Yo who can't buy a house?

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Originally Posted by SilverDjinn

Economic horror i guess the person mean difficult to make gil as on adamantoise the prices are sinking that low its not worth making stuff for example raptor leather is less than 700g, alumen is less than 300g, black alumen used to be 800g and is now 250g etc

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What about the finished raptor leather pieces? If those are only 2-3K for NQ then the prices sound right for razor thin profits.

SE's original housing price formula took into account that gil was harder to come by on some servers; when housing was first released, a small house on Lamia was around 2 million gil, which was easily doable by our small free company of a dozen. Large houses were 30 million gil, which only the biggest FCs were able to afford (and a gilbuyer in one case, who was caught and the FC house was lost since it was purchased with ill gotten gains.) However, Lamia's population quadrupled over the last year, making us one of the fattest, youngest servers, kicking us up a level in housing prices. Unlike Balmung, however, housing didn't sell out immediately. We had houses available until just the last few months.

In the case of Masamune, the economy is in bad shape because a few dozen players have many many many millions of gil, but don't participate in the economy. So Masamune got put into the highest housing bracket from the beginning, and all the sprouts and non-rich players are left squabbling over the scraps. (Sort of like the US economy these days.)

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Originally Posted by SilverDjinn

Economic horror i guess the person mean difficult to make gil as on adamantoise the prices are sinking that low its not worth making stuff for example raptor leather is less than 700g, alumen is less than 300g, black alumen used to be 800g and is now 250g etc

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That's really not an economic horror..
Even on Jenova, server with arguably most inflated prices on stuff don't get that kind of price...

It's really hard to get more than about 30-40k for a stack of gathered mats.. Unless they're really high tier, but even then.. it's usually only the 4 star mats that fetch a price over 1000.

What you're hitting is not an economic horror, you've just been in a huge economic bubble this whole time.

On the topic of masamune...I'm curious about that...

Glamour prisms don't even sell well?

Masamune is a server where the very very rich, whoever they are in there, don't participate in the economy. They might not even be around, honestly; it's a legacy server. So the server population deals with very low prices, but it's categorized as a server where people are rich as hell so housing prices are sky high. Nothing sells well enough to make enough money for what housing is categorized as.

Oh someone said that already.

I'd like to see new residential areas with a different layout and plot size ratio. Given I'm on Gilgamesh, so there's more money, but still, each district has a couple unused entrances please make them go somewhere else.

Lich, dead server with no plots left. Figures, right?

SO

Post Heavensward, there seems to have been a bit of a pop boom on some places. Any NEEW places where you can't buy plots?

Zodiark went from having plenty of plots (of all types) to having only a few medium and large plots available. Oddly more medium houses available then large.

So Zodiark: No plots of a certain type.

What they need to do is prevent any alts from another account to buy a house in ishguard. That's was the big problem in the original warding areas besides inactive accounts.

behemoth no longer has any plots currently

Cool! Great! Good to hear things are getting better for everyone!

^~^ this deserves a bump.

Cerberus has a few houses available in Lavender beds, only small though, and 2 in mist last i checked, not sure about the Thanalan area, but it's pretty bad right now.

Waiting for one in Mist on Tonberry

Haven't seen any plots on Coerl for less than around 12 mil. Feels bad.

There's several purchased, yet empty plots in Excalibur. It's ridiculous.

and FYI: People selling plots (Or technically, selling to relinquish the plot, so that the person can purchase the plot) does not equal to housings being available, are you mad? Which by the way, that in itself is bullcrap.

Of course it's not mad to you (those claiming that housing are "available"), because you have a house, and they don't, so how dare they claim they can't buy the house, because they just weren't lucky enough to buy the empty plots and you could.

This really, really needs to be fixed, and adding new wards is but a temporary band aid solution. Something needs to be done about the houses/plots that's been abandoned.

There were a few here and there on Mateus for roughly 2mil, but I decided to hold off, my dream is a house in Ishgard. I'm willing to hold off and wait until that opens up.

Wish they'd actually clear some of these out and take them from people. I miss having neighbors in Mist on Behemoth. As of late, the adjacent two FCs are dead, and the members that own them moved into other free companies and just leave an alternative character in charge of each, logging in maybe once a week, if that.

So alone :<

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Originally Posted by Laerad3993

Wish they'd actually clear some of these out and take them from people. I miss having neighbors in Mist on Behemoth. As of late, the adjacent two FCs are dead, and the members that own them moved into other free companies and just leave an alternative character in charge of each, logging in maybe once a week, if that.

So alone :<

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They initially planned that if the FC does not use the house/plot, they will lose the plot/house and it will be up for purchase once more.

Of course so many people bitched against it and SE changed their mind.

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Originally Posted by Suirieko

They initially planned that if the FC does not use the house/plot, they will lose the plot/house and it will be up for purchase once more.

Of course so many people bitched against it and SE changed their mind.

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That's unfortunate. I know maybe 7-8 FC houses that are dead in my ward, and I believe 3 in the personal housing district of a few wards in Mist. I haven't been to the Goblet or LB, but I find it a little ridiculous people spend the money and then just up and abandon the plots. I know one house in Mist has been abandoned for a good year since I moved into my spot. Hopefully they reconsider in the future.

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Originally Posted by Laerad3993

That's unfortunate. I know maybe 7-8 FC houses that are dead in my ward, and I believe 3 in the personal housing district of a few wards in Mist. I haven't been to the Goblet or LB, but I find it a little ridiculous people spend the money and then just up and abandon the plots. I know one house in Mist has been abandoned for a good year since I moved into my spot. Hopefully they reconsider in the future.

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There's an empty, unbuilt plot that someone have purchased couple of houses away, which has been empty for about a year.

My FC used to have a small house in Mist, and the houses next to us were never used, never furnished.

Well, I'm from [Sargatanas] and there are no plots left http://www.indoforum.org/images/smilies/py/32.gif

Game Economy is quite stable so far.. http://www.indoforum.org/images/smilies/py/41.gif

I only hope that when they implement the EU data center, they do a little server housekeeping and allow us one free server transfer. literally all they would need to do is put a superficial tag next to the server names (PvP ) (PvE) (RP) then you wouldnt have players unofficially labelling one or two servers then all those players flock to those servers. Had I known Balmung was going to have housing issues like this I never would have merged here from Fabul in 1.0

I think every server will have these issues soon. There's turnover in the game, and no way to evict and no addition of plots in any speedy way. It's inevitable that housing will run out everywhere, it's just a matter of time.

After scrounging up the money for a house on Leviathan (about 4m for a fifth class plot), I find I can't get one due to all the housing being taken.

Malboro sold out everywhere for months now, people relinquish small houses for around 10M, medium for 50-60M and large houses are relinquished for 300M+. i dont know how many plots will be added in the next residential district but i can already tell everything will be sold in the first hour after the patch.

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Originally Posted by Laerad3993

That's unfortunate. I know maybe 7-8 FC houses that are dead in my ward, and I believe 3 in the personal housing district of a few wards in Mist. I haven't been to the Goblet or LB, but I find it a little ridiculous people spend the money and then just up and abandon the plots. I know one house in Mist has been abandoned for a good year since I moved into my spot. Hopefully they reconsider in the future.

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This wouldn't be a problem if it was fully instanced/phased and there wasn't a limited supply.

I'm from Shinryu (Mana Data Center). No plot left here.

No plots left on Exodus.

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Originally Posted by Verdan

I would apologize for being a downer, but considering every class is sure it's dead post xpack already I won't. At least the thing I'm talking about is real.

I'm making a list of servers where housing is impossible to get, because I feel it might be actually a p wide spread problem. If you are on a server where, due to all plots being gone or horrendous economic nightmares, you can't get a house, please respond and I'll update the OP.

NO PLOTS
-Balmung
-Excalibur
-Brynhildr
-Hyperion
-Cerberus
-Gilgamesh
-Famfrit
-Leviathan
-Ragnarok
-Lamia
-Pheonix
-Lich
-Moogle
-Behemoth
-Diabolos
-Sargatanas

NO PLOTS OF A CERTAIN TYPE
-Zodiark
-Midgardsormr
-Ultros(?)
-Cerberus
-Tonberry

ECONOMIC HORRORS
-Masamune

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Not only does Sargatanas have no empty lots, period, but sadly, well over half the paltry number of 1440 lots are now individual player owned, not FC owned!!

I appreciate every update given, and my thinking's looking pretty solid here. Housing plots all being taken is a fairly common problem on servers, not a relatively rare one.

Barely any left on Adamantoise as well.. Sorry if it has been stated before.

At this point, the best that we can hope for is maybe make instanced housing. Maybe make it so it's Data-center wide instances (like dungeons, PvP, etc) than doing on individual servers?

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Originally Posted by RosaBlanche

Malboro sold out everywhere for months now, people relinquish small houses for around 10M, medium for 50-60M and large houses are relinquished for 300M+. i dont know how many plots will be added in the next residential district but i can already tell everything will be sold in the first hour after the patch.

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And this is the crux of the problem with Gating content behind a wall of first-come-first-served. I would love to garden, colour my choco, and participate in the FC crafting and airship coming but alas, I fear it will be eternally out of reach for many of the players. As long as Personal Housing is a limited quantity, many paying players will never get to experience what is becoming a bigger and bigger portion of content.

Could you imagine if Alexander was structured this way? We have enough instances of Alexander normal for about 24% of the playerbase per server. Once those people have unlocked it, no one else can enter it until they give up their license to enter it. It will not ever be relinquished if a players subscription becomes dormant (hey, they might come back) and if you are lucky we might add in more licenses eventually.

FC houses are ok like this but Personal houses should never have shared the same space. SE needs to fix this before adding in ANY more content linked to housing. Wada would be on his ass over this, or maybe its why he left...

Zodiark no longer has any plots.

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Originally Posted by RinKaen

"I'm making a list of servers where housing is impossible to get."
Then your list should be empty, because it's not impossible to get houses. just because you don't want to pay extra to get a house doesn't mean there is no housing.

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The point.

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SE mentioned they will be adding more plots in soon

Its a pity SE did not simply go with instanced plots of land for personal housing, and leave the current non-instanced 1440 lots exclusively for FCs. Then everyone could have their garden and stable but would need to belong to an FC with a house in order to have a workshop and benefit from FC actions.

As I stated the other day in another thread about this: I honestly think there needs to be a 60 day abandoned property limit on houses. Especially on high populated servers. If a home owner / FC is offline for 60 days, the property is flagged as abandoned and put up for resale. If they log back in after 60 days, they can go to the housing guy and get their housing items back, but they are S.O.L. for the property. If you want to maintain ownership of the property: keep an active account and log in at least once every two months. This would be a big step toward solving the housing issue, speed up the turn over rate, lessen the need for many many many wards.

I have a feeling you're going to hate me, but, I came back to the game with under 50,000 gil about a week and a half ago. I was the ONLY player that had logged on in my FC for like 4(?) months and automatically became the FC leader. I booted the people who never logged back in after a week and now I am the sole member of Mercenaries on Excalibur with my private FC home :O

I guess I got lucky*