There Is No Dancer (yet)

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

Oh, so she isn't a Monk or a Dancer. She is a SUPER SAIYAN!

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I'd play that class (race?).

I honestly hope it's dancer and it's a melee healer. I love healing in this game but I truly love melee healers like the mistweaver of "WOW" and DNC of "FFXI" because they are fun and exciting jobs. Maybe it uses MNK skills because they decided to make PUG the base job it's possible.

Dancer isn't proven yet. Deal with it, and stop grasping at straws.

Y'know, I hope that's a monk and not dancer because that would be one pretty cheapass way to mak a class...
also, maybe they just decided to be realistic, unlike the game. 5 a girl won't use the same stance to punch than a boy, morphology and whatsoever
so maybe they took that into account, I mean, the girl stance looks pretty much like the fists of wind (Yeah I know red au ra, just check the stances in game)
in game no matter the race or gender we have the same animation for every classes...

Here are my thoughts on the subjects now if you will excuse me, I need to go back lurking in my shadows. have a good day guys ♥

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Originally Posted by Dorander

Looks exactly like the "proof" you all keep trying to insist.

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actually if you scroll back a few pages, i state that there's no real proof either way which is why we're free to speculate, so i'm not sure who "you all" is supposed to be. it's incredibly simple, we have monks in game and they don't move like the red lady in the trailer. nor do they dress like her, nor do they have daggers/hidden blades. acting like its a 100% certainty that she's just a monk is just as stupid as acting like she's 100% dancer. so maybe instead of being a moron and talking as an authority on something that we QUITE LITERALLY don't know, you can accept that it's a possibility.

or just bury your head in the sand i guess, just like the "you all" that you're trying to patronise

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

Oh, so she isn't a Monk or a Dancer. She is a SUPER SAIYAN!

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Not quite Super Saiyan but Kaio-ken x 20 is still impressive.

But I mean, WoL is clearly Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan.

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Originally Posted by Xiao_

actually if you scroll back a few pages, i state that there's no real proof either way which is why we're free to speculate, so i'm not sure who "you all" is supposed to be. it's incredibly simple, we have monks in game and they don't move like the red lady in the trailer. nor do they dress like her, nor do they have daggers/hidden blades. acting like its a 100% certainty that she's just a monk is just as stupid as acting like she's 100% dancer. so maybe instead of being a moron and talking as an authority on something that we QUITE LITERALLY don't know, you can accept that it's a possibility.

or just bury your head in the sand i guess, just like the "you all" that you're trying to patronise

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I wouldn't have to patronize you and those like yourself when there actually is, quite a bit of valid 'proof' in one direction. Here it is again where I posted it in another thread, but since I figure you are incapable of doing research, or taking the time to click links, I'll copy and paste.

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Originally Posted by Dorander

Yda is a pugilist, she's been referred to as that in the story.

Papalymo is referred to as a thaumaturge.

Thancred first calls himself a bard. Even though he, up to 2.2 quite obviously used gladiator skills, now he's been called a rogue and looks like one when he draws his weapons.

Y'shtola has been referred to as a Conjurer, though she's quite often uses Collective Unconscious, which is an AST skill.

Milfilia had a single dagger, though she was never shown in combat so it's likely that she had no 'battle' class/job.

Urianger is an arcanist, however he wields a staff which is not possible by player arcanists, (though in the 3.4 story during his costume change he uses a book).

Alphinaud is an Arcanist, and as such wields a book and summon carbuncles of different colors.

Raubhan is a gladiator, and as I said in my post, used to dual wield swords. Though player gladiators are relegated to a single sword and shield.

That's just the scions and Raubhan. Most have classes, and use skills/weapons outside of what a player character can. So, by looking at the teaser trailer, with the fact that this mystery girl meets the WoL who has 100% been confirmed to be a monk with nearly the same fighting style, one can safely assume that she is a monk or a pugilist. NOT a dancer.

If it's revealed later that she is one, it'll be a first. Because up to this point, they have not showcased a single new job in any trailer. Plus, if dancer was the case, wouldn't have been more wise for Yoshi-P to have worn say a "Dance dance revolution" shirt instead of scarlet witch if they wanted to hint at that job?

Instead, they gave us a taste of the expansion, Ala Mhigo, the hand of Rhalgr (and the new hub) and two sparing monks. People are really grasping at straws and doing mental gymnastics to force a narative that isn't there. If Dancer is a job that we get with Stormblood, great! However, at this time there is absolutely nothing that we've been shown that even hints at it.

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Maybe you, and yes I am referring directly to you "XIAO_" need to stop putting your fingers in your ears and/or burring your head in the sand when you are being all but slapped about the face with all the proof you need. Speculation is one thing, but forcing a narative that isn't there due to your own wants and desires for something isn't no longer speculation. It's conjecture at best, and flat out lying to yourself at worst.

Though we should all know by now that people like yourself will be the first to fly to the forums and scream in countless threads, berating S.E. for 'backtracking' on dancer because it was 'CONFIRMED!'

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Originally Posted by Xiao_

it's incredibly simple, we have monks in game and they don't move like the red lady in the trailer.

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Is the concept of "cinematic action" or "cutscene" that hard to understand ?

So I suppose we'll receive the Ranger job since, in the ARR Opening, we saw the Mi'Qote creating a shield to protect the Warrior. And we'll also get the Devout from CNJ, that will infuse elemental magic into weapons, or a buff to Steel Cyclone because we clearly saw it bypassing Ravana's shield...and a buff to Holmgang, to use on multiple targets...and a new BLM skill to instantly charge a MNK limit break...which is obviously not Final Heaven since it clearly strikes in an AoE...

I have to say i agree with Dorander here. It is not to say however that there will not be a dancer, it's like i said the lady in red is most likely a Monk and perhaps she did dance like moves as a tease to an upcoming job, or perhaps it is different Monk fighting style, or it could be them trolling people for speculation, hehe
The artwork for Stormblood is very interesting.

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

Is the concept of "cinematic action" or "cutscene" that hard to understand ?

So I suppose we'll receive the Ranger job since, in the ARR Opening, we saw the Mi'Qote creating a shield to protect the Warrior. And we'll also get the Devout from CNJ, that will infuse elemental magic into weapons, or a buff to Steel Cyclone because we clearly saw it bypassing Ravana's shield...and a buff to Holmgang, to use on multiple targets...and a new BLM skill to instantly charge a MNK limit break...which is obviously not Final Heaven since it clearly strikes in an AoE...

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this is absolutely valid and honestly the best argument against. a lot of things happen in cutscenes that we will never have the opportunity to do

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Originally Posted by Dorander

Though we should all know by now that people like yourself will be the first to fly to the forums and scream in countless threads, berating S.E. for 'backtracking' on dancer because it was 'CONFIRMED!'

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you literally can't, or don't read huh? allow me to quote, since you apparently missed it the first time:
"if you scroll back a few pages, i state that there's no real proof either way which is why we're free to speculate"

can you read that? the only people i see here belligerently screaming over the forums are OP and you, with your "WAHHHHH STOP SPECULATING" rhetoric. never once have i claimed that it's confirmed, or anything besides a possibility so what's gotten you so offended? and why even bother posting if you can't read replies?

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Originally Posted by Xiao_

this is absolutely valid and honestly the best argument against. a lot of things happen in cutscenes that we will never have the opportunity to do



you literally can't, or don't read huh? allow me to quote, since you apparently missed it the first time:
"if you scroll back a few pages, i state that there's no real proof either way which is why we're free to speculate"

can you read that? the only people i see here belligerently screaming over the forums are OP and you, with your "WAHHHHH STOP SPECULATING" rhetoric. never once have i claimed that it's confirmed, or anything besides a possibility so what's gotten you so offended? and why even bother posting if you can't read replies?

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Says the one person who has yet to even acknowledge what I've said. So, obviously you are the one who is completely incapable of reading or understanding the words. Do I need to use smaller ones for you to understand? I never said speculation needed to stop. I've said "stop forcing a narrative that doesn't exist" three times now.

Xiao_ need take facts that exist. Not what is rattling around braincase.

Is that clear and simple enough for you? Though I doubt it, since you'll retort with some other type of asinine attack.

we can't acknowledge stuff when what you say is wrong on too many way....

i did already give fact, absolute since they are limitation yoshida do have said to use for create new jobs or work on adding stuff to a jobs.
sadly it seems you don't care, you probably want to be able to do stuff like she do as fighter. however, i can't admit that she is monk. she is not monk, in ala miggho only two school of monk exist. the splendor and darkness. and both are from the same school, means them style are extremely close.

where this girl is the opposite of the monk (WoL), he is direct and most of the time do 1 hit with a lot of power, like a karate fighter. when she use combinaison of movement acrobatic fast and agile. they are like water and fire... yes she use a featherfeet skill (seems so) but that only a movement you can do for taunt your enemy, what she do at this point. snaps punch is a straight punch, basic move (not even monk move, more pugilist one), the charge, her movement in the charge is different she have her arm open in a movement of kung fu. and if you did notice, most of the melee dps, have a skill for get close... dragoon have jump, monk have shoulder tackle and ninja have the teleportation. since she seems to be a fighter a classical charge make sense.

you see it's easy to point your fact as not valid and counter them.... do that make me right? maybe, do that make you wrong? maybe, until we have an official statement. say with absolute that she is a monk.... is wrong as much than saying she is a dancer. most of us have said she did look like one. because she is too far from the monk.

when you have play a looooooooot of time with monk you can see it from the first move she use. everything she do scream not monk

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Originally Posted by Xiao_

this is absolutely valid and honestly the best argument against. a lot of things happen in cutscenes that we will never have the opportunity to do

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That's why I posted that two pages ago :

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

You might want to study some tropes. ;-)

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Uh, yes, it's a Dancer.

If any of you actually watched the trailer closely, you could easily draw the conclusion. If you watch the trailer again at 0.25x speed when they start fighting, a long red sleeve comes out her gauntlet as she swipes down on him. Also you'll notice a "Golden" line as well which would be the hidden blade. In FF Tactics Dancers used "Cloth" as a weapon or dagger in other instances, this incorporates both. Some people say "Oh but she's using Monk moves", Dancer is a subclass from Monk, duh. Others speculate "Red Mage" being released because Yoshida said something about Scarlet Witch. Obviously it's not a coincidence that the chakra of said dancer is "Red". Yoshida could be playing mind games.

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Originally Posted by EtherRose

Uh, yes, it's a Dancer.


If any of you actually watched the trailer closely, you could easily draw the conclusion. If you watch the trailer again at 0.25x speed when they start fighting, a long red sleeve comes out her gauntlet as she swipes down on him. Also you'll notice a "Golden" line as well which would be the hidden blade. In FF Tactics Dancers used "Cloth" as a weapon or dagger in other instances, this incorporates both. Some people say "Oh but she's using Monk moves", Dancer is a subclass from Monk, duh. Others speculate "Red Mage" being released because Yoshida said something about Scarlet Witch. Obviously it's not a coincidence that the chakra of said dancer is "Red". Yoshida could be playing mind games.

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I watched the trailer closely and a drew the conclusion that it's a PUG or a MNK. Reposted from another thread:

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Originally Posted by Dement

Other than the costume, I don't think anything in the CS screams Dancer. When they start their battle, she takes the same stance as the WoL MNK. They trade blow for blow, perfectly countering each other. At 1:22 the sound effect indicates that she did Howling Fist before the WoL (whose hand is surrounded by wind) throws a punch that does the exact same sound effect. The only thing the trailer indicates to me is that the WoL is a terrible MNK. He uses Fists of Wind at the end and she uses Fists of Fire like a good MNK.

Edit: at 1:53 https://youtu.be/mAobb8_SzHY?t=113, she even throws a knee which looks almost exactly like the iconic image of the MNK concept art: http://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/me...oncept_art.jpg

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Yoshida didn't say anything about Scarlet Witch, he wore a Scarlet Witch shirt during the keynote at Fan Fest. Last NA Fanfest, he wore a Batman shirt (Dark Knight) and at the EU Fanfest he wore a 007 shirt (Machinist). So there is precedence that his shirts are usually clues so grasping at Red Mage isn't all that difficult. Meanwhile there is no precedence that trailers have ever hinted at a new job. The Heavensward trailer showed Dragoons... and that's it.

As for her chakra being "red", if only there were moves already in the game which would make them glow blue and glow red... something like Fists of Wind and Fists of Fire which are Monk moves.

As for Dancer being a subclass of Monk, they have repeatedly stated that they are trying to move away from the class system. DRK, AST, and MCH don't have base classes the way the original jobs do and I highly doubt they're going to reverse that position.

I agree that Dancer may very well be one of the new jobs but the trailer is not some incredible proof that it's there because she's wearing an outfit which has flowing cloth while performing MNK moves.

Besides, does anyone really want this to be the confirmation for Dancer? A job that's almost identical to MNK but can dance a bit? I'd rather they implement something new and exciting than give us MNK again with altered moves.

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Originally Posted by EtherRose

Uh, yes, it's a Dancer.

If any of you actually watched the trailer closely, you could easily draw the conclusion. If you watch the trailer again at 0.25x speed when they start fighting, a long red sleeve comes out her gauntlet as she swipes down on him. Also you'll notice a "Golden" line as well which would be the hidden blade. In FF Tactics Dancers used "Cloth" as a weapon or dagger in other instances, this incorporates both. Some people say "Oh but she's using Monk moves", Dancer is a subclass from Monk, duh. Others speculate "Red Mage" being released because Yoshida said something about Scarlet Witch. Obviously it's not a coincidence that the chakra of said dancer is "Red". Yoshida could be playing mind games.

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Scarlet being another word for red and witch sort of being interchangeable with magician I personally believe his t-shirt likely hints at Red Mage. Can't know for sure though until new jobs are confirmed by SE. Scarlet Witch and Dancer just doesn't seem to have any connection that I can figure out which is why to me Red Mage seems more likely the hinted job there. I don't really know much about Marvel superheroes cept the well-known X-Men characters. I looked up Scarlet Witch and she was just a mutant that had powers (that can alter reality apparently according to Wikipedia) nothing about dancing or anything like that so.

Red Lady did some strange things in the video that makes me wonder if she is only a MNK, she seems like a MNK but that doesn't mean Dancer isn't a possibility for one of the new jobs. I really think Dancer will only be there if they made 3 new jobs for expac though. Red Mage and Samurai have been hinted at in general and that already takes two of them, but really even though hints were thrown everything is speculation until confirmation. SE could throw a curve ball maybe and do something unexpected. It sadly isn't a Dancer for sure at all though nor is any of the new jobs 100% confirmed.

Red Mage or Dancer or both I can't wait to play them anyway! I love when they add new jobs @.@

Eh, her "dancing" just looks like she's practicing martial arts forms to me, and she pretty clearly goes full MNK once they start sparring. The cloth weapon thing could be NPC exclusive, or it could be a new MNK weapon, or maybe she really is a Dancer. Who knows?

All we do know is that SE is keeping a tight lid on it for now and we can only speculate.

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Originally Posted by EtherRose

Uh, yes, it's a Dancer.

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As an aside, unless you're the SE employee that personally coded Dancer into the game and have incontrovertible evidence for Dancer's existence, you may want to refrain from coming off so condescendingly.

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Originally Posted by Dement

Besides, does anyone really want this to be the confirmation for Dancer? A job that's almost identical to MNK but can dance a bit? I'd rather they implement something new and exciting than give us MNK again with altered moves.

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This for days. This was my entire point when I first posted.

Although I will say Redmage has been all but officially announced. Yoshi has said several times they wanted more casters in the game throughout development and the shirt hint is his trademark (I wonder how he goes about it :P).

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Originally Posted by Dement

I watched the trailer closely and a drew the conclusion that it's a PUG or a MNK. Reposted from another thread:


As for Dancer being a subclass of Monk, they have repeatedly stated that they are trying to move away from the class system. DRK, AST, and MCH don't have base classes the way the original jobs do and I highly doubt they're going to reverse that position.

I agree that Dancer may very well be one of the new jobs but the trailer is not some incredible proof that it's there because she's wearing an outfit which has flowing cloth while performing MNK moves.

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The trailer screams it's a Dancer. Want Proof? The weapon is the proof. AkA "Dancing Dagger" which of course only Dancer's use. This is in plain sight with her gauntlet in the stormblood logo and hintly in the fight when the cloth protracts from her gauntlet and the Dagger is hidden in it.

Also here. http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Aveng...ter-69426.html

There's your "Scarlet Witch Dancer", i win. *cough*

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Originally Posted by EtherRose

The trailer screams it's a Dancer. Want Proof? The weapon is the proof. AkA "Dancing Dagger" which of course only Dancer's use. This is in plain sight with her gauntlet in the stormblood logo and hintly in the fight when the cloth protracts from her gauntlet and the Dagger is hidden in it.

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Yet in the trailer most of her offensive strikes are martial arts style hand and feet strikes and almost all of the readily identifiable moves are existing Monk or Pugilist moves. Even the bouncing, "dance" type move she does during the break in combat looks like Featherfoot. So we're arguing that she's Dancer because she uses one strike which might be construed to have a blade, out of the 20 or so moves that she performs, the remainder all being more akin to Monk.

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Originally Posted by Dement

Besides, does anyone really want this to be the confirmation for Dancer? A job that's almost identical to MNK but can dance a bit? I'd rather they implement something new and exciting than give us MNK again with altered moves.

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ermm almost every melee work the same, outside a small gimmick, in the case of the monk you can jump from a combo to another at will and must continue all the time for get buff, for ninja you have the combo system fixed and the ninjutsu, for the dragoon we do have the combo system fixed and the jump mechanic.

if she use a new type of gimmick interestant why not. you are there saying she look like a monk, because she will fight at melee.... but honestly every melee dps are similar...

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Originally Posted by Dement

Yet in the trailer most of her offensive strikes are martial arts style hand and feet strikes and almost all of the readily identifiable moves are existing Monk or Pugilist moves. Even the bouncing, "dance" type move she does during the break in combat looks like Featherfoot. So we're arguing that she's Dancer because she uses one strike which might be construed to have a blade, out of the 20 or so moves that she performs, the remainder all being more akin to Monk.

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Which might? It's in the Logo, lol. Also the Link i gave with Yoshida hinting Scarlet Witch, Dancer. Lol.

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

ermm almost every melee work the same, outside a small gimmick, in the case of the monk you can jump from a combo to another at will and must continue all the time for get buff, for ninja you have the combo system fixed and the ninjutsu, for the dragoon we do have the combo system fixed and the jump mechanic.

if she use a new type of gimmick interestant why not. you are there saying she look like a monk, because she will fight at melee.... but honestly every melee dps are similar...

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While the game play is the same, aesthetically they are completely different. Monk moves do not look the same as Dragoon moves and Ninja moves. Aesthetically in the trailer, their move set looks almost identical.

Been digging around (haven't red most of this thread) so I dunno if this has been posted yet.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Arylon

http://www.sullla.com/FF/Dancer/arylon.jpg

There's a very distinct connection from the original Final Fantasy and a direct correlation to the woman in the red dress in Stormblood, and they both have blonde hair. Coincidence?

give me the difference please....
i will be blunt, since they have forced the combo system in every melee, it's difficult to get a huge difference.
the biggest difference is in the combo lenght, in the dragoon you have a very long cycle, when the monk is smaller and are more flexible (even if you want to reach the highest dps, you have a cycle quite fixed actually)

you will do your combo, placing skill out of GCD between weaponskill of your combo. moving for the right position (if you try to reach the best dps)

yeah we have another difference, is the speed between skill for the monk, is possible to reach below 1.9 gcd with the monk when a drg will be at best at 2.2.... outside this, we do have 2 DoT to place on the target, 2 main combo (one on the side and one on the back)
one skill that reduce the defense againsst our type of damage. the monk did get the meditation, where the dragoon did get the dragonblood, for the monk is a skill kinda hard to place, that will be charged when you can't fight. the dragoon can keep the dragonblood up the longuest possible passing him combo from 3 weapon skill at 4 weapon skill.

but in the absolute the two class play the same way, the difference lie in a few gimmick and a cycle that differe.... but if you look at the jobs in globality the difference are not that much.

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Originally Posted by Awful

Been digging around (haven't red most of this thread) so I dunno if this has been posted yet.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Arylon

http://www.sullla.com/FF/Dancer/arylon.jpg

There's a very distinct connection from the original Final Fantasy and a direct correlation to the woman in the red dress in Stormblood, and they both have blonde hair. Coincidence?

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Lol, a big Coincidence. I keep saying it's Dancer but everybody is like no it's a Monk. While Yoshida hinted at "Scarlet Witch" (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Aveng...ter-69426.html), everybody thinks it's a Red Mage later on and it's 2 Monks. Nope, It's a Monk and a Dancer.

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Originally Posted by EtherRose

Which might? It's in the Logo, lol. Also the Link i gave with Yoshida hinting Scarlet Witch, Dancer. Lol.

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The logo and the trailer are two different things and at no point do you actively see a blade. She performs one strike which has a yellow trail which might be construed to have a hidden blade. All other strikes are fists and feet, period, this is factual.

Also you never posted a link and I can't even imagine the lengths you have to go to to link Scarlet Witch with Dancer instead of Red Mage.

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Originally Posted by Dement

The logo and the trailer are two different things and at no point do you actively see a blade. She performs one strike which has a yellow trail which might be construed to have a hidden blade. All other strikes are fists and feet, period, this is factual.

Also you never posted a link and I can't even imagine the lengths you have to go to to link Scarlet Witch with Dancer instead of Red Mage.

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http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Aveng...ter-69426.html

So do i win yet?

Scarlet = Red
Witch = Mage

Dancer? LOL Wow, wishful thinking much?

At this point, I'm going to say it's distinctly ambiguous. However, I'm leaning toward MNK simply because it would be such an overwhelming reveal of dancer at the NA fanfest, and they DON'T announce new jobs at the NA Fanfest.

However, I said already and will say again. WHY would you WANT a DNC that could be so easily mistaken for a MNK? It's not distinct enough and it's like a MNK clone aesthetically. Lame. I hope if DNC is revealed they will make it much more unique.

Well, i wonder what some people see....

To me those things are obvious:

• Exact same battle-pose before the fight starts (#1m08s), which is pretty similar (but different) to standard monk weapon drawn stance.
• The male does a forward leap punch.
  The female blocks, does a move which is pretty similar to part of monk's /bstance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xswDRz2DHPQ) and then counter's with the exact same move.
• another set of mirrored moves (#1m40s)
• no actual "fluid" attacks, but things like a devastating "knee strike" and then (again) a mirrored kick.
• Both have a chakra aura, both finish with a full-charged leap to each other (again, mirrored).
• She uses a weapon. But Raubahn (Gladiator) uses two swords. Papalymo wears plate gauntlets. Ida and Papalymo combine their powers for a final flare attack.
  Those things define npc characters. And Monks use bladed weapons attached to their hands, too, anyway. To have a weapon model with just one hand bladed isn't impossible at all.

Besides, so far monks has been described as the non-plus-ultra regarding hand-2-hand combat. Even to the point they almost got wiped out by the Garleans.

So unless

• there a third faction in Ala Mi'gho rivaling the 2 known monk factions regarging hand-2-hand combat
• dancer is as much focussed on all-out-attacks as monk (not more evasive or distractive)
• dancers most used attacks have nothing to do with actually dancing
• dancer is another job of pugilist, which also utilizes chakra (which would be kinda lame) ... (and only working if new jobs get actually a base class).
  But then we have seen nothing which is worth considering as an dancer "job ability". Just /dance isn't one.

there is no dancer in this teaser. If they tell us they go back to double-job classes then I will reconsider this.

But so far... nope, that's a monk, who moves like a monk and punches/kicks like a monk, uses chakra like a monk and danced for unknown reasons about 10s.
Maybe to hint dancer as a possible new class in 4.x, but sure not to make her a dancer.

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http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Aveng...ter-69426.html

So do i win yet?

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Fine, I'll bite. From your own article: "In Joss Whedon’s The Avengers: Age of Ultron, we can surely expect to see characters like Iron Man, Thor, Hulk and Captain America getting into fisticuffs with various henchmen and bad guys, but action sequences will be a very different deal when Elizabeth Olsen’s Scarlet Witch is involved. After all, she is more of a spell-caster than a punch-thrower." Your own straw grasping isn't necessarily on your side.

Do I win yet?

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Originally Posted by Dement

Fine, I'll bite. From your own article: "In Joss Whedon’s The Avengers: Age of Ultron, we can surely expect to see characters like Iron Man, Thor, Hulk and Captain America getting into fisticuffs with various henchmen and bad guys, but action sequences will be a very different deal when Elizabeth Olsen’s Scarlet Witch is involved. After all, she is more of a spell-caster than a punch-thrower." Your own straw grasping isn't necessarily on your side.

Do I win yet?

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You do realize Dancers are able to cast spells as well right? Lol.

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Originally Posted by EtherRose

You do realize Dancers are able to cast spells as well right? Lol.

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You do realize that most Dancers, in fact, don't cast spells right? Penelo is the most notable exception.

But maybe you're right, maybe when deciding how best to drop a hint on a job by wearing a shirt, the team decided that instead of taking the most logical interpretation, they would reference one article about one piece of work that involves the Scarlet Witch. Then they didn't bother to read that article enough to the 4th sentence where it says she isn't a punch-thrower... but still that's how they were going to tease their Dancer which throws so many punches that most people think it's a monk. This doesn't even take into account that they said Red Mage was among the highest priority for the dev team during the Rising Event of 2015.

Whoo! 16 pages and still going! Is she a Dancer?

Yes
+Her dress is, perhaps, a telling hint
+The hint dropped during the Posing Rangers event
+She's "dancing" when we first see her
+She seems to be utilizing kicks more than punches -- perhaps a DNC's main mode of attack?
+A blade at the end of her ribbon

No
-Her "dance" is not a "dance," but a martial arts form*
-She uses MNK abilities in the teaser
-Her arm blade is a MNK weapon
-She's rumored to be Yda, who is a Pugilist (or MNK)
-Ala Mhigo is likely a homeland for monks

*I practice martial arts, and I, as well as anyone else who practices martial arts, I assume, do not see myself as a "dancer" when I practice a slow-moving form; therefore, I don't treat it like a dance.

ITT: If it walks like a monk, talks like a monk, does tai-chi-esque martial arts movements like a monk, punches like a monk, kicks like a monk, chakras like a monk but wears a pretty dress, then it must be a friggin' Dancer

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Originally Posted by Crysten

ITT: If it walks like a monk, talks like a monk, does tai-chi-esque martial arts movements like a monk, punches like a monk, kicks like a monk, chakras like a monk but wears a pretty dress, then it must be a friggin' Dancer

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Originally Posted by Crysten

ITT: If it walks like a monk, talks like a monk, does tai-chi-esque martial arts movements like a monk, punches like a monk, kicks like a monk, chakras like a monk but wears a pretty dress, then it must be a friggin' Dancer

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QFT

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Originally Posted by Awful

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Arylon

http://www.sullla.com/FF/Dancer/arylon.jpg

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Whether or not the lady in the trailer was a DNC aside, I just remembered something. SE loves to use their franchises as much as they can, like with Biggs and Wedge being in plenty of FF games, as well as Cid. Suppose that name, Arylon could actually be the name of the lady in the teaser? Or, maybe more of a stretch, what if Yda is not Yda's real name... but it's Arylon? Princess Arylon?

The T-shirt Yoshi had on was the hint for Red mage, not the lady in red that is a Monk, lol
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