What is your favorite QoL that's coming in 6.3?

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Originally Posted by Reinha

Imagine if the devs let you fully customize the color and border color of the castbars (including black & white options) based on what the incoming damage type is. Must be impossible, heh heh... They could have used a color palette system like in the health bar customization menu yet they only give these cheap looking icons.

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Colour can be a bit iffy because of monitor settings. Yes, even monochrome contrast :x Black text and white text may also be a bit hard to read in the middle of all the crap we have going on in the game. Attacks that are too bright or too dim can end up making legibility an issue.

Overall, the icons are fine. They're easy to identify by shape alone. Whether they're the most appropriate or not is beyond me.

Link? ty /10 char

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Colour can be a bit iffy because of monitor settings. Yes, even monochrome contrast :x

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You're saying colorblind people can't tell a black cast bar from a white cast bar? Are you colorblind?

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Originally Posted by Reinha

You're saying colorblind people can't tell a black cast bar from a white cast bar? Are you colorblind?

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Yes, I am, I've mentioned as much several times. It's mild, it's actually an anomaly, so I can still see more colour than full-on colourblind people but... still.

Secondly, colourblind people can detect black cast bars from white cast bars. That isn't the problem I'm getting at. Even for normal-sighted people, monochromatic casts can be a bit hard to spot, especially with all the flashy stuff going on in the background. Changes in brightness (I used "contrast" before, it's the wrong term. I was thinking of brightness, which is the monochrome values between black and white) aren't as perceptible as colour saturation or shapes, which is why some stuff in the game does more than just give you a cute colour. Example? Interruptible casts. They pulsate. That's there for a reason, because you can't rely on colour alone, nor brightness for that matter. Again, not just because of colourblind people, you're the one fixating on that. I'm including different kinds of technology, because monitors aren't all set up the same way.

Hell. You know what saves me half the time in stuff like Bozja's Mandragora FATE or Kampeos Harma from P2S? The fact that the AoEs of the Mandragora have patterns and the dice symbols are squares or triangles. Shapes are far more intuitive than colour and brightness settings.

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Originally Posted by SnowVix

So, no colorblind players in your version of this game, then?

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And players with Myopia don't exist to you? Or how about players that can't handle so much info overload because there are tiny little objects filling up the entire screen like a shitty WoW addon?

Unlike SE's shoddy UI crew, the Damage Info Plugin actually allows you to change the color of the Damage numbers and Cast Bars to their correspondent Damage Types, so color blind people can adjust the colors to the point they can tell the difference.

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Originally Posted by OM3GA-Z3RO

And players with Myopia don't exist to you? Or how about players that can't handle so much info overload because there are tiny little objects filling up the entire screen like a shitty WoW addon?

Unlike SE's shoddy UI crew, the Damage Info Plugin actually allows you to change the color of the Damage numbers and Cast Bars to their correspondent Damage Types, so color blind people can adjust the colors to the point they can tell the difference.

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That'd honestly be really good. Because if you can change the colour freely like we can with character names, it'd be so much better. Achromatic and people with Tritanopia will still need to adjust more than others, so the icons do help a fair bit... But being able to change the colour of things would be a godsent.

Because here's the thing. The game has a colourblind filter. It doesn't do much. It just lowers the effects of some colours. And you may think "well, that can help, it's specifically designed for that + it even helps that they acknowledge different types of colourblindness"...
:x except it doesn't always work out.
E9S just looks purple with a super faint green. P2S's Kampeos Harma's colours look no different on the setting that's meant for me. And to make it worse, P3 in general is just horrible. And I know you're referring to text, but jeez >_<;; some AoEs and effects need an overhaul.

The UI needs a rehaul too, I agree. I get that they're going for a stylized UI to blend with the old-timey fantasy aesthetics they have, but I prefer the simple settings because they're far easier to spot. Older menus have this weird frame around them that takes up far more space than it should.

Edit: For reference, these are the settings I use.
https://i.imgur.com/nvxcx5E.png
I don't run the game all the time with it because it dims the game a lot. And like I said, it's a mild one, so I can tell that something shifted. I only use it for instances where I know I need it. This in E9S didn't help :| it just made the purples blend more. I feel like it helps set apart stuff like magentas from purples because it makes the 1 and A markers different from 4 and D. But if stuff's just different shades of purple or different shades of orange I'm just like "????".

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

It wasnt mentioned in detail, but Yoshi has hinted at some kind of retainer QoL for crafting mats.

I am VERY curious.

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I am super curious about that comment and that he said something like he couldn't properly explain it yet.

Also the bait change. I much prefer to have that information there in game than have to go out to a third party site.

This isn't comparable to breaking into someone's house because this is victimless.

This is more like building something on your property without a zoning permit and the department of public works gets pissy

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Originally Posted by rainichan

Anyway, back on topic, UI updates for Island stuff. Hopefully instead of clicking each and every animal or crop to resume services, I can just click a singular button and get everything into my isleventory and resume services because good lord that's the most irritating "why did you not just make this the norm" thing about Island Sanctuary for me. Hopefully the retainer change is crafting from their inventory instead of needing to pull everything out, I can only hope.

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OMG yes this too. I forgot they had mentioned the "collect all" thing. Especially useful if we get pasture and cropland expansions.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Secondly, colourblind people can detect black cast bars from white cast bars. That isn't the problem I'm getting at.

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Well I don't know what problem you're getting at because in the next post when someone else describes the exact same plugin as I did, you suddenly think it's great. So I guess we agree.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

That'd honestly be really good. Because if you can change the colour freely like we can with character names, it'd be so much better. Achromatic and people with Tritanopia will still need to adjust more than others, so the icons do help a fair bit... But being able to change the colour of things would be a godsent.

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The point of being able to customize the cast bar is to see the damage type before the cast finishes, so you can apply damage reduction in time for it to work. That's why these new icons are worse than the plugin. They show up on your screen after you're already hit.

But it's rare for a boss, hunt mark, or trash mob to only use something you'd need to figure out proper mitigation for once in a fight. So, sure you might not use the few magic mitigation tools the game gives us the first time but repeated exposure to said attack should allow you to remember that you need to use X for Y. Like back during ARR if you were a healer you knew you should throw up a stoneskin or save a strong heal for Death Sentence. Or if you didn't have any way to help soften the blow then it'd be up to your tank to take extra precautions on their end.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

Well I don't know what problem you're getting at because in the next post when someone else describes the exact same plugin as I did, you suddenly think it's great. So I guess we agree.

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No, I agreed that you need to change the colour of things for colourblind people. But that turning it black and white won't solve the problem in a more generalised audience because brightness =\= hue, (aka, colour), and there are different ways where it can go poorly.

For example, on P3S. Gaudy orange everywhere. The damage text tends to be red, which might blend with the background. But if we change it to black, it's going to be hard to read because of the nature of black as a simple text colour. Unless they make it especially bold, it will blend with striations on the floor, animations coming from the boss and even people. If we do the same for white instead, then it can blend with bright animations and the already-bright background that permeates the fight.

Which is why black and white, while useful for colourblind people regardless because everyone can read it ON PAPER, realistically it might just be very, very hard to properly pull off.

And here's the thing. Black text might help on Mt Gulg but white text sure won't. And if it's going to be like this, how do we determine what black text will be for magic or physical? You're gonna go with different shades of gray? Because I reiterate. The problem at that point is Brightness, not Hue. Brightness can be really finnicky to distinguish, especially more so than differences in Hue. Oh you can spot them alright, as in you can actually tell it's there. But good luck actually telling dark gray from slightly lighter gray apart on an instance where everything is saturated and bright. Or in instances where everything is very dark like P9S.

If you can do it, good on you. For real. I sure know I can't. I know it's there but if you give me text that I need to tell apart from its counterpart based on brightness alone, I'll question what the bleeding hell kind of art design course you've been in. Because there are better ways to go around colourblindness than just resorting to differences in brightness.

Fun fact, this is actually why cream yellow background with black font is more legible than white background with black font. You read faster that way. Because the contrast between the brightness of the background with the font won't tire your eyes. Brightness has an effect on everyone, not just colourblind people, and it can lead to different problems than hue changes.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

The point of being able to customize the cast bar is to see the damage type before the cast finishes, so you can apply damage reduction in time for it to work. That's why these new icons are worse than the plugin. They show up on your screen after you're already hit.

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Yeah. And that in itself is a problem, I won't deny it. What you wrote has absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote though? I meant that the icons may be visual clutter but are helpful for colourblind people to understand what's coming given the really crappy settings we're given. What you're doing is taking what I said and saying that the function is wrong. Which, again, that I won't deny, because you may very well be right and I'm not the best indicated to speak on it... but it's just not what I was talking about.

On your opinion though? The only explanation I have for why they did it is that maybe Square views this information as "cheating", and thus they still want you to go through the instance and wipe to things while figuring out what hit you? Like, as it stands right now, you still need to go in and figure out which cooldowns to use. What they'll implement will give you that information, but force you to still take the hit and be like "ok, gonna take note of that".... erm... th... I don't know T_T;

...It's stupid, I know, but it's the only way I can explain this to begin with. One thing that they could just do is add the icons to the right side of the cast bar and make them change accordingly? idk :x Their logic is WEIRD.

I can't wait for the portraits to come at the start of dungeons. It will make it easier to know who I should commend. I will still probably have to open all the party member adventurer plates though to check the messages.

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Originally Posted by Wasselin

I can't wait for the portraits to come at the start of dungeons. It will make it easier to know who I should commend. I will still probably have to open all the party member adventurer plates though to check the messages.

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.w. you'll commend people based on their profiles and not how good they play and if they were helpful?

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Originally Posted by Wasselin

I can't wait for the portraits to come at the start of dungeons. It will make it easier to know who I should commend. I will still probably have to open all the party member adventurer plates though to check the messages.

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Eugh. Easily the worst change. I hope they finally make it so if your plate is set to private no portrait is shown. The fact that they can't even properly center their default portrait is such a joke.