Can we get an in-game notice for Auto-demolition

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

No one said there was a "bug." The people I mentioned thought using their outside items counted as "access." It didn't though, and they obviously didn't read the full demolition email.

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And that's their fault, so what is the problem ?

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

I don't think OP was looking for sympathy, and they were only posting a suggestion like many other people. What is wild is the number of unconstructive comments telling OP they don't "deserve" their house.

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And it's a suggestion that many of us feel is unnecessary because of the other notifications already offered. Hundreds of thousands of players have no problem keeping their house. Why does SE need to change things for the 0.0002% that can't seem to remember they own one?

SE is the one who set the policy of enter it once every forty-five days or forfeit the house. They have set the standard for who deserves one and who doesn't.

Do I want a system where demolition isn't even necessary so this entire discussion would be pointless? Definitely, but until such time as we get such a system I've got no sympathy for those who buy into the system then don't maintain use of it. As several of us have repeated in this thread, if players are using their house then the notifications are not necessary.

As for players who don't bother to check their timers, that's their choice. I will check mine several times a week. About the only timers listed that I ignore are the ones for Leve allowances and Ehcatl Nine deliveries. They're extremely helpful when it comes to keeping track of what's been done if you have more than one character.

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

In the past couple months there have been a couple posts on twitter about people gardening, using their target dummies, checking their mail, and they assumed that was "accessing their estate." Until their house went poof. Maybe if they had read the whole email, their houses would have been saved.

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The resident caretaker has information on the entire housing system in-game. Both the housing unlock quest and the active help window tell you speak to a resident caretaker for more information about housing. If people are capable of finding out how buying a house works, they are also able to find out how auto-demolition works.

https://i.postimg.cc/ryHJt982/Inkedf...215310-450.jpg

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

And it's a suggestion that many of us feel is unnecessary because of the other notifications already offered. Hundreds of thousands of players have no problem keeping their house. Why does SE need to change things for the 0.0002% that can't seem to remember they own one?

SE is the one who set the policy of enter it once every forty-five days or forfeit the house. They have set the standard for who deserves one and who doesn't.

Do I want a system where demolition isn't even necessary so this entire discussion would be pointless? Definitely, but until such time as we get such a system I've got no sympathy for those who buy into the system then don't maintain use of it. As several of us have repeated in this thread, if players are using their house then the notifications are not necessary.

As for players who don't bother to check their timers, that's their choice. I will check mine several times a week. About the only timers listed that I ignore are the ones for Leve allowances and Ehcatl Nine deliveries. They're extremely helpful when it comes to keeping track of what's been done if you have more than one character.

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It's a suggestion thread. SE did set the system, but that doesn't mean someone can't post an idea that might be an improvement. There are many threads posting what people thinking might be helpful to improve the game, and I don't see nearly the amount of vitriol in those threads as I've seen here. Just like you said, you have no sympathy. That's fine, but does that really belong here? Does it add anything constructive for or against this argument. No. It just comes off plain mean. You're just as much part of the problem as many others on this thread. It's cool to disagree. Both sides of an argument should be presented, but there's no need to be mean or cruel about it like many of the posters ganging up on the OP.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

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I 100% agree with you, it'd be great if people actually read what the resident caretaker had to say. Some don't though, or they just skip the auto demo portion. There are people who do read what the resident caretaker has to say, but they get busy or distracted with other stuff things. I'm sure they'll learn their lesson after the first demo, but an in-game notification that's easily visibile would be a nice qol feature for those that are logging in.

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

It's a suggestion thread. SE did set the system, but that doesn't mean someone can't post an idea that might be an improvement. There are many threads posting what people thinking might be helpful to improve the game, and I don't see nearly the amount of vitriol in those threads as I've seen here. Just like you said, you have no sympathy. That's fine, but does that really belong here? Does it add anything constructive for or against this argument. No. It just comes off plain mean. You're just as much part of the problem as many others on this thread. It's cool to disagree. Both sides of an argument should be presented, but there's no need to be mean or cruel about it like many of the posters ganging up on the OP.

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This isn't an emotional support forum. It's a discussion forum and there's going to be some pretty blunt critique of ideas and suggestions presented. Certainly I've had some of my own suggestions battered on the anvil but I don't come back with "gee, everyone is so mean".

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

I 100% agree with you, it'd be great if people actually read what the resident caretaker had to say. Some don't though, or they just skip the auto demo portion. There are people who do read what the resident caretaker has to say, but they get busy or distracted with other stuff things. I'm sure they'll learn their lesson after the first demo, but an in-game notification that's easily visibile would be a nice qol feature for those that are logging in.

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Something I've argued for is a separate quest that unlocks when the player finally meets the requirements to purchase a house. The time for the player to be reading what the Resident Caretaker has to say is when they're able to purchase, not 40 levels earlier when they have quite a bit to do before becoming eligible.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Something I've argued for is a separate quest that unlocks when the player finally meets the requirements to purchase a house. The time for the player to be reading what the Resident Caretaker has to say is when they're able to purchase, not 40 levels earlier when they have quite a bit to do before becoming eligible.

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Off-topic, but people can currently purchase a free company house at level 2. A player can form their own free company at level 25. As long as a person has been in a free company for 30 days, has the correct permissions, and has access to the housing area they want to buy, a player can bid on a free company house at any level. Not everyone is going to be hitting level 50 within 30 days depending on their work, school, and rl engagements. If someone is low level, and have inherited a free company, we'd want them to have access to how housing works.

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

Off-topic, but people can currently purchase a free company house at level 2. A player can form their own free company at level 25. As long as a person has been in a free company for 30 days, has the correct permissions, and has access to the housing area they want to buy, a player can bid on a free company house at any level. Not everyone is going to be hitting level 50 within 30 days depending on their work, school, and rl engagements. If someone is low level, and have inherited a free company, we'd want them to have access to how housing works.

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How about we stop babysitting people ? The resources are there in the game to know how housing works, stop with the handholding

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

I've only seen one person suggest a big toast notification. A message in your chat log when you login or a notification like the current lottery notification would be enough imo. If someone misses those, or turns off their notifications, then that's on them. It definitely isn't going to stop all demolitions. People want to take breaks from the game, and don't want to resubscribe just to save their house. It's common to see on twitter people pondering whether they want to login to save their house. I haven't counted, but I'd guess so far it's about 50/50 that people decide it's worth their time or money. The in game notifications will probably be for outliers, where email failed, and people realized oops, using my target dummy doesn't count as using my house.

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I've seen people requesting popup notifications similar to a toast for years on this forum, there is a lot of examples if you dig around on this housing section of the forum.

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

On the housing discord, just this week.

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Oh "the housing discord", like everyone knows what that even means

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

I 100% agree with you, it'd be great if people actually read what the resident caretaker had to say. Some don't though, or they just skip the auto demo portion. There are people who do read what the resident caretaker has to say, but they get busy or distracted with other stuff things. I'm sure they'll learn their lesson after the first demo, but an in-game notification that's easily visibile would be a nice qol feature for those that are logging in.

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If they are too busy to read the rules, they are too busy to own a house. The only qol needed is for the auto demo to take their house away and let someone who actually knows how housing works get a house.

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

Off-topic, but people can currently purchase a free company house at level 2. A player can form their own free company at level 25. As long as a person has been in a free company for 30 days, has the correct permissions, and has access to the housing area they want to buy, a player can bid on a free company house at any level. Not everyone is going to be hitting level 50 within 30 days depending on their work, school, and rl engagements. If someone is low level, and have inherited a free company, we'd want them to have access to how housing works.

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Please insert a dose of reality into your arguments. No one completely new to the game is going to be buying a FC house at level 2. The players buying at low level are going to be veteran players who already know how the system works (and likely already own one or more houses). The odds of a brand new player inheriting a FC with house with a level 2 character through normal means is also extremely small.

There's no one cut off from access to a Resident Caretaker at any time, nor is my suggestion going to cut them off. I can create a new character, make a beeline to the non-city entrances to Goblet or Mist and walk right in even if I haven't picked up the "Where the Heart is" quest (obviously a bit tougher if the character starts in Gridania because they'd have to run all the way to Western Thanalan since you can't get the ferryman to LB to unlock until level 10). The Resident Caretaker is there as always with information for those who ask instead of wanting their hands held and the information spoon fed to them.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

There's no one cut off from access to a Resident Caretaker at any time, nor is my suggestion going to cut them off. I can create a new character, make a beeline to the non-city entrances to Goblet or Mist and walk right in even if I haven't picked up the "Where the Heart is" quest (obviously a bit tougher if the character starts in Gridania because they'd have to run all the way to Western Thanalan since you can't get the ferryman to LB to unlock until level 10). The Resident Caretaker is there as always with information for those who ask instead of wanting their hands held and the information spoon fed to them.

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Brand spanking new chars from Gridania can access Lavender Beds no problems if they just run past Bentbranch and then access it via the ferryman at the docks just NW of Bentbranch. Don't need to be level 10.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Please insert a dose of reality into your arguments. No one completely new to the game is going to be buying a FC house at level 2. The players buying at low level are going to be veteran players who already know how the system works (and likely already own one or more houses). The odds of a brand new player inheriting a FC with house with a level 2 character through normal means is also extremely small.

There's no one cut off from access to a Resident Caretaker at any time, nor is my suggestion going to cut them off. I can create a new character, make a beeline to the non-city entrances to Goblet or Mist and walk right in even if I haven't picked up the "Where the Heart is" quest (obviously a bit tougher if the character starts in Gridania because they'd have to run all the way to Western Thanalan since you can't get the ferryman to LB to unlock until level 10). The Resident Caretaker is there as always with information for those who ask instead of wanting their hands held and the information spoon fed to them.

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While it is uncommon for a low level to inherit a free company house, it does happen. Sprouts get a lot of random FC invites. Story usually goes, the sprout played for a few levels, takes a break, comes back a few months later to try the game again, and oops, they inherited a free company and a house. Usually the sprout has completed the housing district quest, and knows there is a resident caretaker to answer faqs. Although, that's not always the case. Level 2 almost never happens, but it's not uncommon in this scenario for the player to be in their 10s or 20s.

I find it more bizarre that you want to increase the level that someone can access the quest that shows where and what the resident caretaker is. You can form a free company as a level 10 archer if you have a DOH/DOL at level 25. If you can form a free company, then you can buy a free company plot after 30 days, and therefore would want access to housing information. It's not spoonfeeding imo to have a quest that mentions where you can find this information, and SE likely agrees since they're the ones that set the quest level. Without the quest, it's not obvious that there is a resident caretaker or what the resident caretaker does. No one should have be shouting in chat or scouring the internet to figure out how a feature works. I don't think many players want to go back to the XI self help levels.

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

While it is uncommon for a low level to inherit a free company house, it does happen. Sprouts get a lot of random FC invites. Story usually goes, the sprout played for a few levels, takes a break, comes back a few months later to try the game again, and oops, they inherited a free company and a house. Usually the sprout has completed the housing district quest, and knows there is a resident caretaker to answer faqs. Although, that's not always the case. Level 2 almost never happens, but it's not uncommon in this scenario for the player to be in their 10s or 20s.

I find it more bizarre that you want to increase the level that someone can access the quest that shows where and what the resident caretaker is. You can form a free company as a level 10 archer if you have a DOH/DOL at level 25. If you can form a free company, then you can buy a free company plot after 30 days, and therefore would want access to housing information. It's not spoonfeeding imo to have a quest that mentions where you can find this information, and SE likely agrees since they're the ones that set the quest level. Without the quest, it's not obvious that there is a resident caretaker or what the resident caretaker does. No one should have be shouting in chat or scouring the internet to figure out how a feature works. I don't think many players want to go back to the XI self help levels.

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God the cases you are trying to use to justify the notification are like 0.001%, who gets invited to a random FC and then somehow gets master a few months after ? I have never heard of that in 2 years playing this game, just leave it as it is and stop trying to find 0.001% cases to justify it.

It aint rocket science.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

God the cases you are trying to use to justify the notification are like 0.001%, who gets invited to a random FC and then somehow gets master a few months after ? I have never heard of that in 2 years playing this game, just leave it as it is and stop trying to find 0.001% cases to justify it.

It aint rocket science.

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Let me help you out. You're obviously struggling with reading here. Jojoya mentioned bringing up a suggestion about raising the housing district quest level, then I replied, she replied back, and I've replied again. None of these have to do with notifications. It's an off-topic conversation. Just because you haven't seen any of these examples in your very narrow view of housing, doesn't make them nonexistent. They're outliers for sure, but should be taken into consideration. As you said, it ain't rocket science, but it does require you actually read what is written.

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

While it is uncommon for a low level to inherit a free company house, it does happen. Sprouts get a lot of random FC invites. Story usually goes, the sprout played for a few levels, takes a break, comes back a few months later to try the game again, and oops, they inherited a free company and a house. Usually the sprout has completed the housing district quest, and knows there is a resident caretaker to answer faqs. Although, that's not always the case. Level 2 almost never happens, but it's not uncommon in this scenario for the player to be in their 10s or 20s.

I find it more bizarre that you want to increase the level that someone can access the quest that shows where and what the resident caretaker is. You can form a free company as a level 10 archer if you have a DOH/DOL at level 25. If you can form a free company, then you can buy a free company plot after 30 days, and therefore would want access to housing information. It's not spoonfeeding imo to have a quest that mentions where you can find this information, and SE likely agrees since they're the ones that set the quest level. Without the quest, it's not obvious that there is a resident caretaker or what the resident caretaker does. No one should have be shouting in chat or scouring the internet to figure out how a feature works. I don't think many players want to go back to the XI self help levels.

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Did I say that the Where the Heart Is quests should be removed? No, I didn't.

I said there should be a quest once the player is finally eligible to purchase a house that emphasizes talking to the Resident Caretaker to learn about the responsibilities that come with house ownership now that the player is actually able to purchase one.

And please give us one example of where a brand new player with no clue about how housing works inherited a FC with house. Just one. You're grasping at straws and you know it.

The spoonfeeding isn't the quest. The spoonfeeding is piling notification on top of notification instead of expecting players to act like what they should be - responsible individuals.

All someone has to do is actually use their house and notifications are not needed. If they're not using the house, then there is no reason for them to have one when it can go to another player that is.

I guess you're afraid of losing your multiple homes that you only have because you use a spreadsheet to track the last time you entered them.

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

Let me help you out. You're obviously struggling with reading here. Jojoya mentioned bringing up a suggestion about raising the housing district quest level, then I replied, she replied back, and I've replied again. None of these have to do with notifications. It's an off-topic conversation. Just because you haven't seen any of these examples in your very narrow view of housing, doesn't make them nonexistent. They're outliers for sure, but should be taken into consideration. As you said, it ain't rocket science, but it does require you actually read what is written.

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And yet the quest is how the player gets a chance to learn about the notifications. So yes, it does have to do with them.

They can learn about the notifications when they get the Where the Heart Is quest and the Resident Caretaker is mentioned (that almost no one bothers to visit at the time). They'd have a second chance to learn about the notifications if the new quest was added at a time actually relevant.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

I guess you're afraid of losing your multiple homes that you only have because you use a spreadsheet to track the last time you entered them.

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What... now? Is that all it takes to get multiple houses? A spreadsheet?

Hilarious.

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Originally Posted by WinglessSeraphim

What... now? Is that all it takes to get multiple houses? A spreadsheet?

Hilarious.

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It's evidently what Eirlyss needs to avoid having the homes they own demo'd. Take a look at post 67

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6231199

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

On that note, I'm not looking for sympathy either. I've been in housing for over 7 years, and have never lost a house to demo. I use a spreadsheet to keep track of when I've entered my homes. That doesn't mean I don't sympathize with people who are more casual about housing.

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As we've been saying all along, someone using their homes wouldn't need a spreadsheet to keep track of when they last entered.

Perhaps the real solution isn't to add more notifications but rather to remove them altogether.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

I guess you're afraid of losing your multiple homes that you only have because you use a spreadsheet to track the last time you entered them.

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I'm so glad I wasn't drinking when I read this, because I would have had coffee coming out my nose. I was going to type up a serious answer, but it's not worth the time. What next? Spreadsheets are third party tool? How dare I keep track of those 45 days like everyone here keeps telling us to do!11!! Do you realize how absurd you sound?

I'll try to make it simpler. Where the Heart is quests are perfect as they are. They're doing their job. There is no need for a redundant quest 40 levels later. Between the Where the Heart is quests, and the Active Help < Housing (that pops up when you join a free company or do anything housing related for the first time), people have been told enough to visit the resident caretaker.

I'm not the one grasping at straws here. When I was making new characters on Dynamis, I'd have a free company invite within 2 minutes of logging in with a brand new character. Low levels have already inherited some free companies over there. I won't touch on this more. I know that no matter what I say, people will just dogpile it.

As for your last batch of comments. That argument is so far reaching, that Mister Fantastic would be proud of that reach. We were discussing why housing district quests should or should not stay the level they currently are. That had next to nothing to do with in-game notifications, and why I even put in my first statement that it was off-topic. In hindsight, I probably should have bolded the off-topic considering the crowd.

I've already given my reason for why an in-game notification for auto-demolition isn't a terrible idea. If SE can implement a lottery results notification for something that only happened within the last few days, then it's not a long shot to have an in-game auto-demo notification that works the same way. Thank you to those who corrected my misinformation, and to those who just wanted to say why they disagreed. It's been a fun discussion. I'm going to bow out now to save my keyboard from my coffee, just in case someone comes in here citing housing scarcity next. Take care everyone!

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

On that note, I'm not looking for sympathy either. I've been in housing for over 7 years, and have never lost a house to demo. I have over 100 houses, and use a spreadsheet to keep track of workshops and when I last entered my homes. That doesn't mean I don't sympathize with people who are more casual about housing.

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Fixed that last paragraph.

Somehow, both sides of this argument have managed to be so inane that it further strengthens the idea that the status quo is fine.

Mao doesn't see a problem here. Mao regularly visits Mao's house.

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Originally Posted by Sindele

Somehow, both sides of this argument have managed to be so inane that it further strengthens the idea that the status quo is fine.

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That's usually how any discussion ends up in this forum.

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

What next? Spreadsheets are third party tool? How dare I keep track of those 45 days like everyone here keeps telling us to do!11!! Do you realize how absurd you sound?

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No one said it was? Jojoya simply saying, if you're using your house/s you don't need to keep a spreadsheet updated.

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

Fixed that last paragraph.

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You know there is a edit button, right?

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

I have over 100 houses, and use a spreadsheet to keep track of workshops and when I last entered my homes.

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The game isn't meant for one person to have 100+ houses. If you need a spreadsheet to keep track of them, you could certainly relinquish a few. Personally I would feel ashamed to own so many houses given the in game situation.

OP had one house. Knowing when you entered it last is a no brainer.

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

I'm not saying this at all. It is 100% OP's fault for losing the house, and an inactive house should go back on the market. I'm agreeing with OP about there being many flaws in the system, and that a notification like the lottery collection notification wouldn't be a terrible idea. People rarely visit their timers tab, and some don't know it exists. It would also help if SE was more clear in their wording about people entering their house, instead of just engaging with their yard. Life happens, and SE's email notification leaves a lot to be desired as I pointed out in my earlier post.

I don't think OP was looking for sympathy, and they were only posting a suggestion like many other people. What is wild is the number of unconstructive comments telling OP they don't "deserve" their house.

On that note, I'm not looking for sympathy either. I've been in housing for over 7 years, and have never lost a house to demo. I have over 100 houses, and use a spreadsheet to keep track of workshops and when I last entered my homes. That doesn't mean I don't sympathize with people who are more casual about housing.

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So you are comparing having 100 houses and needing a spreadsheet with someone with only one house that all they have to do is enter the house one time in 45 days, good comparison there

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Originally Posted by Eirlyss

Fixed that last paragraph.

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Just think. If you were actually using all those 100+ houses, you wouldn't need a spreadsheet to track them or any sort of notification at all.

For all that you mention workshops, sounds like you're not using most if any of them. After all, passing through the house to enter the workshop would be resetting the demo timer so no need to track when you last entered. Voyage status is easily checked on the Estate Timer when you log onto your character.

If you actually are actively operating 100+ workshops, then it's an excellent example of why workshops need to be detached from house ownership.

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Originally Posted by Sindele

Somehow, both sides of this argument have managed to be so inane that it further strengthens the idea that the status quo is fine.

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I agree the current notification system is fine. It's got the in-game notification in the Estate Timer available for active players to check at any time. It's got the out of game notification for players who may have had real life issues pop up interfering with their ability to play so they'll know it's pending and do what's necessary.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Just think. If you were actually using all those 100+ houses, you wouldn't need a spreadsheet to track them or any sort of notification at all.

For all that you mention workshops, sounds like you're not using most if any of them. After all, passing through the house to enter the workshop would be resetting the demo timer so no need to track when you last entered. Voyage status is easily checked on the Estate Timer when you log onto your character.

If you actually are actively operating 100+ workshops, then it's an excellent example of why workshops need to be detached from house ownership.


I agree the current notification system is fine. It's got the in-game notification in the Estate Timer available for active players to check at any time. It's got the out of game notification for players who may have had real life issues pop up interfering with their ability to play so they'll know it's pending and do what's necessary.

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Jojoya, Mao has question. Mao does not see any notification abouts how much time Mao has left in Estate section of Timers. Is in another section or only shows ups under certain circumstances?

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Originally Posted by Eraden

Jojoya, Mao has question. Mao does not see any notification abouts how much time Mao has left in Estate section of Timers. Is in another section or only shows ups under certain circumstances?

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It appears if you have 15 days or less left. It will be at the top of the estate tab.

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Originally Posted by Toutatis

It appears if you have 15 days or less left. It will be at the top of the estate tab.

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Thanks for info! Must be why Mao never sees this. Mao logs in almost daily.

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Originally Posted by Eraden

Thanks for info! Must be why Mao never sees this. Mao logs in almost daily.

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It's not logging in that resets the timer. It's entering the house that resets it. I imagine you're entering almost every day if not every day so the timer never reaches 30 days without entry.

Probably the easiest way for someone to keep on top of their timer is to log out at their house. Log in, pop inside to check retainers or see if gear needs repair, and you're set. Even if someone can't play daily, they would be unlikely to miss resetting the timer on those days they are playing.

My house has 11 days left for auto demo... I saw it in the timers tab ingame and I was counting the date at which the auto demo would take place. But I've NEVER got an e-mail from SE about 'you have 15 days left'...

(and no, I'm not going in my house, going to let it auto demo... not gonna get rid of the house and lose all my money (in the real world, if you sell a house, you won't get nothing either), in stead I let it auto demo and get back the 80% payment.)

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Originally Posted by Shadow_Lilly

My house has 11 days left for auto demo... I saw it in the timers tab ingame and I was counting the date at which the auto demo would take place. But I've NEVER got an e-mail from SE about 'you have 15 days left'...

(and no, I'm not going in my house, going to let it auto demo... not gonna get rid of the house and lose all my money (in the real world, if you sell a house, you won't get nothing either), in stead I let it auto demo and get back the 80% payment.)

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I checked my timers too and two of my houses were being prepped for auto-demo in 12 days. I never received an email. Thank goodness for Excel.

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Originally Posted by WinglessSeraphim

I checked my timers too and two of my houses were being prepped for auto-demo in 12 days. I never received an email. Thank goodness for Excel.

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Same problem here actually despite following my excel, I entered it on the 08/07 and it cancelled the auto demo and somehow I have a 11 days timer, bit weird

Honestly I'd like an auto-demo pop-up in-game just for peace of mind. The number of times we've had threads pop up about people that have actually entered their houses within the 45 day timer and didn't trigger a reset has left me a bit paranoid. I'd also like the option to enable the timer to always show up in the timers menu so I can see the reset happening before the 30 day mark.

Somewhat ironic this has been brought current. Yesterday I was checking my alt's timers and saw that a house she is tenant in had 13 days before demolition. Got a text message to the owner about it. He logs in about a half hour later going "This shouldn't have happened. I went into the house the day before my vacation started [about 2 weeks ago] to make certain the timer was reset." I did confirm on my alt's timers that it got reset after he went in last night.

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Originally Posted by Shadow_Lilly

My house has 11 days left for auto demo... I saw it in the timers tab ingame and I was counting the date at which the auto demo would take place. But I've NEVER got an e-mail from SE about 'you have 15 days left'...

(and no, I'm not going in my house, going to let it auto demo... not gonna get rid of the house and lose all my money (in the real world, if you sell a house, you won't get nothing either), in stead I let it auto demo and get back the 80% payment.)

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The first email doesn't go out until 10 days left. The in-game notice in Estate timers is what appears at 15 days left.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Same problem here actually despite following my excel, I entered it on the 08/07 and it cancelled the auto demo and somehow I have a 11 days timer, bit weird

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That's the same day my friend started his vacation (he went into his house on the 7th).

I think this might be a good time to start a bug report if we've got multiple people coming forward about the same problem that can trace last house entry to roughly the same date. I'll check with my friend to see if he's willing to start one or add to one if someone else gets it started.

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Originally Posted by 0811

I know there's a thing in the timers menu (which almost nobody actually checks)

I made the mistake of buying 999 dark matter from my (former) house's junkmonger that essentially got rid of my need to go inside for the time being as I've only been raid-logging recently and have my character parked in Limsa so my house got auto-demolished.
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i find it odd that you would park in limsa instead of just taking the 3 extra seconds it takes to tp to your house, go inside and log out.
besides that point, if you weren't using it. then there's no need to have it. is there?


do i think an ingame timer is needed? ....eh -shrug- i suppose. couldn't hurt, however i'm pretty sure there's already one in the game for the purpose of a 2 week notice. (can anyone correct me if i'm wrong on that?) But then again, if you're logging in as much as even you "weekly", you should be able to just go to your home once a week if you're that touchy about losing it due to its inactive use. Email notification is more than sufficient imo. I check ALL my emails regularly. Those who dont, clearly dont care enough about the management of their games, and the assets held within those games, to check them on a regular basis.

This really sounds more like a "i forgot i had a house, and now i want it back, so i can forget i have one again." type of post.

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

Honestly I'd like an auto-demo pop-up in-game just for peace of mind. The number of times we've had threads pop up about people that have actually entered their houses within the 45 day timer and didn't trigger a reset has left me a bit paranoid. I'd also like the option to enable the timer to always show up in the timers menu so I can see the reset happening before the 30 day mark.

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I think I’ve changed my mind on this… at first I was like, if you’re using your house, you should be fine. But then I hear people saying they were just in it 2 weeks prior and they were on a demo timer and it makes me paranoid too, every though I am literally in my house every single day. I check my retainers at my bell inside right after I log in, and I log out from inside the house every time. It’s just part of my daily routine.

It shouldn’t be that hard a thing… they added a pop-up when you log in on lotto results day to remind you to check your bid.

My weekly reset day routine is: check my timers, go inside my personal house, get a Khloe book, do the turn in at Doman enclave. I've never had a demolition warning or an email on my current house.