I really hope you are the one trolling us now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyson
dumb argument is dumb
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06-19-2015, 12:45 AMNyxa75
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06-19-2015, 12:46 AMAraminaHonest question: What company reimburses for scheduled maintenance?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyson
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06-19-2015, 12:46 AMKyoushaThey were just comparing the situation to that of a Big Gulp-size drink having one sip less. Nothing to do with price, just the ridiculousness of the OPs statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyson
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06-19-2015, 12:48 AMSanjuroXI
Only tI'm I seen SE compensate time is when that earthquake hit a few years back in japan. Why would they compensate maintenance though that's what you pay them for to mantain this game.
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06-19-2015, 12:48 AMNyxa75
done with the troll bait, clearly they are doing this to keep busy during the extended down time
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06-19-2015, 12:49 AMMhikail
I can't believe this is still on-going. Lately a lot of topics where the OP is long gone within 3 posts
and people then begin to mob at each other.
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06-19-2015, 12:52 AMAramina^ Exactly. The pricing was in reference to the comparison of cable for a day to FF for a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyousha
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06-19-2015, 12:55 AMChukkaqueThis wasn't down time due to someone compromising the server or gameplay. This is normal schedule maintainence for the game. But it's rather large this time since it's adding an expansion. I can't believe this is even a thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Akulious
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06-19-2015, 12:59 AMKelzack
I wouldn't mind if they order me some pizza. :X
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06-19-2015, 01:11 AMPlaneswalkerEvery other game I play including F2P games. Blizzard/WoW has added at least 5 days in the past year due to downtime. Even FREE games like Marvel Heroes gives compensation for longer than normal downtime by giving 100% bonus drop/XP weekends or vanity pets. This is the only game I play with such a hateful community when it comes to stuff like this, it's embarrassing reading the posts when the OP probably came from almost any other game out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aramina
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06-19-2015, 01:14 AMMaero
wow someone feels priviledged
I Pre-ordered HW and was to get early access but due to maintenance probably will not have it but big deal...
I will just do real life stuff in the meantime, surely you can wait a few days?
And to the poster talking about companies offering compensation for downtime... it's a day or 2 max, it's not like we will be 2 weeks without access -
06-19-2015, 01:17 AMTawmWhich we have paid for, and will continue doing so to access said content.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignnis
I'd like those 24 hours added to my gametime next month. -
06-19-2015, 01:18 AMKitano123World of Tanks often provides free days of premium sub for downtime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aramina
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06-19-2015, 01:18 AMHypieLaughed hard at this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tawm
No you won't get that Downtime back. Read the damn EULA before you agree to it. -
06-19-2015, 01:19 AMMrsFluffyButt
Wanna know what ya' should of done, kiddo?
Kick that sub into action after patch day! -
06-19-2015, 01:21 AMGysonI doubt any. However, now we're getting into the area of what constitutes reasonable downtime. If they announced the servers would be down for a week, does that mean nobody should ask about reimbursement because it's "scheduled"? Exactly how long is too long? For you it may be a month, for someone else it's a day. Neither is right nor wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aramina
Blizzard, for example, will say X hours. But then problems crop up that cause the downtime to be much longer than planned, or cause emergency maintenance soon after (something that may very well happen here). That is usually what leads to compensation for downtime being issued (even though it's not required).
Obviously it's safer for developers to pad their estimate, which is fine as long as they're trying their best to get it as done as quickly as possible. It doesn't suck if questions about downtime compensation eventually lead to a developer reevaluating their procedures and finding ways to shorten their maintenance periods. To read the responses in this thread though one would think we should all just roll along with everything because room for improvement doesn't exist. -
06-19-2015, 01:26 AMCirgellon
Ahh, the ramblings of a 12 year old... Next we will hear about how these kids are contacting lawyers and bringing lawsuits as they find out that they get nothing. It's all too predictable as these kids make a big deal out of this stuff in every game forum there is.
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06-19-2015, 01:30 AMAvalon_AlbrookYou do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Akulious
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06-19-2015, 01:31 AMTawmIt was a joke. Not that I've ever read an EULA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypie
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06-19-2015, 01:33 AMMeleoffsWorld of Tanks is also a free to play game and don't require people to sign a EULA that explicitly states that they won't give reimbursement for downtime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kitano123
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06-19-2015, 01:50 AMChukkaque"Longer than normal" 24 hours is a pretty understandable downtime for an entire expansion update.Quote:
Originally Posted by Planeswalker
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06-19-2015, 01:56 AMLambLichExcept that was only done after the game was in a totally unstable state for the first week of the expansion launch(hello being stuck in the floor for 3 days), nothing at all to do with pre expansion maintenance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Planeswalker
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06-19-2015, 02:00 AMAraminaI had a feeling you were going to mention Blizzard. For the record though, Blizzard has never -ever- reimbursed gametime for SCHEDULED maintenance. They have only given it for extreme extensions and/or unplayability of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Planeswalker
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06-19-2015, 02:02 AMKhemorex
lol ok lets do some math :P
u pay around 14 € for 30 days playtime soooo 14/30 = 0,4666 .
So you want a compensation for 0,436666 Cent? how about a lolipop or a bonbon :P -
06-19-2015, 02:19 AMPlaneswalkerThey have also never scheduled 24 hours of maintenance. Doesn't bother me either way, I'm doing RBGs on Wow on my other monitor as I type this (yay for being on defense) plus I still need to go to the gym today. Only reason I posted is against the toxic community here since the OP probably came from a different game; I mean did we really need 150 posts flaming the guy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aramina
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06-19-2015, 02:22 AMTwilite
I consider it compensation if I'm allowed to play when the maintenance is over.
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06-19-2015, 02:23 AMAraminaFair enough. Though, for WoD launch they probably should have gone ahead and schedule 4-7 days of maintenance so I didn't continually torture myself attempting to play on a high pop server. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Planeswalker
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06-19-2015, 02:25 AMAbleQuote:
Originally Posted by Planeswalker
Every forum for every game ever treats people this way. The OP asked a question with a fairly obvious answer. And, he got flamed for it. I don't agree with it. But, it's also completely unsurprising. -
06-19-2015, 02:27 AMXanikk999
I haven't seen a 24 hour maintenence in any MMO I played before this one. Are they actually doing work during that full 24 hour maintenence? Even in other MMOs expansions 24 hours was not normal for a maintenence window.
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06-19-2015, 02:30 AMAraminaI have never seen 24h maintenance either. HOWEVER, every expansion I have been a part of (which there are a number of), there were days/weeks of bugs/lag/disconnects/crashes/restarts/more maintenance/etc that added up, imho, to way more than 24h of unplayability. If they can get EVERYTHING done in 24h and I can play the way I did prior the xpac then I am good with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xanikk999
Note: I, in no way, realistically expect perfection even after 24 hours, but I do feel the longer maintenance will curb some of the post-xpac woes experienced by other titles. -
06-19-2015, 02:31 AMAlistaire
Wait, the ToS actually has an inclusion for "acts of Bahamut"? That (alone) made this worth the read.
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06-19-2015, 02:31 AMPlaneswalkerI just didn't play WoW for the first week of WoD, played SW:ToR during that mess. Just like if HW is a hot mess I wont complain and play some WoW, or go to the Zoo since I haven't been in a while. But I won't come on here and flame people for asking (to them) an honest question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aramina
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06-19-2015, 02:32 AMAble
I have no issue with the length of the maintenance. Wouldn't care if it was even two or three days. There are other things I can do besides play this game. I also won't be participating in the guaranteed rage thread for people who can't login at 5am EDT tomorrow, even though every MMO ever encounters capacity issues at the launch of any major expansion.
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06-19-2015, 02:33 AMKaedan94
Umm... no. It's scheduled maintenance. Reimbursement is only done for unannounced, emergency maintenance for some MMOs. It isn't done at all for FFXIV... mainly because they don't do surprise maintenance.
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06-19-2015, 02:34 AMAraminaI don't disagree. I try not to flame, but I have been a part of the "MMO community" long enough to accept that forums, for whatever reason, bring out the nasty in a lot of people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Planeswalker
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06-19-2015, 02:43 AMEdellis........Quote:
Originally Posted by Akulious
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06-19-2015, 02:44 AMXanikk999
So do you think they maybe put up that notice of 24 hours with the knowledge that they will probably get done faster? It does say in the launcher that end time is subject to change. Is it likely they will be done several hours early? Maybe? I'm really hoping to play tonight.
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06-19-2015, 02:45 AMAramina
Were it just a normal patch, perhaps. For an expansion though (when people have likely "arranged" their rl to accomodate it) I doubt they would bring it up early even if it *was* done.
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06-19-2015, 02:46 AMWhiteroom
Why people! Why.....
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06-19-2015, 02:47 AMAramina
Because it is not 5am EST. Isn't that obvious? :P