Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

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Originally Posted by Mesarthim

Wow, I did leveling roulette on tank and got one of the most stuck up healers you could ever get.

So the barrier goes down in aery and the healer stands around for a solid 10+ seconds. I am still waiting for protect. Fairy still isn't out yet (SCH). So I ask: Protect? And a few seconds later: Fairy?. They respond saying "Their bar is messed up" to paraphrase it, profanity was used.

Protect WAS used and we got underway but I didsingle pulls noticing something was wrong. They werent healing me, at all. This didnt kill me until the pulls after the first boss. I even used hallowed ground. They used physick so I know they can use it on me but they never did. Once I die they then use it on the dps monks. I say thusly:

(Me) Some heals would be nice
(Ultros SCH) why when you sassed me b****?
(Me) Sassed? Expecting basic role functions is sassing?

So let me get this straight... Asking for protect and for their fairy is basically giving them a hard time? Expecting a healer to heal is sassing? Are people honestly this stu... oh forget it the answer is yes otherwise it wouldn't happen. Fastest penalty I ever took.

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Why would you leave? vote kick people like that.

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Originally Posted by Deathgiver

On 3 mobs fire 4 is more potency than fire 2 . . .

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I am not sure, I was always told 3 + aoe rotation, regardless that was not the focus of the drama, as I explained the pull after you get the 4 walls they where doing the same thing, and there is around 7? It should also be noted it was very slow and no thunder was used in all 3 cases (first, wall, full pull before boss), 330-340 geared people go faster. Also the BLM did not say anything other then something completely not relating to the situation, so it was assumed trolling.

Assuming it would go through. I tend to have bad luck with pugs a lot of the time and one of the monks was also on their server.

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Originally Posted by Mesarthim

Assuming it would go through. I tend to have bad luck with pugs a lot of the time and one of the monks was also on their server.

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Doesn't hurt to try. If it fails then you can just leave like you would have before, and nothing was lost.

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

Doesn't hurt to try. If it fails then you can just leave like you would have before, and nothing was lost.

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Second this, don't be scared to speak up or attempt to take action.

Yeah I was even encouraged by my FC about that. Food for thought for "next time" I guess.

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Originally Posted by Mesarthim

Assuming it would go through. I tend to have bad luck with pugs a lot of the time and one of the monks was also on their server.

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Look at it this way, the vote kick fails you can still leave. You have nothing to lose by trying.

I got my Lakshmi doggo recently in a lovely clear-turned-farm party in PF. Fond memories.

Got Lakshmi normal in trial roulette - made me think of the pleasant PF and dog acquisition.

We start the fight with no countdown, that's fine. I'm on RDM, I can adapt and this is a level 68 trial so I tell myself to not worry about it. I tank a fair bit of the second add - my first sign we might have same tank issues.

To his credit the new WAR MT seems to realize something is going wrong during the add phase, he proceeds to spam his threat combo in tank stance for the rest of the fight other than reapplying Storm's Eye. The 70 PLD OT though... nothing.

I'm a geared-ish RDM (mix of 350/360) and a not-bad one at that - I literally can't stay out of second place in threat. Diversion drops me down temporarily but I still hardly ever avoid the OT cleave. I bait it away like a good OT, I raise both healers and my other RDM, I put out what was good enough damage to hold second in threat aaaaaand at the end...

... the PLD gives me sass for my threat. "RDM dont expect tanks to spam threat combos to save you manage your hate" he said before leaving.

Um... huh?

I will admit in the beginning of the fight I popped Lucid to get the add off of me so I didn't get much enmity management from that but I was using Diversion before every melee combo that it was up for. The tank was in around i300, easily undergeared by comparison but not to the point that he couldn't have held second against me if he had tried.

I don't mean to devalue tank dps - I'm a healer who understands and enjoys contributing damage as a support class - but I doubt whatever that PLD was putting out was enough to offset me dying even once to that psuedo-tankbuster. If he cared so much about optimization (again in a level 68 trial) then why would he risk my dps that he could tell was significant for the sake of his own?

Ugh. This is when I get annoyed with the 'meta'. When people who have no business caring about it want to use it as an excuse for their own poor play.

Figured that I might as well share this since I'm here. Went for another clear on V7S (I have a really bad happen about being stubborn, still trying to get my first clear a month later in PUGs). This was on Tuesday, prime time for experienced clearers and I went in as PLD. Everything was going pretty good - there were some deaths, but we recovered nicely through every mistake and pushed through the fight. Then came the very last mechanic before enrage - Guardian summons Ultros, he flies up, and the missiles start coming out. I'll pull Ultros to the opposite corner like I'm supposed to and I dodge every missile that comes near me.

Except the pair on my left, which I totally did not see while pulling Ultros. As a tank, the missile completely one-shotted me. And the main tank WAR. And the healers. And a DPS. Immediately after, the boss starts casting his enrage.

Feels bad. Oh, the feels. Never came close to enrage again after that.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

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That is the sign of a bad OT. Their job is literally to be in second threat, even in normal. All it would take that PLD is maybe 5 seconds to pop into Shield Oath, do enmity, then switch back into Sword. I'm not even sure why they would care about their deeps in regular trials anyways. It isn't as if they could pull the same crap off in Ex either.

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

I am not sure, I was always told 3 + aoe rotation, regardless that was not the focus of the drama, as I explained the pull after you get the 4 walls they where doing the same thing, and there is around 7? It should also be noted it was very slow and no thunder was used in all 3 cases (first, wall, full pull before boss), 330-340 geared people go faster. Also the BLM did not say anything other then something completely not relating to the situation, so it was assumed trolling.

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The potency nerf to fire 2 messed with the perception of aoe for some BLMs, and did actually change the math a little. I would still tell anyone learning the class to aoe at 3 mobs, and st at 2(with exceptions possible in both cases). The correct aoe rotation(s) at 70 isnt just F2 spam. Actually, according to the math guys with just 3 targets you should be skipping F2s and only doing Flares. Something like B3 T4 B4 F3 Flare Flare(repeat from T4, add Fouls and procs where they wont mess up a timer). Youre taking advantage of the umbral heart mechanic to get 2 flares per mana bar with as few extra actions as possible and cycling through as quickly as possible(flare being roughly 1200 potency with 3 targets). They disagree(last i checked) on the exact number of mobs where adding in 2 F2s before the Flares is an advantage(its more then 3, less then 6 as i recall). Personally, i try to do the F2s anyway. Not because i think its the stone-cold best PPS i can manage. I do it for the psychology of the group. The others will feel better about big pulls seeing all those explosions. It also makes me look more active, as the short version has more waiting on mana tics.

Advanced aoe thoughts aside, yeah this guy was either trolling or lazy enough as to being almost carried. Not a good look.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

That is the sign of a bad OT. Their job is literally to be in second threat, even in normal. All it would take that PLD is maybe 5 seconds to pop into Shield Oath, do enmity, then switch back into Sword. I'm not even sure why they would care about their deeps in regular trials anyways. It isn't as if they could pull the same crap off in Ex either.

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Or just do it with voke shirk like you're supposed to. PLD should never be in ShO.

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Originally Posted by Luin

Or just do it with voke shirk like you're supposed to. PLD should never be in ShO.

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Some don't carry shirk in their kit, especially if they queued for leveling and got Lakshmi. Sure, they could easily have just swapped role actions, but this is the DF we are talking about...

I'm fairly sure that outside of the normal mode ifrit, titan and garuda all the story primals are in trial roulette. And even if I'm somehow mistaken here which I'm pretty sure I'm not, it would take them just a few seconds to switch one of their role skills for shirk.

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Originally Posted by Luin

Or just do it with voke shirk like you're supposed to. PLD should never be in ShO.

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Actually, iiuc, for threat maintenance on the OT, u need to "circle shirk" (OT shirk=>voke, MT shirk=>voke), but that requires more coordination than most DF tank pairs will have. Doing a "voke=>shirk" combo can actually push you below second threat in some cases (undergeared OT, for example).

--Erim Nelhah

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

... the PLD gives me sass for my threat. "RDM dont expect tanks to spam threat combos to save you manage your hate" he said before leaving.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

That is the sign of a bad OT. Their job is literally to be in second threat, even in normal. All it would take that PLD is maybe 5 seconds to pop into Shield Oath, do enmity, then switch back into Sword.

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Originally Posted by Erim-Nelhah

Actually, iiuc, for threat maintenance on the OT, u need to "circle shirk" (OT shirk=>voke, MT shirk=>voke), but that requires more coordination than most DF tank pairs will have. Doing a "voke=>shirk" combo can actually push you below second threat in some cases.

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Responding to all 3- as someone who progressed in pugs as a PLD OT.You don't need tank stance to keep second threat, nor do you need a single threat combo. You simply need to cast voke during the tankbuster cast, you can then shirk after the cleave goes out. The cleave comes immediately after. it worked for me no problems for the 15+ clears I needed to get all of my accessories.

Just a awful PLD in DF.

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Originally Posted by MoroMurasaki

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Just to add to the myriad of other replies to this post - that tank was bad and he should feel ashamed for sassing like that.

I know enmity is a team thing but if the RDM is popping their enmity tools consistently and still riding #2 hate, the only way for said RDM to reduce their hate is to DPS LESS.

... so essentially the PLD is telling a DPS to DPS less because they can't be bothered to try to do their role as an OT and get targeted and eat OT cleaves.

>>;....

I'd say cross world black list them and move on! And sorry you had to deal with that.

Also, the PLD in question may have had lower ilvl than you but don't forget because it's a story line trial synced to level 68. There's an ilvl sync there probably to around 285 which is between Doma and Castrum Abania. Therefore they were in "capped gear" for all intents and purposes and should've had no trouble holding hate on you.

On the topic of OT threat level, whenever I am OT, I ensure that I have that #2 spot locked down(usually by popping into Deliverance/Shield Oath/Grit for a combo or two) shortly after the MT locks down their #1 spot.

From the OT perspective, I feel if a tank wants to go from being an okay tank to a good / excellent tank, they need to be very cognisant of the differing fight mechanics and what their responsibilities are for that particular fight. This can range from:

1. No additional effort needed (Enter DPS Stance and GO IN) [O5, O8]
2. When it's necessary to pick up Add Spawns / tank mechanics [Sussano, O7]
3. Tank Swap [Shinryu EX, Sussano EX]
4. Maintain #2 Hate for OT mechanics [Lakshmi, Byakko]

Just because you aren't MTing the fight doesn't mean you don't have a responsibility and showing that you understand those responsibilities will show you're a better player than many.

[edit] Not to say an off-tank should know these things immediately when entering a fight, but they should be actively looking to ensure that things meant to be completed by an off-tank is well... completed by an off-tank. They should be actively striving to complete their role and responsibilites.

Okay, I usually don't feel anything would be worthy of a read on here compared to other things that have happened to you all. However, last night I thought this might be a funny read. I was helping a leaf player with getting a clear on Leviathan. I rolled NIN and my pal rolled WAR. We get in and start going through the normal motions of the trial. Then the MT "who was DRK" started yelling "STOP ATTACKING!" and then shortly after and to the T "NINA PAY ATTENTION STOP ATTACKING!!" At this point I was attacking the gyro sphere things, and was also the only ninja. He they yells again "STOP ATTACKING LEVI!!!!". At this point I'm totally confused because I'm not attacking Levi and stop attacking altogether and just write back, "but I AM paying attention O_o". At this point Levi had just jumped onto the boat to make it tip over and someone else points out in chat saying "dude you needa chill, this isn't even that hard". So fast forward to the end of the duty and I tell him dude this is not hard at all. He quickly leaves and I'm just sooooo confused at this point. I double check at the party to see if there was another ninja, nope! BUT! then I see it...it was someone else...Her name was Nina! I busted out laughing so hard, not at her but at the fact that I'm always referred to as Nin or Ninja. I saw "NINA" and thought he just forgot the (J). Poor Nina, if you ever come across this, I'm sure you weren't doing bad at all. And last but not least...the kicker? It was Levi normal!!!!

Oh wow, vote abandon on Cutter's Cry. That's new. A sprout AST and BLM (who also had HW jobs open), and a ninja. Me on WAR.
Now, I'm a little tired and didn't pay attention to the team comp and for whatever reason by the time we reached Chimera I, for whatever reason, had started thinking everyone is ranged. The BLM took every dragon voice, the healer prioritised BLM over himself so the healer ended up kicking the bucket before the BLM (who kicked the bucket soon after). I've cleared this from like 60 % before with just a BRD and WAR so I thought alright, we gonna own this trick but as I somehow didn't pay attention to the fact they are melee I left the chimera's butt covered in ice, the ninja also died to something and then I went and got caught in a paralysis which ended up getting me caught in ram voices.

During the fight after dying healer tells BLM to try avoiding the dmg. Ninja tells me it's harder to do with how I'm tanking it which after a little brainwork made me finally realize they're melee and I apologise and expect we'll just go and handle it now like it's business as usual. The healer DC's. We give her plenty of time to get back. Vote kick and look for replacement. 50 minutes left on the clock a vote abandon happens and passes. Just... wow. I'll give them a benefit of doupt but that sure seemed like a ragequit on the healers part to me.

Also I queued again and landed in Shisui where the map was acting... weirdly. For every other player there was another dot on the map too like there were 7 players in the instance. I didn't realize to try howering over them but I already missed an extra add spawn with screenshots so I don't think standing around more would've been amusing for the others anyway.

EDIT: Why is there this ridiculous 1000 mark limit on this forum? It's not like 2000 symbols is too long of a message on a forum.

It's rare that I post here anymore...but oh my god, this last run on Doma took 40 minutes. Where do I begin? I'm queued as a Monk, another MNK, a WAR, and a SCH. First standard pull which is the wall to wall, and the tank just dies. I dunno what the SCH was doing, wasn't paying attention to them, but there are so many adds that I decide to just let them kill me. But the SCH keeps on healing me, which doesn't help, so I have to wait an additional few seconds before I finally die. The other MNK is still valiantly fighting, but for whatever reason, as myself, the SCH, and the WAR rez at the starting point, they start kiting the mobs all the way back to the starting area.

It becomes a circle of reset and die. I just finally had enough and told folks to just let the mobs reset so we can start over.

Soon as I say that, the SCH quits. A WHM queues in and I breathe a sigh of relief. They wonder what happened, and I told them that the healer rage quit and probably couldn't keep up with the first wall to wall pull. No sooner do I say this, I realize that both the WAR and MNK have taken off to go after the adds - without protect. So that was another reset. WHM is immediately irritated with the WAR and quits the instance too.

At this point, I'm ready to just quit. A SCH queues in, and we finally get a proper run together. I have to admit, I nearly almost ate the penalty. The tank had this weird habit of going AFK for no more than 30 seconds at a time up to the second set of cannons you come across on the way to the 2nd boss. The adds were dying painfully slow (I was spent on TP every set of mobs, even using Purification with literally every single mob). 2nd boss, it became obvious that the tank was either AFK'ing, didn't know what to do, or just didn't care. Didn't really try to move the 2nd boss away from the huge lasers. The monk ran away from me and the SCH when they got a stack marker. Didn't try to touch any of the towers, so myself and the SCH ended up dealing with every single tower.

Then the next set of mobs with the ninjas. Again, I used up all of my TP trying to kill them. I happened to look at the party list and noticed that the MNK was almost at full TP. They weren't using AOEs. So I asked them if they knew their AOE rotation. They said maybe. Now at this point, I'm irritated, I'm tired of being in this dungeon, I just want to get my level 68 and move on. So I grit my teeth.

At the final boss, the MNK is still in the cutscene when the WAR just charges right in and aggros the boss. So I just stood there outside of the arena. I didn't even care anymore. Told them a DPS was in the cutscene. ...I have a new appreciation for the folks on discord who I have been running with. Holy hell.

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Originally Posted by Lammas

EDIT: Why is there this ridiculous 1000 mark limit on this forum? It's not like 2000 symbols is too long of a message on a forum.

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It's because the forum is coded for Japanese symbols, not English letters. It's a frequent complaint. At least there is a workaround.

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Originally Posted by OMega_ARcane

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I'm gonna call every NIN Nina from now on. Poor Nina but kind of a fun misunderstanding.

I have a fun Levi normal story too...at least I think it was Levi (correct me if I'm wrong).

So it's my first time tanking it as DRK and I go for the head. Everything is smooth, party is really nice but near the end, I get it by the AOE that inflicts the fear status on you, which makes you run everywere.
The funny thing is, is that my character was always coming back to that AOE, thus I couldn't get out of that vicious cycles.

But the best part is that the other tank got the same problem.

"Well this is awkward" I say. Hilarity ensues and everyone leaves with a good laugh. Wish I could have recorded that.

EDIT : BTW I know it's been a few days and water has gone under the bridge but I would like to apologize for that Syrcus tower post. I was not in the best mindset to write and I violated some forum rules. I'll be more careful next time

https://i.imgur.com/8qLR0Ia.png

This is what a tank bot looks like (Dzemael Darkhold edition).

You'll find them doing any, or all, of the following:

- Ignoring telegraphed AoEs

- Ignoring simple mechanics
My Tank Bot attacked the final boss when he was invincible.
My Tank Bot did not pull the first boss into the light so he could be attacked.

- Doing simple mechanics despite looming threat of death
My Tank Bot sat in the magic locks while holding 3+ pulls of enemies.

- Not using cooldowns

- Not using tank stance

- Not responding to multiple, Auto-Translated requests for [Unleash/Flash/Overpower] or [tank stance]

- Only using cooldowns in a very specific, robotic fashion
My Tank Bot popped all cooldowns at once and THEN engaged every boss. See picture.

You'll find tank bots in ARR dungeons in out-of-date gear, probably running for gil. Don't let tank bots ruin your run. Ask your doctor today if [Report cheating] is right for you.

No, but seriously. If you're going to bot, don't drag other people into it. This was the worst run I've had in a long time.

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Originally Posted by ilea

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Dumb question but have you tried to kick it ?
Anyway that bar hurts to look at...

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Originally Posted by AxHell

Dumb question but did you have you tried to kick it ?
Anyway that bar hurts to look at...

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I did not. I'd queued in through mentor roulette, and they'd already been waiting for a healer for about 20 (?) minutes. Waiting for a tank would've taken even longer so I just tried to get it over with.

We had one of these in Tam Tara normal the other day. Mentor tried to get the guy to flash, no response, ignored all AOE telegraph, etc. Kicked shortly there after.

Dun Scaith for Alliance roulette featuring:

Very first Doom in Deathgaze. I use Paeon to cleanse one person, what about the other? Nothing. Healers both too busy casting Stone III. Doom goes down to about 5s left so i say in chat "cleanse doom" and nothing.

Deathgaze covers 7 out of 8 parts on the platform. Trash is relatively ok. Ferdiad goes mostly well. Wipe at Scathatch before she even gets to add phase. Connia did drop, I marked her as 1, and... nothing. The phrases in chat of "if you get tethered to hand stare at it", etc are repeated multiple times before the 1st fight, after wipe, during the 2nd try where we nearly wiped again.

Proto ultima fine... and Diabolos Hollow we at least didn't wipe on but again in alliance chat mechanics are explained for the newbies - stack and look away, kill door adds immediately, point earthshakers AWAY from the party..

We were at the 40 minute mark already when we finished Scathatch. The whole run took almost an hour. At least I got a bonus for my WT.....

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Originally Posted by ilea

No, but seriously. If you're going to bot, don't drag other people into it. This was the worst run I've had in a long time.

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I've seen known bots. They don't play that poorly.

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Originally Posted by Luin

I've seen known bots. They don't play that poorly.

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They can. I once had one in Toto-Rak, back when I first started playing that did pretty much the same. It got so bad that I had to summon Topaz Carbuncle to tank because the bot was constantly pathing back to bosses and through mobs using only one ability. No response when talked at, moved in straight lines and in a very set pattern, didn't even use the teleport feature after we wiped to the final boss due to it's poor programming. We didn't want to eat the penalty to get a new tank and half the time he was running into mobs so fast we couldn't kick him, and even restarted the boss fight at least once by just straight running down the hallway to the final boss and into the chamber - again with clear pathing that no player would take. Topaz Carbuncle held it's own however and we eventually cleared the instance - with the bot running against the lock out wall after being rezzed and running all the way back after it bit it due to poison.

Mind, I think it depends on the programming the botter is using however. Not every bot scripting program is advanced enough to actually do semi-decently.

Not going to lie, I'm getting kinda tired of people that would rather hurl abuse at you in DF than explain things.

Had a dude in DF just now go nuts because I'm pretty new to tanking (usually healer), and admittedly, I could have done a little better with timing my cooldowns in the Chrysalis - I've only ever done that fight as a WHM, but I certainly didn't deserve being called things such as a "lying sack of ****" because he assumed that I wasn't using them at all (I was!).

It's this kind of thing that really kills the game for me. I'm tired of people thinking that just because they are on the other side of a computer, that they don't have to act with some manner of decency.

Back to soloing~

I normally stick to lurking in this thread, but I finally decided to finish leveling WHM and AST. They're both 57 (and I'm sure I've given other people stories worthy of this thread along the way), so after I do my roulette, I bite the bullet and jump into the Vault on WHM. It's my first time healing it, but I've seen enough craziness on my way up that I should be able to handle the place, right? Well, let's see ....

• I load in and notice the WAR has less health in Defiance than the DPS. I quickly inspect her and find she's wearing the i90 left side, assorted i30-50 accessories, and an i45 weapon. I cringe, thinking this might not end well.
• We get through the trash to the first boss, but as you might expect, dps from me was minimal. No deaths yet, though, so at least I'm holding up that end of the bargain....
• .... until the fight starts, that is. I'm the first one picked for his random-target ability and I underestimate how hard it hits, so I left myself at ~75% health. I get flattened. Wipe #1.
• Try again, I get myself trapped by spheres and blown up. Wipe #2.
• Third attempt, we finally get by him, despite the fact that I ripped hate midway through (tank got it back quickly, though).
• Go through trash to second boss -- no deaths, but a couple close calls. I've been keeping Benediction mostly on cooldown.
• Second boss -- we wipe because I'm a derp and get knocked back into black holes. Second attempt wins, but still sees a dps go down because she took a black hole and I can't switch between the tank and her quickly enough.
• Ah, Charibert -- I'm already dreading this fight. The tank's picked up a couple upgrades during the run, so now she's near-even in health to the dps. It still doesn't leave a lot of cushion for keeping her up along with healing the aoe damage. We end up wiping twice -- once because tank takes a big hit while I'm breaking a chain and dodging knights, and I can't get back to her in time (and Bene was already on cooldown, again); and the second because I didn't notice I was out of MP, so I was trying to heal and wondering why nothing was happening.

Now, to be fair, the WAR seemed mechanically sound -- she was using cooldowns and (mostly) keeping hate; she simply had 55-60% of the health tanks at 57 normally have (and probably the corresponding decreases in defense), and considering that I could have prevented at least three of those wipes .... I figure I probably dragged that run out more than the undergeared tank did.

But at least we cleared (even if it was 60 minutes and 11 Benedictions later), right?

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Also I queued again and landed in Shisui where the map was acting... weirdly. For every other player there was another dot on the map too like there were 7 players in the instance. I didn't realize to try howering over them but I already missed an extra add spawn with screenshots so I don't think standing around more would've been amusing for the others anyway.

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Pets show up as a separate dot on the map so potentially.... scholar + fairy, summoner + egi and machinist + turret?

(Also because turrets are stationary but show up on the map as a 'party member' it can sometimes look like someone has been left behind in a previous room.)

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Originally Posted by Nix

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I feel sorry that you had to put up with such a rude guy. Sometimes people forget that not every player has done everything and that there can be newbies.

In honesty, that shoudn't turn you off from tanking. It almost happened to me but decided to practice a bit with a friend and now I think tanking's really fun.

Why not ask some people in your FC if they can help you about tanking ?

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Not going to lie, I'm getting kinda tired of people that would rather hurl abuse at you in DF than explain things. It's this kind of thing that really kills the game for me. I'm tired of people thinking that just because they are on the other side of a computer, that they don't have to act with some manner of decency.

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This^ All of this and so much more. This is why there will always be bonuses for Tanks and Healers and very rarely dps. Because of the amount of abuse both have to put up on a near constant basis.

If party dies because they ignore an important mechanic Healer gets blamed, if Tank loses Aggro because DPS facepulled Tank gets blamed.But every single time it's always one or the others fault when 90% of the time it's really not.

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Pets show up as a separate dot on the map so potentially.... scholar + fairy, summoner + egi and machinist + turret?

(Also because turrets are stationary but show up on the map as a 'party member' it can sometimes look like someone has been left behind in a previous room.)

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Ah, I feel stupid now. I didn't even think about that. 2 Summoners and a Scholar.

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Originally Posted by Lammas

Ah, I feel stupid now. I didn't even think about that. 2 Summoners and a Scholar.

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Frazzled nerves from the previous dungeon, I think!

I find it funny getting an all-arcanist team. So many DoT markers. (Now they just need to introduce a tank job for it...)

Went into Fractual Hard for the first time. Said I was new, died to mechanics at the end tank says in PT Chat:

I recommend you look into guides before entering things because from here, you'll most likely get tanks who won't put up with the shit.

HAHAHA

Well shit man.

Holy crap - was a great welcome back to the game after being away for so long. Rip.

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I feel sorry that you had to put up with such a rude guy. Sometimes people forget that not every player has done everything and that there can be newbies.
In honesty, that shoudn't turn you off from tanking. It almost happened to me but decided to practice a bit with a friend and now I think tanking's really fun.

Why not ask some people in your FC if they can help you about tanking ?

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Thank you for your kind words!
My FC is really just me D: I take so many breaks because of college that it's hard to get into a free company and form bonds because I might be around one week, and then gone for another 6 haha. I do have a few lifelong friends that play; I will have to poke them until they let me sacrifice them in dungeons! <_>;

The last time I seriously tanked was like... back in the very early days of 2.0, and so everything has changed since then. I think the highest level content I did tank was labyrinth of the ancients haha. But since I have to take so many breaks, I get rusty again and it takes me a while to find my feet.

Have an awesome day everyone :3!

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Originally Posted by kidalutz

This^ All of this and so much more. This is why there will always be bonuses for Tanks and Healers and very rarely dps. Because of the amount of abuse both have to put up on a near constant basis.

If party dies because they ignore an important mechanic Healer gets blamed, if Tank loses Aggro because DPS facepulled Tank gets blamed.But every single time it's always one or the others fault when 90% of the time it's really not.

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For sure! I honestly don't think the bonuses are worth it - sure, the achievement mounts can be nice, as can the extra xp.... But I'd rather not get either at the cost of my sanity haha