Repair NPCs in Dungeons

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Originally Posted by Lexia

How about if SE just added the option of other players that did level their crafts to be able to repair your gear while inside dungeon like they can their own? Would that make you happy or still demand a NPC to do it?

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He'd complain because he'd still need to carry Darkmatter in order to get repairs, like you need Carbonized Matter to get melds done.

We could always do away with durability, and do what ANOTHER MMO did, and have you lose experience when you KO :P if you want stuff from other mmos added to fix this durability problem.

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Originally Posted by Adire

The short answer?

Because some of them drop so freaking often, there's no sense in even discarding them.

I may as well keep inventory slots devoted to bone chips with how often they end up in my inventory.

If the game had a loot filter or something (another thing a previous MMO I played had), it would alleviate the problem some.



I ask for a simple QoL feature all players could benefit from and say that depriving non-crafters of QoL improvements in order to maintain "attraction to crafting" might be a sign that the crafting system in the game might need some work...

...and I'm making unreasonable demands. Okay then....see ya.

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Sounds like you're being a pack rat for no other purpose than so that you can have something to complain about, honestly. Don't need it? Once your done doing whatever gets you that item, go to a vendor npc and sell it. There's no point in you holding it and clogging up your inventory space with useless drops.

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Originally Posted by ArikDimas

The only time I had my gear break on a dungeon, I was running roulettes and kept thinking, I'll repair it after this dungeon, just to instant queue in the next roulette so I couldn't go repair, and then my right side broke during Pharos Sirius normal. Just a question about the other MMO, is it Guild Wars 2? Because they actually removed the cost of repairing gear because even if it was a gold sink, it was largely considered a pointless gold sink by both the staff and community.

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No, it's The Secret World.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

How about if SE just added the option of other players that did level their crafts to be able to repair your gear while inside dungeon like they can their own? Would that make you happy or still demand a NPC to do it?

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That would help some, but you'd still have the very real risk of no one in the group having the particular craft levels needed for your particular gear.

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Originally Posted by PArcher

He'd complain because he'd still need to carry Darkmatter in order to get repairs, like you need Carbonized Matter to get melds done.

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She'd*

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

Sounds like you're being a pack rat for no other purpose than so that you can have something to complain about, honestly. Don't need it? Once your done doing whatever gets you that item, go to a vendor npc and sell it. There's no point in you holding it and clogging up your inventory space with useless drops.

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Incorrect assumption there.

I do get rid of it. The problem is, it finds its way back in quickly much like the plethora of other mob junk drops. See why that's a problem? See why a loot filter MIGHT also be a good idea?

Probably not, since you seem to be one of the people adamant about there not being inventory issues in the game, but I figure I'll still try.

Oh for God's sakes. You people want everything handed over to you don't ya? Why is it so hard to just.. repair your stuff before you go on. It's not that hard.

Or level your crafts.

There's absolutely no reason for there to be repair NPC in dungeons. IT doesn't even make sense! Let's even add a summoning bell while we're at it, so, you know "Just in case I left something in retainers?"

And I thought people demanding to be able to meld materias without having to level crafts was silly...

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Originally Posted by Lexia

How about if SE just added the option of other players that did level their crafts to be able to repair your gear while inside dungeon like they can their own? Would that make you happy or still demand a NPC to do it?

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I would prefer *THAT* Solution considering we used to have that capability in 1.0! You used to be able to set up repair request flag, put up tip, and anyone could repair you on the fly. I miss having that, and that needs to be returned.

And melding request flag could be done the same way.

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Originally Posted by Adire

You don't think people who only have fun with combat

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That's no different than crafters having to rely on combat classes in order to get the materials that they need to craft.

Ummmm...moving away from "level your crafts I don't think it would make sense to have a meander NPC in Nidhogg's lair, the Aery. Wouldn't make sense for them to somehow be in a cave taken over by pirates, invaded by cultists/voidsents, swarmed by Marlboros, taken by hostile angry dragons, in the middle of a warship in the middle of the lake, or in an area that was previously sealed off until seconds before you unlocked it.

If you ask me, I would look yo these menders for guidance cause obviously they're strong af if they are in these areas REPAIRING your ugly clothes.

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Originally Posted by Suirieko

Oh for God's sakes. You people want everything handed over to you don't ya? Why is it so hard to just.. repair your stuff before you go on. It's not that hard.

Or level your crafts.

There's absolutely no reason for there to be repair NPC in dungeons. IT doesn't even make sense! Let's even add a summoning bell while we're at it, so, you know "Just in case I left something in retainers?"

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Fallacies abound here. I shouldn't even bother responding...but here goes.

There's absolutely no reason for there NOT to be repair NPCs in dungeons? Who does it hurt? No one. Who does it help? Potentially everyone.

The only reason people have said is that it would devalue crafting. Again, if the reason denying this tiny QoL improvement that help all players is that it's necessary to keep crafting relevant, I think that says a lot about the state of crafting in the game more than anything else.

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

That's no different than crafters having to rely on combat classes in order to get the materials that they need to craft.

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It's actually very different considering this game is borderline unplayable without doing combat at some point, not to mention combat classes have very limited sources of income outside of materials.

How often do you see pure crafters anyways? I don't know about you, but I can count on one hand the number of people who exclusively craft I've met.

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Originally Posted by Mellaz

Ummmm...moving away from "level your crafts I don't think it would make sense to have a meander NPC in Nidhogg's lair, the Aery. Wouldn't make sense for them to somehow be in a cave taken over by pirates, invaded by cultists/voidsents, swarmed by Marlboros, taken by hostile angry dragons, in the middle of a warship in the middle of the lake, or in an area that was previously sealed off until seconds before you unlocked it.

If you ask me, I would look yo these menders for guidance cause obviously they're strong af if they are in these areas REPAIRING your ugly clothes.

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I've never been in a dungeon where you're attacked as soon as the shield drops, don't know about you. With that in mind, all you have to do is imagine the NPC waits at the entrance while the adventurers prevent mobs from getting to them or something.

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Originally Posted by Adire

I do get rid of it. The problem is, it finds its way back in quickly much like the plethora of other mob junk drops. See why that's a problem? See why a loot filter MIGHT also be a good idea?

Probably not, since you seem to be one of the people adamant about there not being inventory issues in the game, but I figure I'll still try.

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First off, what low level content are you running that you get so much 1gil trash in your inventory? And how is it filling up 100 slots? (not even sure there are 100 different trash drops from mobs in the first place)

You don't craft, so you should have a good 80-90 slots free. What is filling all of those?

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Originally Posted by Adire

Who does it help? Potentially everyone.

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Except it doesn't.

Anyone who repairs their own gear will ignore this 100%, since repairing your own gear is far superior (both in cost and effectiveness) to NPC repairing. And if they add "repair others" (they will eventually), then NPC repairmen will really only be useful to those who don't know about the feature (new players, or those who can't be bothered to read patch notes)


This helps the lazy people, those who can't be bothered to check their gear and/or can't be bothered to level crafters to 50.


I honestly have no idea when I used an NPC to repair my gear last. Probably when they improved self-repairing and I got my last craft to 50.