Post Your Healing Horror Stories.

Shadowbringers, Dohn Mheg as WHM:
After running the dungeon first using the lovely trust system where I am guaranteed a reliable tank, I decided I wanted a full set of healing gear from this dungeon and that it might be faster with a regular party. I've seen the mechanics at this point and am comfortable with them. I get put into what appears to be a normal party, and we begin immediately, so no gear peeking from me. Tank rushes into the first mob, then pulls to the next, and the next. I am thinking "Wow, he must be confident. Okay." I am also hoping the DPS are good because my DPS as a WHM has been cut to basically useless. After only a few seconds, his HP is jumping down way more than it should. I am spamming every heal I got on him and he is barely clinging onto life with like 10% HP. Damage and aggro is flying off him to everyone else in the party until we finally all die. I realize this guy really shouldn't have pulled as much as he did. Oh well. Try again with a smaller pull, right?

Nah. Mr. Tank didn't wanna do that. Second time, he pulls EVEN MORE, and I am seething in my chair, panicking, spamming heals like pure madness. My MP is at the mercy of the gods. I use everything I can to maintain this pure chaos as not only can the tank not withstand damage, he can't hold aggro, so it's bouncing around all over the party. I put up Asylum fast, cause hells know we need it.

However, Mr. Tank has decided he is too good for Asylum, and therefore so is the rest of the party. He immediately gets OUT of the asylum bubble, thus dragging the giant mob and DPS with him. This entire time, he also appears to be playing some game of hopscotch around the area that only he can see. By some miracle of the divines, we make it out of this pull alive, with my MP completely drained and the tank at like 3% HP. So, one might think "Oh, that was very perilous, let's not do it again," right? Nope! Mr. Hopscotch Tank does this for the rest of the dungeon: pulling as much as the map will allow him, jumping around like a hot potato, stepping OUT of my attempts at AoE heals, never letting my MP regain. Aggro is bouncing all over to every party member, so we all get a fun chance to practice tanking! Did the entire thing with consistent low if not barely there MP. This was by far my WORST experience ever, but somehow, we managed to complete the dungeon.

Those are my two best. I hope I do not, or will not, have more to share in the future. :)

I have enough horror stories for at least 10 pages.
Duty and Party Finder just hate me and always give me the worst and/or rudest truckers imaginable.

Then again, for some of those stories, the forums would rip me apart because how DARE I dislike big pulls in ShB.

Anyway, this one just happened a few hours ago and tbf it's people like that that make me want to just jump out a window.

Level 80 Crystal Tower dungeon. EX roulette. Me on SCH. A WAR, a RDM and a BLM.
First pull goes fine, even if it lives surprisingly long. And I don't mean "well not everyone is in complete tome gear yet" long, but like. EXTREMELY long. As if someone wasn't even in full ARF with 75~79 accs of smth.

And mind you, I DID help with DPS as good as I could.

Well, I think, I have time. I have nowhere to be at 10 at night. I don't mind this being a long run, although I am fearing for what will happen if the tank decides to pull big.
He does once the dungeon lets him, and again, it goes so. Slow. Way too slow, seeing as we have a RDM and a BLM, and while I have no idea how RDM is spell/damage wise (haven't tried it out yet), I know from experience that a well played BLM can melt even big pulls.

So I think, let's keep an eye on those cast bars.
Then I see it.

BLM single target. And not with things that make sense, like switching from fire to ice, oh no. I mean almost exclusively ST. The only AoE is Thunder 4 and SOMETIMES Foul.

But wait, there's more!

So we reach the first boss. BLM doesn't watch where he goes with AoEs. Frees a mob. I heal him, get the aggro, bring the mob to the tank who takes the aggro. We kill the add, all is well.

Same thing happens again, except this time, the mob kills me as I was trying to not only heal me but also the whole party, AND bring this bugger to the tank. So I'm dead, the BLM dies. RDM rezzes me, bless them.

I wasn't even fully rezzed yet when BLM decides it's time to blame me. I tell him that I wasn't the one who fred the mob, so he shouldn't blame me for his mistake.
And I was ready to leave it at that bc hey, we all mess up sometimes, we're not perfect. Stuff happens y'know, I wasn't mad, just a bit iffy that he decided to play the "Always blame the healer first" card.

He, however, seemed to somehow be personally offended by that.
He tells me I'm bad, that the RDM is a better heal than I am. So I decide, hey, if I'm sooo horrible, why don't I just leave him dead? He clearly didn't want anything to do with me, so I'd rather not throw my icky magic on him, to not give him bad player cooties you know? We wouldn't want HIM to catch that!

RDM sadly rezzes him. I don't heal him when he rezzes INTO AN AOE AND IMMEDIATELY CASTS, so he dies. Same thing happens like 2 times before I say I'll leave him dead no matter what, bc I am not wasting my MP on a person like him.

He replies with, and I quote: "just how your father wasted spunk on you"

I think wow okay dude, you need an anger management class, and probably a new diaper. I hope his kindergarten teacher had one left for him.

I told him he'll get a report for that, and explained that all I wanted to do was get the add to the tank (since Mr. BLM wasn't moving when it was eating him), and things simply went bad. I also told him that HE freed the add (again), but yeah I AM the bad one lmao

He told me, and I quote again: "your shit is what you are"

I said he's a child and that this conversation was over. After the boss we kicked him, and I hope he took those 30 Minutes to cool down, or at least cry out his horrible temper in a secluded room where no one had to deal with him.

Sadly we had to abandon the dungeon bc RDM couldn't figure out how to look for a replacement.
Oof.

Fun fact: We managed the boss without a problem after BLM was smooching the floor like it was his long lost wife, and no one ever even came close to death. But yeah, I'm a shit healer, a waste of spunk, I shouldn't exist LMAO
(that's the message i felt he was giving me but whatever)

Being new in a dungeon (and he was new) and making mistakes is one thing, but immediately blaming everyone else and getting insulting and rude?
Nah man, you can go eff off. I have healed in this game for years, I have enough BS going on in RL, I have literally zero time for your stuff OR any ducks to give. Go get your anger issues looked at, for the sake of everyone who has to deal with you yes.

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Originally Posted by PeppermintRain

Shadowbringers, Dohn Mheg as WHM:Tank rushes into the first mob, then pulls to the next, and the next. I am thinking "Wow, he must be confident. Okay." I am also hoping the DPS are good because my DPS as a WHM has been cut to basically useless.

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Isn't WHM capable of pushing more DPS than all the tanks now? From my experiences and other posts on these forums it seems to be a complete Holy monster now (and it gets even better with Misery).


That said, that first pull can be awful and I too failed it as WHM the first time I ran the dungeon on it (it was also the first time for me as a WHM in any ShB dungeon). After the initial Holy stuns, the tank should have used their invulnerability skill on it, followed by your Benediction, and after that things should have already been easier to handle. I think that pull also includes the monster which has to be silenced to prevent it from buffing the big hitters, so the tank and DDs have some additional responsibility there to make your job easier.

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Originally Posted by Taika

Isn't WHM capable of pushing more DPS than all the tanks now? From my experiences and other posts on these forums it seems to be a complete Holy monster now (and it gets even better with Misery).


That said, that first pull can be awful and I too failed it as WHM the first time I ran the dungeon on it (it was also the first time for me as a WHM in any ShB dungeon). After the initial Holy stuns, the tank should have used their invulnerability skill on it, followed by your Benediction, and after that things should have already been easier to handle. I think that pull also includes the monster which has to be silenced to prevent it from buffing the big hitters, so the tank and DDs have some additional responsibility there to make your job easier.

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I think I have an unpopular opinion here, but I personally don't really like Holy. It hurts my eyeballs and offends my ears, and it does the tiniest little sliver of damage. IMO, the best part about it is the stun; that's actually really useful. I wish I had Aero III back, and Holy was changed to just a stun. Because the thing is, we gotta spend like 2.5 seconds casting Holy, and while casting, we can't do anything else. So I gotta stop what I'm doing just to spam it. With Aero III, I had 1 cast, and then I could heal and/or DPS as needed WHILE enemies continued to take damage. Maybe I'm just bitter they took Aero III from me, ahaha.

Also, I agreed. Ideally, that big pull would've gone like that. The issue is the tank was running around like he had ants down his pants the entire time, dragging the mob all over the place, so even if I had time to cast Holy during my frantic effort to keep his papery butt alive, it probably wouldn't have even hit most of the mob by the time he dragged em off somewhere else. It was super weird and annoying. He was also unaware of having cooldowns and tank skills. He sorta just ran around in a frenzy auto-attacking. I did that pull several other times with success, when my tanks/dps used their heads a little. :)

Me using a healing Job. What's the horror story you ask? I just said it, me using a healing job.

Did Eden 2 earlier this afternoon to hopefully loot a chest token (I did).

There was a BLM that insisted on standing in his leylines, even when the Nyx were coming right at him, and when the beam was being fired down the middle of the arena. Finally started using Rescue to pull him, but he popped back over to the leylines anyways. I'm glad we still managed lol.

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Originally Posted by PeppermintRain

Lord of the Dance.

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Your stories are fun. c: You sound like an amazing healer.

Call me over emotional/sensitive, maybe I am, but I'm really tired of DDs that think they control the speed of the run

This literally just happened. Dohn Mheg (or however you write it, I forgot)
I was doing lvl roulette on AST. AST is 73 in almost complete iLvl 400 gear, so just enough to get into this dungeon. I was HOPING for a non-ShB dungeon do to experiences like these, but oh well, we were all 73, so I was hoping the Tank would know to not expect the highest Damage and Heals.

DNC IMMEDIATELY tells tank to pull huge. I want to say please no, it's my first time doing this on AST, we're all in lvl gear, big pulls in ShB can lead to big problems if not done correctly but the tank is already at it, and I can't type without wiping us.

Tank forgot Tank stance. DNC gets poisoned, but the tank is almost dying despite me pulling everything I have, so I can't Esuna him and he dies.

[20:47](E. S.Zodiark) heloooo
[20:48](E. S.Zodiark) please pull hard <3
[20:48](S. T.Odin) o7
[20:49](E. S.Zodiark) lapipi I was poisoned
[20:49](E. S.Zodiark) lol
[20:49](S. T.Odin) soz i forgot tank stance xD
[20:49](S. T.Odin) i fixed it though
[20:49](Lapipi Lapi) the tank was DYING he's more important than you
[20:50](Lapipi Lapi) also dont tell the tank to pull huge without even considering me
[20:50](S. T.Odin) you still want me to pull big?
[20:50](Lapipi Lapi) NO

I left. I hate this. So I know this makes me sound really dumb, but it legit made me cry? I don't even know why. I don't know why this got to me so much. Why do DDs think they control the pace? WHY do we need HUGE PULLS in level dungeons. Bigger is not always better! Pull SMARTER PLEASE.

Yes big pulls can work. But not like this. Consider your god damn healer. Your gear. Their gear. CDs. How hard mobs hit. How many mobs there are. How many AoEs, how many HARD HITTING MOBS. Square is fighting big pulls for a reason.

The buffing mobs weren't stunned either! Which makes it WORSE!

I want a barrier after every trashpack. I don't care anymore. Big pulls can work but with the lack of brain usage I see on a daily basis I'm just so so so so tired.

I'm tired of having an emotional breakdown everytime I heal, because people instantly blame me, insult me, bitch at me, and don't even ASK me if I am okay with a certain pull. Then call ME the problem when I can't handle something. Because I'm bad and I suck and should die, apperently. All things I've been told from huge pull enthusiasts. Call me a bad healer, idgaf. Call me an asshole for wanting this I don't. Care anymore.

Just stop. Please. I'm literally begging.
Stop.

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Originally Posted by Lapisluzili

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I want to give you a hug!

I understand completely. I hate healing right now because of this sort of thing. People are being dumb. Like, really, really dumb. It's not just you. We're all dealing with this.

Healing is extremely stressful thanks to some of the most incompetent balancing I've ever seen. (I say this as a SCH. WHM is WHM.)

None of it fixed the game. There's more spike damage, tanks have fewer ways of mitigating it, and more responsibility falls on the healer now.

We end up jumping through hoops to cover tanks for every error they make. And heaven forbid we make an error.

If you're playing SCH in a pug, then keep in mind that Recitation + Emergency Tactics + Adlo is a huge heal and can prevent a wipe. It's not always wise to blow Recitation on a free Excog.

I leveled up a DRK to lvl57 or something, because I'm edgy AND because I'm tanking since TBC on WoW. But because I found tanking pretty mindless this days, I wanted to make some healers for a change, my first job when I started FF14 being WHM, and now AST.

First story : The Clueless tank, in Brayflox's Longstop.

It was your typical "I don't know what the hell I'm doing" tank. I thought it was a first timer, so I asked "are you new at tanking by any chance ?"... and it began. 1min, 2min, 3min. I thought I broke him... but he finally said "No". He ran into the first pack of mob but without his enmity spell on. I told him "hey buddy, can you activate your enmity spell ? It's the pink/red/green one" (he was a WAR). Again, 1min, 2min, 3min... he ran to an other pack, still without his spell on... this time we wiped because of the huge "pull" (into my face).

First boss, he didn't make him face the other direction, away from the group. I told him "hey man, don't make the boss face the group, we will get AoE'd". He didn't do a thing. So the group moved behind the boss... BUT SURPRISE --> the tank went with us ! Again, we move behind it... THE TANK FOLLOWS.

Then, for the rest of the dungeon, he went alone "to clean every mob". He died many time. But he really wanted to make us clean every mob. I told him why, he said "more experience lol".

As for the last boss... oh boy : for some reason, he ran in circles around the dragon. Our dps were a MNK and a NIN btw.

Second story : The "I cannot do this, kick me out of the group" tank, Aurum Vale.

This one is simple. Our tank aggroed every fucking mob until the boss room. We wiped. I told him to maybe pull a bit less, and... well... activate his enmity spell :D. He did activate it, and he pulled them slowly... BUT... he stood in the yellow pools. He died. He said "wtf healer ?". I told him about the huge damages from the yellow pools. HE DID THE SAME. He died. In front of the first boss, he said "I don't want to tank it, this dungeon is too much lol ^^". I told him to just... stay out of the goddamn pools. He said "kick me, I don't want to do this". We did.

Reading some of the recent entries, there really is an issue with people blaming the healer for things. Recently had a group accuse me of being a shitty healer for DPSing too much. Now, our issue was primarily not meeting DPS checks, and the vast majority of deaths were either instant death mechanics like knockback or doing things like eating multiple vuln stacks. Sure, you may have been been at 80% health when the attack that killed you went off, but it's not my fault when the attack hit for over your max HP anyway.

People never notice when you do well, but God forbid you're not a perfect being capable of carrying the whole party on your back.

Adding in, I resonate with every DECENT, perfectly good healer being yelled at. I would give you all tea and encouragement and commendations if I could. Sometimes, the rest of the party is full of big meanie heads who weren't hugged enough as children, or they still are said children.

My own mini story:
I was once vote-kicked from The Vault for reasons unknown. Seriously, to this day, I am still clueless as to why and how I was kicked. It happened very fast. Tank wasn't doing his job right on a boss, was standing in AoEs, not using cooldowns, aggro was flying on everyone, he was being weird and a pain to heal, but I did my best. We end up wiping. A DPS types something like "It's not a hard fight" and I say, "I agree." I've done this dozens of times. Tank types in: "Then step up your game, healer. Come on." I reply with "What?" in honest confusion. Not a moment later, I am given the boot from the dungeon. Ah well, didn't like em anyway. :)

my fav story happen'd recently, i was leveling my WHM via stormblood dungeons, and got told off by a dps in my group for not doing dps and actually, you know, doing my job and healing, it was done using the translate function, so it sound like this person was talking to a dog, so i just threw it back at them, even saying "<DPS> <HEAL!>" just for giggles... i mean if you have to ask the healer to do dps, then something is very wrong, in my eyes that means the dps are not doing the job they are there to do...

Mine has always been the Tanks that insisted on puling multiple packs but refused to cycle their defensive CD in dungeons. These have been increasingly common in DF lately.

Solo healing Ridorana Lighthouse after my co-healer bailed on me. We didn't get another one the entire run. On top of that, the group had like 5 new people. Imagine how all that went. I was so mentally tired after that. Had some generous help from the other alliance healers though, so I appreciated that.

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

People never notice when you do well, but God forbid you're not a perfect being capable of carrying the whole party on your back.

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This has a bit to do with MMORPG culture in general; it's something that facinates me, so I've spent some time thinking about it.

As far as FFXIV goes, the Roles can easily be shown to fail visably: if the mobs are running from player to player, the Tank is failing; if fights take far too long, the Damage dealers are failing; and if everyone keeps dying, then the Healer is failing.

That's the theory anyway, in practice, if something else goes wrong, or folks aren't working as a team, then deaths can happen anyway, which makes it look like the Healer is failing to do what they should be doing. But since clearing a dungeon as fast a possible is status quo and expected, when a Healer is doing their job well, commendations may mindlessly be given, but there's not much thought given to the skill of the Healer. We'll always get the short end of the stick, despite how much I love being a Healer.

My healing horror stories have been told time and again, but I have one when I started Tanking.

I was tanking the Dzemael Darkhold, and forgot the early mechanics of standing in crystal light with pulls (while I knew the mechanics for the first boss, it had been forever since I had been to the dungeon, and forgot about the general buff).

We wiped once, I knew it was my mistake, and apologized for it. Our Healer, on the other hand, promptly lost it. From begging to be kicked, to slander, to postulating all of the other queues he could be in at the moment: he was a twobled wittle boy. I simply stated that I would pull a bit smaller, mind where I stood, and strive to do better.

That shut him up, but didn't stop him from pulling extra mobs onto himself that I had to pick up when he got bored.

Nary a wipe after the first, everything went pretty smoothly. I figured that I still had lots to learn, and still apologized for my poor performance as a Tank. I left with 2 commendations (from the other DD's), and a whisper from one of them saying, "That healer was an ass."

When I play a Tank, most of my healers are fantastic. Possibly because I don't buy into the pull-the-whole-dungeon mentality?

There's many stories to be told, some stories like when Tank does Big Pulls and you cast Asylum/Sacred Soil/Earthly Star and they move out the bubble and stand right on it's side without going in, you want to scream in madness but you can't because if you stop healing for a second the Tank also dies, because usually those Tank do not use Defensive CDs as well, so you must burn your MPs and Resouces just trying to keep them alive. So when the fight is over you can feel tears on your face and your hands shaking. Well, that's my favorite horror story from Healers.

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Originally Posted by Azeriel

Mine has always been the Tanks that insisted on puling multiple packs but refused to cycle their defensive CD in dungeons. These have been increasingly common in DF lately.

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A few hours ago I was with my AST alt and got into a Bardam's Mettle - the first pulls there are normally heavy, but this DRK proceeded to pull and sprint all the way till the first wall, died, we wiped, and he left....que? I'm still questioning whether that was a troll or one of those tanks who takes healers for granted.

Dear tanks, most of us don't mind big pulls, but you better only pull what you can handle. If your HP goes from 100% to 10% within a second...that's not the healer's fault.