Is it me or has the community gotten worse...

I don't see attitudes that are more toxic than a Morbol's Bad Breath.

However, I don't see as much of a "hi" or "tyfp" in most dungeon or trial runs nowadays. Quite a bit of people are so silent that I don't even know if they are enjoying the game or something.

The community is just a bit more toxic only because the Savage Raids/Ex Trials is still fresh. Wait a few weeks and it will die down when the Raiders get bored and take a break xD. Remember the last 2 months before Shadowbringers? lol.

The community is the same: Unfortunately thinking a dungeon run is a chore and other players just hold them back in their awesomeness. Especially tanks are obnoxious since a couple of weeks; in one instance I even left before the last boss because of an extreme case of "I am tank, you are nothing" behaviour. Running into boss rooms when a cutscene is going on for a player, taking more mobs than he can survive despite me mashing my buttons perfectly. Then talking in some cringy basement kiddo lingo: "wtf lulz y r u nto heal?". After 2 wipes because of that I told him he is trash and left, throwing away 30 minutes of work in the roulette just to have an impact. The healer replacement got a quick bonus for only fighting the last boss, but I could not stand that anymore.

I realize myself I am often displaced. I am open, I am free to chat (in real sentences), talk about the dungeon, explain runs - but then being surrounded by snob tanks and bored speedrun DPS and people that shamelessly start the lift when one of your party members is approaching it and leave him alone on the other floor. Not only that, they run off into a undersized boss fight and then blame people. Made me walking out of the boss room as healer before it closed and watched them die while I waited for the guy coming out of the lift. Funny though, they did not kick me, but I also don't think they realized why I punished them...

What you, OP, are describing is called "Tacticool" in real life. They buy their outfits and weapons to have a facade, talking how big their guns are but never hit a target and have no clue about gun safety or "respect" for firearms.

I had a BLM with a shiny Stardust in 2015 that was the same: Such a blender paired with a big mouth and absolute no-skill.
Or my favourite story about the other RDM in "Final Steps of Faith": "I iz da best", "OMG what is dat tanking", "Healerzz?????" - died 4 times in avoidable stuff, did not Vercure himself in downtimes despite enough mana, went into melee when the boss was clearly starting to nuke the area around him. But a big mouth with cash shop clothes...

Sincerely,
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Originally Posted by mario710

I said I thought Alisae was hot and got crucified.

I’m steering clear of the hive-mind.

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She isn’t hot

I have noticed that there is far less greetings in 4 man dungeons now.

I really have not seen anything different in my time here, maybe I have just been lucky. When it comes to dungeons, grand majority of the time its a peaceful run from start to finish with no trolling unless it was between friends and in good fun. However I also don't bother to do the Extremes this expansion, just don't have the want or drive to learn it.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

You said you wanted adolescent models in the game, and that you wished you could date Alisae, despite describing yourself as someone well into adulthood. No wonder the "hive-mind" didn't like it, it's pretty creepy.

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Then I guess he deserve to be crucified

Meanwhile in Black Desert Online, their newest class is literally a 6 yr old girl xD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u64XCHPvgmM

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Originally Posted by RareItems

Meanwhile in Black Desert Online, their newest class is literally a 6 yr old girl xD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u64XCHPvgmM

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People have to villain bat someone to satiate their frustrations. Apparently finding Alisae sexy is a huge no-no.

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Originally Posted by RareItems

Reality is, Most if not all of the toxicity/Elitism in this game comes from the Current Raiding community and the ones who put Mentor Crowns on their names. Where else will you find Toxicity and Elitism in this game xD.

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Except it's not. People use their anecdotes they get with toxic randoms that get carried through all the "raiding" content they do, so people like to generalize all raiders into the toxic/elitism category. You don't have to be doing end-game content to be elitist and toxic. Stop lumping everyone into the raiding community together and painting them all with the toxicity and Elitism brush. It happens in all areas of the game.

I haven't noticed any particular spike in toxicity lately even with the larger numbers due to the expansion. I however do notice an influx of players trying to speedrun or cheese dungeons and fights without the skill or gear to back it up. Most of the bad attitudes I've seen in recent months has been from players in older content so make of that what you will. And as for generalizing raiders and mentors, stop that.

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Originally Posted by SilverObi

I haven't noticed any particular spike in toxicity lately even with the larger numbers due to the expansion. I however do notice an influx of players trying to speedrun or cheese dungeons and fights without the skill or gear to back it up. Most of the bad attitudes I've seen in recent months has been from players in older content so make of that what you will. And as for generalizing raiders and mentors, stop that.

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That's been my experience as well. If I had a dime for every time I got into LoTA and had people realize that, no, they still can't cheese it I'd be rich.

Overall the level of toxicity hasn't increased or decreased in my experience - and overall the community is generally fairly kind compared to other MMO's I've played.

The main thing I've noticed is mechanics going out the window for roulette, particularly Alliance Raid where people just want to blast through it. However, in general, I don't find the community any more toxic than it was. Honestly, I think the influx of new players has brought some really wonderful people to the game.

Also, not to be biased...I find Hrothgar community to just be the sweetest player base ever :D

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Originally Posted by Selova

Except it's not. People use their anecdotes they get with toxic randoms that get carried through all the "raiding" content they do, so people like to generalize all raiders into the toxic/elitism category. You don't have to be doing end-game content to be elitist and toxic. Stop lumping everyone into the raiding community together and painting them all with the toxicity and Elitism brush. It happens in all areas of the game.

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It happens in all areas of the game where there's a mentor or a raider involved lol.

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Originally Posted by mario710

People have to villain bat someone to satiate their frustrations. Apparently finding Alisae sexy is a huge no-no.

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The fact the FFXIV community is so strongly against pedophila I think is a point in ifs favor.

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Originally Posted by SerLuke

The fact the FFXIV community is so strongly against pedophila I think is a point in ifs favor.

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I am pretty sure in Shadowbringers both Alphinaud and Alisae are well over 18.

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Originally Posted by Alucard135

Ever met angry sprouts that scream "don't tell me how to play!" when they're struggling in dungeons?

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Arent those the "you dont pay my sub" ppl? xD

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Originally Posted by DynnDiablos

I am pretty sure in Shadowbringers both Alphinaud and Alisae are well over 18.

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They are 17 years old max

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Originally Posted by SerLuke

The fact the FFXIV community is so strongly against pedophila I think is a point in ifs favor.

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People share nude modded Ryne on social media anyway,mind you shes atleast 13 years old~
Have seen images pop on Twitter and random gaming forums~ and ppl enjoy it D:
FFXIV has a lot of creeps sadly

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Originally Posted by Sathona

They are 17 years old max



People share nude modded Ryne on social media anyway,mind you shes atleast 13 years old~
Have seen images pop on Twitter and random gaming forums~ and ppl enjoy it D:
FFXIV has a lot of creeps sadly

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Rule 34 apply to everybody and everything, lets not waste anytime arguing about absolute law of internet, there is nothing you can do about it... Nobody can.

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Originally Posted by Sathona

They are 17 years old max



People share nude modded Ryne on social media anyway,mind you shes atleast 13 years old~
Have seen images pop on Twitter and random gaming forums~ and ppl enjoy it D:
FFXIV has a lot of creeps sadly

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You have a very narrow view. It isn't FFXIV specifically that has a lot of creeps. Welcome to the human race.

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Originally Posted by Nariel

Rule 34 apply to everybody and everything, lets not waste anytime arguing about absolute law of internet, there is nothing you can do about it... Nobody can.

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Are you by chance 15 with a frequent history of 4chan?

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Are you by chance 15 with a frequent history of 4chan?

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Well no, but I'm aware enought of the fact that every character, be it a game, an anime, a film, a comics, a manga or even a book will get draw nude in the hour of its reveal. As absurd and cringy those internet law maybe, the rule 34 is the most consistent one if not the only one you can be sure will apply no matter if the original artist like it or not.

Just look at how fast a character from any game get fan art all over the web, there is no way it won't go to the lewd zone and the creepy zone as fast as the speed of light. There is no point discussing it to be made. People will do it, without the consent of anybody to be needed.

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Originally Posted by Sathona

They are 17 years old max



People share nude modded Ryne on social media anyway,mind you shes atleast 13 years old~
Have seen images pop on Twitter and random gaming forums~ and ppl enjoy it D:
FFXIV has a lot of creeps sadly

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Pretty sure nexus has skin overlays you can download as well.

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Originally Posted by Nims

The most toxic people I come across in this game are the lore, non raiding, “YOURE PLAYING THE GAME WRONG IF YOU SKIP CUTSCENES” people.

It doesn’t surprise me though, in other mmos these are the PvE only people and they’re usually extremely toxic there too.

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Not to long ago on twitter a soandso replied to tweet came up in my timeline that said in a nutshell "If you skip any cut scene in SB, SE should delete your account and I.P ban you"

I'm just sitting there reading it like.... "Why do you even care what others do?" >_>

I have played this game since 2.0, I have raided hard-core, mid-core, and now casual since I want to take things easy and have fun.
During all that time I have meet with a handful toxic players. Generally in trials and every single time the toxic player was the one doing the most mistakes.

But if someone were to send me a tell harassing me for not having cleared savage yet, I would:
1: Report them.
2: Blacklist them.
And with them obviously being such giant idiots I am sure they would have done the same to many other players, and if most other were to report... I wonder what could possible happen.

I call out toxic whiners as soon as they start. I urge everyone to do the same.

For example, we wipe twice and player A is being a little sissy Talking about "this group is never gonna make it" or "braindead group again".
Tell them to gtfo. I mean.. "ok then leave?" or "don't you start with this shit man."

More often than not people tend to just stfu if you're direct or proactive. Fact is, nobody likes a bad attitude.

I must be living under a rock because I had no idea people were doing such mods and pictures. XD Yikes. No thank you.

I am tired. At least once in a week i get kicked for no apparent reason when doing roulettes. Am i doing something wrong? Can you please TELL ME AT LEAST which is the problem??

Maybe i am lagging a bit and not RUNNING like we are losing the train all the f.king run?

Tired of just reporting, so i have an idea..
I know we can't public shame people on the forum, but what about other platforms? is it prohibited also? Beacuse i quickly read across the TOS and it does not seems so..
thanks a lot

Garten

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Originally Posted by SerLuke

The fact the FFXIV community is so strongly against pedophila I think is a point in ifs favor.

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well seems like she is 16 (in 2.0?) 16 or younger is the legal age pretty much everywhere, so he can't be a pedo.

Compared to the launch of ARR? Yeah, feels like it. Like there's less community oversight, policing, and more rudeness and elitist behavior.

I play on Coeurl, and while most there are laidback.... Roulette Alliance is hell, especially Balmung and Mateus players. They act like they're raiding gods and insult people, tell people to kill themselves, etc etc

I don't even bother now cause I am sick of them. I just do sidequests and other non-group content.

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I have played this game since 2.0, I have raided hard-core, mid-core, and now casual since I want to take things easy and have fun.
During all that time I have meet with a handful toxic players. Generally in trials and every single time the toxic player was the one doing the most mistakes.

But if someone were to send me a tell harassing me for not having cleared savage yet, I would:
1: Report them.
2: Blacklist them.
And with them obviously being such giant idiots I am sure they would have done the same to many other players, and if most other were to report... I wonder what could possible happen.

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This, most of the time it is the toxic who shout the loudest

The community is just as bad as it always has been, I am of the opinion that this games community is the worst online community out there. It pretends that its so good, so happy and non-toxic, when its actually full of toxicicty in form of casually just hating everyone who comes from some place else, or doesn't like the things the general community likes. And then it gets all high and mighty in "OOOH we are so good, everyone else is shit though, don't come and ruin OUR community with YOUR toxicity."

Nothing is worse than toxic casual who doesn't know how toxic they really are...

Worst thing I've experienced in-game is a DPS telling me not to pull more than one mob if I can't handle it, since I was new to tanking and he was right, I didn't think much of it. While he may have been a little rude about it, I didn't take it as anything more than some harsh criticism. Maybe people just have thin skin these days?? IDK, most of my experiences in game have been good ones.

I can't say if the community has devolved or not. What I can say is that it's just a game, people tend to be keyboard warriors in this day and age because it's easy to be a prick and there is mostly no punishment for it. My advice to anyone would just be to ignore it and don't let some rando internet train-wreck ruin your day because they said something mean.

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Originally Posted by Baalfrog

The community is just as bad as it always has been, I am of the opinion that this games community is the worst online community out there. It pretends that its so good, so happy and non-toxic, when its actually full of toxicicty in form of casually just hating everyone who comes from some place else, or doesn't like the things the general community likes. And then it gets all high and mighty in "OOOH we are so good, everyone else is shit though, don't come and ruin OUR community with YOUR toxicity."

Nothing is worse than toxic casual who doesn't know how toxic they really are...

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This is drivel pure and simple. I have played WoW. It is MUCH worse. This community is a gem by comparison.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

This is absolutely not true. FFXIV has always been a very pleasant community. I have played WoW in the past it it was a rotten cesspool. People treat each other like garbage over there. I will just keep reporting them if they cross the line.

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I've played both and I see no real difference between the communities. Just as there is no difference between LotRO, SWTOR, Everquest or any other I've played over the years. People like to think that the community of the game they prefer is better than the others, but they are all the same.

Yes the community is getting worse at the game which is causing people to lose their cool faster causing more toxic players

I never played wow... but to me -I'm a sonic fan- and it's all the same. You get the same debates, - everything is too easy- to -everything is too hard- etc etc etc. The actual game itself in dungeons might be nice as hell but REDDIT and FORUMS are where the true toxic lives. Look at how some people reply to joke threads or posts. Noone wants to hear that crap and instantly yells at people. We got people at each others throat here, gun standoffs and epic wars going back to 2012 on these boards. Reddit has it worst cause people there PURPOSELY vote down ANYTHING that isn't with group think. So yeah :C And all of this is OUT of game. Hell people got SCOTTZONE banned!!! THAT is toxic :C

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Originally Posted by Insertcoins

I never played wow... but to me -I'm a sonic fan- and it's all the same. You get the same debates, - everything is too easy- to -everything is too hard- etc etc etc. The actual game itself in dungeons might be nice as hell but REDDIT and FORUMS are where the true toxic lives. Look at how some people reply to joke threads or posts. Noone wants to hear that crap and instantly yells at people. We got people at each others throat here, gun standoffs and epic wars going back to 2012 on these boards. Reddit has it worst cause people there PURPOSELY vote down ANYTHING that isn't with group think. So yeah :C And all of this is OUT of game. Hell people got SCOTTZONE banned!!! THAT is toxic :C

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I have to agree. I've seen more people being mean to each other on this forum than I have experienced in the actual game.

It almost sounds like there are toxic people on the internet and in all gaming communities, and people like to generalise that a game's entire community is reflected by a minority of toxic people they've happened to have encountered...

I've encountered none of it...

EDIT: I thought Scottzone got himself banned by doxxing a person who sent him abuse...?
You can't blame a community for his actions, can you?

Great community by the way!