#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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Originally Posted by PercibelTheren

1. Queues in Endwalker were below 5 minutes for me for most of Endwalker. Can't speak for launch, definitely not this long.

2. New content doesn't excuse zero knowledge of their basic abilities. No Kardia, no shield Sages, Freecure fishing, Medica II spamming, not using rez. Lots of Glare mages around, too.

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a healing job realised in end walker. not 2 dps that everyone is playing

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Originally Posted by aiqa

Anacdotal reports about the number of healers you see, have nothing to do with the healer strike. Did you survey them if they are happy with the role? If they read about the healer strike. What they thought about the points in the manifesto. Etc.

It's just bad faith prodding, trying to invalidate the complaints about healers with nonsense.

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that is why this strike is pointless. you continue to play the job you claim you hate. you continue to que as it, get achievements on it. do high end content on it. your not sending yoshi p any message other than "i will still play this job"

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Originally Posted by Fuzzout

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The point is, most a us are gladly open to debate. But that means coming with constructive and valid argument.

But, most of the detractors are coming with a random dismissive thought dropped without reading a thing and are like :
- just unsub
- trollolol I've seen 50 healers in the wild, I didn't talk to them but where are you strikers?
- only minorities are using the forum, I came and used this same forum especially to tell you that the majority I represent doesn't use it.
- play other jobs
- you're too casual, do savage to have a voice
- you're too experienced because you have done savage to have a voice

And so on...

So we reply in the same manner, mostly to keep the thread on the 1st page, like those people do.

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Originally Posted by Hellebore_Ghrian

The point is, most a us are gladly open to debate. But that means coming with constructive and valid argument.

But, most of the detractors are coming with a random dismissive thought dropped without reading a thing and are like :
- just unsub
- trollolol I've seen 50 healers in the wild, I didn't talk to them but where are you strikers?
- only minorities are using the forum, I came and used this same forum especially to tell you that the majority I represent doesn't use it.
- play other jobs
- you're too casual, do savage to have a voice
- you're too experienced because you have done savage to have a voice

And so on...

So we reply in the same manner, mostly to keep the thread on the 1st page, like those people do.

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It's funny, of all the things in this game, it's healers being dog water that actually unites both the Hardcore and the Casual. Both sides agree that the way healers are designed is an actual tragedy, and that the Jobs are literally being designed for players that have even less skill than the most casual of players.

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Originally Posted by Isala

It's funny, of all the things in this game, it's healers being dog water that actually unites both the Hardcore and the Casual. Both sides agree that the way healers are designed is an actual tragedy, and that the Jobs are literally being designed for players that have even less skill than the most casual of players.

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I agree, I have less skill than most casual players; I'll see you in Savage then. o/

- I agree a more involved rotation should be added, HOWEVER - it CANNOT be on par with DPS, not even slightly. It also cannot be on par with tanks due to the nature of healers as a whole. As a DPS you have your eyes glued to cooldowns and job gauge (until you drill the fight into your system and your GCD's are basically set in stone for the entire fight) - this doesn't work with healers as there's damage variance, mistakes and general inconsistency when doing content in DF/PF setting.

So I'd say something akin to a tank-like rotation (without more button bloat, please and thank.)

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

that is why this strike is pointless. you continue to play the job you claim you hate. you continue to que as it, get achievements on it. do high end content on it. your not sending yoshi p any message other than "i will still play this job"

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The intent of the strike is to get attention for the complaints healers have had for years. It already worked. There is 0 chance the devs are unaware of the strike.
And it's a cause to rally behind for people who do agree with the strike.
We have no further influence on what the devs will do. And that is fine.
We have no way or intent to force other players to stop playing a role they still enjoy. And that is fine.

And I am very sure that people giving feedback about healers aren't trying to adhere to your opinions about when it's worth giving feedback, or how they should give that feedback. You (and other people trying do to the same) are a useful vehicle to keep the thread visible, but that is about all you are to me.

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Originally Posted by Fuzzout

I agree a more involved rotation should be added, HOWEVER - it CANNOT be on par with DPS, not even slightly. It also cannot be on par with tanks due to the nature of healers as a whole.

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I don't think anyone here has asked for a dps/tank like rotation.

Some of ppl here talked about tank like complexity, but not rotation.

Especially GCD rotation in fact is mainly rejected.

But you can do something with more shorter dots, procs, skill with cd being reduced by using some other skills and so on without having an actual rigid rotation.

What almost all ppl talking about healers dps side are more like : "There's room between 1111111111112111111111112 and BLM/monk whatever other roles play style."

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Originally Posted by Hellebore_Ghrian

I don't think anyone here has asked for a dps/tank like rotation.

Some of ppl here talked about tank like complexity, but not rotation.

Especially GCD rotation in fact is mainly rejected.

But you can do something with more shorter dots, procs, skill with cd being reduced by using some other skills and so on without having an actual rigid rotation.

What almost all ppl talking about healers dps side are more like : "There's room between 1111111111112111111111112 and BLM/monk whatever other roles play style."

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Ah yes, sorry!!! - this is what I meant! I just call everything a "rotation", if its a button I press (regardless of its function) its part of the "rotation"

like my 3rd oGCD being food because I'm a potato who forgot to do that pre-pull.

The new oGCD everyone seems to have got is a start but its definitely and not nearly enough to make it varied. I think the core designers of the PVP bars should be involved in giving the support rotation a glow-up. Whoever was responsible for the pvp skills knocked it out of the park.

congrats on 600 pages! :3
almost to 400 likes too

It's not a matter of difficulty.

The more people know a specific piece of content the better they play, and the better they play the less you get to play Healer. And when you're not playing Healer, you're playing the Job as a DPS... And Healer DPS gameplay could be done by this
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...pping_Bird.jpg


They could either make the DPS portion of the class better, or give them something else to do when not healing as the way they create fights the only conclusion I can make is that developers don't want healers to heal.

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

It's not a matter of difficulty.

The more people know a specific piece of content the better they play, and the better they play the less you get to play Healer. And when you're not playing Healer, you're playing the Job as a DPS... And Healer DPS gameplay could be done by this

They could either make the DPS portion of the class better, or give them something else to do when not healing as the way they create fights the only conclusion I can make is that developers don't want healers to heal.

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Something like - remove passive regen of job gauge and have the healer rotation be executed a certain way to generate job gauge. Although looking back on what I wrote - this might be an unpopular opinion.