Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

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Setting your Duty Finder to JP only doesn’t guarantee you won’t get players that won’t mass pull.

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nah its not a 100% yes, but its definitely get me more into "casual friendly" pug where the group dont mind if someone/tank doing normal pull.

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arent healers getting borderline instant queues right now? why not go to the bathroom before you queue?

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nature call can be sudden, the calling could happen in the middle of run lol

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I'm gone for maybe like 40 seconds or so

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that was fast, my longest wait is 9 minutes or so, the tank guy got a call or something. stuff like urgent pickup at the store near his house or something. its JP so google translate can only do so much, anyway i was the only "foreigner" in the party and the other 2 seems dont mind about it so i just tag along, i can always alt tab and watch youtube or something after all

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Originally Posted by FFgame

If you pulled that crap with me I would have afked right after you came back. For a long time.

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Okay.

/10char

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Originally Posted by gumas

nah its not a 100% yes, but its definitely get me more into "casual friendly" pug where the group dont mind if someone/tank doing normal pull.



nature call can be sudden, the calling could happen in the middle of run lol

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having to go midrun is a lot more understandable than needing to go at the start when you know you have fast queues (unless youre a DPS, since their queues tend to be longer, but even then i havent waited more than like 7 as a smn).

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Originally Posted by gumas

nah its not a 100% yes, but its definitely get me more into "casual friendly" pug where the group dont mind if someone/tank doing normal pull.

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You've basicly described 80% + of my experience running Roullete and I'm only qued as english...I'm thinking you're just having the misfortune of being in with the people who pull this rather than the people who actually let you vote on it. about 9 times out of 10 if I don't masspull, no one whines. dungeon finishes around the same casual rate and no one got to have a heart attack.

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Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty

No. Healer should get good and actually use the tools available to them. All healers can do big pulls.

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Sweetie I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you're going to be seriously disappointed in the vast VAST array of universal forces that will align against you in Duty Finder as a Tank. To the point that you will contemplate sacrificing KFC to RNGjus to get a group that A. The dps knows to AoE and thier rotations and move out of AoE (except Gulg I can understand the floor brightness and the AoE telegraphs DO NOT MESH Well together so some accidents will happen.) and B. a Healer that doesnt Spam Physik Benefic or Cure if not one then settling for the other and almost crying tears of joy when you get a group with both.

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Originally Posted by Noitems

Was getting WHM up to 80 and I head into Mt. Gulg to gain some exp.

I had to use the bathroom very quickly so when the light party text showed up in the middle I quickly wrote "o/ brb rq bio" which gets responded with other "o/". I'm gone for maybe like 40 seconds or so. I get back and find the tank and one of the dps dead, while another was going to die. The tank goes "????????????????????" and I politely say "Do you even read your chatlog?" and they respond with "Ok...ok...ok".

If you're worried about getting this done as quickly as possible I'll gladly head in front of you swiftcasting holy for stun waiting for your sorry butt. Tanks both new and old I cannot stress enough look at your maps to make sure you know where everyone is. If your healer is actually moving I'd continue with your pull but if you still see them standing in the spawn zone you may want to wait unless you're ready to die.

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or you know read the effin chatlog. Three seconds of effort on someone SAVES DEATH BY MONSTER!!!!

Ran the final ShB story dungeon in Expert last night with an FC member, and as we started with the first pull one of the other two players said something along the lines of "Check this guy out, thinks he's so cool with his sunglasses" in reference to my character. Nothing bad happened, it just made me laugh was all, though I didn't get a chance to respond since I needed to focus on playing rather than typing at the time.

I used to appreciate being able to tell who wasn't pulling their weight based on not seeing certain buffs.
NINs without Huton, DRGs without Heavy Thrust, BRDs without Straight Shot/Songs, etc.

I thought my ability to criticize based on peoples' buffs had all gone away, until last night... I had... an AST that didn't use any cards... in the Lv67 dungeon.

The run itself was... fine, so I only made one comment during the second boss ("So, is AST any fun if you basically never use any cards?"), which prompted them to cast a SINGLE CARD ON THE TANK ONCE, but come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

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Originally Posted by gumas

iam so glad there is language setting on Duty option so i can set to JP only. seems like majority of you NA really love doing big pulls and having a policy anything not to your liking = kick/abandon. most JP (or asia i guess) out of 10 DG run only twice the tank doing big pulls, even that one out of two is fail because healer cant keep up so we just doing the usual pull and nobody say anything.

well okay they said something but in JP and most of the words that i get from google translate is something like "dont mind"

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What I am getting from this is...

Out of the 10 Dungeons you ran the groups were slow, and of the two groups that tried to be fast one failed at it. Is this some how a defense AGAINST large pulls?

Also, if you are a DPS main I'm not sure why you have any reason to complain or have any issue with massive pulls. Otherwise, I have met few players who are demanding about doing large pulls and then rude when you explain why you are uncomfortable with it if you are.

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Originally Posted by Mavrias

arent healers getting borderline instant queues right now? why not go to the bathroom before you queue?

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Originally Posted by FFgame

If you pulled that crap with me I would have afked right after you came back. For a long time.

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Wtf is wrong with you people?

Did the Twinning today. Tank insisted that the first boss was a cake walk and the final one was a pain. Naturally we wiped to the first boss and steamrolled the final.

Incidentally, has anyone written down the data logs found in the dungeon? I've yet to see a group that will actually let me read them before running off and getting pissy about me lagging behind.

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Originally Posted by Rivxkobe

What I am getting from this is...


Wtf is wrong with you people?

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idk. Whats wrong with you that a simple question sets you off so much?

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Did the Twinning today. Tank insisted that the first boss was a cake walk and the final one was a pain. Naturally we wiped to the first boss and steamrolled the final.

Incidentally, has anyone written down the data logs found in the dungeon? I've yet to see a group that will actually let me read them before running off and getting pissy about me lagging behind.

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I just screenshot these and read them after. So far no one has been bothered by me aproaching them.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Incidentally, has anyone written down the data logs found in the dungeon? I've yet to see a group that will actually let me read them before running off and getting pissy about me lagging behind.

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Not mine, but someone posted the logs here; original source is from Reddit, here.

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Originally Posted by Noitems

Was getting WHM up to 80 and I head into Mt. Gulg to gain some exp.

I had to use the bathroom very quickly so when the light party text showed up in the middle I quickly wrote "o/ brb rq bio" which gets responded with other "o/". I'm gone for maybe like 40 seconds or so. I get back and find the tank and one of the dps dead, while another was going to die. The tank goes "????????????????????" and I politely say "Do you even read your chatlog?" and they respond with "Ok...ok...ok".

If you're worried about getting this done as quickly as possible I'll gladly head in front of you swiftcasting holy for stun waiting for your sorry butt. Tanks both new and old I cannot stress enough look at your maps to make sure you know where everyone is. If your healer is actually moving I'd continue with your pull but if you still see them standing in the spawn zone you may want to wait unless you're ready to die.

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Don't queue unless you're ready to do the dungeon. There's nothing more annoying than getting stuck with an inconsiderate jerk who immediately forces everyone to stand around the wait the second they get in.

One thing I've taken to doing this expansion is /return'ing once I get the last boss' loot, so I can read through datalogs and take screenshots leisurely. Also, pick up chests that people skipped, but don't tell them. :)

Not my story... but what is with healers this exca? I was monking it as normal and this poor tank. They instantly said they were new and willing to learn if they made any mistakes. They were a breaker. He most likely wanted to try the new class... not a felony or anything right? PFFT I watched after the first pull and they wipe this healer go stupid on the poor guy. M being the only one alive step up and tell the healer to chill the fuck out. They said they are new at tanking.. instead of being a bitch why don't you offer some advice? Healer instantly leaves the dungeon. Funny enough we get a new healer and big pulls and no deaths after that. Kindof funny. Like what is the deal with you guys? Stop being satly if the person is NEW, I get it if it's some try hard who is making mistakes on purpose... but new people? It's healers like THAT that make me happy I'm a MONK. Cause holy hell I NEVER want to tank for salty people like THAT EVER.

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Originally Posted by Seraph522

Not mine, but someone posted the logs here; original source is from Reddit, here.

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Awesome, thanks!

I did leveling roulette today and i got that level 69-70 dungeon, and at first i'm like "oh okay, haven't been here in a while, should be neat"... And, well.... it was something.

Tank was a GNB that i'm almost certain was on drugs because he wouldn't stop running around back and forth after pulling mobs. I'm pretty sure the monk wanted to punch him. Like he was just pulling mobs, running forward about 3-4 feet, then running back, and then doing so again with a different direction. I literally cannot fathom why someone would do this, but he wasn't really taking extra damage and he wasn't losing aggro so i just shrugged it off.

When we got to the first boss i got really confused because he stopped doing...whatever it was he was trying to do with the running around. He moved the boss around responsibly and followed mechanics, but after we were done he was back to zig zagging all over the map with the mobs. He wasn't trying to dodge AoEs with his erratic movements either because i was repeatedly interrupting most of them with holy, he was just super zippy for some reason.

At first i thought it was just me lagging, as Coeurl was going through some stuff earlier today, but no.

After that dungeon i walked away with all three commendations and question marks for eyes.

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Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty

Don't queue unless you're ready to do the dungeon. There's nothing more annoying than getting stuck with an inconsiderate jerk who immediately forces everyone to stand around the wait the second they get in.

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Or you know the situation could have changed anywhere within the time one queued up, queue popped, everyone hit ok on the queue pop, dungeon finally loads, and then last but not least the dungeon gate finally drops. As it does become a little hard to unqueue after a certain point in all of that. Most are pretty reasonable and exit queue if something comes up early enough to do so, and most are also considerate enough to also realize life happens and those waits are often not intentional.

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Originally Posted by Raldo

BRDs without Straight Shot/Songs, etc.

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Just fyi, looking for straight shot buffs isn't really going to do anything anymore. It's just a 20% rng damage bonus that goes away after you use it. Seems to auto pop with barrage, but nothing persistant.

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Originally Posted by FantasyFan06

when I first saw the help menu topic for limit break and read that it was shared across the party I figured I had no use for it and didn't want to be the player that accidentally wasted it with a wrong button press. So I just didn't put it on my hotbar

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That is awesome. Lol! As a a Bard/MCH I totally relate. Our LB is only useful in emergencies and for large groups of baddies all lined up in a nice row. It's always better to leave the LB for the melee in a boss fight unless the DRG is busy tanking the floor. I have my LB on a hotbar that doesn't change when I switch classes, so it's there whether I need it or not.

^ try not to put their name if you can. i think its against forum rules or something, i forgot.

My friend and I decided to try the new dungeons together, as our BLM and BRD. We have been playing this game since the Alpha and Beta testing, so we know our characters and what we should do.

So once we load to the new dungeon, we told the other party that we are new to this dungeon and we will try our best and the healer asks the tank to pull small pulls. The dude goes off and gets big pulls and he dies and he bad mouths the healer that he needs to heal better.

Then after that exchange things are alright up to the last boss. We fight and win and right at the end, the dude starts telling us that our DPS is low and that it's sad that he has to DPS for us and that gives us our numbers. He basically use Parser on us and tells us we are bad DPS and bad mouths us. I just told him that it's sad to for us to have a shit tank like him that doesn't know what he's doing half the time and left the party.

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Originally Posted by Black_Rose2012

My friend and I decided to try the new dungeons together, as our BLM and BRD. We have been playing this game since the Alpha and Beta testing, so we know our characters and what we should do.

So once we load to the new dungeon, we told the other party that we are new to this dungeon and we will try our best and the healer asks the tank to pull small pulls. The dude goes off and gets big pulls and he dies and he bad mouths the healer that he needs to heal better.

Then after that exchange things are alright up to the last boss. We fight and win and right at the end, the dude starts telling us that our DPS is low and that it's sad that he has to DPS for us and that gives us our numbers. He basically use Parser on us and tells us we are bad DPS and bad mouths us. I just told him that it's sad to for us to have a shit tank like him that doesn't know what he's doing half the time and left the party.

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While I normally wouldn't say parsing is worth being reported, this is an instance where it is fully justified. So I hope you did.

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Originally Posted by Black_Rose2012

My friend and I decided to try the new dungeons together, as our BLM and BRD. We have been playing this game since the Alpha and Beta testing, so we know our characters and what we should do.

So once we load to the new dungeon, we told the other party that we are new to this dungeon and we will try our best and the healer asks the tank to pull small pulls. The dude goes off and gets big pulls and he dies and he bad mouths the healer that he needs to heal better.

Then after that exchange things are alright up to the last boss. We fight and win and right at the end, the dude starts telling us that our DPS is low and that it's sad that he has to DPS for us and that gives us our numbers. He basically use Parser on us and tells us we are bad DPS and bad mouths us. I just told him that it's sad to for us to have a shit tank like him that doesn't know what he's doing half the time and left the party.

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report the dude. parsers have a strict don't ask don't tell policy. if he brought up your scores, he's screwed.

Tanks, if you have a scholar with you, please at least wait for an adlo before sprinting off to do wall to wall pulls.

I was doing 50-70 roulette solo yesterday as a BLM and got thrown into a level 50 dungeon. The tank was pulling big and the healer was a 51 sprout. There was a few near death pulls and the tank says something along the lines of, "Ah I wish I had more cooldowns to pop. I feel like I have almost nothing at this level."

I watched their cooldowns for the next pull and suggested that they pop Arm's Length. They must have thought I was joking because they said, "Why would I do that?" and even the other DPS added, "Nothing in this dungeon has a knockback." I explained that Arm's Length has a slow on it, making it fairly useful on trash pulls even if you don't benefit from the knockback prevention. The tank decided to humor me and tried it out in their next pull, after the slow applied they said, "Huh. TIL. Thanks."

It's definitely not the most amazing cooldown, but it does work...and it's always good to feel like you have another cooldown in your kit. I walked away from that dungeon with all 3 commendations and felt pretty good about helping out.

Don't worry, though, it was all very short-lived. Immediately after, I queued for trials and got Zurvan. MT cleaved everyone to death within the first couple of seconds of the fight. The second pull we decided to move to the side since he wasn't going to. After the platform was gone and we fell below, he spun the boss. Literally running circles around the boss, making him spin constantly, causing another wipe. 5min had passed by that point so we booted the tank and the OT, both the healers, and most of the DPS left shortly after. Queued again and got Zurvan...again. This new tank also cleaved us on the platform, but no spinning and we didn't wipe this time at least.

Ran duty roulette and got Halitali last night. Okay, could be worse. Right off the bat I notice that the tank is losing aggro to the MCH and WHM. They're a GNB so I think maybe they're new to tanking. Nope, they're a level 60 PLD.

Proceed through the dungeon. A bomb AoE kills them because that's what happens when they stand in an AoE.

The healer gets them up. They walk past a chain winch and then get mad at me for yanking it, since obviously we can't handle 6 whole enemies when synced to 23 (despite the fact that we're melting them). I just-- didn't want to backtrack tbh.

Proceeds to complain when we miss the next winch. Didn't attack fire sprites at the final boss to kick his vulnerability and went to all the torches instead.

Depressing.

Well. I just got out of an interesting Alliance Roulette. Well, the roulette itself wasn't interesting - it was just Syrcus Tower - but what happened in the instance was pretty interesting.

Apparently, there was a DNC in one of the alliances that was standing AFK at the entrances to the first couple of trash packs/bosses, and someone in my Alliance called them out for being AFK as we were coming up to the second boss (Glasya). The person lost their mind in alliance chat over it, because several others started to call them out for being AFK as well. I piped up during the trash pull before Amon saying that I personally don't like the idea of carrying dead weight but that was just my personal opinion. I didn't say much else through the rest of the run despite the others continuing to bicker in alliance chat - only other things I said were "Calling you out for being AFK isn't bullying you" and, when the person replied with "I wasn't AFK", I simply said, "Then why not just press buttons?".

Afterwards, I left the instance kind of rolling my eyes at what just happened (I've noticed a lot of people just AFKing in the level 50 24-mans, and despite it being level 50 content, it still annoys me), and I received a lovely message from this individual, who happened to be on my server. The first line is redacted for blatant profanity.

https://i.imgur.com/yH3LeSG.png

This is honestly the first time I've ever had someone get this upset over things. And I wasn't even the person hounding them the most - I said maybe 3 or 4 lines in total during the rest of the raid, and instead just watched the chat explode. The friend list spam was annoying as heck, though. I wasn't even going to bother blacklisting because it takes quite a bit to prompt me to blacklist/report someone, but when you're that insistent, it leaves me no choice, really. I don't have time for this kind of nonsense.

Wonder if they sent lovely little messages like this to everyone who called them out. Well, at least it was amusing, to say the least.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

Wonder if they sent lovely little messages like this to everyone who called them out. Well, at least it was amusing, to say the least.

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Just...wow I can't believe people are that petty these days I'm honestly shocked the same thing sorta happened to me but was in a trial roulette and we got Susano, I had a healer who kept rescuing my friend into stuff to kill him but he couldn't (healer kept getting hit by things while resucing and dying lol). We called em out on it and afterwards and he messaged me and my friend calling us trash, I wish I kept the logs but I dealt with bad groups all day I didn't feel like saving what he said to say, most of it was swearing and saying that he cleared Ultimate Ultima but I didn't care.

He even went to the FC house to yell at us but we just blacklisted him and then went into a duty, bottom line is if someone is attacking you online and even going so far as to trying to get you on Discord or going to your sever and TPing to your house there's some serious issues with them. Hopefully your experiences get better Hyomin I really do feel for ya.

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Originally Posted by Awful

Just...wow I can't believe people are that petty these days I'm honestly shocked the same thing sorta happened to me but was in a trial roulette and we got Susano, I had a healer who kept rescuing my friend into stuff to kill him but he couldn't (healer kept getting hit by things while resucing and dying lol). We called em out on it and afterwards and he messaged me and my friend calling us trash, I wish I kept the logs but I dealt with bad groups all day I didn't feel like saving what he said to say, most of it was swearing and saying that he cleared Ultimate Ultima but I didn't care.

He even went to the FC house to yell at us but we just blacklisted him and then went into a duty, bottom line is if someone is attacking you online and even going so far as to trying to get you on Discord or going to your sever and TPing to your house there's some serious issues with them. Hopefully your experiences get better Hyomin I really do feel for ya.

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Wow. Some people seriously have no life. To hop to another server and teleport to your estate just to complain at you some more...I can’t help but laugh at how pathetic that is, to be honest.

I had a great Ala Mhigo run for roulette. Loaded in, healer was watching cut scene and I looked at them, they had 415 gear and there was no message. So I pulled everything to the gate and popped Hollowed. The DPS were a DNC and SAM and everything melted. I still had like 2 seconds left of Hollowed. The DNC was having a blast. I pulled as big as I could except for after the first boss, only pulled the two gorillas, still have nightmares about that. Then I pulled all the dogs up to the cannon. The DNC was disappointed we didn't have LB. for her to burn everything. I pulled everything up to the second laser wall and tried to line them up for her. DNC was yelling, "I love big pulls!"

I have no idea what I'm doing. I just copy what I see good PLDs do when I'm healing. And runs like that make me feel good.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

Yikes!

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Did you report that? That is like stalking/harassment all wrapped in one!

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

creepy guy harassing

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you took that far better than i would have done bravo.

Okay, I get that Prae is boring but could you... You know, actually participate when you get it? We just kicked a BLM because no only did they stop following the party, they actively didn't even help in battles even when called out. Like come on, we get it's long and boring, but if you're going to queue at least put in some effort. Even if it's just hitting auto-attacks.

So, with the server split, the Red Mage in my static decided to make an alt on Crystal because he has a group of friends on Aether. He of course boosted the alt, and has been progressing through the MSQ on his sprout Red Mage. It's been mostly uneventful, until he got to the level 79 trial. The lovely group of people he had decided that, because he was a sprout, he must be skipping the story and not paying attention to anything going on. They decided to let him die by intentionally making him eat the stack marker solo, and have him watch the entire fight while on the floor.

They effectively carried him because they were upset he had a sprout. I'm still appalled about this. I guess people that forgot that some players might want to have alts for whatever reason.

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Originally Posted by Mikkairi

So, with the server split, the Red Mage in my static decided to make an alt on Crystal because he has a group of friends on Aether. He of course boosted the alt, and has been progressing through the MSQ on his sprout Red Mage. It's been mostly uneventful, until he got to the level 79 trial. The lovely group of people he had decided that, because he was a sprout, he must be skipping the story and not paying attention to anything going on. They decided to let him die by intentionally making him eat the stack marker solo, and have him watch the entire fight while on the floor.

They effectively carried him because they were upset he had a sprout. I'm still appalled about this. I guess people that forgot that some players might want to have alts for whatever reason.

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Unless they explicitly said "you can stay on the floor, you filthy-booster", there seems to be a lot of assumptions going around here. It could have been as simple as people missing the marker (I had this happen to me just yesterday at the end of the 75 dungeon) and healers not being able to raise due to chaos / higher priority heals needed elsewhere. These fights are still new, and not everyone is going to be handling every mechanic flawlessly by a long-shot.

If they had made a comment about him boosting, he could have simply replied that it's an alt char.

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Originally Posted by Black_Rose2012

and the healer asks the tank to pull small pulls.

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That's when tank should've taken the penalty and bounced the eff out.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Unless they explicitly said "you can stay on the floor, you filthy-booster", there seems to be a lot of assumptions going around here. It could have been as simple as people missing the marker (I had this happen to me just yesterday at the end of the 75 dungeon) and healers not being able to raise due to chaos / higher priority heals needed elsewhere. These fights are still new, and not everyone is going to be handling every mechanic flawlessly by a long-shot.

If they had made a comment about him boosting, he could have simply replied that it's an alt char.

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They had made comments about it towards him, so there were no assumptions. I will say I don't know why he didn't say he was an alt, though (didn't care to ask). Regardless, it's pretty ridiculous behavior.

To add a little more clarity, he remained dead from 75% to 0%. There's no excuse to not raise there.

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Originally Posted by Mikkairi

They had made comments about it towards him, so there were no assumptions. I will say I don't know why he didn't say he was an alt, though (didn't care to ask). Regardless, it's pretty ridiculous behavior.

To add a little more clarity, he remained dead from 75% to 0%. There's no excuse to not raise there.

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Sure there is. It depends om whether the party was struggling or not.