Shameful lack of content, Yoshi P.

There is plenty of stuff to do in the game still

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

So according to your point of view, people shouldnt even complain then, after all they dont owe us anything so why even complain ? All we are good is for paying the subscription right ?

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Did you not read what I wrote? Is there a point to our conversation if you are just going to not read it and fly off the handle/rant randomly? Or are you just here to waste everybody’s time?

I don't really take people who don't have everything (close to) done seriously. If you don't you cant complain (factually) about a lack of content or things to do. In fact didn't someone here prove that the content hasn't actually lessend compared to the past expansion? Content you don't want to do is still content. Content you don't find fun or worth is still content.

Also do we really need these threads every day/week? They're just circlejerks at this point


Oh btw word to the wise here. Stormypeaks often twists what people say to make them look bad or misrepresent them. Don't believe me? If you're bored check their post history. Just a heads up

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

I don't really take people who don't have everything (close to) done seriously. If you don't you cant complain (factually) about a lack of content or things to do. In fact didn't someone here prove that the content hasn't actually lessend compared to the past expansion? Content you don't want to do is still content. Content you don't find fun or worth is still content.

Also do we really need these threads every day/week? They're just circlejerks at this point


Oh btw word to the wise here. Stormypeaks often twists what people say to make them look bad or misrepresent them. Don't believe me? If you're bored check their post history. Just a heads up

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Do we need all of these threads that are practically the same thread? No, but look at who we're dealing with. Course this also is how thr NA forum has been for years. It just feels a lot more prevalent these days. It's a mix of a few groups. The "I feel my voice is being drowned out in another person's thread so I need to start a new one" type. And the "More threads on/about the same thing surely has to out weigh one thread with a butt ton of pages, right?" crowd. Mixed in with the "late person to the debate/possible troll who can't be bothered to use the search function (or more likely the search function is crap) who feels the need to start a new thread" type.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

Do we need all of these threads that are practically the same thread? No, but look at who we're dealing with. Course this also is how thr NA forum has been for years. It just feels a lot more prevalent these days. It's a mix of a few groups. The "I feel my voice is being drowned out in another person's thread so I need to start a new one" type. And the "More threads on/about the same thing surely has to out weigh one thread with a butt ton of pages, right?" crowd. Mixed in with the "late person to the debate/possible troll who can't be bothered to use the search function (or more likely the search function is crap) who feels the need to start a new thread" type.

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Honestly I can't really argue there. Sadly I don't think it'd change with a "good" expansion. NA forums are tainted at this point. It's just a vent space and an attack ground. Hence why I'd imagine is partially why devs steer clear whether that's right/wrong, fair/not.

Copium
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As you know thats the only retort they have.

Dude, you literally has no job at lv90. You didnt finish Bozjan. All you do is crafting, with some suffering you levelled up only Dwarf tribe and you are complaining about content in the whole game, lol.

Not just content but the game itself. FFXIV is presented as a very casual friendly game which has content easy to keep people playing for casual people. I would say that out of the community 85% to 90% casual player base with a 10% to 15% hardcore player base. It's why the content is so easy if all the content was a lot more challenging then casual players wouldn't be around as much. People say there is plenty to do BUT that exception is got to have friends in order to do all the content mostly. The thing that sucks is from someone who has been on this game since 2014 is that the community lives in clique bubbles. The game is fine if you are in that clique but if your an outsider then the game is now a solo game and not much fun.

To me the game has been losing it's shine it may have gotten a new coat of paint but nothing really has changed. People that actually critique the flaws in the game get judged by the community like it's a cult and get outed and ostracized about showing the flaws and what can be done to correct them but to the cult it's 100% perfect so people just stop caring. Why should I voice what is wrong with features, jobs etc when my thinking will get shot down? I might as well just stand in a city and go afk or use FFXIV as a online chat room which is what it has devolved into. I even go into a duty and mainly listen to music because 95% of the time no one ever speaks and just becomes a boring run.

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Originally Posted by Payotz

Nah you should complain. Give feedback as much as you can, but if they still won't listen after a while, then you just leave and find another video game.
And I'm telling you, as a dude who's been complaining in this place for 4-5 years, they won't listen.
They won't listen to you, they won't listen to me, because we're not the target audience anymore.

Let's just both hope the upcoming MMOs are good.

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The time for a FFXIV exodus is likely upon us. This is the exact opposite of what I wanted for this game, but the current state of affairs leaves us with no choice. You cannot hope to keep me around if the story isn't gripping and if the content isn't designed to be played through more than once. This is out of my hands, and I refuse to be gaslit by some people who sooner pin the blame on players rather than how the game has been driven to this point.

I didn't want to end up playing FFXI more than FFXIV this expansion but that is quite literally the outcome they've manufactured with the string of decisions leading up to this patch. Granted I was so eager to praise them for finally taking my main job in the right direction after a decade of waiting for Summoner to stop being a poison mage but it's still extremely lacking compared to my pantheon in FFXI, which I can further strengthen through horizontal progression systems. But here? This expansion doesn't even have a real relic grind.

What's most frustrating of all is that there were so many easy ways and opportunities to throw my crowd a bone every now and then and each time nothing happened. A complete betrayal on each front was the reward of my decade of loyalty to this game, as both gameplay and the setting itself are destroyed bit by bit to make way for: ??? Who even knows. Much as I'd like for Hiroi to blow me away and show me that he's capable of being the right writer to steer this ship back on track, I cannot help but be concerned for what awaits us at the end of Pandaemonium's storyline. To say nothing of the fact that his work, however excellent, does not compensate for the shortcomings of the mass-produced low quality gameplay content of Endwalker.

I don't take pleasure in calling this out - I would much rather be like how I was back in Shadowbringers praising Bozja and the story at every opportunity. And yet even I as one of the game's biggest fans was let down in so many ways. While I have people accusing me of being a hater, that I've always disliked everything about the game, when that is the complete opposite of the truth.

Zelda is not more important than addressing the concerns we've been trying to call attention to this expansion. Let's see if by fanfest attention is refocused back on FFXIV and that we can avoid similar displays. FFXIV has so much trust to regain right now, but if not even the first step in the right direction can be taken by at least seeing and acknowledging the feedback of these issues, then no matter how much I'd love to come back and have this game as my main MMORPG, it won't be able to reclaim its position like it had back through 2013-2022. How we have 10 more years of FFXIV in a world with no empire, no gods, no other major threats, coupled with continually simplified gameplay and nonrepeatable content is a question I have no answer to.

I did not want my journey to end with Endwalker.

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Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang

Not just content but the game itself. FFXIV is presented as a very casual friendly game which has content easy to keep people playing for casual people. I would say that out of the community 85% to 90% casual player base with a 10% to 15% hardcore player base. It's why the content is so easy if all the content was a lot more challenging then casual players wouldn't be around as much. People say there is plenty to do BUT that exception is got to have friends in order to do all the content mostly. The thing that sucks is from someone who has been on this game since 2014 is that the community lives in clique bubbles. The game is fine if you are in that clique but if your an outsider then the game is now a solo game and not much fun.

To me the game has been losing its shine it may have gotten a new coat of paint but nothing really has changed. People that actually critique the flaws in the game get judged by the community like it's a cult and get outed and ostracized about showing the flaws and what can be done to correct them but to the cult it's 100% perfect so people just stop caring. Why should I voice what is wrong with features, jobs etc when my thinking will get shot down? I might as well just stand in a city and go afk or use FFXIV as an online chat room which is what it has devolved into. I even go into a duty and mainly listen to music because 95% of the time no one ever speaks and just becomes a boring run.

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I do really feel on the second bit you touched upon. There are a lot of people who view this game as well as yoshi p as infallible. It does make it hard, a lot of attitudes especially on these forums is “WELL THIS DOESNT EFFECT ME, IM HAVING FUN STOP BEING A DOOMER”

I really enjoy this game but there are some glaring weaknesses that the devs really need to address otherwise we are going to be in a lot of trouble come 7.0

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Originally Posted by Boomoo

Just going to say it… FFXIV content is lacking and telling the player ...

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BINGO! I win! "FFXIV content is lacking" was exactly what I needed on my FFXIV Forums Commentary Card for "Just under the wire: complaining about content two days before patch release".

Thank you. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

BINGO! I win! "FFXIV content is lacking" was exactly what I needed on my FFXIV Forums Commentary Card for "Just under the wire: complaining about content two days before patch release".

Thank you. Thank you.

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Ok and? People have assessed the preview during the live letter and are not thrilled with the level of content coming in the patch and that it is far less than previous patches.

Just because new content is coming doesn’t mean it’s going to fix all the current issues with the game.

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

Just because new content is coming doesn’t mean it’s going to fix all the current issues with the game.

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Why would it?
Its a patch, not a whole new Expansion. These Fixes to Current issues isnt something thats gonna be regulated to a simple Patch.

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

Ok and? People have assessed the preview during the live letter and are not thrilled with the level of content coming in the patch and that it is far less than previous patches.

Just because new content is coming doesn’t mean it’s going to fix all the current issues with the game.

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It isn't far less though? for the day and release its identical to other expansion X.4 patches....the only different is 6.45 while not having a new exploration zone we have another variant/criterion dungeon and the relic not being 'Run X content for a 20% drop and continue to farm what you like tome wise' There is nothing lesser about this patch....yeesh

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

The time for a FFXIV exodus is likely upon us.

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I... don't think it's that dramatic. It's just a game. There will still be people coming and enjoying the game even though it's not pandering towards the old guard.
And that's completely fine. I say let them enjoy the game for what it is.

Just come for the stuff that's still good for you. Whether that be RP/ERP, Gold Saucer, the Crafting, the Story, anything really.
It's not really a "forever" game. I don't think any game is tbh.

I don't think being this attached to any form of media is healthy anyway. There's a lot of things that compete for your attention, so I say if you don't like it, complain about it for a bit, and if it doesn't change, just leave.

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Originally Posted by Ivtrix

Ok and? People have assessed the preview during the live letter and are not thrilled with the level of content coming in the patch and that it is far less than previous patches.

Just because new content is coming doesn’t mean it’s going to fix all the current issues with the game.

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Mind putting out a comparison of sorts? You say far less content here yes? I'm curious. What did 5.4, 4.4, 3.4 and 2.4 give us compared to what's coming in 6.4?

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Originally Posted by Payotz

I... don't think it's that dramatic. It's just a game. There will still be people coming and enjoying the game even though it's not pandering towards the old guard.
And that's completely fine. I say let them enjoy the game for what it is.

Just come for the stuff that's still good for you. Whether that be RP/ERP, Gold Saucer, the Crafting, the Story, anything really.
It's not really a "forever" game. I don't think any game is tbh.

I don't think being this attached to any form of media is healthy anyway. There's a lot of things that compete for your attention, so I say if you don't like it, complain about it for a bit, and if it doesn't change, just leave.

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I think the “Oh the end is nigh!" behaviour is bewildering and makes debating feel pointless at times. Like, I get being passionate about it. This game was here for me in the worst year of my life, but in the end it is just a game. Pixels on a screen. There is no shame to moving on, or taking a break.

The Atmosphere of the community is similar to how it was in BFA for WoW. Community is polarized into camp; Endwalker and everything about endwalker is garbage, and camp; Everything is fine, stop whining.

Meanwhile the game suffers as a whole.

Will there be a Mass Exodus from XIV? Likely not. What killed WoW and halved its population overnight was a combination of the Blitzchung hong kong protests, WC3 Reforged, and the sexual assault allegations hitting them all within a time span of a few months, and the last 2 expansions being completely horrible. The community was already turned against the developers, and the scandals were just the final nail in the coffin for a lot of people.

The XIV team doesn't fully have the same issues going for them, though I believe the direction they're heading is horrible.

They don't listen to feedback from their playerbase. There are plenty of easy problems in PvE, and PvP they can fix. But do they? No. They do not. We say we want more content, Yoshi and crew say go play Zelda. We say we want serious PvP fixes, they say no, go play a different mode. Healers want their jobs to be less mindless, Yoshi says you should just go play ultimates. Theres a disconnect between the community, and the people making the decisions and they don't seem to be getting the message that a lot of people aren't happy with what they're doing.

More then likely there won't be a mass exodus. FFXIV won't go down with a bang, but with a whimper as it slowly loses people as these problems worsen, and theres likely nothing that can be done about it because the community won't come together and agree on anything. You're either a XIV hater, or a XIV copium addict.

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Originally Posted by Archeron

The Atmosphere of the community is similar to how it was in BFA for WoW. Community is polarized into camp; Endwalker and everything about endwalker is garbage, and camp; Everything is fine, stop whining.

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Is the community really that divided though? This forum? Sure, but we are just a small grain of sand compared to the wider community (One consisting also of trolls, attention seekers and disingenuous debaters) and whilst I do not want to invalidate genuine concerns, it just does not seem to have the same general 'outrage' BFA+ had.

I also kinda disagree with the description of said camps too. Very rarely do people seem to be copium addicted boot licker's demanding people not complain. There is a difference between disagreeing with criticism and saying it should not exist.

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Originally Posted by Hurlstone

Is the community really that divided though? This forum? Sure, but we are just a small grain of sand compared to the wider community (One consisting also of trolls, attention seekers and disingenuous debaters) and whilst I do not want to invalidate genuine concerns, it just does not seem to have the same general 'outrage' BFA+ had.

I also kinda disagree with the description of said camps too. Very rarely do people seem to be copium addicted boot licker's demanding people not complain. There is a difference between disagreeing with criticism and saying it should not exist.

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We can't even discuss what people think ingame, because ingame chat is so heavily moderated that any mildly offensive comment will get you account warnings, or a ban. Most people will choose not to speak ingame about anything critical of the game.

That being said, I don't see a middle ground with this community. They're either completely satisfied and annoyed that people don't like aspects of their game, or they're constantly complaining on the forums about every aspect of the game. This community has no unity whatsoever, and it sends a divided messages to the developers who in turn just do whatever they want regardless of how it affects the game and the result is lackluster, boring content with no polish, and the developers accepting no accountability for it.

The reason I specifically mention BFA was the absence of that complete outrage in the early patches. The community was definetely seething, but a lot of people still had hopes that when Shadowlands and Classic came out that things would get better and there would be a lot to look forward to. Obviously we know how that ended up going. It feels similar in XIV today, and I can see the disconnect between the developers, and the community at large. I have no doubt that based upon the quality of content we've recieved in the mid expansion patches, if this continues into 7.0 XIV will start slowly bleeding players. They still have the chance to fix that.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

..........if FFXIV goes to 10.0...wouldn't that mean the game was a Success?
If the game is so bad, it wouldnt go that far....And we already have a Dragonflight, its called Heavenward. Which was very Successful.

So your points here make ZERO sense at all.

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There are a lot of dead MMOs with <100 players limping along for a decade.

Then again can't expect much from someone who can't even capitalize properly and use Family Guy and South Park gifs.

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Originally Posted by GaiusDrakon

There are a lot of dead MMOs with <100 players limping along for a decade.

Then again can't expect much from someone who can't even capitalize properly and use Family Guy and South Park gifs.

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FFXIV doesnt have <100 players limping along. And if it did, it wouldn't get to Patch 10.0
Then again, can't expect common sense from a guy who needs to take jabs at Family Guy and South Park gifs.

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Originally Posted by EliaStormblade

Well, it requires a very high IQ to say "thing bad because I say bad" and proceed to balk at people who don't concur.

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The fact you could misinterpret concepts from basic logic 101 - which does not require a high IQ and is expected of any reasonably alert adult human - as having an opinion on the game says it all really.

If X then Y

can be disproved by pointing out that there exists not Y that is X.

But yes, I suppose to anyone who doesn't understand this they have to resort to putting up a strawman.

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Originally Posted by GaiusDrakon

The fact you don't see why my example demolishes your argument shows how utterly devoid of electrical activity your prefrontal cortex is.

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The Fact you can't use Common Sense to realize your own nonsense shows your lack of Intelligence.
Archeron above said, that if the game continues as it is into 7.0, it will bleed players. But it can be fixed.
You then respond with "The chance is already gone. Wait until 10.0 when their ass is on fire"

If it has no chance of being fixed, how would it go into 10.0? FFXIV would not limp on and survive on <100 players for another 10 years or so if the game was a failure.
Get your Brain off Stupid for a minute and think about how your Example and Counterargument lacks any sense here.

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Originally Posted by Arkdra

I mean, I like the game! I don't really need them to make any changes as it currently stands for them to keep my sub. So for me, long as the servers up I am happy. I got lots of small problems I would love to see fixed but meh, they aren't deal breakers. You're the smoothbrained dongus who shadowposts with multiple accounts for a game you apparently don't like?

Edit: Let's cut to the chase, post your failure metric or shut up.

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Casuals glammed catgirl? Check
Hasnt done any combat content in over half a year? Check

Ofcourse you like the "game" when you dont even play the game but use it as a modding platform like Skyrim.

Player generated content is still content. The RP community will exist for as long as the servers stay on.

But that can't be said for the rest of the game.

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Originally Posted by Shinkuno

Casuals glammed catgirl? Check
Hasnt done any combat content in over half a year? Check

Ofcourse you like the "game" when you dont even play the game but use it as a modding platform like Skyrim.

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I play the game all the time. I don't do high end raids because they suck. Lived that life ages ago, no thanks. I've been in maintenance mode about a month now but I otherwise did all the content in the patch I wanted to do besides Orthos. But Imma be real, potd and hoh both sucked and I cannot be assed to do more of Orthos right now. I'll get to it eventually, probably. Maybe not though, main impetus would be the scythe but it looks too close to this manderville step so the lack of differentiation is a demotivator.

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Originally Posted by Arkdra

I play the game all the time. I don't do high end raids because they suck. Lived that life ages ago, no thanks. I've been in maintenance mode about a month now but I otherwise did all the content in the patch I wanted to do besides Orthos. But Imma be real, potd and hoh both sucked and I cannot be assed to do more of Orthos right now. I'll get to it eventually, probably. Maybe not though, main impetus would be the scythe but it looks too close to this manderville step so the lack of differentiation is a demotivator.

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Fair. Its just funny that most people that say the game is perfect with lots of content have characters clearly made with mods in mind and dont do any content whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by Arkdra

I play the game all the time. I don't do high end raids because they suck. Lived that life ages ago, no thanks. I've been in maintenance mode about a month now but I otherwise did all the content in the patch I wanted to do besides Orthos. But Imma be real, potd and hoh both sucked and I cannot be assed to do more of Orthos right now. I'll get to it eventually, probably. Maybe not though, main impetus would be the scythe but it looks too close to this manderville step so the lack of differentiation is a demotivator.

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You never have to defend why you're enjoying a game. Especially from people that hate the game and won't stop paying for it.

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Originally Posted by Shinkuno

Fair. Its just funny that most people that say the game is perfect with lots of content have characters clearly made with mods in mind and dont do any content whatsoever.

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I do just about all the casual content this game throws out, and it throws out a lot. Pretty stoked for the next raid tier because while I don't have the patience for savage raids, I still enjoy the normal versions. Will probably do that ahead of MSQ, but maybe not before I craft a full set of the crafted set, depending on how much the fuckers might make me re-meld!!!

I'll never understand why people here rag on casual players for liking the state of a game...thats made for casual players...
OFC people who aren't super hardcore are generally going to be OK with how things currently are because they're the majority and the game n how it functions reflects this.

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

I'll never understand why people here rag on casual players for liking the state of a game...thats made for casual players...
OFC people who aren't super hardcore are generally going to be OK with how things currently are because they're the majority and the game n how it functions reflects this.

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I mean if people were to do their research on everyone rather than just people they disagreed with, they would actually come to the conclusion that there are just as many people complaining about content and having nothing to do, even though they've barely touched the game by any metric, as to what there are people saying they have plenty to do whilst never actually getting around to doing that 'plenty'.

Some people are just incapable of coming to the conclusion that there are people that play this game differently than they do, inc., how they digest the content.

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Fair. Its just funny that most people that say the game is perfect with lots of content have characters clearly made with mods in mind and dont do any content whatsoever.

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You're making a lot of assumptions just because someone likes to make their base character look good and anytime I see you post now it's literally just attacking people about modding even if it has nothing to do with the actual topic at hand. We get it, you hate modders. They're not the ones forcing the game in the direction that it is though and it's honestly starting to become a really tired joke to constantly relate the game to a second life type or a casual only experience. The devs are pushing out content to appeal to more than just the hardcore raid scene...because the hardcore raid scene isn't the only community that exists here. Taking away modding or shaming people that use it isn't going to suddenly make them become raiders or somehow encourage a mass exodus from other games to push it in a direction of every person only engaging in harder content and ignoring roleplay or other fun activities in that area.

Also, you do realize that people who do harder content like Ultimates also mod their characters or their animations to look better? They mod their UIs to look cleaner? Modding isn't just a thing for roleplayers anymore or for people who want to lewd out their characters for gil, it's becoming something that players across all playstyles are using to improve the game.

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You're making a lot of assumptions just because someone likes to make their base character look good and anytime I see you post now it's literally just attacking people about modding even if it has nothing to do with the actual topic at hand. We get it, you hate modders. They're not the ones forcing the game in the direction that it is though and it's honestly starting to become a really tired joke to constantly relate the game to a second life type or a casual only experience. The devs are pushing out content to appeal to more than just the hardcore raid scene...because the hardcore raid scene isn't the only community that exists here. Taking away modding or shaming people that use it isn't going to suddenly make them become raiders or somehow encourage a mass exodus from other games to push it in a direction of every person only engaging in harder content.

Also, you do realize that people who do harder content like Ultimates also mod their characters or their animations to look better? They mod their UIs to look cleaner? Modding isn't just a thing for roleplayers anymore or for people who want to lewd out their characters for gil, it's becoming something that players across all playstyles are using to improve the game.

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Other games like ESO actually actively encourage mods. They have an in-game mod list on the main title screen as well so you can see what mods you installed. Most of these aren't visual but QoL like map icons and the like.

From many perspectives specific mods are just QoL that the devs haven't gotten around to. I know XIV has policies though, but I don't see every mod as some evil.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Other games like ESO actually actively encourage mods. They have an in-game mod list on the main title screen as well so you can see what mods you installed. Most of these aren't visual but QoL like map icons and the like.

From many perspectives specific mods are just QoL that the devs haven't gotten around to. I know XIV has policies though, but I don't see every mod as some evil.

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Speaking from my experience with FF11, plugins and mods there are basically normalized. Bots there are rampant in all of the starter areas. The GMs legitimately don't care, they're talked about openly. I'm not entirely shocked that 14 is taking a similar approach to not caring about modders either considering how it's viewed in their other MMO. This is just an area where people need to kind of grow up and realize that people can play a game however they choose, especially if the GMs and Square itself view it with a blind eye. You literally can't see it unless you install a way to see them and you'd still even need people's Mare codes to see other people at all.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

As of the time of writing Tuesday is set to be my final day playing because upon the conclusion of Pandaemonium's story there is nothing left in the writing for me to look forward to.

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Speaking from my experience with FF11, plugins and mods there are basically normalized. Bots there are rampant in all of the starter areas. The GMs legitimately don't care, they're talked about openly. I'm not entirely shocked that 14 is taking a similar approach to not caring about modders either considering how it's viewed in their other MMO. This is just an area where people need to kind of grow up and realize that people can play a game however they choose, especially if the GMs and Square itself view it with a blind eye. You literally can't see it unless you install a way to see them and you'd still even need people's Mare codes to see other people at all.

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it should be obvious that the only time Square cares is when its bad publicity. how much CBU3 cares is a bit more blatant, but the only time SQUARE gives a hoot is when theres shit on billboards, trending #'s , or enough nsfw with their 3d models that ERB's start getting on their ass.

Well I have been distancing myself from FFXIV the past couple weeks since for me over the years the game is just to easy and boring. Lately been playing Starship Troopers Extermination which has been fun and waiting on Diablo 4 to make a blood magic necromancer build

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Bored of seeing his face tbh, would be good.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Other games like ESO actually actively encourage mods.

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ESO PC players enjoy the game with other ESO PC players and have addons. ESO Xbox players enjoy the game with other ESO Xbox players with no addons. ESO PS4 players enjoy the game with other ESO PS4 players with no addons. There are no addons available for either the Xbox or PS4.

FFXIV, with both PC and PS4/PS5 players enjoying the game together will never have official mods for this reason. The console players would be at a disadvantage.