SE please stop making mounts and glams inaccessible

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Originally Posted by Glasss

I'm not saying I want them to give it out for free. My suggestion would be for it to be put behind accessible content. For example an axolotl could have been put behind something like fishing achievements.
Don't be purposely obtuse.

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It is accessible, just not at your skill level apparently.

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

Could be worse

https://cdn.fanbyte.com/wp-content/u...akr.jpg?x25640

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Right…..why…do I expect them to add that blob as a reward somewhere soon…

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Originally Posted by Glasss

I'm not saying I want them to give it out for free. My suggestion would be for it to be put behind accessible content. For example an axolotl could have been put behind something like fishing achievements.
Don't be purposely obtuse.

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Can I get ultimate weapons from housing then ? I'll be waiting for them in my mailbox, thank you

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

Could be worse

https://cdn.fanbyte.com/wp-content/u...akr.jpg?x25640

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This should be the casual reward people get for logging in. It should just drop in your mailbox. No effort required.

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Originally Posted by Capstone

I just reject the premise that savage is hard. Ultimates, sure.

Sure, savage is the first content that isn't a walking simulator, and I don't expect a random person off the street to clear it week 1--but some people can, and do. But if you want it, it's free.

I say this as someone who wanted a weapon that wouldn't clip into a very large hat, and so set out to get the p4s whm weapon as my first tier, which while not particularly fast, I did get on-content, and was not that hard.

Go watch a video guide and join pf or find a static. Congrats on your mount.

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Savage is midcore content at best, it honestly blows my mind how some people thinks that check an debuff timer or going to your tower is a hard content.

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Originally Posted by Glasss

I'm not saying I want them to give it out for free. My suggestion would be for it to be put behind accessible content. For example an axolotl could have been put behind something like fishing achievements.
Don't be purposely obtuse.

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That's essentially giving it out for free. Unless said fishing achievement is catching several extremely rare big fish that will take you a very long time to grind out. You're putting in nowhere close to the same effort as someone clearing Savage or Ultimate yet want the same rewards.

How about no. You get your accessibility by beating Savage unsynced in a subsequent expansion.

I just wish they would make the old Feast and CC glamours available, even if its locked behind a massive grind.

Get better at the game if you really want it.

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Originally Posted by Raim

I just wish they would make the old Feast and CC glamours available, even if its locked behind a massive grind.

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make them behind like 50 wolf collars for the coffer, i have too many of these damn things

how bout they keep doing it cause it's awesome

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Originally Posted by Glasss

I'm not trying to take rewards away from people. They would still have access to get them through whatever alternate achievements they could be put behind??? They could still be something to be proud of getting if its something that takes time or strategy to get.
Also again to reiterate, if they enjoy the challenge then a cool title and high ilvl gear should be already great as it is? Since many people do it for that already?

You fail to see what a disability is. I personally have narcolepsy and cataplexy - research it or dont. There are many other illnesses or disabilities that will effect game play that is not 'skill'

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again that is a skill issue and a YOU problem. Like someone else stated, higher iLvl gear is pointless considering you already beat the content and titles are just NOT enough. A mount is perfectly fine as a reward and the ulti weapons are as well. Square will not and SHOULD NOT cater to people like you complaining that people who put in work for their rewards get actually rewarded. You can get the mount later by unsyncing the content anyway, boohoo if it takes a few years for you to be able to steamroll it. Those rewards are meant to be a flex, and flex on people like you I will. Enjoy not having your mount.

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Originally Posted by Glasss

All are completely inaccessible for many players with disabilities or other such issues. Its frustrating when this is a game we pay to play and we get cut off from content like this.

I get that they want to reward players able to defeat hard content, but then why not provide them with unique titles or high iLvl gear thats useful for the content they are doing?

As it is now, I and many others will have to wait until a couple expansions later when the savages might be doable unsynced. And in the case of Ultimates it will always be an unobtainable dream.

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I see out of a single eyeball, and I have extremely bad motor control of my left hand. It's only there for WASD and even then, I still mess up from time to time. Makes me a dirty clicker for fights. But I still do savage content, I cleared an ultimate and am working on another. These things are do-able to the average player. But they take time. And some players may take longer to clear then others. It happens.. Have you tried to go into an savage/ultimate? Or did you just write it off cause it's "hard"?? Did you study the fights before going in like the average raider does for this content??

Ilvl gear as a reward is dumb. It's going to get obsolete rather quickly. Most people use weapons for glam purpose and gosh forbid it's something flashy or cool and you just get the same post once more.
And a title? Really?

These aren't good incentives.

I like when mounts or glams are locked behind harder content. It gives me something to do. A challenge that isn't locked behind tomes or mindless grind of bozja/eureka (looking at you relics!).

I understand how the OP feels... but for some rewards you have to either step up, give up, or wait (until you can run it unsync in the next expansion). The thing is... raids in this game are VERY accessible. The question is does the player want to put in the time and effort to run them.

Why are raids accessible?
- Only have to clear normal raids (and some amount of MSQ) to access them
- Can run them from anywhere (no travel through a difficult area)
- Can run them anytime (raid finder, party finder, etc)
- No exp loss, no significant gil loss
- No farming other raids to get one shot at the "raid boss."

The list goes on and on. Raids are very accessible. The question is are they very difficult? And that's something that takes varying levels and time, effort and patience.

This kind of thread never fails to show its ugly head. When something someone wants is locked behind something they can't or won't do. More things change more they stay the same.

not like there are a ton of other mounts to choose from

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Originally Posted by BriBwee

I see out of a single eyeball, and I have extremely bad motor control of my left hand. It's only there for WASD and even then, I still mess up from time to time. Makes me a dirty clicker for fights. But I still do savage content, I cleared an ultimate and am working on another. These things are do-able to the average player. But they take time. And some players may take longer to clear then others. It happens.. Have you tried to go into an savage/ultimate? Or did you just write it off cause it's "hard"?? Did you study the fights before going in like the average raider does for this content??

Ilvl gear as a reward is dumb. It's going to get obsolete rather quickly. Most people use weapons for glam purpose and gosh forbid it's something flashy or cool and you just get the same post once more.
And a title? Really?

These aren't good incentives.

I like when mounts or glams are locked behind harder content. It gives me something to do. A challenge that isn't locked behind tomes or mindless grind of bozja/eureka (looking at you relics!).

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Hey fellow clicker *high five*

I read the title and thought this was about event mounts from like 2014 that you can't get anymore. You know ACTUAL inaccessible stuff.

Skill. Issue.

Do them unsynced next expansion. Savage stuff becomes accessible to everyone at some point. There's nothing wrong with giving people that put a lot of time and effort into clearing a reward.

There already exists a variety of mounts and glamours that can be obtained in other ways such as fishing, island sanctuary and even retainer ventures. Just because the ones that you happen to want are connected to a particular kind of content does not negate all the others widely available to you.

Worst case, just wait til the content is an expansion old and do it unsync’d. Easy peasy.

If anything, they need to do this more often and even take it further. I don't raid at all, I'm old and bad with not enough free time now, but if I were really into raiding?? Rewards like this would be everything to me. It'd make me so excited to go in, and make it all feel super worth it. When it comes to XIVs tougher content, I've always felt like the rewards are super lacking. So. I hope they add in way cooler/cuter things to further incentivize people to get into raiding and reward those that do a lot better.

How 2023 of you to use disabilities as a reason to be handed rewards without earning them. The entire point of this trophy mount is to show others with one glance that you have done savage as there is no other way to get it.

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I get that they want to reward players able to defeat hard content, but then why not provide them with unique titles or high iLvl gear thats useful for the content they are doing?

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Gear is no longer useful if you've already cleared the final boss of the expansion, duh. How about you go get some titles from easier content? I'm sure you've not gotten them all.

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You don't get what a disability is do you. I can start 'working on it' but that is never going to get me past my limitations. Tell someone in a wheelchair to start working on walking.

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If you can't do savage you won't get the mount for now. So what? It's better to come to terms with your limitations than make these embarrassing requests for free stuff. The world is full of really cool things most people will never have because they are unable to do what's required. Disabled people aren't the only ones who have to accept not being able to get everything they want.

I know it's a shitty bait thread, but it's hilarious how many people feel entitled to receive the good and cute stuff for free with no effort at all. I say SE needs to do this much more often, either get to doing savage to earn it or wait til next expansion to unsync it.

Mao just wants clear up some things here. Is many kinds disabilities. Some nots prevent peoples from raiding. Some do. In case of Mao, is severe Resting Tremor Syndrome. Is so bad that within seconds of any activity with keyboard or mouse, Mao starts shakings and within 10 minutes the shakings so severe that Mao can't even press keys or mouse buttons. Some days better than others and on those days Mao can do little bits more. Doctors want do brain surgery on Mao. Mao hopings that helps but Mao pretty scared. Havings said this, Mao's condition should NOT be a factor in deciding difficulty of savage raids or accessibility to rewards from those raids. Savage raids should be tuned to be a challenge for the best players. Rewards from savage raids should be meaningful for the participants. Sometimes when life gives lemons, just has to accept that can't has everything. Peoples with severe disabilities has to learn to make do with what thems can get. Even though Mao can't raid, Mao has many MANY other activities in game that Mao can do. Mao has lot mounts, lots glams, all easily obtainable by Mao. Peoples need to be realistic abouts expectations and do what is within their means. One last thing......Go raiders! Beats up them baddies for Mao! Mao will be cheerings from sidelines.

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Originally Posted by Eraden

Mao just wants clear up some things here. Is many kinds disabilities. Some nots prevent peoples from raiding. Some do. In case of Mao, is severe Resting Tremor Syndrome. Is so bad that within seconds of any activity with keyboard or mouse, Mao starts shakings and within 10 minutes the shakings so severe that Mao can't even press keys or mouse buttons. Some days better than others and on those days Mao can do little bits more. Doctors want do brain surgery on Mao. Mao hopings that helps but Mao pretty scared. Havings said this, Mao's condition should NOT be a factor in deciding difficulty of savage raids or accessibility to rewards from those raids. Savage raids should be tuned to be a challenge for the best players. Rewards from savage raids should be meaningful for the participants. Sometimes when life gives lemons, just has to accept that can't has everything. Peoples with severe disabilities has to learn to make do with what thems can get. Even though Mao can't raid, Mao has many MANY other activities in game that Mao can do. Mao has lot mounts, lots glams, all easily obtainable by Mao. Peoples need to be realistic abouts expectations and do what is within their means. One last thing......Go raiders! Beats up them baddies for Mao! Mao will be cheerings from sidelines.

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Mao, your positivity is a much needed change in these forums. Thanks for being you.

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Originally Posted by Glasss

All are completely inaccessible for many players with disabilities or other such issues. Its frustrating when this is a game we pay to play and we get cut off from content like this.

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There's literally someone who plays with their feet and even they're not complaining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogCRNvghbiw

He also raids btw lol

Why not just make those gears sellable via MB?

I really want to see them lock a casual streetwear glam behind savage now. The resulting outcry would be amusing to watch.

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Originally Posted by Glasss

It could be behind content that is accessible. No where did I say it should be given out for free.

You don't get what a disability is do you. I can start 'working on it' but that is never going to get me past my limitations. Tell someone in a wheelchair to start working on walking.

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Savage tier is accessible, you just gotta involve yourself with it, if you don't do savage, well no mount for you!

Besides alot of these things that is cool is barred behind massive things.... but would you have been more happy if it was barred behind 10000 hoards found by accident in any of the Deep Dungeons? Because you kind of need to add it somewhere, where it just as much hurts... or behind 15000 commendations or something?

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Originally Posted by Glasss

SE needs to stop locking glams and mounts behind raids. I'm sure people have raised this many times, but its worth mentioning again since its suggested the axolotl mount is behind the upcoming savage.

https://cdn.fanbyte.com/wp-content/u...otl.png?x25640

SE will release a good looking glam but only provide the dyable version behind the savages. A mount teased in the live letter is now presumed to be a savage mount? The most visually impressive weapons of the game are behind ultimates.
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All are completely inaccessible for many players with disabilities or other such issues. Its frustrating when this is a game we pay to play and we get cut off from content like this.

I get that they want to reward players able to defeat hard content, but then why not provide them with unique titles or high iLvl gear thats useful for the content they are doing?

As it is now, I and many others will have to wait until a couple expansions later when the savages might be doable unsynced. And in the case of Ultimates it will always be an unobtainable dream.

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It's always been like that since WoW and many other MMOs.

The rare skin is reserved for the HL PVE raider, if you really want it, you make sure you can do it, otherwise it's not for you.

Endwalker Relics are already being offered in exchange for memoquartz, which takes all the interest out of the skin, which is no longer rare.

Personally, I don't feel like doing HL PvE, so I'll leave that to those who still want to do it.

I sometimes farm Ex when I'm interested.
5 more iLvL isn't going to change much when you just like glam and housing.


If there are no more special rewards for those who do Ultimate and Savage, there will be no interest other than having a rare title and saying: I did it.

I don't like Eureka-style content, but it was an acceptable way of getting a rare skin that even some Savage and Ultimate Raiders didn't want to do.


In short, you don't want to make content to deserve a glam, it's just not for you, no need to cry about it.

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Originally Posted by miraidensetsu

Why not just make those gears sellable via MB?

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Removes the reason for players to repeat the content and makes it harder for those looking for their first time clears to get groups if they're starting late in the patch.

Increases RMT activity and creates a P2W atmosphere.

You can't make a post about content that haven't been released yet, if you know what's coming you clearly have done a datamine or spreading one meaning you're breaking TOS. Think twice about what you have done and please remove this post immediately before corresponding measures been taken.

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Originally Posted by Glasss

"but then why not provide them with unique titles or high iLvl gear thats useful for the content they are doing?"

FFXIV is a game people play for fun, it is not a job. If players want to do savages its because they want to do that kind of content. Yeah you could give them titles and achievements as rewards. High iLvl gear would make sense too as it would make doing the savage content also more efficient. There are plenty of people who do savages and ultimate for that kind of reward as it is now.

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Until some other fool screams and bashes their rattle for the title and/or gear that sounds/looks cool.

The mount looks like a repurposed cash shop mount. Like, I know tastes are subjective and all that, but it seems tonally divorced from the other mounts so far and from the theme of the raid in general; I have no idea why it's in this raid at all, or why anyone is sad about not getting it in the first place. Mount farmers are difficult for me to understand. Like... They'll run an extreme trial 100 times to buy the mount outright, but then spend all their time in Limsa unable to even use it, and when they finally do go into the open world, they'll hop onto a different mount entirely. Is it just a compulsive drive to collect??

Anyway, just give it a few months. With how predictable SE has been, and with how many people have lost sleep over this genuinely hideous monstrosity, I'm sure they'll just release a 37 dollar account-wide reskin of it in the cash shop before 7.0 drops.

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Originally Posted by Glasss

I'm not saying I want them to give it out for free. My suggestion would be for it to be put behind accessible content. For example an axolotl could have been put behind something like fishing achievements.
Don't be purposely obtuse.

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Fishing is way more frustrating than raiding tbh.

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

The mount looks like a repurposed cash shop mount. Like, I know tastes are subjective and all that, but it seems tonally divorced from the other mounts so far and from the theme of the raid in general; I have no idea why it's in this raid at all, or why anyone is sad about not getting it in the first place. Mount farmers are difficult for me to understand. Like... They'll run an extreme trial 100 times to buy the mount outright, but then spend all their time in Limsa unable to even use it, and when they finally do go into the open world, they'll hop onto a different mount entirely. Is it just a compulsive drive to collect??

Anyway, just give it a few months. With how predictable SE has been, and with how many people have lost sleep over this genuinely hideous monstrosity, I'm sure they'll just release a 37 dollar account-wide reskin of it in the cash shop before 7.0 drops.

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I enjoy mount farming but will only farm mounts that are locked behind content I enjoy. I love running EX trials, deep dungeons, savage, Eureka/Bozja, etc. so I have a good time farming for those mounts. As for stuff I don't like doing like crafting or PVP, I just don't farm for those, even if it's one I like. (and I don't complain when mounts I want are behind something I don't enjoy because I can just get on Ozma or my mentor mount or Bozja bike instead. Not all content needs to be made for me.) For me it's more about the journey than the destination. Like right now I'm working on getting my 99 totems from the new EX with a group of friends and we're having a lot of fun so it's worth the 50 runs to do it.

As for the Axolotl, imo it's a pretty boring and unexciting mount for the reward of the final savage tier this expac. I personally won't really be using it when I clear the tier because last tier's mount was cooler.

How is putting the mount in savage inaccessible? Is this somehow a complaint not everything is on mog station?

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Originally Posted by vanaii

How is putting the mount in savage inaccessible? Is this somehow a complaint not everything is on mog station?

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It's inaccessible because they cant do it. Basically this is what happens when schools give everyone a taking part medal :P

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

It's inaccessible because they cant do it. Basically this is what happens when schools give everyone a taking part medal :P

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Wait til next expac and unsync farm it? Tends to be a pretty good time too

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

Savage tier is accessible, you just gotta involve yourself with it, if you don't do savage, well no mount for you!

Besides alot of these things that is cool is barred behind massive things.... but would you have been more happy if it was barred behind 10000 hoards found by accident in any of the Deep Dungeons? Because you kind of need to add it somewhere, where it just as much hurts... or behind 15000 commendations or something?

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Before I say this realize as per my other posts I am fine with this being locked to savage which I am physically incapable of doing.

What about a recolor put in the game (not identical) behind just the sort of grind you outline? I would be fine with that because at least it would be doable. The work doesn't phaze me at all.

Though honestly the fact I can't get the original is sad to me but not something I am going to get upset about.