Dual Monitor Full Screen Crashing - 1080p

I am getting pretty frustrated with this I have read plenty of people being able to play 1080p borderless window but this resolution does not show up for me. It keeps setting it to 720p even after I put in the resolution manually.

It plays fine in full screen 1080p but when I try to go to my second monitor the game crashes and freezes my PC forcing me to hard boot. On my second monitor I run programs like teamspeak, internet browsers etc, this makes it convenient or me over the ALT tab or having to back out and go to a program. As soon as I mouse out or come out of full screen the game locks up on me, it runs 100% fine with single monitor being used.

2x ATI HD-6990 in Crossfire

can someone please help, again I have read where people could just type in the 1080p resolution but when I do it just reverts back to 720p.

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PROBLEM SOLVED !!!

After running my HDMI cable directly to the TV that still didn't fix it which I was pretty upset about but it did give me a big jump in FPS. I was about to just give up when I thought I would check my font/icon settings. Since I play about 8' from my 60" TV i increased the size to 150% so I could read the text and icons.

BINGO !

As soon as I loaded FFXI it let me play 1080p borderless windowed, again this was bittersweet as I got it working but the huge drop now in FPS for not using my other card in Crossfire. After doing some more testing and checking that my iPad still was working as a 2nd monitor I was ready to try and test backing out of the game to go to my desktop. To my suprise this worked just as it should, I was able to exit the game and go back in with no crashing. I was reluctant to attempt to click on my iPad monitor as that might cause another crash but it worked fine too.

Solution: I guess you cannot increase your font/icon size for windows and play to your full desktop resolution in Borderless WIndowed or for playing Full Screen with Dual Monitors.

More information to add I am using an app called Air Display on my iPad for the extended desktop area. It works fine while the game is running but when I tab out or minimize FFXIV the PC locks up completely.

I still assume the game needs to be in full screen to run SLI or Crossfire ?

Well after another 3 more hours spent trying to get it to work I realized that Borderless Window doesn't play in 1080p it just cant. It plays at 720p and stretches to fill your screen or monitor, this might not be an issue for some users but it makes me want to bang my keyboard on my head. You can see the quality lost on the text and UI playing changing from 720p from 1080p, even changing the size of the UI the skill icons and text are pixelated.

So it looks like I am back to trying to figure out how to play in Full Screen with a dual monitor for other programs and applications.

I play in Borderless Window but it's not a SLI/CrossFire GPU, it certainly is running in 1080p and with hardware acceleration. The GPU is nVidia GT730m, primary display is external 1080p display with notebook LCD (1080p as well) for my browser for in-game research etc.

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Originally Posted by TheFirstKel

I play in Borderless Window but it's not a SLI/CrossFire GPU, it certainly is running in 1080p and with hardware acceleration. The GPU is nVidia GT730m, primary display is external 1080p display with notebook LCD (1080p as well) for my browser for in-game research etc.

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Do I need to tell my video card to upscale or something ?

The resolution on the tv does say 1080p but you can see that it has lost clarity changing from Full Screen 1080p to Borderless Window.

For those who played FFXI it is similar to the issues where you had to do a registry edit to change the UI resoltion and the background resolution.

It just doesn't look as good in Borderless WIndow as it does in Full Screen.

Isnt your character in the middle of the split in the screens with a dual screen set up ?

How do you play like that ?

Hmm... It certainly is 1080p as all screenshots and the monitor info reports 1920x1080 resolution.

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Originally Posted by Varhaatus

Isnt your character in the middle of the split in the screens with a dual screen set up ?

How do you play like that ?

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The 2nd monitor is running as an extended desktop not one big array.

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Originally Posted by TheFirstKel

Hmm... It certainly is 1080p as all screenshots and the monitor info reports 1920x1080 resolution.

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I undertand the monitor would say 1080p but I do not think the game is running in 1080p, Windows is running in 1080p but the game I feel is running at 720p and upsaling to fill the size of the screen.

A good example of this is change your game to 720p full screen and see if your TV changes from 1080p to 720p, it should stay at 1080p as that is the resolution of Windows.

I am wondering if I might be having an issue with HDMI handshaking with my A/V receiver and FFXIV not reporting the correct resolution from the monitor. If the game truley does just run off the desktop resolution though this wouldn't be an issue.

What other programs are you running, does it happen when you have the ipad thing completely turned off, does it happen if you disable SLI? Do you have the game set to lock the mouse to the game window?

You do realise that when you select borderless windowed, the 'resolution' controls within FFXIV are disabled, and match the resolution that windows is using, right? The numbers listed under 'custom' are just the default settings for if you change off borderless windowed - they're not the settings currently being applied.

You can't make FFXIV run 'full screen' or 'borderless' in a different resolution to your desktop.

ETA: Also running a fullhd monitor alongside another, on ATI GPU (6950) without any issues.

Mine is definitely 1080p as my GUI/HUD are all over and occupying the edge of the screen in smallest display size, once I was in lower resolution (not quite 720p) they HUD elements all bunched up. So on that reason, I know it is definitely in 1080p.

May quite possible that iPad AirDisplay that cause the issue that it's not rendering in the full aspect? And double check to see which is the display output set at. Try out as what Meric suggested, take things down all the way to single GPU, not other extra display stuff on/enabled, then try SLI, then bring back on the AirDisplay.

p/s: I have used AirDisplay for short period many months ago, but not during/while gaming. I found that AirDisplay is working slow-as dog and totally removed it in the end as I don't see it be any useful or beneficial.

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Originally Posted by Meric

What other programs are you running, does it happen when you have the ipad thing completely turned off, does it happen if you disable SLI? Do you have the game set to lock the mouse to the game window?

The 720p in Borderless Window is happening with no other programs running, I am trying to do 1080p borderless windowed as a solution to FFXIV crashing when I come out of full screen and go to the other monitor. Crossfire On/Off it doesn't affect anything, same results.

You do realise that when you select borderless windowed, the 'resolution' controls within FFXIV are disabled, and match the resolution that windows is using, right? The numbers listed under 'custom' are just the default settings for if you change off borderless windowed - they're not the settings currently being applied.

You can't make FFXIV run 'full screen' or 'borderless' in a different resolution to your desktop.

I understand that is how it is supposed to work, but then why is it playing in 720p ? I desktop is set to 1080p 60Hz that is why this is so damn frustrating.

ETA: Also running a fullhd monitor alongside another, on ATI GPU (6950) without any issues.

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Here are my screen shots of 1080p Full Screen and then when I changed to Borderless WIndow

Can someone please tell me what the heck I am doing wrong here ?

http://shaunb.dyndns.tv/images/fullscreen.png

http://shaunb.dyndns.tv/images/borderless.png

* I made the chat box smaller before taking the screenshots to avoid any FC chat

this is from my config file and it shows screen mode 2 which I assume is borderless window and the 1080p resolution, but as you can see from the screenshots it actually plays in 720p

<Display Settings>
MainAdapter
ScreenLeft 0
ScreenTop 22
ScreenWidth 1920
ScreenHeight 1080
ScreenMode 2
FullScreenWidth 1920
FullScreenHeight 1080
Refreshrate 60
Fps 0
AntiAliasing 0
FPSInActive 1
ResoMouseDrag 1
MouseOpeLimit 0
LangSelectSub 0
Gamma 50

<Graphics Settings>
TextureFilterQuality 2
TextureAnisotropicQuality 1
SSAO 2
Glare 2
DepthOfField 1
RadialBlur 1
Vignetting 1
GrassQuality 3
TranslucentQuality 1
ShadowVisibilityType 2
ShadowSoftShadowType 0
ShadowTextureSizeType 1
ShadowCascadeCountType 2
LodType 1
StreamingType 0
GeneralQuality 1
OcclusionCulling 1
ShadowLOD 1
PhysicsType 1
MapResolution 1
ShadowVisibilityTypeSelf 1
ShadowVisibilityTypeParty 0
ShadowVisibilityTypeOther 0
ShadowVisibilityTypeEnemy 1
PhysicsTypeSelf 0
PhysicsTypeParty 1
PhysicsTypeOther 1
PhysicsTypeEnemy 2
ReflectionType 0
ScreenShotImageType 0

Try disabling CrossFire and just run under single GPU? It is very weird there. My Borderless Window is definitely 1080p and in perfect crisp look, but my GPU is nVidia GT730m.

Also, try with another monitor instead of your TV?

p/s: found your query on AMD.com: http://forums.amd.com/game/messagevi...hreadid=171267

Well I am kinda shocked nobody from AMD was willing to even give an attempt to help me.

I will be moving to a GTX690 and will not be returning as an ATI/AMD customer.

PROBLEM SOLVED !!!

After running my HDMI cable directly to the TV that still didn't fix it which I was pretty upset about but it did give me a big jump in FPS. I was about to just give up when I thought I would check my font/icon settings. Since I play about 8' from my 60" TV i increased the size to 150% so I could read the text and icons.

BINGO !

As soon as I loaded FFXI it let me play 1080p borderless windowed, again this was bittersweet as I got it working but the huge drop now in FPS for not using my other card in Crossfire. After doing some more testing and checking that my iPad still was working as a 2nd monitor I was ready to try and test backing out of the game to go to my desktop. To my suprise this worked just as it should, I was able to exit the game and go back in with no crashing. I was reluctant to attempt to click on my iPad monitor as that might cause another crash but it worked fine too.

Solution: I guess you cannot increase your font/icon size for windows and play to your full desktop resolution in Borderless WIndowed or for playing Full Screen with Dual Monitors.

I see, you've set a display scaling... that wee culprit... Isn't GTX690 a SLI-in-one-card? I'm not entirely sold on SLI gaming seeing that many games still aren't actually tapping full potential of SLI-ness without many issues.

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Originally Posted by TheFirstKel

I see, you've set a display scaling... that wee culprit... Isn't GTX690 a SLI-in-one-card? I'm not entirely sold on SLI gaming seeing that many games still aren't actually tapping full potential of SLI-ness without many issues.

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It is a dual GPU card but as far as I know it does not need to run in SLI to use both GPU's, I could be wrong here. Either way it is better then my 2 year old setup now with a lot more room for cooling and OC.

Would it cost similarily to GTC 780ti? If so, why not just get the latter instead?

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Originally Posted by TheFirstKel

Would it cost similarily to GTC 780ti? If so, why not just get the latter instead?

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GTX690 is $999.99 and last I looked been the most powerful hobby card you can get, I looked at the Ti models and I already have 3Gb with my (2) ATI 6990.

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The GTX 690 has a 40 MHz higher core clock speed and 80 more Render Output Units than the GTX 780 Ti. This results in the GTX 690 providing 75.1 GPixel/s better pixeling performance. However, both GPUs support DirectX 9 or above, and pixeling performance is only really relevant when comparing older cards.

The GTX 780 Ti was released over a year more recently than the GTX 690, and so the GTX 780 Ti is likely to have better driver support, meaning it will be more optimized for running the latest games.

Both GPUs exhibit very powerful performance, so it probably isn't worth upgrading from one to the other, as both are capable of running even the most demanding games at the highest settings.

The GTX 690 has 5120 MB more video memory than the GTX 780 Ti, so is likely to be much better at displaying game textures at higher resolutions. This is supported by the fact that the GTX 690 also has superior memory performance overall.

The bottom line is Nvidia is pulling out all the stops with the GTX 780 Ti in an effort to shame the R9 290X, and once again establish itself as the king of the single-GPU space. It should be noted that the GTX 780 Ti does not offer Double Precision compute performance like the GTX Titan, so CUDA developers will still prefer that card. The GTX 780 Ti is made for gamers, not scientists.

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Worth checking the specs between the two: GTX 690 vs GTX 780 Ti