Viera as the next new race~ Show your support

While I still wish for a unique race (like their concept art for Au Ra) I understand why it'd be unlikely to happen (costly, and weird races get chosen less than human derivatives) but, I have to say that the forum and poll desire for Viera has been quite strong and consistent.

That's got to mean something lol.

I think the two images aren't separate ideas of what the viera could be. Instead, I think they were showing adult (playable) versions and the child (npc) versions. I'm in strong support of this race as I feel FFXIV is lacking a tall, elegant, and mature looking race.

The main argument against it that I can see happening is that we have cat people, so it would be overly similar. I would definitely like to see them added personally, though. But if it came down to choosing between having significant improvements to character customization, or adding a new race I would choose the former. We need more control over our faces, very very badly.:p

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Originally Posted by Ramath

feel FFXIV is lacking a tall, elegant, and mature looking race.

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Excluding mature part, you'd love this.

http://m.imgur.com/a/0omkW

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Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme

I'm down for Viera, as long as we can use carrots as weapons.

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I'm down for it... >w>

http://www.valkyriestudio.net/cc/cro...ice/model1.jpg
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20080716212230

i throw up seeing this

I'd rather have Genomes (zidanes "race" from ffix) as a race to play =D, my favorite ff game. (but with the body style from dissidia, not the weird. Big head like in ix lol)

Can't tell me he isn't super awesome.


http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20130331055948

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20130331055916

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/...20090917171249

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Originally Posted by Shougun

I have to say that the forum and poll desire for Viera has been quite strong and consistent.

That's got to mean something lol.

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I agree. Viera seems like a popular race many people will want to play. I hope more people show their support in the future as well.
It would be interesting to see another official race poll. However, I believe viera (as depicted in the concept art) should have its own category in this poll.

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Originally Posted by Senn

I agree. Viera seems like a popular race many people will want to play. I hope more people show their support in the future as well.

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And at the same time, many don't. Especially as it won't 100% look like a Viera from Ivalice.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Ait won't 100% look like a Viera from Ivalice.

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Hopefully, it will look like it is depicted in the concept art (elegant and/or cute). I am also fine with normal feet instead of digitigrade feet.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

And at the same time, many don't. Especially as it won't 100% look like a Viera from Ivalice.

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Wonder how many are against it, that'd be an interesting number to know - if it's highly contentious or not. Is your concern the feet? I imagine ears might be a pain similar to the horns for the devs, but probably do able - might get a few derpy helmets though ahaha.

Personally really want something just different, but as I've seen their process with Au Ra and of course we have the other races.. I have a feeling that's just never going to happen and they'll all be more similar than dissimilar (which I understand why, but still - will wish in one hand and drop kupo nuts in the other).

So I've resigned that I'll never find something I like more than a Highlander*, and just thought that the Viera fans have been pretty steady. I thought that would mean something, consistency is good.

* (I chase lalafells sometimes to get the cuteness bug out of my system sometimes /pet /pet >.>)

concept art:

https://i.imgur.com/yl8E3Be.png http://i.imgur.com/3X1HNa9.png https://i.imgur.com/26pX3Ky.png
http://i.imgur.com/ipufbiY.jpg

If they ever decide to go over the current races I'd love if they added "wild" options to the races we have available. More cat Mi'qote (like FFXI), Au Ra more beast than currently, Highlander who didn't learn about shaving their eyebrows.. you know the real wild stuff. :P

i'm only okay with viera if they add a plethora of judge magister armors as well. fair trade off IMO.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Wonder how many are against it, that'd be an interesting number to know - if it's highly contentious or not. Is your concern the feet? I imagine ears might be a pain similar to the horns for the devs, but probably do able - might get a few derpy helmets though ahaha.

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Probably the same amount who do want Viera, with the rest (majority) either not caring or aware of the Viera threads. I just genuinely don't like the Viera (and this is mostly the Au Ra's fault. If the Au Ra actually retained their more 'beastlike/dragon' design, then I would not care if Viera were added or not), especially as they don't really add anything new to the game :/

A Miqo'te + Elezen hybrid would probably be what SE will give those who want 'Viera.'

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Originally Posted by Nestama

A Miqo'te + Elezen hybrid would probably be what SE will give those who want 'Viera.'

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Originally when I saw the Viera thread (long ago) I thought they should just add another clan to Miqo'te, Taller bigger ears - since that's what I felt Viera would be simply. Miqo'te plus big ears and height. Also didn't find "bunny girl" that compelling of an idea, just because playboy/maid bunny sort of thing lol, but eh it's only a personal perspective and a few people revealed they actually quite liked their lore for Ivalice and such, far more complex to them than just showgirl for a club (which is about what I see, why I was never really excited for it).

Of course I know the game isn't just for me, so that's where my comment on consistency of desire came from (admitting the fan desire for it) - even if it's not mine. However, it would be prudent of SE to examine the dislike of something as well, not sure if its equal like to dislike but that'd be a note worthy stat to absorb~ Maybe they can do another poll, I always liked reading those!

Completely understand the desire for something special though, the beastlike desire - I thought I'd get it with Au Ra but definitely not the case when released. They're very much a human cosplaying sort of feeling, which isn't bad for everyone (I've read many like them as is).

In the end though it looks like maybe a new race in like another year and half or more, since no new race this expansion (baring some "JK, we did add a new one!!").

Not that I am for Viera, merely personal tastes mind you, but as I've now witnessed that they couldn't even leave the iconic attire of RDM alone and felt the need to make it poofy and frilly for females, I sense there is no further desire to go against the grain of making a female variant of a race not cute. I highly doubt one would see the older, mature forms of Viera and instead have some moe mutation. I think this is why we won't see further races for a time. They've seen the demographics for anything not cute be covered and cuteness capacity is reaching critical mass with three (possibly four) races fitting that mold.

Taller, browner Miqo'te with rabbit ears and bigger tits. Geez whiz.

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Originally Posted by Domeric

i'm only okay with viera if they add a plethora of judge magister armors as well. fair trade off IMO.

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Sounds fair to me. ;^)

You have my support OP :)

I found another viera pic with males
http://orig04.deviantart.net/a18b/f/...r_by_lelia.jpg
So if a viera race ever becomes a thing in ffxiv, I really hope they will include males too. I'm not really a fan of gender lock.

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Originally Posted by Senn

I found another viera pic with males
http://orig04.deviantart.net/a18b/f/...r_by_lelia.jpg
So if a viera race ever becomes a thing in ffxiv, I really hope they will include males too. I'm not really a fan of gender lock.

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Is this just fanart or from SE itself? I doubt it's from SE since... Until now they never make male viera.

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Originally Posted by Eul

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Oh no, that's just fanart I found. There isn't a lot of fanart of male vieras, but I found this one and wanted to share it.
They did make a male viera concept art for ffxiv which is in my initial post, and I like the appearance of the tall and short ones.

I agree with this idea, I like the tall ones best. But...
(I don't know if this has been mentioned or not..I didn't want to try reading through every single post made here)

The Viera race originally was strickly a female only race, no males, in FF lore. Not saying YP couldn't add males to it, wouldn't quite fit..but XIV has it's own lore too..but if they are wanting to stick close to the original Viera lore it'd be fitting (IMO) to do Females: Viera and Males: Ronso (or something).

Either way, +1 here.

Huh? While I'm indifferent to Viera's inclusion myself, I just wanted to pop in to say this. Male Vieras very much do exist in FF lore. They just live independent to females of the race and the female settlements are focused on IIRC.

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Originally Posted by CherryCola

Huh? While I'm indifferent to Viera's inclusion myself, I just wanted to pop in to say this. Male Vieras very much do exist in FF lore. They just live independent to females of the race and the female settlements are focused on IIRC.

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Were they in tactics or something? They werent in XII. O.o

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Originally Posted by xJimmehx

Were they in tactics or something? They werent in XII. O.o

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I played FFXII and Tactics A2 and never see any male viera.

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Originally Posted by xJimmehx

Were they in tactics or something? They werent in XII. O.o

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Viera do exist even in XII, but they are even MORE isolated then FFXI Mithra males. They live in their own seperate village and only meet when needed from either side.

As well a sub-race known as Feol Viera exist in atleast XII Revenant Wings. With some tweaking they could easily be the second clan if SE ever does decide to add Viera to XIV.

I'm all for viera but I'd want them to be as close as posable to there models from ff12 not the stupid lala bunny's there not viera that's a potato with a cotten taIL and ears

Yes, male viera do exist in ffxii. In the lore at least. You don't actually SEE them in the game, but they're there.

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Originally Posted by RoseOfTheRaven

I agree with this idea, I like the tall ones best. But...
(I don't know if this has been mentioned or not..I didn't want to try reading through every single post made here)

The Viera race originally was strickly a female only race, no males, in FF lore. Not saying YP couldn't add males to it, wouldn't quite fit..but XIV has it's own lore too..but if they are wanting to stick close to the original Viera lore it'd be fitting (IMO) to do Females: Viera and Males: Ronso (or something).

Either way, +1 here.

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Mithra were female-only. They added males, changed the name to Mi'qote, and there we go. Galka were male-only. Now we have Roegadyn females. Viera, if added, will not be called Viera, but will have a new name, males added, and an entirely new set of lore describing their history in this game.

Do not expect any race from another Final Fantasy to make it into this one completely unchanged. This is not Final Fantasy XII. This is Final Fantasy XIV. Anything borrowed from other Final Fantasy games will be given a makeover to give it its own identity in this game.

(And, as others have noted, even in the Ivalice setting of FFXII, Viera DO have males - they simply do not show up in any of the games, just in the lore.)

I'd welcome Viera, but I'd want a reverse of the Au Ra.

Females being tall hulking monster-faced warriors.
Males being small, adorable, demure gentlemen.

You mean..you guys want literaly a miquote with bunny ears?


LOL.
More customization for current races are much more important...Im tired of seeing the same faces over and over again.

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Originally Posted by Neiker

You mean..you guys want literaly a miquote with bunny ears?

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No, we want Viera. They'd be tall, slender, hopefully not cutesy, and nothing like a miqo'te. A Viera is more like an Elezen.

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Originally Posted by Keydah

No, we want Viera. They'd be tall, slender, hopefully not cutesy, and nothing like a miqo'te. A Viera is more like an Elezen.

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Create elezen with brown skin..Put bunny ears cosmetics on it



Done.

I think we've got enough super tall races right now. Elezen, Roaegadyn, and Male Au Ra. Like I said before, I won't mind if the females are tall and bestial looking, so long as the males aren't.

The Elezen and Au Ra are already tall and slender (except female au ra, which are just tiny). Does the game really need yet another slender and tall race?

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Does the game really need yet another slender and tall race?

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Yeah, this is what I am wondering.

Lalafell is the only race we have that is short stature. Even though I like Viera okay I don't think it would be the best choice right now since Lalafell is the only small race we have currently. We could use another shorty race of a different style.

The vast majority of female characters I see are either lalafell or miqo'te/Au Ra. I don't see many Elezen ladies (not that I'm complaining /hater), and very few Roegadames, and Viera is a much beloved race who a lot of people would love to play as. I feel that it would result in seeing more than just tall dudes if they were added, and they could look more interesting than just "Elezen with bunny ears."

I wouldn't complain about another tiny race (tbh I'd prefer they add Viera with one subrace full size and the other subrace the tiny more beast-like bunny concept art, but that would be a lot of work...) but I would never play it, and I'm tired of being a tiny waifu, so I want Viera and I think they'd be a welcome addition to the game over a beast race or something that would severely limit how many armor sets we'd get per patch.

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Originally Posted by Neiker

More customization for current races are much more important...Im tired of seeing the same faces over and over again.

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"-We need to expand customization.
*I agree, but adding viera does not mean we also cannot expand current character customization. Why not both?"

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Originally Posted by Neiker

Create elezen with brown skin..Put bunny ears cosmetics on it

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"-They are hyur's (or insert whatever race lul) with fake cloth-textured rabbit ears from the gold saucer.
*This argument has been debated several times already and always falls flat."

lul

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Originally Posted by Lunaxia

...Roes are... uhm...

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We're what you say....yeah thought so...

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Originally Posted by Miste

Yeah, this is what I am wondering.

Lalafell is the only race we have that is short stature. Even though I like Viera okay I don't think it would be the best choice right now since Lalafell is the only small race we have currently. We could use another shorty race of a different style.

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A 'Middle Earth' or 'Dragon Age' kind of dwarf would work. Short, but not a popoto.