, the status given through the Rage command of Gau. Character will act automatically each turn, with a 3/4 chance of using a physical and a 1/4 chance of using a special attack. Rage characters will also gain special properties of the chosen monster, which includes elemental defenses, resistances, and weaknesses, status resistances and immunities, and several other miscellaneous things. Can only be removed through Rippler spell or getting KO.
Regain - In Final Fantasy XI, this status increases TP by 3TP per tick for 3 minutes.
Reprisal - In Final Fantasy XI, this status increases the likelihood a Paladin will block with his shield and reflects 1/3rd of the damage taken from blocked hits back onto the attacker.
Singing - In Final Fantasy V, the status is given when using the Sing command, and renders the user unable to act until finished singing. While in this status, the party's appropriate stat will increase during the duration. This status is only given when using Sinewy Etude, Mana's Paean, Swift Song, or Hero's Rime.
Sirvente - In Final Fantasy XI, this status is granted by a bard song and decreases the rate of enmity loss functionally helping one party member maintain much greater hate.
Stoneskin - In Final Fantasy XI and Final Fantasy XIV, it grants a certain amount of protection against physical damage.
Sneak - In Final Fantasy XI, this status prevents a single target within a party from being detected by sound.
Synthesis Image Support - In Final Fantasy XI, this grants a bonus towards people performing item synthesis.
Strength in Numbers - In Final Fantasy XIV, maximum HP and MP are increased by 10%, and physical and magic accuracy are enhanced. Granted when in a full party (8 members).
Trance - In Final Fantasy VI, given through the Trance ability by Terra Branford. Adds a 100% bonus to physical and magical damage except defense-ignoring attacks, and halves magic damage taken except defense-ignoring attacks. Expires when the ATB gauge for Trance runs out or at the end of battle.
Triple - In Final Fantasy VIII, it enables units to cast any three magic spells in a single turn.
Well Fed - In Final Fantasy XIV, this status is set when a player eats a food item, and indicates he's under the effect of stats benefits and exp bonuses provided by the food.

Neutral

All Lucky 7s - In Final Fantasy VII, it gives 64 consecutive hits for 7777 and takes off 7777 for every hit at the same HP thereafter. However, after winning a battle, any character with 7777 HP will end up with only 1 HP remaining in the menu screen.
Atheist - In Final Fantasy Tactics, also known as Innocence, decreases a character's Faith to 0, meaning that any spells they cast deal 0 damage or have a 0% hit rate, but they also will not receive any magic damage.
Chant - In Final Fantasy VI, this is the state Relm (or Gogo) enters when Controlling an enemy.
Fury - In Final Fantasy VII, the afflicted character's Limit Break gauge fills quicker but their physical attacks are more likely to miss.
Magitek - In Final Fantasy VI, this status is set when the party is riding Imperial Magitek Armor. The first command slot (Attack and Gau's Rage) is replaced with the Magitek command. All other commands except Magic, Dualcast, Items, and Mimic are disabled.
Sadness - Also in Final Fantasy VII, the afflicted character receives less physical damage, but their Limit gauge fills slower.

Negative

Addle - In Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, a character suffering from Addle cannot remember any ability mastered. A similar status effect in Final Fantasy XI and Final Fantasy XIV, Amnesia makes characters forget their job abilities.
Brink of Death - In Final Fantasy XIV, a character suffering from Brink of Death has 50% reduction in max HP, MP, attack, magic potency, defense and magic evasion for 3 minutes. Inflicted only by being revived by a non Conjurer / White Mage raise spell after being KO'd under the Weakness stat.
Chicken - In Final Fantasy Tactics, a character will turn into a chicken and only flee to a corner of the battlefield.
Dread - In Bravely Default, it prevents the target from using the Brave or Default commands. It is caused by Fear.
Exposed - In Final Fantasy XIV, target takes increased damage when hit by a specific direction (ex: Exposed Rear grants bonus damage to back attacks).
Gear Damage / Heavy Gear Damage - In Final Fantasy XIV, indicates one piece of equipment is damaged and is offering diminished stats.
Heavy - In Final Fantasy XIV, a character inflicted with heavy has it's movement speed reduced.
Heat - In Final Fantasy IX, a character inflicted with Heat will instantly KO if any action is taken. A similar effect is also given when Edgar uses his Air Anchor tool in Final Fantasy VI.
Imp - In Final Fantasy VI, a character will turn into an imp and have their offensive and defensive power drastically reduced, as well as unable to use any magic abilities other than Imp.
Imperil - Lowers elemental resistances in Final Fantasy XIII. In Final Fantasy XIV, Imperil reduces all character stats.
Imprisoned - In Final Fantasy VII, the victim is flagged as dead and is unable to fight until released.
Incapacitation - In Final Fantasy XIV, one or more of the target's body parts in broken. Changes monsters loot tables, stats and abilities.
Itchy - In Final Fantasy X-2, a character inflicted with Itchy is only capable of changing Dresspheres, and is unable to take any other action in battle. However, the status can be easily removed by sphere-changing into another Dressphere.
Lamed - In Final Fantasy XIV, lamed is a stat effect exclusive to mounts; mount movement speed is reduced.
Lure - In Final Fantasy XII, lure is a status effect that causes all enemies to target the character inflicted with the status.
Magnetize - In Final Fantasy IV, prevents the party from using metallic weapons by paralyzing them for the entire battle, and if all characters are in this status, the game is over.
Old - In Final Fantasy V, a character's hair will turn white, and their stats will drop turn after turn during battle.
Pacification - In Final Fantasy XIV, prevents the target from using weaponskills.
Pain - Disables the use of physical attacks in Final Fantasy XIII.
Pig - In Final Fantasy IV, a victim inflicted with Pig becomes a pig, and his or her offensive and defensive efficiency are greatly reduced. Additionally, characters normally able to use magic have their selection of spells greatly reduced.
Plague - In Final Fantasy XI, gradually decreases both MP and TP over time.
Terror - In Final Fantasy XI, temporarily prevents the target from acting and freezes their body.
TP Bleed - In Final Fantasy XIV, character's TP is constantly decreased.
Traitor - In Final Fantasy Tactics, also known as Invitation, makes character defect to the opponent's side.
Trouble - In Final Fantasy IX, when a character or enemy in Trouble status takes physical damage, half of that damage is also dealt to their allies.
Vampire - In Final Fantasy Tactics, also known as Blood Suck, makes character uncontrollable and only use Drain HP from other characters.
Virus - In Final Fantasy IX, a character inflicted with Virus does not receive Experience Points and Ability Points at the end of battle. This was also featured in Final Fantasy X-2 as the Pointless status ailment.
Vit 0 - In Final Fantasy VIII, a character inflicted with Vit 0 has no defense against physical attacks. It also appears to affect every enemy. The spell Meltdown, Quistis's Acid Limit Break and the GF Doomtrain are the only ways that inflict Vit 0. This status is also featured in Final Fantasy X, under the name Armor Break.
Weakened - In Final Fantasy XI, a character receives Weakened status after being revived. Their health and magic is reduced by 75% for five minutes. In Final Fantasy XIV, a weakened character loses 25% of their max HP and MP for 3 minutes.
Wound - In Final Fantasy XIII-2, it is hidden status effect which reduces character's maximum HP.
X-Zone - In Final Fantasy XII, the Demon Wall may cast Telega, causing one or more characters to be "cast into the void". They are no longer visible or controllable, and the character gets the status X-Zone. This effect can't be removed by any item or spell, and can only be removed by leaving the area.

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http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Status_Effect

Bar spells, also slow and fast. We have slow but it hardly does anything at all.

For black mages I'd like to see full range of elemental spells like in other ff games.

haste!!!! :3 and double attack/ tripple attack (works on spells too ! ) , triple flare proc lawl

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Originally Posted by Seif

Bar spells, also slow and fast. We have slow but it hardly does anything at all.

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I'd like to see Slow and Heavy be involved in mechanics the way Stun often is - for instance, if Slow reduced the "charge up" rate of a boss preparing his big instant kill so you can do damage enough to disable it, or if there were immortal mobs that chased certain players but had no Heavy resistance, meaning you need to kite them and Heavy to have time to do other things. However, due to the fact that no party can be guaranteed to have access to these, it's unlikely.

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Originally Posted by Warlyx

haste!!!! :3 and double attack/ tripple attack (works on spells too ! ) , triple flare proc lawl

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I think the devs already confirmed that haste as a spell would basically be broken. You might see a self-cast Haste on a DPS class in the future, but it'd likely be balanced around having it.

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Originally Posted by Garlyle

I'd like to see Slow and Heavy be involved in mechanics the way Stun often is - for instance, if Slow reduced the "charge up" rate of a boss preparing his big instant kill so you can do damage enough to disable it, or if there were immortal mobs that chased certain players but had no Heavy resistance, meaning you need to kite them and Heavy to have time to do other things. However, due to the fact that no party can be guaranteed to have access to these, it's unlikely.

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Both healers actually have access to Heavy/Heavy-like effects. WHM has Stone (I don't blame you if you forgot about it) and SCH's Miasma has Disease which also reduces movement speed.

I think the 'mutant opo opos' in the lost city of Amdapor use a skill that inflicts sadness. I don't think its the same sadness as listed above though. The worst part of this post.... I can't remember the mob, the instance, or the skills name.... sadface.

I just know it's the skill where the mob says mean things to you, and the sadness. made me lmao the first time i saw it.

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Originally Posted by Garlyle

I'd like to see Slow and Heavy be involved in mechanics the way Stun often is - for instance, if Slow reduced the "charge up" rate of a boss preparing his big instant kill so you can do damage enough to disable it, or if there were immortal mobs that chased certain players but had no Heavy resistance, meaning you need to kite them and Heavy to have time to do other things. However, due to the fact that no party can be guaranteed to have access to these, it's unlikely.


I think the devs already confirmed that haste as a spell would basically be broken. You might see a self-cast Haste on a DPS class in the future, but it'd likely be balanced around having it.

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If it only increases auto-attack by 15% for 10-15 seconds it'll be just fine.

I would like to see a negative version of cover, where the boss attacks a tank and the healer takes damage instead. Maybe like if there is an 8 man party and it's split into two, and the damage one party takes transfers over to the other?

Frog / Toad.

Annoyingly hilarious.

But I also want a Ribbon accessory!

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Originally Posted by Wadoka

Frog / Toad.

Annoyingly hilarious.

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Do your Hildibrand quests when you hit level 50. You'll be pleasantly surprised with the trial you eventually unlock~

Greased Lightning, Presence of Mind, Selene's buffs are all essentially haste.

Slow's effect is quite noticeable actually. Especially on mages.

A Haste ability that significantly increased Skill Speed (not AA speed) to the point of like 0.5-1 second GCD would be amazing. Although it would almost certainly have to be a 10-15 second-type buff, similar to the Mega Potions, and I could see misuse easily causing parties to wipe based on terrible TP management.

I enjoy seeing enemies do things like cast Fear / Charm / Berserk on party members. There's always something interesting about watching us murder eachother.


I'd also love to see abilities that actually exploit Physical and Elemental resistances. It would do nothing for current abilities, but would allow for combo abilities between classes.



Also, combining elemental Debuffs/Attacks between like classes or jobs would give a neat benefit for cross-classing.

Due to how frequent attacks are, I don't see Blink being a very effective spell, not unless they made it utterly game breaking balance wise.

Reraise is the effect I'd like to see - it would have to have a long cool down though to stop blatant abuse - maybe have Phoenix Downs (which are very rare items) instead of raising a party member they instead give the player a Reraise effect, but once used can't be used again for an hour or something to avoid people exploiting in Titan or Coil for instance.

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Originally Posted by Garlyle

Do your Hildibrand quests when you hit level 50. You'll be pleasantly surprised with the trial you eventually unlock~

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Thanks. I've been PLD 50 for about 4 months but I'd never seen a good-enough reason to go check out the Ace Investigator - until now!

Confuse and Berserk

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Due to how frequent attacks are, I don't see Blink being a very effective spell, not unless they made it utterly game breaking balance wise.

Reraise is the effect I'd like to see - it would have to have a long cool down though to stop blatant abuse - maybe have Phoenix Downs (which are very rare items) instead of raising a party member they instead give the player a Reraise effect, but once used can't be used again for an hour or something to avoid people exploiting in Titan or Coil for instance.

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BLMs sort of have a blink ability as it is, with Manawall. Sure it's only a 2-hit physical damage nullifier but it's still proved useful in endgame content like Titan extreme landslides.

I think reraise would be a good idea but you'd have to have some enemies be able to dispel it from you for their enrage mechanics to work intentionally. Otherwise it's essentially just having a spare swiftcast -> raise automated. Like you say, with a long cool down it wouldn't be abused.

How about they fix weakness first?

How come, when sh*t hits the fan, it's easier to just give up, wipe and run back (thanks shortcuts!) than try to fight against the odds? And raising gives you a weakness penalty when wiping doesn't?

If anything surviving a tough situation with in-battle raises should be encouraged because it's so much more fun when you come out with MP at 0 and everyone sharing sighs of relief.

I mean if you wipe and monsters respawned that'd be fine since there's lost time there, but at least hit wiped parties with a severe weakness, no one plays seriously in a dungeon anymore when you can just brush off a wipe and sprint back. This just encourages speed runs, if you pull 10 mobs and die well you take the risk of a wipe, but if that risk is not there why not.

Of course dungeons only (not trials)

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Originally Posted by Litre

How about they fix weakness first?

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You mean preventing sac pulls? In old FFXI you could de-level because you would lose experience whenever you died. SE decided that de-levelling was too harsh for today's gamers though. We do take more severe gear damage when we die though, so there is that.

Just wondering, does anyone think status/elemental resistance stats will ever become useful for endgame encounters? They don't really appear to be of any use at the moment.

More Death effects would make it feel more like FF, also Zombie would be nice to see. Being able to cast zombie on a target and then heal to DPS :D. Raise might also work in that situation too, though it might be good on a boss fight and you had to get the monsters down quickly.

Morbols however are exactly as I remember them in every FF, I hate them >.>.

Tonberries should get a buff, they were so hard every time you encountered them and in ARR they are not hard.

Since only limited status icons could be displayed on the party list for each member, so maybe... ^^;

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

More Death effects would make it feel more like FF, also Zombie would be nice to see. Being able to cast zombie on a target and then heal to DPS :D. Raise might also work in that situation too, though it might be good on a boss fight and you had to get the monsters down quickly.

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Did you ever play FFX's boss fight against Yunalesca? Now that had some pretty creative play with status effects. For those who missed it, basically you were penalized for doing things normally.

You would get blind cast on you for doing physical attacks, silence cast on you for using magic spells and any special attack would get you slept.

To spice things up even more, you would get the whole party status inflicted with zombie (so healing them would hurt them), which you could remove. But you zombie inflicted to survive her instant death attacks ^^.

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

Tonberries should get a buff, they were so hard every time you encountered them and in ARR they are not hard.

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I think Tonberries did feel a bit tough when Wanderer's Palace first came out, it's just now everyone's over geared for it. So they feel pretty squishy.

id like to see resistances and buffs played out in this game. right now the job/combat system is dreadfully bland. and the only thing they can do is make you have to dodge stuff... that's not how an rpg game is supposed to be.. final fantasy has never been a hack n slash game lol not sure why they did it on this one... but like in other ff games.. drgs could intimidate dragons or do higher dmg to wyvern type mobs.. elementals were crushed by mages... flying mobs were weak to piercing.. hard mobs were weak to blunt.. why is none of this in ffxiv? you literally don't have to think in this game.. well not to the extent im used to.. you just have to dodge stuff and dps, tank, heal.. there is really no final fantasy traits. id love to see them come into this game.

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Originally Posted by omfgwtf

id like to see resistances and buffs played out in this game. right now the job/combat system is dreadfully bland. and the only thing they can do is make you have to dodge stuff... that's not how an rpg game is supposed to be.. final fantasy has never been a hack n slash game lol not sure why they did it on this one... but like in other ff games.. drgs could intimidate dragons or do higher dmg to wyvern type mobs.. elementals were crushed by mages... flying mobs were weak to piercing.. hard mobs were weak to blunt.. why is none of this in ffxiv? you literally don't have to think in this game.. well not to the extent im used to.. you just have to dodge stuff and dps, tank, heal.. there is really no final fantasy traits. id love to see them come into this game.

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I agree, there is a great simplicity in place to the general flow of battle. We have systems in place for:

Elemental Resistances:
- Fire
- Ice
- Wind
- Earth
- Lightning
- Water

Status Resistances
- Slow
- Silence
- Blind
- Poison
- Stun
- Sleep
- Bind
- Heavy

Physical
- Slashing
- Piercing
- Blunt

but nobody is really concerned what any of the values they have for these properties they have. All that matters are your core attributes, your rotation and dodging. The thing I'm really confused about at the moment is what good it's going in the long term for SMNs. As more egis get added, without any elemental wheel we're just going to keep making more egis obsolete for maximizing DPS.

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Originally Posted by NovaUltimatum

but nobody is really concerned what any of the values they have for these properties they have. All that matters are your core attributes, your rotation and dodging.

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Well, Stun or Sleep resistance are actually pretty highly valued in PvP. That aside, the major difficulty in designing content around these things is the choice you end up on:
1. The use of ailments/elements isn't so deadly as to require these things, in which case people ignore them.
2. The use of ailment/elemental resistance becomes necessary to handle a fight - in which case, classes without the proper tools can't participate, players that haven't farmed up a bunch of x gear can't participate/get complained at because they're ill equipped for the fight, etc; creating content that an even smaller segment of the playerbase has the gear to actually tackle.

2 is a valid route of design, but XIV is probably not going to take that route, not without a significant set of changes.

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Originally Posted by Seif

Bar spells, also slow and fast. We have slow but it hardly does anything at all.

For black mages I'd like to see full range of elemental spells like in other ff games.

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I'm sorry but when slow is put on me as a WHM, I better cast Esuna on myself or my team dies

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Originally Posted by NovaUltimatum

I agree, there is a great simplicity in place to the general flow of battle. We have systems in place for:

Elemental Resistances:
- Fire
- Ice
- Wind
- Earth
- Lightning
- Water

Status Resistances
- Slow
- Silence
- Blind
- Poison
- Stun
- Sleep
- Bind
- Heavy

Physical
- Slashing
- Piercing
- Blunt

but nobody is really concerned what any of the values they have for these properties they have. All that matters are your core attributes, your rotation and dodging. The thing I'm really confused about at the moment is what good it's going in the long term for SMNs. As more egis get added, without any elemental wheel we're just going to keep making more egis obsolete for maximizing DPS.

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I feel like we need more content that relies on resistance of elements and such. I remember playing Diablo II back in the day, and when you get to Hell mode you'd BETTER have some good Elemental resistence or you're going nowhere

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Originally Posted by Garlyle

Well, Stun or Sleep resistance are actually pretty highly valued in PvP. That aside, the major difficulty in designing content around these things is the choice you end up on:
1. The use of ailments/elements isn't so deadly as to require these things, in which case people ignore them.
2. The use of ailment/elemental resistance becomes necessary to handle a fight - in which case, classes without the proper tools can't participate, players that haven't farmed up a bunch of x gear can't participate/get complained at because they're ill equipped for the fight, etc; creating content that an even smaller segment of the playerbase has the gear to actually tackle.

2 is a valid route of design, but XIV is probably not going to take that route, not without a significant set of changes.

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Good point about PvP, I forgot it's useful there. My post is directed purely at PvE in that case. We already have useful mechanics available on some but not all jobs though (i.e. silence/stuns that can interrupt mob mechanics).

As for requiring them, you just need to make sure that the scaling is done right so there's a noticeable help with having attribute/elemental gear than not focusing on it at all. Parties should still be able to clear content without them, they just can't make use of the enemy weakness as much.

For those of you who wanted confuse in the game we have it.

Turn 8 Brain jack.

Main tank gets brain jacked and in THEORY they are suppose to swap with the non brain jacked tank. I think a lot of people do the one tank method that completely bypasses it.

Its a pretty funny mechanic particulary when a dps who is targeted by the brain jacked tank runs away from him, you see this funny chase scene. Of course it also means your probably going to wipe when the avatar targets the main tank with its cleave attack.

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Originally Posted by Cessna

For those of you who wanted confuse in the game we have it.

Turn 8 Brain jack.

Main tank gets brain jacked and in THEORY they are suppose to swap with the non brain jacked tank. I think a lot of people do the one tank method that completely bypasses it.

Its a pretty funny mechanic particulary when a dps who is targeted by the brain jacked tank runs away from him, you see this funny chase scene. Of course it also means your probably going to wipe when the avatar targets the main tank with its cleave attack.

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It would be a nice challenge if they tweaked this a bit and added the similar kind of confusion we had in FFXI called "charm". Rather than be a mindless zombie, you'd be completely controlled by the boss to assist with attacking the rest of the party. Imagine how scary it would be if your burst DPS jobs turned against you and started using heavy nukes.

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Originally Posted by NovaUltimatum

It would be a nice challenge if they tweaked this a bit and added the similar kind of confusion we had in FFXI called "charm". Rather than be a mindless zombie, you'd be completely controlled by the boss to assist with attacking the rest of the party.

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If they included charm it would be interesting if they could program it so that the AI could gather data on your rotation-- and then mimic a similar rotation against a random (non-tank) party member.

An alternative to charm could be something like "clones" that mimic your most used actions and gear. I think FFXI had something like that in the final boss fight to one of the add-ons (A crystalline prophecy?) and it wasn't the most sophisticated AI, but still a cool concept.

Toad

more Paralyze and Slows

Forgetfulness (random skill on bar is greyed out, messing with rotations/mitigations)

a Sanction scroll for end-game gear instead of just grand company stuff

fast attacks that target the floor and can be jumped over, or more importance placed on vertical positioning in general, assuming they don't have problems with LoS etc.

Blood damage in FFXIII-2 was interesting, although it never affected the fights unless they dragged on for too long.