Post Your Healing Horror Stories.

Be honest - when a popup appears with a YES/NO, 90% of people will click YES without any consideration or care for the 'why'.

As for me, really like the normal Alexander fight so I sign up every so often (once a week at least for the gear), got two squishy tanks (one off-tanking due to inexperience) and a co-healer with bare minimum IL to sign up in my group. Some DPS didn't even enter portals, so safe to assume a chunk of them weren't experienced either. Basically boiled down to the co-healer dying repeatedly, burning my MP regularly to raise them, a tank getting chunked to 20% per bust, me having to enter a portal, the off-tank dying to mechanics, me actually getting to LB for once to raise everyone (was just me and tank at one point) only for the main tank to die, me having perma-LB aggro until killed while the alive OT can't find his aggro buttons, and the whole thing being an amusingly messy wipe at 5% HP.

Not really my story, but as a WHM, I got into a party in progress and was immediately asked if I had any healing skills. Apparently the last healer had no healing skills on their skill bar. They tried to be a DPS.

This would have been a horror story if it wasn't intentional - pf group to help a new tank get through Anti-tower. I'm not actually sure they met the minimum ilvl of 170 .. the rest of us were all 260+ .. the pld had several thousand fewer hit points than the rest of us and was taking harder hits! Aggro was .. interesting. But everything was dying so fast it barely mattered, lol.

Not a Healing Story as I signed up as PLD, but it would have been if I went with my WHM (main). Entered group in progress and was told to use Sword Oath because "Bard tank is a thing". Had no interesting tanking OR healing that drivel.

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Originally Posted by RopeDrink

Not a Healing Story as I signed up as PLD, but it would have been if I went with my WHM (main). Entered group in progress and was told to use Sword Oath because "Bard tank is a thing". Had no interesting tanking OR healing that drivel.

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Bard tank is a thing in what?

I don't believe it matters given any tank going DPS in place of a so called Bard-Tank has no noticable benefits and would restrict Healers regardless. Bit of fun in low-end content where it matters less, sure, but as a Tank who prefers to Tank and a Healer who actually enjoys contributing DPS, let's just say I'll rarely be in the mood for that shenanigans regardless of where it takes place. Truthfully, I don't remember. I could tell straight away that the people in question would have either kicked me or given an earful if I threw on Shield Oath and wrecked their fun.

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Not a Healing Story as I signed up as PLD, but it would have been if I went with my WHM (main). Entered group in progress and was told to use Sword Oath because "Bard tank is a thing". Had no interesting tanking OR healing that drivel.

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What did you load into?

Tried out pvp on my astrologian, cleric stanced grayed out, move cursor read cleric stance is unavailable in pvp. Never entered in pvp again with my healer.

Did Brayflox a week back I was on my Sch, my wife on her BLM. Tank was NEW as new can be and failing/afking constantly. Tank aside my issues relates to the MONK that was with us, after the 3rd wipe on the final boss. The Monk asks for Leeches or Esuna in chat(see where this is going). I respond "I am a sch I dont have esuna" (I was unaware at this time that leeches was a level 40 spell so that answers that.) Monk replies back "Get it" Me: *Facepalm*

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

I was unaware at this time that leeches was a level 40 spell so that answers that.

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That, unfortunately, is the main pain for scholars in Brayflox. It seems a big oversight given how much those poison stacks can add up. You can still use antidote potions though... if you know about the need ahead of time.

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Originally Posted by Sagittarian

That, unfortunately, is the main pain for scholars in Brayflox. It seems a big oversight given how much those poison stacks can add up. You can still use antidote potions though... if you know about the need ahead of time.

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I am going to make SCH my first healer I level when I get done with my WAR, and I have a question on this point (and I know nada about playing a SCH) - what about the Selene pet and Fey Caress? SCH happens at 30, and Selene replaces Summon II, and Fey caress is a level 20 spell. Am I misunderstanding how that all works?

Just curious, because Brayflox specifically would seem to put SCH's in a bind.

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Originally Posted by Venjenz

I am going to make SCH my first healer I level when I get done with my WAR, and I have a question on this point (and I know nada about playing a SCH) - what about the Selene pet and Fey Caress? SCH happens at 30, and Selene replaces Summon II, and Fey caress is a level 20 spell. Am I misunderstanding how that all works?

Just curious, because Brayflox specifically would seem to put SCH's in a bind.

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Fey Caress will work .. on a 60 second cooldown. Fey Caress was modified for 3.0 though - it used to be a skill speed buff.

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Fey Caress will work .. on a 60 second cooldown. Fey Caress was modified for 3.0 though - it used to be a skill speed buff.

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Thanks for clearing that up. So Brayflox specifically seems to be a pain point for SCH healers specifically. That kinda sucks, but better to know now before I get down on myself for not knowing how to play.

This is probably a horror story for the other healer I just got in a WCM I ran with a friend, but you're gonna have a big laugh if you read this story, I promise.

So, I went in on DiAST, and had a prepared expanded Balance and all. The other healer was a NoctAST, and I noticed she also had a expanded Balance prepared. I'm sure you see where this is going. In these cases, I usually let them use theirs first because it's just easier to hold on to it and time it myself rather than relying on DF people's capacity to coordinate, but as we got closer to the first boss, I pulled another Balance.

So I promptly told her in Party chat: "Let me expand my Balance first, cause I just pulled another one, please." She was silent, and then they pulled. So as they go, I use the Balance I had just drawn, extend it with CO, and then... this lady uses hers to overwrite mine, which had already been extended. Wasted CDs and RR. I was pissed off at first, ngl, though I wouldn't have been if I hadn't specifically asked her not to. Anyways, that was a declaration of war for me. For the rest of that boss I just kept my friend buffed with single target Arrows and Balances to avoid overwriting, but for Forgall....

I noticed she already had an Expanded Balance as we were going to the boss, so I waited for her to use her Balance, extend it with CO, and then I just used an Expanded Spear in order to be the most annoying little shit. FIRE WITH FIRE, LADY. Or ice, or whatever the hell Spear stands for, no one cares. Anyways, I kept being annoying with the cards, and then she died to Megadeath, I think? Along with other three party members, so I ended up raising the others and barely solo-healing through Hell Wind because I was out of MP from Raising half the party throughout the whole thing. Still left her biting the dust, though.

As we reached Ozma, I told my friend through a LS chat that I was gonna overwrite her Balance with a Spear again, but he was like "Hazel pls," obviously NOT THRILLED about getting a fucking Spear. So I heard him out, even though I had a Spear in my Spread.

THANKFULLY, HOWEVER, I managed to Draw a Balance right before the pull, so I waited for her to use her expanded Balance again, then saw her pop CO, overwrote her Balance with MINE, and then threw the Spear I had spread on her and her alone. It took her a couple seconds, but I saw her click the Spear off, probably pissed off as hell. I was cackling, of course. A little bit after, she threw a Spear on me after she expanded a Balance, so I took the chance and used Luminiferous Aether, gave an Arrow to my friend (BLM) once her Balance was over, and Time Dilated it to make some use of the Spear. Then I /doted her, but Ozma swallowed us and I don't think she saw.

Eventually we were on the border of wiping to Ozma, as you usually are because lol DF, and only my friend, the tank and me were standing with very little HP, so I figured I'd put my differences aside for a moment for an emergency truce. I'm not sure how she took that, but I had my revenge and I was at peace.

In Caliofisteri, she and like other 4 dudes in the party managed to get hit by haircut all at the same time. I tried saving everyone with a Lightsped Helios, but I could only reach a couple DPS because everyone loves to be super far away in 24-mans, and half the party ended up dying, including her. I noticed the boss was at like 7%, so instead of rezing I just switched to CS and kept DPSing until the raid was over.

At the Exit of the instance, I /doted her once again, and then I got a single commendation. I don't know if it was hers, but I gave her mine for giving me one of the must fun WCM runs of my life, even if it was at her possible expense. NGL, I feel kinda guilty, BUT that's what you get when you ignore your co-healer when they're trying to communicate!

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Originally Posted by Venjenz

Thanks for clearing that up. So Brayflox specifically seems to be a pain point for SCH healers specifically. That kinda sucks, but better to know now before I get down on myself for not knowing how to play.

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I've ran Brayflox many, many times on my SCH, and the poison isn't as bad as it is made out to be. Or I should say, it isn't so bad that it overwhelms Eos. I've actually had more trouble healing that dungeon on my WHM. You can use Selene for the AoE cleanse, but the poison is often inflicted while it is on cooldown, and Eos' whispering dawn adds additional healing, and will completely negate non-stacked poison. If poison stacks gets too high during the last boss, it can get a little more healing intensive, but if you place Eos and use whispering dawn, it is more than manageable. If using Selene, have her cast Fey Caress when poison stacks gets to three.

The poor, poor SMN in my group last night :(

An FC mate and I was running leveling roulette trying to get our jobs to 60 and we got Sohm Al. The SMN was a sprout, and her first time in the instance. She was undergeared, and couldn't take a hit. Add to that she struggled avoiding AoE. The tank also wasn't the best at mitigating his own damage, so I couldn't keep the SMN on her feet, and my MP pool was seriously being taxed throughout the dungeon. She was really trying, you can tell as she was just running out of the AoEs just a little too late.

I'm not the best healer by any means, but I can tell how a AoE heavy boss fight is going to go based on how the group performs during the dungeon, and I knew the SMN was going to have a hard time with Sohm Al's final boss. Sure enough it was the case, and I had to leave her down. It is so rare that this happens to me, and it makes me feel horrible when I have to make the decision to no longer raise a player.

She apologized, and said she felt bad as she felt like she got carried to the clear. I apologized as well for having to leave her down, and she understood. We gave her our comms anyway. My FC mate is a SMN main and told her she's totally been there. I just wish I could have done more to help. I should have done more.

Nothing new for me - been working on ACN to get EfE on my WHM, level 27 and rising... But getting there involved the same-old-same-old - healers healing in cleric, panicking, removing it and becoming perma-overhealers, or casting DPS spells out of cleric (if any at all), and those who don't even have cleric who enjoy just healing max-healthbars and nothing else. Only one of the three was responsive when I tried to offer a few (polite) tips, one was DE (either didn't speak English, or didn't want to), and the last ignored everything. That's all well and good, except we had a (first) a Marauder with no Flash and seemingly no idea what Overpower was, followed by (second) squishy first-time tank with a 'let me pull everything for you' caster DPS, sometimes intentionally, other times because they wanted to explore every nook and cranny that was in the complete opposite direction to the team in places like Thousand-Maws, pulling 20billion lightning mobs back for good measure - lucky I was ACN'ing so I could off-heal and prevent a wipe after one particular incident thanks to that pleb, while said healer was fumbling around with cleric stance (healing in it, mostly).

Funny to think that I would never have noticed (or had reason to complain) if I wasn't a healer main. Back in the day, I just assumed certain groups were slow due to gear - now that I tank & heal primarily, all I see in the lower bracket is sloppiness. Totally fine with that for learners, but a lot of above cases that happened are all people who've unlocked their jobs.

Anyway, as said, nothing we all haven't experienced before. Been sticking to lowbie content lately seeing as I capped everything very shortly after reset this week. Entirely expected, but no less tiresome when you really don't want to have to revisit the <50 dungeons and spend 40+mins per visit.

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The poor, poor SMN in my group last night :(

An FC mate and I was running leveling roulette trying to get our jobs to 60 and we got Sohm Al. The SMN was a sprout, and her first time in the instance. She was undergeared, and couldn't take a hit. *snippers* I apologized as well for having to leave her down, and she understood. We gave her our comms anyway. My FC mate is a SMN main and told her she's totally been there. I just wish I could have done more to help. I should have done more.

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You did fine, Gemina. Triage is part of the healer's job and sometimes you just shouldn't save or raise them.

The best you can do is encourage the sprout is to keep trying. Too many players treat dying as failure. It's not, really. Dying is part of the learning process. It's telling the player they need to improve in order to overcome a specific challenge. That summoner will get the timing down eventually.

/comfort hug

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Originally Posted by Venjenz

Thanks for clearing that up. So Brayflox specifically seems to be a pain point for SCH healers specifically. That kinda sucks, but better to know now before I get down on myself for not knowing how to play.

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The first time I did Brayflox on SCH was also the first time I ever healed on SCH. At the time I just outhealed poison with Adloquium blocking any new damage; when positioned next to the tank, Eos healed the tank well enough for me to care about every other member one by one.

Nowadays I intentionally do a Swiftcast > Selene swap at about 50% HP to ensure Caress is off cooldown when the poison gets bad. SCH have bottomless MP pools anyway.

Yeah, it's a bit of fallacy to say Scholar suffers before they get Leeches, because of Fey Caress and Adlo would shield through poisons. Some players don't grasp that concept or understand fairy skills early-on. Adlo is your first skill as Scholar and yet you see the poor player still using Physick non-stop on poisons.

I would say "bottomless MP" is a bit of a caveat, and good Scholars will ensure that MP isn't an issue normally.

You can actually run dry before your Aetherflow comes up if you DPS a lot and don't have the PIE to support such in fights with little to no downtime, or if you are careless with Aetherflow stacks. Maybe someone burns Lustrates too much, when forced Embraces or GCD heal could have done the job probably better, now they are at-risk for not having MP needed for an upcoming mechanic.

Been working on making my non-60's an even level, so ended up in Cutter's Cry on some class I forget. We had a hasty tank and a THM who liked rushing ahead, pulling, going the wrong way, all that fun stuff, so I (DPS) was in a sour mood by the time we got to the Tunnel Worm. Fight starts and our poor healer (who I assume didn't have cleric stance, thus was a no-DPS healer by default) was struggling with some of the AoE. While playing catchup, I was sludged by the boss (very long, hurtful, persistant DoT) which reduced the poor thing to spamming Cure inbetween healing the AoE damage (she didn't use Esuna a single time, and I didn't realize until about 50% through the boss HP bar). Rather than comment, I let her heal me through it in the hope that we'd smash the boss and move on. Nope, wipe due to dots ping-ponging all the HP bars and the DPS/Tank eating lots of damage during worm tunnels.

So, we run back, I write that they really need to dispel/Esuna, or people will die. She apologized and we start boss for the third time. Still no Esunas. Once again she heals me through a DoT (it lasts a good 10 seconds'ish). By the time mine faded I was mid-sentence, and the boss throws a DoT on the Healer. "You need to dispel!" I cry (in text). 2 seconds later I hear the Esuna sound on me (I had no DoT). She keeled over and died to hers.

It was a long Cutter's Cry.

So ran Baselars wall yesterday with one of those tanks that does not realize their the ones screwing up. Run starts off with the tank pulling with no Defensive stance up mobs all over and we wipe. Second disaster comes at the second boss, both Dps don't understand don't move or cast during the debuff. Eventually we all wipe cause the tank either died to the debuff or dropped Def stance and got wrecked don't remember which. Ilbred is where everything falls apart, Tank runs in grabs Ilbred no more then 5 seconds later drops Def stance losing aggro a short time later to me.Ilbred hits me for 31k one shotting me and causing a wipe, you think the tank would realize his oops and hold Def stance longer...Nope!! Second try he does it again this time Ilbred runs around smacking everyone tank trying to regain aggro while in OFFESENIVE STANCE!!!. Dps dies to a combo of AOE and Ilbred, tank gains control but I say fuck it and sit down. Did not get a third attempt as they kicked me and thank god they did I was ready to leave. I know I should not have sat down but something told me the tank was not going to stop his non sense.

Next group had a perfectly good tank :D

I've always been a huge fan of these forums and I still am, especially with some of the crud we have to face as healers... Well this one really topped the icing on the cake for me and this was in Baelsar's Wall with a tank (can't remember their job sorry), dragoon, black mage, and a scholar (me): [My apologies in advance for this loooong rant but it really infuriated me]

A random pug and I enter the usual duty finder and go about our ways, the beginning is a little rough as we slowly trudge through the two big mobs that were pulled together and the Sagittarius-Archers were getting killed last; therefore, multiple Archer dots galore on every player and mad heals/Leeches/Energy Drains ensue(Thank you Fey Caress!!!)! The rest of the adds after this point went smoothly... then comes the first boss.

Oh boy, our damage was quite low here and I'll admit using Selene might have not been the best choice, but it was mostly because the two Sky Armor adds were BARELY touched and continued doing damage constantly throughout the whole fight to BOTH the Dps that were chained to them. Speaking of which, I don't know if it was just me, but I noticed that the longer and longer it took to kill those chaining adds, the more damage it seemed to blast at the Dps after every other tick.. it was horrible. Naturally, after spending all of my utility possible/Rouses while the Dps kept taking mass amounts of damage from being tethered and Magitek Missle adding on top of them, and the tank receiving Magitek Claw tank busters + low DPS, the fight didn't last as both the BLM&DRG were brutally murdered, the tank and I were chained following their deaths and blasted at, and we wipe. Now come the hurtful insults. The BLM tells me that I'm a "Fucking idiot" and should have been using Eos and explains to me that Eos is strictly for healing, well duh. I apologize and say that I overestimated my ability, the situation, and should have alerted the group to take care of the adds from the beginning. The Tank and DRG remain silent, but the BLM tells me that they've done the fight millions of times and "know what they are doing". 2nd time with Eos summoned and the first set of chaining Sky Armor adds were killed, but the second and third took me and the DRG together to knock down the BLM's as they weren't touching them, but we made it.

I bring Selene back into the field after the boss is dead and the DRG berates me, asking if I even know what I'm doing as I seem completely clueless. I explain to them that the conveyor belt set of mobs pose no harm to us whatsoever, as there is no constant party damage going about, and I can safely Dps myself. They still seemed hesitant to pull the lever, so I tell them they can trust me on this; the BLM says "Well we trusted you back there, and look what happened. You got us all killed." Ouch.. We get through all the adds with Selene just fine. I was able to dps the entire time, only stopping to stoneskin+adlo the tank in between each wave. Things were starting to look up :D

As we walk to the 2nd boss I see my party chat blow up with "EOS! EOS!!!" "Please use her Dear God!!!" and so forth, so I decide to comply despite this fight only being high damage if someone fails to freeze all actions momentarily when Dynamic Sensory Jammer' is being casted (not to mention 'Launcher' is a weak group-wide AoE and can easily be shielded). The fight itself was a bit long again, and the DRG kept moving during Sensory Jammer almost every time getting themselves hurt, but again we get through it and I was able to Dps most of the time between phases and shielding.

I switch back to Selene once more for the final set of mobs before the last boss and both Dps tell me they are very frustrated with me because I refuse to stick with only Eos. I remind them once more that there's nothing to worry about, and we can Caster LB to knock down all the mobs while we AoE the remaining few. They bring up the first boss incident again and tell me I need "to learn how to properly play Scholar". I ignore them as we quickly breezed our way into the final boss. I Can't begin to list all the things I was being called during this pull.

Running up the stairs, the tank immediately pulls the boss before one of the Dps can finish their cutscene (barely made it). Chants of Eos's name rings through the Party chat from the DRG for the third time (not without insults from both Dps course!). This time I decided that I had it with the name-calling, so I tell them straight up that I will stick to Selene because the only time I actually have to shield and heal is during Lionshead, Claw of the Griffin tank buster, or if one of us fumbled and doesn't dodge Sanguine Blade, the fairy can handle rest as we Dps and I love Fey Caress speed buff paired with DRG's Battle Litany. Throughout the entire fight both the DRG and the BLM type-war at me, calling out all sorts of insults as they get stunned by Flashpowder gaze constantly, get hit with EVERY SINGLE Sanguine Blade, AND miserably fail Dps check to kill the middle biggest Blade of the Griffin on time (despite trying to DoT and Broil some), wiping the party.

The insults increase ten-fold at me, ranging from saying I was "the worst fucking scholar they had ever seen" to "Your job is to HEAL not dps stupid ass!!", and that we wiped only because I "didn't bother to be smart enough to bring out Eos". At this point I feel terrible but angry all at once and I lash out, deciding that I will ONLY heal (with Eos) and not dps at all. They say their thanks, calling me a dumbass once more and saying I should stick to just healing and that "maybe this time we'll actually clear."

Lord. Have. MERCY. Standing there only to heal was excruciatingly boring as a Scholar, especially when Eos covers about ALL of it during that fight. Not to mention that if I attempted to Dps they'd "wipe and kick me". Ugh. We get on with the fight and not surprisingly, we wipe again and again and AGAIN. Why? Because I was left there at Restraint Collar. Every. Damn. Time. Only the DRG attempted to get me out of the healer death mechanic (surprisingly), but the BLM continued targeting the boss as Restraint Collar would finish its cast, and kill me... And after the first time I pointed out the BLM's bs and told them if they wanted to finish the fight, they NEED to free me (because by the time I died, the boss would still have over half health left); but alas, I was met with more insults saying I was terrible at my job and someone like me shouldn't be telling them how to do mechanics that they were "very well aware" of. After the third time I apologized to the tank, and left the group.

I feel like all along they were making fun of me and purposefully doing bad JUST because I didn't have Eos out the whole time. If anything, I'm 100% sure that was the case, but it baffles me that there are people out there who actually do this.. I had always been pretty confident in my abilities, and as weird as it sounds this run really did open my eyes to switching fairies in and out more for Heavensward content. I was so used to using Selene for Baelsar's Wall, Sohm Al Hard and other lvl 60s dungeons with groups (not to be cocky) that would hardly ever experience a wipe. Sometimes in newly released dungeons, I'd be hesitant going in blind and use Eos at first, but switch to Selene later. Realm Reborn was pretty different as I would switch less and even use Eos more, but that was before I decided to main Scholar because the rush of stance dancing and healing really made my day. I hope that in my refusal to use Eos the whole time didn't make me seem like an asshole to anybody, and I really did feel bad about wiping at the first boss as it was my mistake, but like I see here time and time again in these forums: I feel like people really can't shoulder the blame entirely on their healers if they fail to do proper mechanics themselves; Period. This would have been different if someone was still learning the ropes of Baelsar's wall and were new, but all four of us had already done it a ton of times :/ Either way, I feel pretty blah.

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You were met with two of the most... well, I can't say the word I want to here because forum rules, but idiotic, condescending, clueless DPS I've ever heard about, and you're blaming yourself? The BLM alone sounds like a psychopath.

You should have kept Selene and CS on the entire time and told them to kick you if it was a problem. I certainly wouldn't take job advice from two inept plebs who can't or won't even follow simple dungeon mechanics and blame the healer's fairy when everything goes wrong. The expert dungeons are so simple a sprout could sleep through them. You were trying to use your job to the best of its ability, and they were doing the bare minimum on theirs. Don't blame yourself for an entirely preventable incident they caused.

Do what I do, record every fight. It's easy to play 'couch expert' when ranting at others, not so much when someone can provide visual evidence to the contrary and show them up for being a sack of muppets. I've had my own fair share of rants here in the forums, but in all cases I have videos of everything I've whined or ranted about. Not only can you discredit most of peoples bull 90% of the time, but it's also a good way of checking if there's any actual truth embedded in the flames. Failing that, just some self improvement even if you played fine. It's not easy to monitor yourself in the thick of battle (at least not compared to sitting back and watching yourself do that fight without having to press any buttons).

A lot of tanks make the one big mistake on the first pull of Baelsar's Wall, when they try to go all the way to the door.

Most of the time they forget to run back and get the ranged together, so they lag behind quite a bit and if the tank just stays there at the door area they will just pluck off other party members. DPS get blamed for being "low", mainly because their AoEs won't be hitting them. Believe me, I'm pulling the most damage possible as Bard (Full BiS with Alex Bow), I've popped all my CDs for this pull. So why should we have to peel off the mob to get these strangers that the tank should be getting together. So, It's wise to run back through the pack and reel them in. I think it's a bit undue to blame DPS sometimes because of a tank's negligence to realize that this pull isn't your typical snoozer.

Eos comment made sense, because if the tank doesn't pick the ranged up on time, everyone gets hit with ranged DoTs, and Whispering Dawn is the easiest answer for the pull, allowing the Scholar to at-least DoT/Bane the junk.

+1 on the eos comment, I run with Eos full time in dungeons, WD nets me quite a bit of extra cleric stance uptime which in turn easily outweighs Selene's soso buff.

Benediction to knocked down member.

Low-level leveling roulette, sastasha. tank was a leaf gld that sprinted everywhere and only did flash. Lost hate every pull. Last room was a triple-heal party (both dps were casters) tank wouldn't listen to us trying to explain.

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*Hugs* Lilian, sounds like you had some really ignorant DPS there. I'm sorry you had such a bad group to be honest I'm kinda suprised you stuck with them as long as you did, they sounds like such an unpleasant bunch...

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Either way, I feel pretty blah.

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I know it's easier to say, but try not to let this get to you. Both DPS were complete imbeciles and looking to blame someone else than accept any criticism. While I don't play Scholar, on the rare occasions I actually get Baelsar's Wall, I barely need to touch healing if the DPS are good. Honestly, I would have let them die and told them to stop taking unnecessary damage because I wasn't their babysitter. I bet you were probably pulling more DPS than either of them. Actually, did the Dragoon even aoe? If not, he has no business saying a damn word. We've all had those moments where people yell at us healers because they want to stand in everything/ignore mechanics while we pick up their slack. Neither of them are worth your time thinking about, hun. :)

It's not a horror story, but...

I'm new to AST, and love it to the point where I will put my WHM in the back seat.

As a healer, I generally prefer to main heal. As AST, I also like to main heal, even if there's a WHM in the group, AND I like doing it in Noct (although my personal preference is Duirnal). My story is:

I join groups with a WHM, and I'm asked from the group to go Noct (yaay). However, the WHM either dies a lot, or stays in Clerics. After we wipe for whatever reason, I let them know I will go Duir, and they said no. I did it anyway and glad I did, because the WHM died again. We won, but they told me that I don't listen, and found myself getting kicked.

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Thanks for clearing that up. So Brayflox specifically seems to be a pain point for SCH healers specifically. That kinda sucks, but better to know now before I get down on myself for not knowing how to play.

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Hmm! My SCH is now Lv54, and Leveling Roulette always seem to put me in Brayflox. I don't recall ever having an issue with progressing there. I don't know how to play SCH outside of letting Eos do her own thing (after I make her camp near the tank) while I throw some dots and the occasional heal.

My last party dps (both of them) decide to just stand still even though there are bad red circle below them, their reasoning? "Its fine we overlevel right?"

Looks like someone forgot the sync system =/

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

I know it's easier to say, but try not to let this get to you. Both DPS were complete imbeciles and looking to blame someone else than accept any criticism. While I don't play Scholar, on the rare occasions I actually get Baelsar's Wall, I barely need to touch healing if the DPS are good. Honestly, I would have let them die and told them to stop taking unnecessary damage because I wasn't their babysitter.

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No.

You must have missed my earlier post, it's not the DPS fault if they get hit at-times in the first pull to the wall in Baelsar's. The tank should run back through the pack and pick those up because they lag behind if they go all the way to the door. It's not your typical pull. There are ranged mobs that lag behind and randomly pick off party members, and that has nothing to do with DPS being "bad". We can pull 3k+ DPS AoEs and those ranged are still out of the pack, which makes no sense for DPS to let up on just to hit those strangers, they should be in AoE range if the tank does their job with crowd control.

It's best to use Eos for this pull anyway because Whispering Dawn can just cover the ranged DoTs and add another regen on the tank.

So, I'm doing Levelling roulettes as tank to generate some Storm Seals after transferring GC's. End up in Dzemeal Darkhold, some glamoured DPS so I assume they'll do a decent job and double pulled. The heals turned out to be what I'd expect from someone in Cleric stance, but they weren't in stance, so I die due to my own pull. Fair enough, my bad (I guess), sucked it up and went back in. Had a second unimpressive pull that didn't go overly well (unintentional - there's a lot of mobs on the side of the cliff and others that aggro from miles away for no real reason), died again. Decided to inspect the Healer's gear and it turns out they're wearing quite a lot of level 25 stuff and non-HQ'd low level whites (It's a level 44 dungeon), so that explained the 'cleric-like' heals. I pass a comment that I realize I need to tone down the pulls regardless and proceed to do just that. Rather than everyone putting the head down and enjoying a slower but smoother run, the guy decides to ramp the 'It's ok PRO TANK go pull everything' sarcasm meter to over 1,000 trying to make me feel bad.

Casually mentioned there's no need to be smarmy, but the twerp persists in passing snarky comments every pull. Grabbed a tri-pack and 2-mob patrol (5 enemies -- even with those heals, I could handle it fine with CD rotation) and they comment again. At this point in my head I'm thinking - you weren't being insulted, it's 4am on a Saturday night, and you're just going to keep ragging on me - find yourself a new tank. Left the dungeon.

I feel bad for the two DPS - they didn't pass much comment and didn't flame, but I'll be damned if I'm going to spend my morning being flamed in low-level content for one intended and one unintended pull followed by me looking for the problem in an attempt to adapt to it. Wonder if they'll even get it completed without a tank given Cure II's were providing about 1/8th of my HP bar a go...

Not a horror story but a happy one! I was playing my monk in PotD, along with another monk, a gladiator, and an astrologian. It's a floor 51-60 run so it's a bit tough for me.

Chronic health issues affect how well I play. It's easy for me to feel overwhelmed when there are too many abilities to keep track of and with PotD filling up my hotbars I was overlooking abilities I should have been using.

However, the whole group was cool with that. I had my back and flank combos down so I was keeping up my greased lightnings along with my damage buffs. You know, the basic monk stuff.

We talked and laughed quite a bit while clearing the rooms because I'm a chatty, funny lalafell. The astrologian seemed encouraged by this because she spoke up and said she played a level 60 monk main and asked if we would like some tips. I practically bowed and replied, "Yes please!"

She went over what the higher level abilities did and when to use them. She further went into how to get my greased lightnings up faster. She was nice about it and welcomed my and the other monk's questions.

After that, I felt like we both were playing remarkably better. All it took was some kind words and a little tweaking to get us on the right path. I forgot to get her name but I'll always appreciate the extra time she took to help me and the other player.

Thank you Ms. Astrologian! If you see this message, Nonomy Nomy (my monk) gives you a hug!

When your co-healer has been (likely) abused so much in the past about not DPSing that you wind up in a trial/raid with them and they don't leave Cleric stance. Almost ever. And I can't even be upset with them before it because the community did that to them.

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the community did that to them

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As far as I'm concerned they're doing that to themselves. Nobody expects a Healer to be in Cleric all the time. If they make that choice, it's just as bad as not using it at all (outside of very specific circumstances, both ways).

Not mine, but I put my healer through hell.

Level 50 roulette put in me in Tam Tara Hard. Beginning of the run the healer says he's not a very good healer, but is looking to improve. Unwittingly I already gave him that opportunity. I derped, and it wasn't until partway through the final boss that I forgot to put up Grit. However, that healer did an excellent job keeping everyone alive. He got my comm

To the Roe healer who looks like Ganondorf, and has a name to match, not even Mipha herself could heal better.

Edit: One more that happened earlier in the day. Again not mine
I was tanking Gubal NM for my first time. Things go pretty well until the final boss. First attempt we mess up on the bombs, but we learn our lesson and move on. Second attempt, things are going well until the 2nd add phase. We weren't very coordinated and ended up spawning 3 adds. So I'm dealing with the spawns and the boss doing all I can to pop cooldowns. Our AST however keeps healing remarkably well, but his MP is constantly running on fumes. By some miracle we clear the fight. Healer got my comm.