About the looks of the new raid gear

I love how everyone is bitching over the look of the crazy story mode gear... When we don't even have the Sav mode gear yet, for all we know it look very diff... How about you wait and see hat the full endgame sets look like befor you get all jump about some crazy ass gear you will not be Useing in 2weeks.

If you don't like it.. Don't use it.. The end!

@Hazuki87: Maybe because most of us dont raid thus wont get the savage gear?

Also they could have put this set in Kugane castle which would still be a reference to FFV but makes more sense at the same time? They could have used other FFV outfits and changed it so it would fit the raid better.

I wish we could get sets similar in style to FFV, since thats what the Deltascape enemies so far are based on..

http://img12.deviantart.net/b2d0/i/2...93-d9bakyv.png

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Originally Posted by Roda

We fought these things in an allagan creation, thus we got gear of allagan design... ._.

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That still doesn't refute the point that people expect Omega gear when the pattern has always been the final tier, it's like people don't even bother reading. And it's the Interdimensional Rift, we could get anything and everything, not JUST Omega gear pieces. This time we happened to get Genji armour, maybe next we'll get armor based off FFX? Maybe we'll get armor based off FFXII? Who knows, it's the Rift, it's got portals to literally everything, real and unreal.

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

People like you are why these forums have such a toxic reputation.

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I agree with Shippuu, however, that the forums only make up something like 10% of the total playerbase.

Also, I could show you so many more negative things on these forums than what Shippuu said, lol.

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Originally Posted by Shippuu

Really? So how did these
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/m...er_reward1.jpg

Match Labyrinth of the Ancients again?

Oh that's right, they matched in exactly the same way the current gear matches Deltascape.

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Most of that gear is based on classic FF characters and armor, so I'd say it fits very well for a raid that's a huge throwback to a classic FF game.

This gear was designed to look the way it does because a lot of people WERE asking for a SAM armor inspired set. I think people are going to fall into 2 general categories: those who love it and those who hate it. If you're of the latter camp, then this is what the glamour system is for.

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Originally Posted by RhaegarFFXIFenrir

This gear was designed to look the way it does because a lot of people WERE asking for a SAM armor inspired set. I think people are going to fall into 2 general categories: those who love it and those who hate it. If you're of the latter camp, then this is what the glamour system is for.

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You can have Samurai inspired armor that actually looks good too. I'm fine with the idea behind it, but they just overdid the bulkiness of pretty much everything.

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Originally Posted by DDkiki

And FFV is not that popular and important, ive heard a lot from FFs and this armor is new to me, its not iconic by any means.

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FFV is HUGELY popular and important in Japan. It's basically the reason we have the Job System we do in many of the games. Yeah, FF3 invented it but FF5 perfected it. There are also references to Final Fantasy V all over FFXIV. Hell - Krile is literally named after one of the main characters from Final Fantasy V.

The Genji Armor is the strongest armor in FFV, it is also the single most ICONIC armor from that game because it has been used in almost every single game since then in some form - usually represented by the Genji Gloves.

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Originally Posted by ColorOfSakura

FFV is HUGELY popular and important in Japan. It's basically the reason we have the Job System we do in many of the games. Yeah, FF3 invented it but FF5 perfected it. There are also references to Final Fantasy V all over FFXIV. Hell - Krile is literally named after one of the main characters from Final Fantasy V.

The Genji Armor is the strongest armor in FFV, it is also the single most ICONIC armor from that game because it has been used in almost every single game since then in some form - usually represented by the Genji Gloves.

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Genji Armor isn't even originally from FFV, and besides that the FF games have never made a huge deal about equipment anyway outside of weapons like Excalibur and Ultima. I don't think anyone's going to lose their mind over their favorite armor set from FFII making it into the game, especially when none of the gear has a canonical design anyway, they're just stats on a menu.

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Originally Posted by ItaruKarin

You can have Samurai inspired armor that actually looks good too. I'm fine with the idea behind it, but they just overdid the bulkiness of pretty much everything.

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I personally am going to have to disagree. I love bulky armour, but only when it comes to tanks. But in the case of healers and casters, specifically, I didn't feel it was that bulky?

it's definitely not you. As a Samurai, these armors are awesome

Me as a white mage? I kind of look silly in it

I feel bad for all monks having to share gear with samurai.

They will obviously focus on samurai design.

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Originally Posted by Ameela

Most of that gear is based on classic FF characters and armor, so I'd say it fits very well for a raid that's a huge throwback to a classic FF game.

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That's the point.

It's the same for this current one, which is a throwback to Final Fantasy 5.

https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...20120825080844

I feel like this gear should have dropped in Doma and something else shown up here that was more thematic.

To be honest, in my opinion...aside of the new Artifact Armor, all the new designs added with the Stormblood expansion have been awful.

Most people playing this game have no clue what armor was what in FFV. All they will see is ugly generic looking samurai armor.

I was pretty disappointed myself when I saw the Omega gear. And I AM playing Samurai. It might be fitting for the job, but its by far the ugliest gear I've seen in this game. And every job looks like Samurai gear, which I mean.. okay fine, Doman themes abound in Stormblood.. but its still ugly as snot.

I appreciate how different it is compared to other available sets (including the new dungeon/crafted sets). It doesn't fit my personal style, but I could at least consider ever using it for glamour, unlike Dreadwyrm or anything from Alexander. The bad coloring will be fixed when we get the dyable versions.

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Originally Posted by Shippuu

That's the point.

It's the same for this current one, which is a throwback to Final Fantasy 5.

https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net...20120825080844

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The appearance of the Warrior of Light and the Onion Knight are far more iconic than that of the Genji Armor, which has only made a visible appearance in a handful of concept art and no character in the entire series has ever been shown wearing it.
I'm a fairly big FF fan and I'll admit that if it wasn't for the name I wouldn't have even considered the fact that the sets are supposed to be Genji gear.

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Originally Posted by Ameela

The appearance of the Warrior of Light and the Onion Knight are far more iconic than that of the Genji Armor, which has only made a visible appearance in a handful of concept art and no character in the entire series has ever been shown wearing it.
I'm a fairly big FF fan and I'll admit that if it wasn't for the name I wouldn't have even considered the fact that the sets are supposed to be Genji gear.

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It's still a staple in the vast majority of Final Fantasy games, appearing in almost all of them, even spinoffs, sequels, and non FF titles such as Bravely Default. It absolutely has a place in FFXIV, and it being Raid gear is entirely fitting.

I dont even think the recolouring on the Savage version of this would help. On female toons it just looks plain wrong

https://i.imgflip.com/1s43kf.jpg

@Genaxx: But the gear looks the same too so not sure what the point is?

Also if they decided to make the samurai armor the throwback to FF5 (like we dont have enough of that already x)) they could have used it as the base model but made it more Omega like with the details. Throwing stuff from old FF games in this game and call it a day is not making this a good fanservice. Especially if it does not make sense with the style. And why do we even need such gear if the raid itself is already a huge fanservice?

I kind of like them to be honest.

You guys have bad taste... I love the tank and the samurai armor I am over weeaboo overdrive just looking at them!!!!!

Love them!!!!good job SE!!!

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Originally Posted by 347SPECTRE

I dont even think the recolouring on the Savage version of this would help. On female toons it just looks plain wrong

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It's look amazing on my miqote female what are you talking ?

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Originally Posted by 347SPECTRE

I dont even think the recolouring on the Savage version of this would help. On female toons it just looks plain wrong

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It's not my style, but it still looks good on my Au ra, whatta you sayin'?

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

It's not my style, but it still looks good on my Au ra, whatta you sayin'?

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It's my opinion and to me it balloons out way too much at the hips and those floating plates near the shins feel out of place.

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Originally Posted by Genaxx

https://i.imgflip.com/1s43kf.jpg

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Uh... what? All the gear look the same, they're all samurai armor. And in addition of looking the same, they look ugly and more like dungeon gear than raid gear.
I really hope savage will be more worth doing than getting this garbage. SE did a great job on the MSQ but feels like all the budget when in it and side quests, so they used the remains for the raid.

I hope they keep this armor, I love it (bar healer, and aiming headpieces). Haters gonna hate.

Because this thread is so long, I'm probably going to repeat something already said, but this armor is actually a reference to a recurring set of equipment from the series as a whole. While the set known as Genji equipment premiered in FFIII, it didn't get its unique aspects until FFV. Since then it has often boasted immunity to many status effects while offering powerful physical traits. The gloves in particular are known for often giving the ability to use two weapons at the same time.

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Originally Posted by MiniPrinny

Because this thread is so long, I'm probably going to repeat something already said, but this armor is actually a reference to a recurring set of equipment from the series as a whole. While the set known as Genji equipment premiered in FFIII, it didn't get its unique aspects until FFV. Since then it has often boasted immunity to many status effects while offering powerful physical traits. The gloves in particular are known for often giving the ability to use two weapons at the same time.

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Genji armor is fine for tank and maybe melee, not ranged or caster.

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Originally Posted by Arutan

Genji armor is fine for tank and maybe melee, not ranged or caster.

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I agree with this. I'm a Summoner...not a Samurai.

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Originally Posted by Arutan

Genji armor is fine for tank and maybe melee, not ranged or caster.

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Healers and casters have been asking for armor options for years now. Would you prefer more robes?

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Originally Posted by Arutan

Genji armor is fine for tank and maybe melee, not ranged or caster.

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I probably should have mentioned that the Genji armor was generally free to use by any Job, regardless of how stupid it sounds. In fact, a very powerful combination in many games is to give a healer a pair of Genji gloves and a pair of healing staffs so they can do the equivalent of Curaga for no MP, letting them use spells like Holy more often.

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

Healers and casters have been asking for armor options for years now. Would you prefer more robes?

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It's a robe with armor on it what are you saying. I do want less robe but this gear doesn't help.

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Originally Posted by DDkiki

Game need to make sense NOT only to FF fans or its the most stupid thing in the world. We didnt fight any asian themed bosses in the Omega, we are getting sets from OMEGA PARTS and Ironwork people are crafting it for you...and you get some samurai armor and also ugly as hell? What the hell, how does it fit theme if you are not blind ff fanboy? And FFV is not that popular and important, ive heard a lot from FFs and this armor is new to me, its not iconic by any means.

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i always feel FFV is FFV, FFXIV is FFXIV, even Omega originate from FFV, the Omega we have in FFXIV have clearly distinguish feature compare to FFV, and not to mention the raid environments
as someone from far east i do not see any thing feature to far east theme in FFXIV Omega raid, it might fit Doma Castle or Kugane Castle, but not Omega raid in FFXIV

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Originally Posted by missybee

I think the Omega equipment is pretty far from the best looking gear in the game, but to say that the appearance of raid gear has gotten worse over time is definitely subjective.

As I recall, fans had been asking about Genji armor being implemented in XIV, and now seems like a pretty good time to add it.

I'm not overly impressed with a lot of the SB gear, but that's what glamours are for, yeah?

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I actually love Alex gear, they look awesome

Genji gear can fit into SB with some non lazy way of implementation, we could have 24 ppl raid related to Doma and Kugane and those theme fit perfectly into

but Genji in Omega in FFXIV, just feel like lazy or fan service or probable combination of both, FFV have tons of outfit to choose from, and all we got are 3 slightly

different Samurai armour, it remind me Shadow tactics, Hayato the shinobi mock Mugen having too much armour for swift and lightly action, now look at what we got

The set looks fine, it is different. Just bad coloring...and hats...

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Originally Posted by Arutan

Genji armor is fine for tank and maybe melee, not ranged or caster.

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I don't really get this particular criticism about the armor. I think it's good to have variety in appearance options, so yes, there should be some tiers where casters and healers get fairly heavy-ish armors.

Is this tier set butt ugly, though? Yeah.