Enough is enough

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Originally Posted by Escalon

Me : Its 8:50pm : Gonna check the queue for laughs : 8640 people
Me : Ah, F it, gonna hit the sack and sleep.
Me : Wakes up
Me : Its 4:00am : Gonna check the queue for laughs : 1
Me : AAAALLRIGHT THEN

Been playing like this in the mornings and just going to sleep more early.

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I've been doing the same since release and have had barely any queues. No point in wasting time when I can just sleep and play in the morning. Bonus: people who play like this are not taking up space in the evening queues.

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Originally Posted by Nothv13

They literally said this was gong to happen before the expansion. They've offered up free game time. Stop being mad because you ignored the warnings.

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Stop defending their lies and I'll stop getting mad.

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Originally Posted by OzumaKuma

They gave no indication it would be *this* bad. They lied to get more expansion sales, you can't see that?

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They started telling us in July it would be bad. Never in any of the previous expansions have they warned us that far in advance to expect problems. So yes, they did warn us it would be *this* bad.

They still need to sort the errors that are kicking people to the end of the queue, you shouldn't have to wait five hours only to wait five more hours, but they continue to be transparent about it. You can blame them for a lot but warning us isn't one of the things they didn't do.

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Originally Posted by Pixelburst

Because a lot of people took Paid-Timeoff only for it to be a waste honestly. Everyone has a right to be angry when they're sitting in queues for hours trying to play.

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If you took pto and can't play that's a you problem.

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Originally Posted by OzumaKuma

Stop defending their lies and I'll stop getting mad.

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Dude, eat a snickers.

A lot of people make it a bigger deal than it is.

Lets go with your version : Its a lie.
And so what ? The WORST, WORST its gonna cost you is 30USD if you do NOT play for 2 months but stay subbed. Is there like a race to finish Endwalker first ? Are they giving away some prizes ?

I play by bits in the mornings, just got to the moon and what ? If I cant queue I just do something else or dont play at all. And before you say I'm blindly defending them, no I am in fact not. I critique FF14, The Community and the Devs a lot, like a LOT, but as I said before, the worst it costs you is 30 USD in 2 months if you stay subbed while not playing. I'm anything but wealthy, and even I can somehow manage that and if I could not, I just unsub, its that simple.
And "Demanding" things because I gave a company 15 or 30 USD is a joke, I own Endwalker and I will own it even after the 2 months.

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Originally Posted by Mordranar

So common sense. Well, I tell you something about common sense. We subscribed to a service where we pay money for. SE is not able at this point in time to provide that service for me (and others) to an extent that I am comfortable with. When I come home at 7 pm I stare at a queue of around 8k players waiting, even if I do not get disconnected I face around 4 hours plus to wait. By that time i have to go sleep because my night ends at 5:30 am.

So common sense for me is, if SE is not able to provide a service worth the money, they don´t get any money from me unless they are. I do not care 1 cent why they are not able to. I am aware of the semiconductor shortage, I work in IT for over 25 years as a system engineer. Where I work we suffer from that too, but you know what, our customers don´t freaking care too, they care about us providing the service they paid for. That´s how business works, it does not work with excuses.

Honestly what is that with gamers excusing every- and anything so easily, you are customers and you and your money is more worth than Square Enix is providing at the moment.

My subscription ends by the end of december, if this shit show is going on by then, i won´t resubscribe. That´s my common sense.

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I think this post right here literally sums it up and says it all. 800% agree

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Originally Posted by EtherRose

Which is why they gave the 7 days to compensate so you don't lose money. Of course they will give more depending on how long and how severe it gets/continues. If they fix the queue issue before this Friday than you are getting FREE days. I also don't get home till about 7:15pm. The longest queue I've been in is around 4700 which took about 1H 20m. So I think you are overly exaggerating on the whole 4+ hours waiting around 8k.

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No. He is not exaggerating at all. I get home around 5:25 to 5:35 P.M everyday Monday through Friday from work. My Que last night was 4465 when I logged on. It took 1 hour 22 mins to get to 2210. I got booted from que, logged back in fast as hell and was back at the que saying 4483. So yeah. Things are nice and dandy in your world and God must be blessing you. But keep in mind not everyone playing this game has your EXCELLENT and rather Wondrous luck as far as getting into this game.

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Originally Posted by Darksummoner

No. He is not exaggerating at all. I get home around 5:25 to 5:35 P.M everyday Monday through Friday from work. My Que last night was 4465 when I logged on. It took 1 hour 22 mins to get to 2210. I got booted from que, logged back in fast as hell and was back at the que saying 4483. So yeah. Things are nice and dandy in your world and God must be blessing you. But keep in mind not everyone playing this game has your EXCELLENT and rather Wondrous luck as far as getting into this game.

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The question is though, how long until you noticed until you were booted from queue? Because if you logged back in as soon as you got the error you would have been in the same place in queue. This has been confirmed by me and many others from my discord. I don't know if it's the same all around but if every time I dc/d and I immediately logged back in and had the same queue position as I had before and others said the same thing than I'm going to stick with that. So apparently you waited to long to log back in or just didn't notice in time that you got kicked and took to long to get back in to keep your spot.

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

You'd think you would understand quite well then, how difficult it is to procure servers and how unreasonable it is when someone is asking you to do something that is impossible. SE has made statements quite a few times now detailing their continued efforts to procure servers, but being unable to do so thanks to global situation created by COVID. Yet everyone wants to continuously yell at them for not being able to make servers pop out of thin air or not predicting a tripling of population that no one could have predicted. There is no effort to understand SE's efforts on this, just a focus on the self and an anger over not having the launch be buttery smooth when no popular MMO launch ever is.

Moreover, they will be conducting maintenance to remedy the other errors associated with their login queue. I'm not sure what people think stamping their feet in a tantrum is going to accomplish when SE is already fully aware of the issue and devoting their resources to resolving it. What do you want from them? To wave a magic wand and make servers appear?

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...24153ef4405c13

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Sir/ma'am what planet do you live on?? On Planet Earth no one hands out money for free. Hell!!! you can barely get a millionaire to give you 5 dollars. They would look at you like you just took the last of their paycheck. The apologies are nice and great and all, but I have to agree with Mordranar all the way. And i can understand him NOT wanting to pay for something but he can't play it like he wants and when he wants.

I for one LOVE FFXIV and I LOVE Yoshi-P and his crew but only adults who manage their money will see that giving out money, right now, for free is not something most of us can do if we can avoid it. Let us not forget, but we are smack dap in the middle of a pandemic. For most of us playing FFXIV after a hard day of work is what relaxes us, along side a glass of liquor. I hate to say it, but I kinda feel like I am handing SE my money as well. I had to literally get up this morning at 3 A.M, which is my gym time, just to log on and play. Doing that I had to say No to the gym this morning. That is NOT going to be a option. Not turning into a fat bastard over Square-Enix and their choices of doing things.

Wait for hours to get in? Ok ill bust out the switch or something while I wait. Getting 4 2002s and needing to retype password and reopen every time is ridiculous. Even if I do get in the game stalls out and I get dced anyway. I've had to start the same solo duty 4 times now and at some point a 5th due to getting dced in the middle of it. Even if I reconnect right away I get stuck in another queue. The world visit doesn't seem to help either. Never got a chance to look at the server status or pick which world to visit and while the queue is shorter(700ish vs 3.5k) the 2002s and dcs/lag make the game still unplayable. If I could get a refund on the expac and maybe buy it after this is all settled I would, but I doubt they would even let me since I got to lvl 88. Lock the character for all I care till I buy it again. Not like I can really use it now.