It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

If they were to do this(which I don't see happening at all), option 1 is really the only one that makes sense. It's probably both the easiest from a programming standpoint, and the most logical.

I'll take the "mismatched gear" that is at the very least more compliant with what characters would be expected to wear outside of comic relief over the usual hideous and unfunny glamour people wear.
The in-game gear is designed to really look like something that was tailored/forged in the setting, unlike most of the glamour sets people wear. Someone wearing an incomplete set with a different armor still looks a lot better to me, because worst case I can tell it's an adventurer who couldn't afford the complete thing/still hasn't completed their job/role quest, etc. If I see someone in swimwear or dumb animal costume they just come off as complete weirdos that joined me for the dungeon because reasons.

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

I'll take the "mismatched gear" that is at the very least more compliant with what characters would be expected to wear outside of comic relief over the usual hideous and unfunny glamour people wear.
The in-game gear is designed to really look like something that was tailored/forged in the setting, unlike most of the glamour sets people wear. Someone wearing an incomplete set with a different armor still looks a lot better to me, because worst case I can tell it's an adventurer who couldn't afford the complete thing/still hasn't completed their job/role quest, etc. If I see someone in swimwear or dumb animal costume they just come off as complete weirdos that joined me for the dungeon because reasons.

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To be fair, I honestly just did the recent quest that came out this patch where important NPCs are wearing the "dumb animal costumes". So people wearing this in the world is in-game lore now (if it wasn't already in other quests).

Still may not make sense in combat situations, but around town I guess it fits with the world they created.

Ok, let me try to rephrase, post in the official forums a photo with my character name not wearing a bikini and I can report you... Lol
All my sets, battle, hand, land, are glamoured yo bikinis, it's the only thing I wear, as soon as I get I new piece its bikini glamour on top of it.
But I'll concede you this option, once I receive the option to do all extreme, savage and ultimate content with the trust system. Good luck

The first post is actually an incredibly good idea.

I would like the option to hide lalafells, making them look like humans or a default humanoid npc model.

A sea urchin would also work. (Thanks Genbu)

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Originally Posted by solimiano

But I'll concede you this option, once I receive the option to do all extreme, savage and ultimate content with the trust system. Good luck

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Such a ridiculous thing to say. Especially over someone not viewing your pixel character in a pixel bikini.

Mhm glamour is =/= endgame hardcore content.

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Originally Posted by Hopebot

I would like the option to hide lalafells, making them look like humans or a default humanoid npc model.

A sea urchin would also work. (Thanks Genbu)

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Yes, me too.

Glamour is the savage endgame content... You should know this by now.
Anyway I didn't make the rules to ban every mod, square did, so if you can post a pic of me not wearing a bikini you are in breach of tos...
Now if this feature of yours is so important so is mine, I want to play with npcs that way when I fail it's only my fault and noone else.
Until then keep seeing my beautiful bikinis

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Originally Posted by solimiano

Glamour is the savage endgame content... You should know this by now.
Anyway I didn't make the rules to ban every mod, square did, so if you can post a pic of me not wearing a bikini you are in breach of tos...
Now if this feature of yours is so important so is mine, I want to play with npcs that way when I fail it's only my fault and noone else.
Until then keep seeing my beautiful bikinis

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Customization and raid content are not the same thing and you know this. You are just putting up unreachable goal posts because of how emotional you are at the very thought of people viewing a character the way you have not intended.

While I wouldn’t be opposed to savage and ultimates becoming more accessible, it’s your equating the two that is ridiculous

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Originally Posted by solimiano

Glamour is the savage endgame content... You should know this by now.
Anyway I didn't make the rules to ban every mod, square did, so if you can post a pic of me not wearing a bikini you are in breach of tos...
Now if this feature of yours is so important so is mine, I want to play with npcs that way when I fail it's only my fault and noone else.
Until then keep seeing my beautiful bikinis

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If you think your bikini glams are on the same glamour tier equivalent to savage raiding, you must keep causing wipes. Cause really? Generic glam on generic character isn't impressive.

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Originally Posted by solimiano

Glamour is the savage endgame content... You should know this by now.
Anyway I didn't make the rules to ban every mod, square did, so if you can post a pic of me not wearing a bikini you are in breach of tos...
Now if this feature of yours is so important so is mine, I want to play with npcs that way when I fail it's only my fault and noone else.
Until then keep seeing my beautiful bikinis

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Yeah, I am good thanks though. Overall if someone does not post or tell you then you have no way of knowing. You, are just showing how unhinged you are that the mere possibility of someone not seeing your character is enough to rile you up.

What do you get from the hardest content in the game? The best armour or weapons... No you get glamour, so glamour is endgame... Lol
I honestly don't give a flying toss to whatever you do or not, I just find it very easy to upset people when they are posting in the official forums that they can do something with mods, which is against tos... But do whatever you want ;)
Be safe, don't use mods, don't get banned, and enjoy the bikini life

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Originally Posted by solimiano

What do you get from the hardest content in the game? The best armour or weapons... No you get glamour, so glamour is endgame...

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Then why is my BiS set currently comprised of savage gear and augmented tome gear that used savage mats to get? (Not to mention, the TOP weapon has an extra materia slot so even that is an upgrade of some kind)

https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acc...917.1654817530

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Originally Posted by solimiano

Ok, let me try to rephrase, post in the official forums a photo with my character name not wearing a bikini and I can report you... Lol
All my sets, battle, hand, land, are glamoured yo bikinis, it's the only thing I wear, as soon as I get I new piece its bikini glamour on top of it.
But I'll concede you this option, once I receive the option to do all extreme, savage and ultimate content with the trust system. Good luck

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You'll concede on this point only if you get something in return? Yeah, if they add this, you'll get nothing and like it.

If someone post a picture, on the forums of your character, not wearing a bikini, yet again, how can you prove THEY are the ones who took it? You cannot. There is a reason they don't accept screenshots.

Again, you have no power over someone posting a screenshot of your character and need to get off this high horse like you think it'll all go exactly how you think it will.

Hrothgar in 2B Leggins walks by. I can

A- Freak out, get upset, and/or tell SE we need a Glamour Toggle to hide them/change their look
B- Go on about my day, and just not look at them

I mean seriously, there are Millions of other Pixels to see on the screen that can distract you from a Glamour you dont like.

Isn't ultimate the hardest content you can do, and as far as I'm aware, most likely I'll be wrong, the only you get from ultimate is glamour. So savage doesn't count since it's not the hardest content, and upgraded tome gear can be gotten just by running casual content like I do

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

Then why is my BiS set currently comprised of savage gear and augmented tome gear that used savage mats to get? (Not to mention, the TOP weapon has an extra materia slot so even that is an upgrade of some kind)

https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acc...917.1654817530

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You actually look like you would make a good Edgy Anti-Hero in an Anime or Videogame.
And I mean Edgy in a way that makes you think "OH MY GOD THEY ARE SO COOL"
Maybe with a bad Stereotypical Backstory that we look past because we are to busy saying how cool you are.

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Originally Posted by solimiano

Isn't ultimate the hardest content you can do, and as far as I'm aware, most likely I'll be wrong, the only you get from ultimate is glamour. So savage doesn't count since it's not the hardest content, and upgraded tome gear can be gotten just by running casual content like I do

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The ultimate weapon is better than the savage weapon. It has the same stats and 1 extra materia slot. The TOP weapon is currently post-ultimate BiS.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

You actually look like you would make a good Edgy Anti-Hero in an Anime or Videogame.
And I mean Edgy in a way that makes you think "OH MY GOD THEY ARE SO COOL"

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Haha, thanks. This is my outfit for TOP, normally my DRK glamour isn't as edgy lol. Maybe I'll go with this long term once I get the TOP weapon.

Ok, I'll change my request, post a pic on the official forum, from your character's perspective, with your character name, showing my character without a bikini...
Can you really do that??
Lol, how much more bait do I need to put in there, the only reason to get upset at my post is if you are running mods, which again is against tos...
This isn't Reddit or discord, its the official forums...
Did you realise that in none of my posts I opposed the idea of having an official feature to remove glamours, that it was always aimed at people that mod the game and boast about it...
I know English isn't my first language, but you are failing at the mos basic level of reading comprehension, unless you are admitting that you illegally mod the game.
Like always, enjoy the bikini life... I think I need to put that on a signature.

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Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44

The ultimate weapon is better than the savage weapon. It has the same stats and 1 extra materia slot. The TOP weapon is currently post-ultimate BiS.



Haha, thanks. This is my outfit for TOP, normally my DRK glamour isn't as edgy lol. Maybe I'll go with this long term once I get the TOP weapon.

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Didn't know that I thought it just the same but with a glam feature, ok you are right and ultimate has an advantage over tome and savage.
I still won't do it lol

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Originally Posted by solimiano

Lol, how much more bait do I need to put in there, the only reason to get upset at my post is if you are running mods, which again is against tos...

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What mods do I have on console? No, people can not like your request for other reasons. 1 being that you’re clearly a troll with no handle on themselves dealing with other people’s visual perspective of your character. The only reason to be upset at what’s on other people’s screens would be insecurities which would be a personal issue for you

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Originally Posted by solimiano

What do you get from the hardest content in the game? The best armour or weapons... No you get glamour, so glamour is endgame... Lol
I honestly don't give a flying toss to whatever you do or not, I just find it very easy to upset people when they are posting in the official forums that they can do something with mods, which is against tos... But do whatever you want ;)
Be safe, don't use mods, don't get banned, and enjoy the bikini life

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Savages have BiS gear when they are current. So no, they aren't just for glamour purposes. But even still, if someone posts a picture of the game with your character, name showing -and all, with you not in a bikini, you still cannot prove that you have never worn the outfit shown. It would be he said/she said.

And as the mod is not being used to harass you, the GMs and Forum Mods will most likely not punish the person. Even Yoshi P has been pretty grey about the rules. They more so care about if someone is being harassed because of a mod.

I don't think that it would be a good idea to see everyone in their unglamed gear.
That would be totally boring and often would look really bad, too.

I don't get why people are upset about others people's glams. The only glam that is important, is our owns. Everything else is not our business.

If someone wears a glam that we don't like, than we should just stop to watch it more than necessary.
Furthermore glam is very often also some kind of selfexpression for a lot of people. And this part and diversity would be lost, if we would turn off all glam.

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Originally Posted by Heavenchild

I don't think that it would be a good idea to see everyone in their unglamed gear.
That would be totally boring and often would look really bad, too.

I don't get why people are upset about others people's glams. The only glam that is important, is our owns. Everything else is not our business.

If someone wears a glam that we don't like, than we should just stop to watch it more than necessary.
Furthermore glam is very often also some kind of selfexpression for a lot of people. And this part and diversity would be lost, if we would turn off all glam.

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I mean, I'm not sure how many times it has to be said that it would be a toggle that is *OFF* by default. You'd have to read patch notes and/or actually go into options and dig to find it, which a lot of people probably wouldn't even realize it existed unless they *solely* wanted the feature and Googled it.

You'll never know if we turn off your "self expression" and this is coming from a dude with a frog head.

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Originally Posted by Heavenchild

I don't think that it would be a good idea to see everyone in their unglamed gear.
That would be totally boring and often would look really bad, too.

I don't get why people are upset about others people's glams. The only glam that is important, is our owns. Everything else is not our business.

If someone wears a glam that we don't like, than we should just stop to watch it more than necessary.
Furthermore glam is very often also some kind of selfexpression for a lot of people. And this part and diversity would be lost, if we would turn off all glam.

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To be fair, anyone who would use this feature wouldn't care about your glam anyway. They probably don't know you, nor do they care to know you. No harm, no foul.

People play this game for a multitude of reasons. And evey reason is valid in some way. The reason this feature is being requested is for immersion. And people should be allowed to immerse themselves in the world and in the game play if they want to. Because at the end of the day, it doesn't effect me one bit if Suzy Kalisgard or w/e sees my character as I designed or as some mismatched rando in a crowd. Because Suzy Kalisgard means nothing to me. So it's okay that I mean nothing to them, y'know?

The argument of self-expression is fine. I get it. But at the same time, you have to also understand that the people who use this feature wouldn't be giving you the validation or affirmation that you are looking for in the first place. So again I repeat; no harm, no foul.

In my mind I have it where as soon as someone sees my character in a different outfit than what I put her in, it is no longer my character. It doesn't effect my game or my social interactions with friends. Therefore, it's none of my concern. I'm not sure if that made sense. I know everyone feels differently about different things but that's my viewpoint, at least.

I don't know if this has been suggested before, but what if they just added an option that replaces other player models with the placeholder characters that they use in the job actions trailer? Wouldn't this satisfy both sides?

The side that wants this option would get their wish because those placeholder characters are in job gear. And the side that doesn't want to be seen in anything they're not wearing would also have no discernible features of their character seen in those placeholders. Wouldn't that be the solution?

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Originally Posted by Aravell

I don't know if this has been suggested before, but what if they just added an option that replaces other player models with the placeholder characters that they use in the job actions trailer? Wouldn't this satisfy both sides?

The side that wants this option would get their wish because those placeholder characters are in job gear. And the side that doesn't want to be seen in anything they're not wearing would also have no discernible features of their character seen in those placeholders. Wouldn't that be the solution?

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If we're going to make the toggle to generic placeholders... I vote for those blank dolls at the end of puppets bunker that merge together into a ball and giant woman... >.>

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

If we're going to make the toggle to generic placeholders... I vote for those blank dolls at the end of puppets bunker that merge together into a ball and giant woman... >.>

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https://i.imgur.com/0ekiOFy.jpg

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Originally Posted by Joven

https://i.imgur.com/0ekiOFy.jpg

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yes... imagine a whole world full of them because the toggle made everyone else's character look like one of those dolls :3 lol

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

yes... imagine a whole world full of them because the toggle made everyone else's character look like one of those dolls :3 lol

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I mean, the models are already there. Might as well put them to use.

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Originally Posted by Joven

I mean, the models are already there. Might as well put them to use.

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part of me is just imagining someone finding that toggle if they did that and having a reaction like that geico commercial with the attic.

"cool I can hide other ppl's glamours"

*clicky*

System Message: Enjoy your game!

"Nope..."

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

part of me is just imagining someone finding that toggle if they did that and having a reaction like that geico commercial with the attic.

"cool I can hide other ppl's glamours"

*clicky*

System Message: Enjoy your game!

"Nope..."

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https://i.imgur.com/zClPESj.gif

People argue with immersion. But what immersion are you talking about, when you want to display-off what the world brings to life?

I know what you mean. But when you play the story, you see the NPCs. Even most of the dungeons you can run with NPCs. There is already no big need for other players.

And how it would be 'immersion' if all cities would be filled, for example, just with people in the same default glam-off looks. Does it feel like immersion, when most people look the same way? That's boring and kinda clone-like. (at least in my opinion).

You are right, that it does not effect the other players, when someone turns of the glam. But I think it's a loss. Because also very good and well designed glam combinations would be displayed-off, too.

Maybe it would be cool to have an extra roleplay server to travel to on every DC (a server without home world option). With some restrictions and options, and the option to turn off glam in general, or from specific people, like some kind of blacklist.

But I think, that a generell option to turn off glam wouldn't be so good. : )

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Originally Posted by Heavenchild

People argue with immersion. But what immersion are you talking about, when you want to display-off what the world brings to life?

I know what you mean. But when you play the story, you see the NPCs. Even most of the dungeons you can run with NPCs. There is already no big need for other players.

And how it would be 'immersion' if all cities would be filled, for example, just with people in the same default glam-off looks. Does it feel like immersion, when most people look the same way? That's boring and kinda clone-like. (at least in my opinion).

You are right, that it does not effect the other players, when someone turns of the glam. But I think it's a loss. Because also very good and well designed glam combinations would be displayed-off, too.

Maybe it would be cool to have an extra roleplay server to travel to on every DC (a server without home world option). With some restrictions and options, and the option to turn off glam in general, or from specific people, like some kind of blacklist.

But I think, that a generell option to turn off glam wouldn't be so good. : )

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I get where your coming from. I think it comes down to personal preference. Already in a lot of RPGs all the non-important NPCs look very similar. Even in this game a lot if the random, non-interactable NPCs look the same. The idea people were proposing was giving you a base model for your class or race, rather than every person looking the same.

I guess it's each their own, but I find it hard to believe that seeing a bunch of same faced NPC looking characters would be more immersion-breaking than a fuchsia Hrothgar in matching metallic lime green crop-top and 2B bottoms.

Besides, the feature would be toggleable. It wouldn't be an end-all-be-all. Could turn it on for story and turn it off again if you just want to be social.

bumping this thread again as being annoying is still a valid form of personal expression

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...se-of-portrait

Wait, SE banned this guy because of a portrait. Surely you guys are against this, right? He was just expressing himself using 'clothes' and emotes already in the game. You can just turn your head away and not look at it right?

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...se-of-portrait

Wait, SE banned this guy because of a portrait. Surely you guys are against this, right? He was just expressing himself using 'clothes' and emotes already in the game. You can just turn your head away and not look at it right?

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Yes
I think its an issue. There is nothing Lewd, sexual, or TOS breaking about that, I dont think the guy deserves a ban over that. imo at least.
And also Yes, I can turn my head and look the other way. Its really not as difficult as you might try make it sound. Satire or not.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Yes
I think its an issue. There is nothing Lewd, sexual, or TOS breaking about that, I dont think the guy deserves a ban over that. imo at least.
And also Yes, I can turn my head and look the other way. Its really not as difficult as you might try make it sound. Satire or not.

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Seems SE does not agree.

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

Seems SE does not agree.

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Neat, and I disagree as well.
But, its their game, so their rules, their decision. Just like if this Hide Glamour thing ever happens.