Discussing your 'unpopular' opinions

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Originally Posted by Rosentretter

Male outfit. I think I don't have such problem with the female version because 1) it got released so long ago that many girls already don't use it, 2) I don't tend to look in game to female chars, 3) those kind of costumes are like... "made to be for females". They look good on girls, they look acceptable on girls. In guys just don't.

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There's no real reason a bunny outfit works on girls but not guys. Heard of Chippendales? You can easily give males an outfit like this. I mean if a male WoL shouldn't look that way, why should a female one? Most female avatars tend to look like budget strippers the way they're dressed. Clearly little more than an expression of the fantasies of their player.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

Big pulls are a sign of bad tanking.

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This is not a unpopular opinion, It's just straight up false. I'm actually more curious why you think that big pulls alone are a sign of a bad tank then, let's say...a tank that doesn't know how to rotate cooldowns or use them period. I'm legit curious to see what your response is.

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Originally Posted by Rosentretter

Maybe I'm too old school, but the idea of having a male bunny outfit or whatever skimpy kind of glamour makes me sick.

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It sounds to me, that this is of a more personal morality issue and less of a age issue, but I wouldn't touch that area of topic with a 50 foot pole. How old you are has no relevance to wanting to see or even dress up in revealing or pretty outfits. To each their own, I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Lauront

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I honestly think if a player wants to express their fantasies, there's plenty of that kind of games around the internet. But well, in the end I can't do nothing if SE decides to add the thing.

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Originally Posted by Selova

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I guess my view of seeing things is different from the rest of people. I was raised in a christian family and even if I'm not that attached to it, it bothers me the fact of this being wanted as a "need to be implemented". Well, we won't discuss religion here, it's just my unpopular opinion: I don't want male bunny outfit.

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Originally Posted by Rosentretter

I guess my view of seeing things is different from the rest of people. I was raised in a christian family and even if I'm not that attached to it, it bothers me the fact of this being wanted as a "need to be implemented". Well, we won't discuss religion here, it's just my unpopular opinion: I don't want male bunny outfit.

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There's much worse than bunny ears already.

Hmmm, how about turning off health bars on Bosses once they are under 10% for Extreme content?

Why? Because there are far too many parties where the DPSers brains turn to mush once they see that -4% health bar and they get themselves cleaved/blownup/failmechanics when they had previously been perfect the whole run!

(This is of course half in jest.)

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Originally Posted by Rosentretter

Male outfit. I think I don't have such problem with the female version because 1) it got released so long ago that many girls already don't use it, 2) I don't tend to look in game to female chars, 3) those kind of costumes are like... "made to be for females". They look good on girls, they look acceptable on girls. In guys just don't.

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Huh? Wow. Nice to know that males dressing up as bunnies make people feel sick XD... I mean idgaf. But I went as a bunny IRL for Halloween last October and I don't see it as "skimpy" or see it in a "fantasy" way.

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It's fun to dress up! I'd especially love it more in-game. Why do females get all the dress-up clothes? I WANT TO BE A BUNNY! AND I WANT TO BE A BUNNY NOW! Or give us Alphinaud height for Elezen. Pls and ty! I would be just as happy with that. Q.Q

Or we could just wait for the Viera race in v5.0/v6.0 (hopefully)


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I still want the bunny outfit tho.

Oh geez.

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Originally Posted by Rosentretter

I honestly think if a player wants to express their fantasies, there's plenty of that kind of games around the internet. But well, in the end I can't do nothing if SE decides to add the thing.

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My point is it is simply a grain of sand falling upon an already existing pile of detritus. There's ways to implement it, though, that avoid making it overly feminine, e.g. the aforementioned Chippendale outfit.

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Originally Posted by Selova

This is not a unpopular opinion, It's just straight up false. I'm actually more curious why you think that big pulls alone are a sign of a bad tank then, let's say...a tank that doesn't know how to rotate cooldowns or use them period. I'm legit curious to see what your response is.

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Agreed, it's the ideal form of tanking.

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

...How so?

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A good tank should minimise the danger and risk as far as possible. Each pull should therefore be as small as possible to make it as easy as possible.
If this makes a run boring because it becomes so easy - then people are doing things right. During a really good run one should never be in any real danger.

In a few places it is almost necessary to make small pulls, and it is therefore a good habit to get into.
Large pulls are just sloppy tanking that only works because parties usually outgear content significantly.

One could also say that large pulls being common is a sign of bad encounter design.

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Originally Posted by Selova

This is not a unpopular opinion, It's just straight up false. I'm actually more curious why you think that big pulls alone are a sign of a bad tank then, let's say...a tank that doesn't know how to rotate cooldowns or use them period. I'm legit curious to see what your response is.

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A sign, not the only sign. There are other ways in which one can play badly of course.

Healers that aren't dpsing in their down time are playing sub-par and it is a perfectly valid reason to kick.

I don't hate Alphinaud.

Mentors aren't all bad or even mostly bad.

The biggest problem facing this game is the chasm separating the hypercasuals from everyone else.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

A good tank should minimise the danger and risk as far as possible.

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I think it's pretty dangerous if you end up boring your healer enough that they fall asleep. Then again... The few I did actually fall asleep in, nobody died. Mobs tickle enemies to death in dungeons and it makes bosses so boring.

Ok time to double-down

I feel that some body pieces need a "/button-up" toggle option. There are some glamours I have to pass on because there's far too much chest/breast exposed to be used in an outfit I'm working on.

It's also mildly annoying when there is a sizeable difference in "material" when comparing the same leg piece on a female, compared to a male. Perhaps they should add a "/pants" toggle, while they are at it. Glamour a leg piece on a female retainer, and like magic," it's like the leg piece was never there.

An "/open-toe" toggle option would also be useful, for those foot pieces with open toes that I'm sure no one asked for.

Oh, and let's not forget to include a "/feather" toggle option for those feathers that never seen to dye the right color with the piece it's attached to.

More glamour options are your friend :)

PS: Honorable mention to the pieces that look fine undyed, but look extra special awful when applying a dye. Thank the Twelve for the dye preview option.

PS (pt2): Extra special mention to that one accent on a piece that never changes color, no matter what dye is applied.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

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I'm well aware of this. Speedrunning began with 2.0 as getting that Darklight (if you hadn't in 1.0) required running the 3 level 50 dungeons available ad nausium.

I feel the idea of speedrunning becoming the "best way to play" and meta overall happened when Brayflox Nonstop (Longstop HM) came out. Since it was so easy to zerg. The place could be done so quickly that it was far faster to just spam this one dungeon to cap than roulettes.

I was there, we all would party finder Bray HM, do about 5 or so runs before we were fried, and then do it again. It sucked, but suddenly everyone and anyone had a way to cap tomes easily, not just the "no-lifers." And it just stuck.

It's all efficiency>enjoyment.

I think the last straw for me (since I've never been a fan, and I healer main, too, so I do get your angle) was just how hard SB's 4.0 dungeons tried to break parties of it with gating and harder hitting mobs. There was no bad luck getting a bad tank and stressing out trying to save them; all tanks were squishy.

Couple this with the separate issue of too many tanks desperately clinging on to their HW gear and just taking the concept of healers adjust so far it was skirting harassment.

It was a whole series of things that make me grow to abhor it, even if it's within my capability to carry these shit parties.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

One could also say that large pulls being common is a sign of bad encounter design.

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This I think is a more interesting discussion than simply saying "tanks who do large pulls are bad/wrong/needlessly creating complications for their group". It's frankly gross the amount of tools tanks and healers have to trivialize massive packs (tank CDs, including immunity for a good number of seconds every 2-3 minutes save PLD, healer oGCDs in the range of 600-700 potency which is like 1/3rd a tank's health bar, regens also removing the need to cast actual healing spells, etc). I know people are going to bust out the "we just outgear everything so bad by now", but this dungeon's gear is like 325 or something, people are 340, that's not an egregious amount of overgearing and people were still chain-pulling day 1 with no prior knowledge of the dungeon. Hell, doing small pulls, I was able to heal a SAM and MCH through trash packs just on my SCH, while still being able to DPS (our tank dc'd after the first boss of Hell's Lid).

I feel like the mobs are just weaksauce all around. Being able to pull everything wall-to-wall should be the hallmark of an EXTREMELY coordinated, max-geared group, not something a random bunch of pugs cobbled together can achieve with minimal stress and effort. Right now it's the optimal way to play, so people doing that are absolutely correct, but it's just really mind-numbing to do every dungeon as a healer skating by on just regens, oGCD heals, and AOE damage spam.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

And on the flip side to this, all of the Veteran Reward outfits were from the male characters, and there were no options for female characters at all.

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Also no villain outfits, and mostly protagonist only.

My opinions:
Slashing, piercing and blunt resistance should have been replaced with elemental weakness/resistance and make elements way more important, give us a use for all those elemental weapons we get...
There should be a 4th role: support....
Mounted combat should be a thing... on land in air and at sea...
There should be more sidequest chains that matter... with dungeons and trials gated within them.

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Originally Posted by Okamimaru

elemental weakness/resistance and make elements way more important

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That’s coming in Eureka. Please look forward to it~.

I like the glamour dresser. I will never ever put 200 pieces in this anyway and it finally made it possible for me to put down a great outfit for my SCH and MCH without bothering with the prisms.

The game needs something different. I played since the new release. It's been far too long of the same old same old. Tomestone grinding...and so on. In this game you can predict 50 % of what's going to be in the next patch before it even comes out. I hope Eureka will change things up a bit but it does get tiring. My sub ran out today and I am almost Lvl 70 with my MCH...but I am not sure I'll resub because what's the point?

I actually like Fates. However, the zones are way too empty. Game needs way more open world content and reasons to get out there and less instanced stuff.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

There have also been people stepping forward saying that the only reason they play a female character in this game is due to feeling like male characters are simply neglected by comparison.

Of course, whenever anybody does bring up the disparity between the male and female outfits there's never a lack of someone else swooping in to downplay any concerns, legitimate though they may be. Funny how that works - especially since those selfsame individuals are always playing female characters themselves.

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^^^^^^^^^^Thank you. You are exactly right.

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Originally Posted by -Lilia-

Huh? Wow. Nice to know that males dressing up as bunnies make people feel sick XD... I mean idgaf. But I went as a bunny IRL for Halloween last October and I don't see it as "skimpy" or see it in a "fantasy" way.

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And you look cute as hell. <3

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Originally Posted by Rosentretter

Maybe I'm too old school, but the idea of having a male bunny outfit or whatever skimpy kind of glamour makes me sick.

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Not to be rude, but a fantasy game where there are cat people, lizard people, and giant birds that are used for transportation seems like a silly place for you to have conservative views.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

A good tank should minimise the danger and risk as far as possible. Each pull should therefore be as small as possible to make it as easy as possible.
If this makes a run boring because it becomes so easy - then people are doing things right. During a really good run one should never be in any real danger.

In a few places it is almost necessary to make small pulls, and it is therefore a good habit to get into.
Large pulls are just sloppy tanking that only works because parties usually outgear content significantly.

One could also say that large pulls being common is a sign of bad encounter design.

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I'd hate to be in a duty with you tbh. I'd rather not do a dungeon that takes an hour because the tank is pulling 1 enemy at a time. Nope. I would leave, and happily take the 30min penalty.

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Originally Posted by Rosentretter

I repeat my unpopular opinion from some pages ago: males don't need a bunny outfit.

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Males don't need anything, but that's not the point.

The bunny outfit was the first glamour released that had no male equivalent that caused everyone to notice how we were only a few patches in and already female avatars were getting more vanity options than males. Something that's gotten so progressively worse that we have, as Theodric stated, players choosing female avatars just for some clothing variety.

This all stems from how many outfits made for guys end up unisex, while the opposite never occurs, while females still get uniques. The Sailor set, Best Men's set, and Gambler set were all supposed to be male locked.

The bunny outfit also keeps repeatedly coming up as SE, years ago, stated they were working on a male friendly redesign, and then radio silence.

The bunny thing is probably more because the people who want it don't really want a bunny costume for men, they want the female costume exactly as it is for men, fishnets and all. Anime has no shortage of bunny guys...look at the various Alice shoujo mangas to see one for example, but they tend to be conservatively dressed. I'm not sure they'd go full bunny; that's a lot more like asking them to make thongs or camisoles for female characters.

Give males a (teddy) Bear outfit.

Teddy bear > bunny.

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

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Incorrect. A good tank will properly utilize cooldowns and pull as much as they can safely handle without wiping the group. What you're suggesting is borderline insane, so much so that i honestly thought your response was satire. As someone that regularly plays healers and has a max level scholar, please never tank like what this poster is suggesting. Unless of course, your primary goal is to put your healer to sleep.

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Originally Posted by -Lilia-

Huh? Wow. Nice to know that males dressing up as bunnies make people feel sick XD... I mean idgaf. But I went as a bunny IRL for Halloween last October and I don't see it as "skimpy" or see it in a "fantasy" way.

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That highlight tho, please teach me your ways.

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Originally Posted by Selova

Incorrect. A good tank will properly utilize cooldowns and pull as much as they can safely handle without wiping the group. What you're suggesting is borderline insane, so much so that i honestly thought your response was satire. As someone that regularly plays healers and has a max level scholar, please never tank like what this poster is suggesting. Unless of course, your primary goal is to put your healer to sleep.

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Seconded.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

Healers that aren't dpsing in their down time are playing sub-par and it is a perfectly valid reason to kick.

I don't hate Alphinaud.

Mentors aren't all bad or even mostly bad.

The biggest problem facing this game is the chasm separating the hypercasuals from everyone else.

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I share all of these opinions. O:

I personally enjoy crafting and gathering more than PVE/PVP

Elzen females has the best animations, walking, running, standing, sitting etc.
I love how my fem elzen runs softly, not like other races jumping like maniacs.

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

I share all of these opinions. O:

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Well you should add me on discord so we can form an echochamber of our own opinions and never consider alternate views.

(I've noticed you also enjoy some sass/sarcasm. But for real if I haven't offended you horribly on here anywhere we should totally be friends. moromurasaki#5719)

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Originally Posted by Nedkel

Elzen females has the best animations, walking, running, standing, sitting etc.
I love how my fem elzen runs softly, not like other races jumping like maniacs.

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I am coming to agree. My alt is an Elezen and her emotes and expressions are very genuine looking.

Minfilia is a boring and uninteresting character.

There should be less race/gender exclusive gear.

I really enjoyed Alphinaud and Lyse's character development.

I like the little text 'options' we get sometimes, but wish there were more options than "nice" or "horrible person" for some of them so we could give our characters a bit more personality (even if it doesn't actually affect the story outcomes).

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Originally Posted by Avidria

There should be less race/gender exclusive gear.

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I agree with you on gender, but I was under the impression that the only race exclusive gear was the starter gear. Unless I'm wrong about that.

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

I agree with you on gender, but I was under the impression that the only race exclusive gear was the starter gear. Unless I'm wrong about that.

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I mostly mean the look of the hempen gear - it's the same gear, but looks different on every race. I love the Elezen and Highlander pieces, but can't stand playing either race. :c

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Originally Posted by WilhelmWhite

And you look cute as hell. <3

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Oh! O.O thank you! I just wanted to prove that Men CAN pull off bunnies too >___> lol.
<3

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

That highlight tho, please teach me your ways.

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"Teach me Senpai"~! XD
Is it really that noticeable LOL who am I kidding. If you can't see my highlighter from space, I'm not wearing enough. :cool: It's just powder highlight and liquid illuminator! <3

Anyway, I love Elezen and their height and all, they look amazing! But I'm like 5'6-5'7 irl. What I would love is if they made a 3rd clan which resembles a different version of the races. Like how Hyur Midlander and Highlander are completely different.
For the 3rd clan of each race to be slightly different! Make Elezen's shorter and cuter, Roedagyn give them the Galka tail back from FFXI. Female Au Ra, looove the cuteness of them! but create a fiercer version (like the original design) to match with the males (and vice versa), for a 3rd clan make Hyur's like Gosetsu. Idk what to give Lalafells, maybe make a fatter/fuller version? THAT WOULD BE SO CUTE. I mean this could be implemented wayyyyyy in the future like v10 or something XD. I'm patient enough to wait! :) And even if not it's just an idea.

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Originally Posted by -Lilia-

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You look fabulous in that! :D