Double EXP periods. {Can I have it?}

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Originally Posted by ShivenCasull

These promotional bonuses don't all have to be EXP bonuses.

I'm not sure why people think this would be game breaking. It would increase traffic (buyers for my crafted items) on the weekends.

If a casual gets to 50, does a chocobo lose its wings?

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Let's use a bit of common sense shall we?

Fast Exp system + double the speed of fast exp + skyrocketing past all content and going straight to the end-game content that we know won't all be there at release and come in chunks through updates = ???

You do realize double+ exp events are generally for slower MMOs, right? You can level 1-50 in 1.0 in days, even sooner if you happen to land in a good linkshell and someone agrees to power level you, which is quite common btw.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Let's use a bit of common sense shall we?

Fast Exp system + double the speed of fast exp + skyrocketing past all content and going straight to the end-game content that we know won't all be there at release and come in chunks through updates = ???

You do realize double+ exp events are generally for slower MMOs, right? You can level 1-50 in 1.0 in days, even sooner if you happen to land in a good linkshell and someone agrees to power level you, which is quite common btw.

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Ignored the first line did we? I said I don't care if they're not exp bonuses.

You're also ignoring the fact that 2.0 will have slower leveling.

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Originally Posted by ShivenCasull

Ignored the first line did we? I said I don't care if they're not exp bonuses.

You're also ignoring the fact that 2.0 will have slower leveling.

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Nope didn't ignore the first line you said you don't see why it would be game breaking. Blowing past everything is exactly why even 1.0's setup is horribly done. Why should I bother with low-mid level gear or content when I'll be end-game no time flat? 2.0's leveling won't be slower, they already confirmed it will be basically the same speed.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Nope didn't ignore the first line you said you don't see why it would be game breaking. Blowing past everything is exactly why even 1.0's setup is horribly done. Why should I bother with low-mid level gear or content when I'll be end-game no time flat? 2.0's leveling won't be slower, they already confirmed it will be basically the same speed.

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I understand the fear of having no content @ 50... that would be a bigger problem then leveling too quickly.

Maybe it's just me but when you have the opportunity to level multiple jobs, the game need to be enjoyable enough to justify that replay value.

The reason why easier MMO's are so popular isn't because they're easy to get into... they're hard to put down.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

4Gamer Interview Translation
Translated the part from where the interview starts.
Source: http://www.4gamer.net/games/092/G009287/20120816021/

For completely new players who just started about how long would it take to understand the system in general
Y: The answer to that one will change depending on the definition of system in general. For myself I am thinking of level 15 as an ideal level for setting up a party and trying out a dungeon. If you don’t sidetrack to get to that point probably would take about 30 hours.

Was it planned to structure it so it takes 30 hours or did it end up that way after making the tutorial quests?
Y: We had 30 hours as a target when making. We are working on the amount of message or the time it requires to clear one content.

Why did you plan 30 hours?
Y: If the starting point is too fast it would make the later stages hard, also if you try to cram everything at once you can’t remember them. By learning the official you have to use them several times or you won't learn it, thinking of that it’s about 30 hours. If you play 2 hours a day it’s about 2 weeks timing. If you’re playing just for efficiency you could probably get through much faster (laugh)

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30 hours is a lot longer than it currently takes (even if that's not a straight EXP requirement)

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Nope didn't ignore the first line you said you don't see why it would be game breaking. Blowing past everything is exactly why even 1.0's setup is horribly done. Why should I bother with low-mid level gear or content when I'll be end-game no time flat? 2.0's leveling won't be slower, they already confirmed it will be basically the same speed.

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I think he meant (with his first line) that the concept of the event in general wouldn't necessarily be game breaking, in that we could have different types of events like...2x mobs or something, not that 2x exp weekends wouldn't be game breaking.

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Originally Posted by Kalsic

Leveling in this game is already way too fast. Double exp periods would be a joke.

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oh did you xp in 2.0 already? please tell how it is like

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Originally Posted by ShivenCasull

I understand the fear of having no content @ 50... that would be a bigger problem then leveling too quickly.

Maybe it's just me but when you have the opportunity to level multiple jobs, the game need to be enjoyable enough to justify that replay value.

The reason why easier MMO's are so popular isn't because they're easy to get into... they're hard to put down.



30 hours is a lot longer than it currently takes (even if that's not a straight EXP requirement)

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I think I should point out that by that interview, Yoshida means it would take about 30 hours to get to around level 15, not 50. so yeah, levelling is gonna be slower in 2.0

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...TROLLFACE2.jpg

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Originally Posted by Andrien

oh did you xp in 2.0 already?

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Why YES! I did. I'm from the future after all! Don't cross the street outside your house on September 23rd at 2:20PM eastern time... Trust me.
http://i.imgur.com/7V31j.png

I understand that leveling in 2.0 maybe slower, but looking at these results I doubt it.

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Originally Posted by Andrien

please tell how it is like

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it like how?

I'd settle for Atma of the Razed Ruins.

Oh wait, wrong game :(

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Originally Posted by Kalsic

Why YES! I did. I'm from the future after all! Don't cross the street outside your house on September 23rd at 2:20PM eastern time... Trust me.

I understand that leveling in 2.0 maybe slower, but looking at these results I doubt it.

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You should read the interview I linked from Yoshi's translated interview. It's more relevant than an old popular vote. :p

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Originally Posted by ShivenCasull

You should read the interview I linked from Yoshi's translated interview. It's more relevant than an old popular vote. :p

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From what I've seen Dev estimates are never true. Even so, 30 hours isn't very long when you take into account that this is a MMORPG and is meant to take time.

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Originally Posted by Kalsic

From what I've seen Dev estimates are never true. Even so, 30 hours isn't very long when you take into account that this is a MMORPG and is meant to take time.

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again, the 30 hours was for 1-15ish, not 1-50.

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Originally Posted by ShivenCasull

Not sure if anyone else mentioned this...

it would give SE an excuse to update the launcher page with news. It would also be incentive for people to check the website for "weekend events"

They don't even have to be double exp, since that seems to be a major sticking point for people... small weekly/bi-weekly events aren't a bad thing.

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I'd prefer more flavorful things. Aside from holidays, WoW had the Darkmoon Faire (think "ren faire meets creepy circus motif out of a tim burton movie"), which would come to town the first week of every month. The faire had some minigames, and once it got revamped also had dailies and long term goals for players who wanted to take part of them. Gear you could use for transmogrification costing an insane amount of tickets, ways to help people level professions and so on. There were benefits and if gave people something to do.

While I don't think XIV would benefit from a traveling faire/circus type of thing, the idea is solid. A regular event that you can look forward to with its own rewards and perks while giving you slight boosts to character progression if you're starting out. I'd use the Tantalus Theater Troupe as the base for such an event.

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Originally Posted by Kalsic

Why YES! I did. I'm from the future after all! Don't cross the street outside your house on September 23rd at 2:20PM eastern time... Trust me.

I understand that leveling in 2.0 maybe slower, but looking at these results I doubt it.


it like how?

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First of all, this just proves you're that 20% and that they'll take this result from the current game into consideration for tweaking 2.0 pace.

At this point you're trying to hard. Stop and save yourself from further embarrassment time traveler

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Originally Posted by Zhyrios

again, the 30 hours was for 1-15ish, not 1-50.

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30hrs to to complete the tutorial too right?

Wait!!!! Noob here, are we starting over in 2.0? It just took me a month to get 3 classes/jobs to 30+ in casual play time. If starting over would be the case then it's pointless to play now.

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Originally Posted by Nightdreamer

Wait!!!! Noob here, are we starting over in 2.0? It just took me a month to get 3 classes/jobs to 30+ in casual play time. If starting over would be the case then it's pointless to play now.

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Have to fear, you probably won't be forced to start over!

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Originally Posted by Reika

30hrs to to complete the tutorial too right?

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To be specific he said the tutorial would conclude at around level 15, which would take about 30 hours to get through.
So both.

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Originally Posted by Zhyrios

again, the 30 hours was for 1-15ish, not 1-50.

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If this is correct I'll be happy with the speed, but I still dislike EXP periods. As someone said before, this isn't Call of Duty.
But I'll wait for an official translation.

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Originally Posted by Andrien

First of all, this just proves you're that 20% and that they'll take this result from the current game into consideration for tweaking 2.0 pace.

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I was the 20%, you're a smart one!

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Originally Posted by Andrien

At this point you're trying to hard. Stop and save yourself from further embarrassment time traveler

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Trying to hard? Right... Oh, and you can spell big words! Good for you! =)
I guess I really shouldn't feed the trolls.

You are asking for exp periods for selfish reasons or for the concern of bringing in new players? The difference being you advertise to bring in ppl for the weekend, or do something like mogtabs for the current player base. Once a week you can get skill up increase. increased movement speed. etc etc.

I would much rather see something like mog tablets in ffxiv then watch SE whore themselves out with double xp weekends trying to bring in even more casuals I doubt Ill even get to play with.

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Originally Posted by Raagnar

You are asking for exp periods for selfish reasons or for the concern of bringing in new players? The difference being you advertise to bring in ppl for the weekend, or do something like mogtabs for the current player base. Once a week you can get skill up increase. increased movement speed. etc etc.

I would much rather see something like mog tablets in ffxiv then watch SE whore themselves out with double xp weekends trying to bring in even more casuals I doubt Ill even get to play with.

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If you have everything to 50 or close to it, I dont think youd have anything to gain from wanting exp periods, except on a new character. New players will be getting almost all the benefit out of such things, not oldies.

I personally will have everything to 50 before the servers go down, but I don't at all mind any events that help any new players shoot up to 50's so I have more people to do stuff with.


tho, I see the selfishness out of those who say leveling is too fast and rather it be slowed down, but have everything to 50 or just about everything to 50.

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Originally Posted by Kalsic

I was the 20%, you're a smart one!

Trying to hard? Right... Oh, and you can spell big words! Good for you! =)
I guess I really shouldn't feed the trolls.

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So, you resort to calling people trolls, and answering back with sarcastic remarks when people give you valid statements. You've out done yourself, bravo.

Pretty much every other MMO out there has double exp weekends every once in a while. I don't see why FFXIV can't have them every once in a while. I'd love to see this happen sometimes.

The game is already easy to level and with double xp weekends it will only do more damage then good. I hope SE doesn't go ahead with it.

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Originally Posted by Nighthawk

The game is already easy to level and with double xp weekends it will only do more damage then good. I hope SE doesn't go ahead with it.

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A weeks rested bonus is already superior to any 'double exp weekend' as is -- we have a problem of people blowing past gear and content as is due to leveling speed (including PLing), doubling that will just make it worse honestly.

why are you shmucks necroing threads i thought it was frowned on ? or is necroing threads from april last year acceptable ?

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Originally Posted by Vassteel1

why are you shmucks necroing threads i thought it was frowned on ? or is necroing threads from april last year acceptable ?

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I think you're in a time loop.

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Originally Posted by Zhyrios

again, the 30 hours was for 1-15ish, not 1-50.

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That is pretty slow.... This just in, someone maxed out their GW2 character (lv. 80) in 32 hours.

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/in...aunches-966226

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

That is pretty slow.... This just in, someone maxed out their GW2 character (lv. 80) in 32 hours.

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/in...aunches-966226

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Before anyone gets too crazy:

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Level 80 is always something to celebrate, but be aware that this was not through normal leveling. A few users have made us aware of unusual ways to level very fast. We're fixing these issues as I type.

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